Title: general music discussion
Description: Discuss music issues here rather than ru
emperors champion akeris - March 17, 2005 11:48 AM (GMT)
Well argue your band here, rather than in now playing.
Ok first what do you all have against rammstein?
Bolivious - March 17, 2005 11:58 AM (GMT)
i just say i dont like the german singing its sucks, then you have to go into all this detail about whats wrong with hatebreed, i mean who cares. and defending your taste of music??? we have the same taste apart from those 2 bands.
Oblivious - March 17, 2005 12:00 PM (GMT)
i have no problem with rammstein, i like rammstein because its good music and i can understand waht they are saying :lol: so when i listen to rammstein, it feels like im just listening to another english speaking band.
hatebreed is also a very good band, but i can understand if you dont like them, the singing could use a little work :lol:
emperors champion akeris - March 18, 2005 10:45 AM (GMT)
I have a problem with hatebreed because theyre not harmonious and their lyrics make very little sense. Its plain as day to see that they are taking what slipknot left behind, something which i think is quite funny and pathetic. Finally isnt a singer or screamer in this case supposed to sing with the words, not in between them?
Rammstien however have lyrics that have emotional meaning, harmonius and they are the most popular band in europe.
Bolivious - March 18, 2005 10:51 AM (GMT)
is aus part of europe?
and i thinks thats maybe because its in their language
and u say the lyrics mean something, can you actually understand them or do you go on the net and check what they mean?
and hatebreed singing isnt tht good i admit but the lyrics have truth and purpose, unlike half of slipknots songs, and the guitaring is alot better than slipknots.
emperors champion akeris - March 18, 2005 10:58 AM (GMT)
Yes but when you compare slipknot Iowa and Hatebreed rise opf brutality, theyre very close. Both albums fit in the trash metal category.
I undertsand german quite well and well it sounds good so why not.
Ok i hate siomple plan!!!!!!
Bolivious - March 18, 2005 11:04 AM (GMT)
Ok i agree simple plan must die.
simple plan will die because i rekon even god hates there music,
and iowa and the rise of brutality are nothing alike i mean different voices(as obvious) hatebreed has much better guitaring.
and half of the songs on iowa arnt very trash metal type songs, which you would notice if you actually listened to more than just three songs.
emperors champion akeris - March 18, 2005 11:12 AM (GMT)
I dunno i havent heard a lot of hatebreed but i think the reason you like the guitaring is because it occurs in between singing, not harmonically with the singer. This must play a role in why it sounds better.
Also slipknot is trashmetal minus a few subliminal verses songs, every one with musical authority says so. On an artical i read, a lot of people say that they cannot recognise slipknot as a good heavy metal band because of their beginnings. Scarey but very true.
I like slipknot for who they are, although i have to say that i dislike a lot of their ongs on iowa and wait and bleed/self titled.
Bolivious - March 18, 2005 11:31 AM (GMT)
yeh but have you noticed that nearly all off those articles always try and pay out heavy metal bands these days?
cause i read articles all the time and they always try and put all the bads things in and keep the good things out
emperors champion akeris - March 18, 2005 11:43 AM (GMT)
Yes but this was on metal sludge where the truth is out there.
I have to agree that the guitaring is better, but i think hey are a gimmick, by this i mean stealing slipknots former image.
I dunno honestly, i just dislike their style of screaming im afraid <_<
Oblivious - March 18, 2005 11:57 AM (GMT)
bolivious you have to be joking...better guitaring...seriously dean, jim and mick are two of the worlds best guitarists, slipknot has better guitaring. but thats your opinion, and this is my opinion.
Bolivious - March 18, 2005 12:21 PM (GMT)
seriously dale, jim i can say is good guitarist but, mick is just a plain head banger and nothing more, and the whole purpose of hatebreed is based mainly on the guitaring, and in half of the slipknot songs the guitaring is almost silent, but thats probably just because everyone is just listening for joeys druming
Oblivious - March 18, 2005 12:42 PM (GMT)
how can you say that, mick is the main guitarist, and have you heard vol 3? most of it is guitar solos and jammin, eg opium of the people, welcome, duality, etc
emperors champion akeris - March 19, 2005 01:11 AM (GMT)
Yer well slipknot is now HEAVY METAL not hatebreed which is TOTAL TRASH METAL thats why they sound different.
Remember dale, dean thinks that the sub vereses are knots worst album, and he wrong its a work of art unlike iowa, he ignores the truth that its a lot better thn anything theyve done. Iowa was an excuse to be angry just like hatebreeds album.
Bolivious - March 19, 2005 03:53 AM (GMT)
excuse me i never said that vol 3 was the worst cd, i just think that most of the songs on iowa are better than vol.3 like left behind, everything ends, scissors and i am hated. and um three songs makes alot of guitaring doesnt it, and i meant slipknnots guitaring is practically slient compared to hatebreeds because slipknots drumming is put up louder than the guitaring and hatebreeds guitaring is put up louder than the drumming, anyway who gives a fuk they r both good bands. same as murderdolls they have better guitaring than slipknot as well because it is a bigger part f the band than joeys drumming.
Oblivious - March 19, 2005 07:47 AM (GMT)
yeah i like to listen to those songs a bit more than vol 3, because it helps me skitz out :lol: plus left behind is my fav. and scissors is on self titled dean.
but what am i to say anything, slipknot are my favouriteband and i like all the albums lol
ghosty - March 19, 2005 08:17 AM (GMT)
hehehehe i fing it funny thinking about what dale would look like skitzing out
Bolivious - March 19, 2005 10:06 AM (GMT)
i find it funny thinking about what todd would be like acting straight.
soz i didnt mean to put scissors i meant to put circle, i think.
emperors champion akeris - March 19, 2005 10:14 AM (GMT)
Ignore todd's cmment he cant skitz out to anything other than polyphonic spree lol.
My fav knot songs are :
before i forget
opium of the people
the blister exists and
the heretics anthem
I also think pulse of the maggots is shit and extremely overated.
Bolivious - March 19, 2005 10:18 AM (GMT)
pulse of the maggots gor rated the darkest song on vol.3 so thats probably why you dont like it,
my fav slipknot songs are:
everything ends
the blister exists
dont get close
spit it out
duality
left behind
opium of the people
i am hated
Oblivious - March 19, 2005 10:38 AM (GMT)
lol well if your going to grinspoon or atreyu, were ever were going, you can see me skitz out lol.
my favourite are
left behind
wait and bleed
the heretic anthem
welcome
spit it out
i am hated
everything ends
the blister exists
heaps of other aswell
emperors champion akeris - March 19, 2005 11:06 AM (GMT)
Hmm everyones going to see shihad which sounds pretty much the same as grinspoon just a bit heavier. and ive never heard a song by atreyu
Bolivious - March 19, 2005 11:39 PM (GMT)
well just trying to think no other bands i know can be compared to atreyu, but they are a metal band, sort of like the lead singer of killswitch engage singing to darker type of metal music.
Oblivious - March 20, 2005 02:10 AM (GMT)
well im undecided, whatever you guys decide to go to, im fine either way
Erokose - March 21, 2005 09:54 AM (GMT)
Im going grinspoon, I don't want to go to atrail and not like them.
Bolivious - March 21, 2005 11:07 AM (GMT)
yeh its called atreyu and there alot better than grinspoon, and the moshes will be psyhco, compared to grinspoon.
Erokose - March 21, 2005 11:17 AM (GMT)
Yeah Ive never heard of them and I pay for a tickit and go and end up not liking them it would be a huge waste of money.
emperors champion akeris - March 21, 2005 11:19 AM (GMT)
thats what i have decided. Im not going to any concerts unless theyre bands i like and ive heard of.
Erokose - March 21, 2005 11:20 AM (GMT)
Definately, cause it would just cost too much to go to a concert for the sake of going.
Bolivious - March 21, 2005 11:52 AM (GMT)
hhmm heres an idea, grab ure mouse goto watever download program you have, open it up, goto audio, type in atreyu, then download a song. its not that hard i did it, because then you can decide whether u like the bands, otherwise how did you ever like slipknot unless you listened to them.
Erokose - March 22, 2005 05:52 AM (GMT)
Well I could do that but I got too much music.
Oblivious - March 22, 2005 06:17 AM (GMT)
that wouldnt matter, just download it, listen to it, if you don't like it delete it and go to grinspoon.
Erokose - March 22, 2005 06:19 AM (GMT)
Im just gonna go to Grinspoon, don't have enough money for both.
Bolivious - March 22, 2005 06:28 AM (GMT)
haha to much music, what a load of bullsh*t jeez a mini ipod can hold more music than what u have, and u got a big as hdd
Oblivious - March 22, 2005 06:42 AM (GMT)
yeah thats a pretty sad coment, you don't have that much music, most of its on ur brothers computer isnt it?
Erokose - March 22, 2005 06:46 AM (GMT)
What the hell are you guys talking about?
Ive got 2g of music. Ive got 40 different bands and most have 2 albums in each folder.
Oblivious - March 22, 2005 06:48 AM (GMT)
well thats pretty amazing considering i've neer seen anyof that, ive only seen about 15 different bands on your comp
Erokose - March 22, 2005 06:52 AM (GMT)
You haven't been over mine in ages. Ive got heaps more music.
Oblivious - March 22, 2005 06:57 AM (GMT)
where did you get all the music from then, i was over your place a while ago and i didnt see it
Erokose - March 22, 2005 08:43 AM (GMT)
Downloaded it and off my bro's IRIVER.