Just a small update,

as you may have already noticed, we have changed the colours of each profession. Normally all members were light blue in colour, and potential members dark gray.

Here is the list of colours and professions. And no they are not up for debate lol Took plenty of arguing for Anakin and I to agree on these ones lol

So here's the list:

Administrator
Imperial
Rebel
Sith
Jedi
Bounty Hunter
Politician
Capitalist
Royalty
Space Pirate
Smuggler
Entertainer
Handmaiden
Rogue
Potential Member

If you have any questions, then ask away :)

What if you have multiple professions. Say you are a bounty hunter who get's picked as a Sith. Or a rebel who gets picked as a Jedi. A politician in the Emipire. You then belong to two factions. What color would your name be then?

Well then I would say it is up to you what you would want to be registered as. We have name places for your profession anyway, so if you were a Jedi and a Rebel, you could have your name orange as a Rebel, but keep the name place as Jedi. But the more simple option is that you just say which you prefer to go noticed as

I think, although this has not been decided yet, it is a matter of choice, but also what the highest rank is. A common Rebel who has training as a Jedi will be labeled as a Jedi cause it's a higher rank. You have to keep that title so people know that you are able to use force-powers. Same applies for the Sith.

A politician in the empire would stay labeled as a politician, afteral he's not a stormtrooper. A stormtrooper who studies politics and became a politician would change then to a politician afteral that would be the profession he is doing, cause he can't do both.

I have ideas about a new profession though and that is a Jedi Hunter. Cause they can do both, they are not Sith but we can't label them as bounty hunters otherwise how would others know that you can use Force-powers...

Good thought, though i'd pick another name for Jedi Hunter...

It either means Jedi Hunter, meaning the character's a Jedi that's into bountyhunting, or a Jedi Hunter, meaning the character does not necessarily have Force Powers, but specialises in hunting down Jedi.

Also, even though second characters are a long way from being granted, it'd be better to get this out of the way first. Imagine the following scenario:

Lewy makes it into the Alliance, and eventually becomes a member of the Jedi Council. He is then granted a second character slot, which he uses to apply for a much darker character, joining the Empire and eventually becoming a Sith.

So then, which color should he choose?

(Used Jedi and Sith as an example here... Could be anything of comparable rank, but i figured i'd use two extremes for it. It also makes it easier to imagine)

Also, i've noticed there is no "Merchant" color... Not all of them smuggle, ya know :P.

Edit: More babbletalk:

In said example, what 'tag' would be listed under Lewy's avatar? If it's Jedi, it'll raise some eyebrows amongst the Sith, and if it's Sith, i figure the Jedi won't be giving him the benefit of the doubt either :P

I suppose this can be fixed using double tags, like so:



Thoughts, comments, ideas?

We're not through this yet, but secondary characters won't work that way...The first secundary characters will probably be slaves anyway, so they'll have to stick with you, besides even if you had a secundary character, your primary will always come first, so you'll always carry the title of your primary character anyway.

Okies, got it ^_^.

Good thing the concept i was working on was a Slave to begin with, eh? :P

I guess secondary characters can also be translators, right?
Perhaps not in the start, but after a while?

And another question: Could a sith get into the Alliance?
I mean not as a spy or a double agent, but as a true and dedicated member?

Not that I'm planning to, but I'm in a curious age... :P

By the way it was real flatteringusing me as an example! :D

Well, i was looking for a quick example, and you were asking in Chat about transferring from Bounty Hunter to Alliance, so yeah...

Also, i'm guessing second character Slaves shouldn't necessarily be attached to that same person's first characters? I mean, Jin-ho isn't exactly the type to have slaves of her own to fan her and fetch her things ^^;

About your questions...

Sith --> Alliance: Sure, i don't see why not. I mean, the Sith aren't exactly holding back on trying to recruit Jedi for their 'cause', so i don't see why that shouldn't work both ways as well. There'd be massive distrust though, comparable to a Jedi turned Sith being seen as a tool by the other Sith.

Yeah, I believe you're right...
Though I believed Anakin or Padmé should answere it, I believe they have nothing else to say than you.
But if you have, please let me/us know.
Besides you will be the ones who has to answere about the translator thing..

But thank you anyway for those sensible answeres, Jin!! :)

Sorry guys, we've been busy all day.

Sith and in the Alliance? Never, unless you were doing "a Sidious" aka pretending to be nice to infiltrate it. But you could not be a dedicated member and a dedicated Sith.... That's a contradiction.

If you want to be dedicated in any field, you have to be true at heart. If you have a secret agenda, you won't get as far as a "true believer", and that applies for any profession. Except perhaps concerning politics, business etc As you would be able to use corruption in your advantage.

Thank you for the answeres too, Padmé.
Though I see none who has answered the translator thing... :P
I guess it's Anakins turn now? :P
Though it's not a big deal, so I won't die if I don't get answered.
I guess sooner or later I'll get to know anyway, eh? :D

There are no translators, what you have to do is buy a protocol droid, we are still in debate whether droids can be secondary characters, we'll see. Which means you can't post as them yet, you can of course mention what they do or say in your own post.

Oki, I understand.
Thank you for the answeres!
Just one more question: (Sorry, you've got to grow tired of it... :( )
Where may we buy droids (in the future??)??

I'll say thank you already so I won't have to make any stupid/uneccesary post to do that... ;)

Well we're going to be opening alot of stores soon. Places where you can buy blasters, armour, droids etc. We are in the middle of researching all of the different weapons etc that we will include in this RPG. Anakin had already made an enormous list of weapons and prices on word, but the day he did it, his dad accidentally erased it all :o So it had to be started from scratch.

Umm... I think Lewy's referring to a Sith that becomes an Alliance member, not a double agent of sorts.

Kind of like an Empire officer defecting to the Rebels. Only with Jedi. Or something. :P

Well I think he would've said Imperial that becomes a Rebel.... Empire and Sith are not the same thing. And a Sith would never do such a thing as to join the Rebellion, and if they did, the rebels would send him off to the Jedi. So they would capture them, so then they would have 2 choices, either escape or retrains.....

If a person is an Imperial and changes sides, that's different. But getting into the Jedi/ Sith elements is an entirely different matter.

Also for example, if you completed training as a Sith but decided you would rather be a Jedi instead.... You would not immediately become a Jedi, you would have to start from nothing again. The training may be easier, but you would still have to forfill it.

actually I meant a sith...
Not as a dedicated sith, I realize that would never work, but someone with powers over the dark side, finding that he fought for something he felt was wrong, wanting to use evil powers to fight for good... Like keeping the powers but fighting for the other side, if you know what I mean...
Oki, I may sound confusing now... :P

So it is perhaps more like what you said in the end- but perhaps whitout the new training... but I guess the answere would be the same for those two options...??

I think I have a fast and simple solution...:

Name it Jedihunter.
It would have to mean someone hunting jedi with or without force powers, as it is in one word...
It would chrash with bounty hunter, but it would be fitting in the way you won't wonder of the meaning of it...

A person using evil powers for good? That is a contradiction and doesn't make sense at all lol

Some general information about what the Jedi Masters once said, I'll quote it:

"Can one take the dark path to achieve good? Or must the dark side inevitably corrupt the good that one hopes to achieve?..............

Dark Path.... Dark End...."


Meaning that once you have walked the dark path "forever will it dominate your destiny". So either, you are a Sith, and beleive in everything that is evil..... Or you renounce it, and prove yourself worthy of becoming a Jedi, and prove that you have seen the light..... Only on the path of a Jedi, could someone with high force sensitivity work for the Alliance....

Also, if one Dark Jedi is redeemed and becomes a true Jedi, he is bound to this rule..... If he uses the Dark Powers he or she once learned, he or she will be cast out from the Jedi Order..... And it wouldn't be easy to join the Sith again since you proved to be "weak" in the past......

I think what Lewy was getting at was something similar to the Punisher from Marvel. Fighting fire with fire. Fight the bad guys using their own rules. But I'd have to agree with Padme that concidering the powers at work, that wouldn't really work.

However here is one interesting possibility. Someone could be a Sith that has their own reasons for wanting to see the Alliance triumph over the Empire. For whatever reason, they wish to see the Empire fall. In this case they wouldn't be a spy or a double agent. They would have an earnest, if less then honorable, reason to join the Alliance. Not because they believe in what the alliance stands for, but because their goals align. The enemy of my enemy is my friend and whatnot.

Well we explained before, a double agent as sorts is fine. But the concept of having a Sith genuinely want good to win over evil? It doesn't make sense. That's the issue. There are many ways to join the Rebellion, whether it's for good or bad, but it has to make sense lol

Yeahy, I knew it was a weird thought...
Just thought it could be interesting to ccheck if it had any possibilitys to work out...

But I guess a sith in the alliance would be hunted from both sides-
The siths hunting him/her as a traitor, and the Rebels as a dangerous thing whitin their ranks...
Yeah, I know: to join the rebels you need their trust- and if they trust you they wont hunt you...
But it is not sure everybody in the alliance will trust you- and atleast not if you're a sith/ x-sith...
So this is more like a worst case scenario...

bah, I'll stop thinking for a while now to make more sense... :P

but thx for the answeres!

Actually, i believe a better example would be the following:

Imagine a Sith. Let's call him Darth Mail

*random Sith appears, dressed in a Fed-Ex uniform. He waves happily at the crowd*

Hi there *waves back*. Now, Darth Mail doesn't have very strong Force Powers, and there's quite a number of (Dark) Jedi that could beat him hands down.

Darth Mail *sulks, then perks up as he remembers something*

Yes, that's right! Darth Mail changes his name to Liam, and goes into politics, knowing that they get their own bodyguards. However, the other Sith don't much like politics, seeing it as a polularity contest for the weak, and wish to rule as an almighty Emperor.

In Darth Mail's case, he will have ensured a better chance of survival in exchange for being satisfied with ruling one planet (by controlling it's legislation) as opposed to the entire Galaxy. It is therefore in his best interest to help the Alliance, in order to sustain the system that allows him to be what he is.

*Darth Mail appears again, wearing a black cloak and impersonating Darth Sidious*

*screen fades to black*

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But yeah... This is what i think Lewy meant to say ^^;

You mentioned that "Darth Mail" had bodyguards. They would, as Darth Mail, be instantly killed by the Sith or Dark Jedi cause he and his bodyguards would be no match for them. Sidious can not permit that a Dark Jedi would get political power in the Senate. That is also why there are only 2 Sith.

If a Dark Jedi became a politician, then you would clearly serve under palpatine and do his biding. If he got the slightest wind of you having connections with the Rebellion or have the slighest idea that you might turn against him. He would just release the dogs on you.

Which would mean instant death.
That leads us to the conclution:
Unfaithful/disobedient siths live short lifes... :( poor them...

Okies, gotcha ^_^

...Good thing i'm not planning to have Jin-ho 'go Sith'. Life expectancy ftw! <.<;;

Hehe, and I'm glad I'm neither....
As I am soon to join the alliance even though I'm now prooven over 80% evil...

Siths: You're warned... :ph43r:

No no, Sith do not have a short life expectancy, as with every career path, there are obsticles, and depending on how you respond to those will effect your character.

Sith and Jedi are the best professions lol Let's face facts. They are the highest ranks.

Yeah, I guess you're right...
As long as they are NOT disobedient/unfaithful they're safe...
How are the ranks in the Alliance, by the way???

Well, Bail Organa and Mon Mothma are at the top. They are the original founders, and although I mainly use Bail Organa in the RPG, both him and Mon Mothma are practically equals. So the highest you can get is second to them. Which means you will command your own Rebel Force on a planet. It will be your responsibility.

WOW!!!!
I can't wait to join the alliance!!!
The galactic empire shall fear me as general Mantok!!!!

That was me and Kleko's plan from the very beginning.
Start out as bounty hunters- then join the Rebel Alliance!
And it's comming true! Although he haven't posted here in a long time due to lack of computer or something...
poor thing! :(

Yeah it's a shame kleko hasn't been here much, we need all the members we can. I really am looking forward to the point where everyone is interacting properly, the way we first imagined it. Now everything is so simple, but one we have atleast 50 active members, I think it will be fantastic here..... It's just knowing where to find people to join

Heh yeah, i'm having a good time here too ^_^.

Question about being a Commander though... Would you have a set amount of military available to you? And what would happen in a large scale battle, where you're attacking an enemy (player's) fleet?

Yes... I'll talk to Kleko and find out when he will be able to post again...
And while we're talking about new members, I just wondered...
Is Kakashi a member here yet?
I believe if not we can persuade him to atleast look at the thing... :D

Em, I think because of recent events concerning him, me and Anakin he would certainly NOT want to have a look here lol

Oh... I didn't know...
Want to tell me about it??

Just check the Spam section of TFF from a few days ago and you'll see lol Was really funy but I think Kakashi took it too hard, poor lad lol

hmmm... Yeah, I know you two can be mean... :P
Remember something about you being a pig once... :P :P
I'll check what you did to him, though...
Can you just please specify a bit more than spam section? remember a particular thread??

Anakin vs Kakashi and also in the Spam Section the Shinobi RPG lol

We were a bit mean but it was funny, plus we werent being 100% serious, we were just being funny, but yeah if Id known he was just a kid I'd have gone easy on him lol

You all know I'm lovely though hahaha :P