Title: Close Comabt rules!!!!
Description: Urgent must read!!
Spartan-118 - March 24, 2005 08:24 AM (GMT)
ok when you are in close combat, does having a power weapon count as having an extra attack or is the amount on profile all power weapons? also do you count extra attack for holdng eg: a bolter and a bolt pistol.
Because in most instances, Emperors champion Akeris will get up to 6 attacks for each normal marine.
1 attack from profile
1 attack for holding a bolter
1 attack for having a bolt pistol strapped to the marines leg
1attack for the charge
and if using a power weapon he will use another seperate attack for a power weapon???
ive let this slide because i couldnt be bothered arguing, but im sure thats not how its done.
and im not even going to count how many attacks his assult squad gets!!!!
emperors champion akeris - March 24, 2005 09:42 AM (GMT)
You only get an extra attack for holding 2 weapons, charging and terminator honours.
You dont get an extra attack for holster weapons nor do you gain an attack for power weapons, it just preplaces the attack with a ccw.
to clarify-
The only model in my army that gets 6 attacks is my chaplin 4 profile, 1 for bolt pistol and 1 for charging.
my assault squad
10 marines 2 attacks per marine with bolt pistol and ccw + 1 for charging = 24 attacks (2X8+8)
3 power fist attacks if charging 2 if not
3 power weapon attacks if charging 2 if not
thats only a grand total of 30 attacks at 3 per model.
Spartan-118 - March 24, 2005 09:59 AM (GMT)
No, every battle your marines always get up to 6 attacks. Everyone in our group knows it.
emperors champion akeris - March 24, 2005 10:25 AM (GMT)
Lol well everyone is dead wrong david.
How can a marine have 6 attacks? So that must mean my chaplin has 24 attacks.
I have proven to you how many attacks my assault squad and my chaplin get what else do you need?
Spartan-118 - March 25, 2005 08:23 AM (GMT)
Silas - April 5, 2005 06:30 PM (GMT)
Lets see, you get +1 attack for charging and +1 attack for Two Weapons.
There are various things like Terminator Honours or special abilities that also convey extra attacks.
A basic maine has a total of 2 attacks when charging. 1 on his profile and 1 for charging. Some marines have a bolt pistol and CCW in which case they get 3 attacks.
Power weapons, force weapons, power fist/claws, Thunder Hammers, and Witchblades all count as CCW and so if there are two of them, or one of them and a pistol then you get the +1 attack for Two Weapons as well.
Akeris' example with his chaplain is wrong. Chaplains have 3 attacks on their profile. Then they add Terminator Honours, making 4 attacks. They then get an extra attack if they have a pistol and ccw, and a further attack if they charge. While that is still a total of 6 attacks it was originally worked out wrong.
emperors champion akeris - April 6, 2005 12:18 AM (GMT)
Silas under the old rules the chaplin has 4 attacks on profile + bolt pistol + honours whilst carrying the crozius arcanum in the other hand. That granted him 4 + 2 attacks without charging.
I also understand that they now have only 3 attacks.