I've talked to just about everyone on here, and most of the ppl at SSC and Isoaker. It's pretty much unanimous, everyone wants a webring of some sort.
I want to run this through with everyone one final time before I go through with it.
I'm going to make a webring at webring.com, titled the Watergun Webring. If you guys don't like the name I'll be open to different options. I'm going to purchase a domain name for the webring once it is constructed, and there will be ONE, and only one page for the webring. The webring page will consist of links to all the sites in the webring, and descriptions of the sites written by the webmasters. The rules for being in the webring will be fine tuned more once I purchase the domain name, but I intend to be pretty loose on rules as long as it's a watergun/waterwarfare website. I'm sure you're all wondering if you're going to need to put a dorky webring code on your website to join. I think that an image link on the main page, and links page, will suffice. You can mess around with the image all you want so that it goes with your website design if you'd like. I don't really care as long as you link to the webring.

I'm going to need someone to help me with graphics and stuff. It will be a two man operation. I have no graphics software, and I want this to look pretty sweet. Any volunteers?

I'll do the graphics. I learned a lot of stuff on Photoshop so if you need anything just tell me.

Thanks. If you have IM hit me up @ xMoonlitSh4dowx, yim marauder_4, or msn theboyw0nder@hotmail.com so we can talk about this. Ben from SSC said we can use the newsletter's domain. I already have a webring @ webring.com, but we can customize all that and figure out how much significance (maybe none) that will play in the actual webring. Speaking of design I really like SM's design.

The old site, the new site in progress, or the forum design? Cause the old site design plain sucks and Nibor is making an even better skin for the forums. You guys won't be disappointed by that one. I think it's awesome so far.

The Webring design will probably end up being the same old black text on white background, since it will be "official" looking and can't have our underground rebel feeling. I'm looking forward to the webring regardless of the design. B)

I'm talking about the forum skin.

You're forgetting that I'm the one running the webring.

What will this new "skin" look like, anything is fine unless it's a really bright color. B)

It's a lot like this one, except much improved. You'll see soon.

What's going on with the webring? I haven't heard anything new about its progress in a while. This one thing that we can't let die, since it will benefit us all.

I have a small site (free hosting) that I finished about a month ago.
My Webpage
Probobly just more of the same, but I hope you will consider reading some of the articles.

The design could be better, but the content is very strong. The articles I've read so far were very well written and accurate! These forums contain some new ideas, like a CPS homemade using balloons instead of LRT, a piston pressure homemade, a "line" of APH homemades, integration mods, and a load of other stuff. Feel free to use any of it. I'll link to you when the SM links page is redone. B)

Thanks! The design can't be helped I'm afraid. Geocities free hosting does not support PHP and I don't think it supports CSS either. Also, I'm no code expert. I could make image links on the nav bar, but any design update takes a lot of time, due to the fact that the PHP include function isn't supported :(
p.s. I am planning on making a PPP over Thanksgiving break, and then an APH next semester for a science project. The PPP was actually the first homemade I actually considered making :)

The PPP is definately one of the more interesting homemades. You can't whip up any other homemade in 5 minutes! Once you get good at it, other types of homemades will be simple as well. I struggled with my first APH; now I've got tons and build one in under 2 hours.

Geocities doesn't offer much. Once SM gets its new hosting plan, Ill host your site. We will be able to support 2 domains, PHP, CSS, FTP uploads, email addresses, and will have plenty of space and bandwidth. Funny how things come full circle-notice the "sscentral.org" part of the current soakermedia.sscentral.org url! :lol:

Wow, thanks! Am I correct in understanding that you will no longer be part of SSCentral with the new hosting? I have been researching various coding languages, but the most useful thing I have found so far is the PHP include. I would really like to make the deign better, but even with 20-25 pages, it takes me at least 15 minutes to make even a small change in the design. I hope I will be able to make a design that I like within the next few months, so I could change it all at the same time.

I whipped up my first APH in 15 minutes...which is pretty close...

We aren't officially part of SSC, but Doom liked us so he has hosted the site. The move is mainly space oriented, SM is simply growing too fast. We need more space for the giant gallery update and our wars and modding movies.

I really love the PHP Include function, it ranks up there with CSS as one of the most useful things a webmaster can have. Include can make even major design changes take a matter of seconds sometimes. The new SM site will have hundreds of pages, yet the common design can be changed for all those pages with one click. I've also learned that one is never truely satisfied with their design. I've changed the SM design again, and again, and again. It took a lot to get from version 1 to version 2.

Well, mainly what I meant was will you be changing your domain?
I hope I can find some other useful tricks to improve the design, but the most useful thing I could use at this point is PHP. I probobly wouldn't be able to find a free host that supports PHP, but even if I did, I wouldn't use it unless it was ad-free (I really hate the Angelfire and Freeservers type ads that take up more space than your page :angry: ).

I'm buying a domain, not saying what it is so it can't be bought by someone else.

When we host you [if you want, it's up to you] it will be free and support PHP [hey, that rhymes!].

I would be glad to be able to host my site on your new domain! That would also allow me to have more than 15 megs (well, it's free, you can't complain ) of space. I have also had the problem of data transfer, but only once, when I was continually changing and reloading pages.

As of now, my site is only 5 megs (including my personal site that takes up about half of that), but I write articles as soon as I know enough about the subject the article will be about, and my site is growing fast :) .

15 megs? That's terrible. You could have at least 50, since we are never going to use all 1000 megs of space. The old SM site only takes up ~25 mbs, including about 250 pages and all its images. The new site may take up a few hundred, but most of the space is there for insurance and might not all be used.

I really like your articles, although some of the review stats seem to be copied from iSoaker pages. If that is true, then I would ask him about that and cite the source, if it isn't, then I commend you for taking the time to get exact measurements!

Oh, do you know how to use FTP? Cause the hosting probably won't have a template style upload option.

The stats were not copied. I took them all myself (well... I just used the reservoir size advertised on the box).

Unfortunatly, I do not know how to use FTP, although my dad does. I could learn it pretty easily, I believe.

Does Geocities not allow uploading of CSS files? CSS is not a server-side thing, so I don't see at all how any host could not allow it.

This is correct. There had been too many websites before that were destroyed by free hosting, so I decided to help these guys out. Right now they use almost as much space as our website does, so switching to their own hosting would be the best idea. It's also great to see that you guys are going to return the favor to a new webmaster! This method hasn't failed yet in creating a good website.

Is there a problem with the webring M4? You said you would do it 3 week's ago and I have seen no progress in that time.

Also if/when the webring goes up, be sure to add m15399's site to it.

I have not tried using CSS, but I assumed that it wouldn't work because the include files couldnt be accessed. It acted like a downloadable file (when I opened it it began downloading).

I believe he said that you had to be a member of another webring to create one at iSoaker.com. He's working on it from what I know. If I got down to buying the domain name I wanted to, we could make a link exchange as opposed to a webring. ;)

Why did you try to open it? :huh:

Send me a link if you need help...

What Doom said was right. I think that I'm just going to make a new page, and hopefully Doom and I can come up with our own code, maybe we won't even need that. Maybe we'll just use an image and check it manually.