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Title: JEEPERS CREEPERS vs. UNSOLVED MYSTERIES


William S. Wilson - December 14, 2007 03:42 PM (GMT)
Wow, there is no doubt Salva saw this segment and worked it into his first film. One can easily argue off the road rage stuff as DUEL inspired. But the shots of the guy by the church and the van are nearly identical, as is the license plate game. I'm very disappointed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yh8B-OI_1uQ

Bob Gutowski - December 14, 2007 04:31 PM (GMT)
It doesn't really bother me. I don't hate PSYCHO because Robert Bloch was intrigued by the Ed Gein case. I'd be upset if it were a fictional account Salva ripped off, as opposed to his having adapting a true incident.

William S. Wilson - December 14, 2007 04:46 PM (GMT)
It isn't that he adapted a true incident that bothers me. It is that Salva appears to have ripped off exact shots from that segment.

Richard Harland Smith - December 14, 2007 05:29 PM (GMT)
Hmm... pedophile, plagiarist... does anybody know if Victor Salva collects stamps, too?

William S. Wilson - December 14, 2007 06:26 PM (GMT)
I wondered how long that other "p" would show up.

Julian Knott - December 14, 2007 09:02 PM (GMT)
Wow! The creators of that UNSOLVED MYSTERIES segment should have received writing / directing credits on the movie!

I'm slightly disappointed to see this, because I liked JEEPERS CREEPERS, and thought that the first half hour was far better than the rather routine cat-and-mouse runaround that followed.

Richard Harland Smith - December 14, 2007 09:04 PM (GMT)
In all seriousness, I was surprised at how superior the amateurish UNSOLVED MYSTERIES clip was to JEEPERS CREEPERS. When the no-name couple playing themselves went back to the school, I actually leaned in closer to savor the suspense. I didn't get a second of that enjoyment out of JEEPERS CREEPERS, which also seemed to sample from THE TERMINATOR and the made-for-TV STORM OF THE CENTURY in its genre pilferage. Hey, another P word!

Darren Gross - December 14, 2007 10:08 PM (GMT)
Pilferage, Philatilist, par for the course... ;)

Andrew King - December 15, 2007 09:36 AM (GMT)
Erm, is that a real or pastiche Unsolved Mysteries segment - shot in the style of Jeepers Creepers? Should I be this confused?!

William S. Wilson - December 15, 2007 02:38 PM (GMT)
It is real and originally aired in 1990, 11 years before JEEPERS CREEPERS.

Alan Maxwell - December 15, 2007 04:48 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Julian Knott @ Dec 14 2007, 03:02 PM)
Wow! The creators of that UNSOLVED MYSTERIES segment should have received writing / directing credits on the movie!

Maybe they were, but did the understandable thing and refused?

QUOTE
I'm slightly disappointed to see this, because I liked JEEPERS CREEPERS


You'll have gathered I didn't!

I'm not so much disappointed that JC is a rip-off - I'm more disappointed that I wasted almost an hour and a half of my life watching it when it now appears I could have achieved more in six and a half minutes.

Craig Blamer - December 15, 2007 05:07 PM (GMT)
I dunno... maybe the inspiration for Jeepers Creepers was actually that segment of Unsolved Mysteries, and as a nod Salva stapled it to his sleeve?

If so, I consider it to be a cool little in-joke.

I agree that the UM bit with the couple going back to the abandoned school was surprisingly effective. Although I was more, "You stupid idiots... what the hell are you doing?"

Richard Harland Smith - December 15, 2007 07:42 PM (GMT)
QUOTE
"You stupid idiots... what the hell are you doing?"


Is that the first time you've uttered that phrase? Big musical comedy fan are you? ;)

Craig Blamer - December 16, 2007 12:07 AM (GMT)
Well, nope.

What am I missing?

Richard Harland Smith - December 16, 2007 03:43 AM (GMT)
Eh, it was funny when I thought of it. Maybe I shouldn't have used my outside voice.

Joel Stein - December 16, 2007 06:29 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Richard Harland Smith @ Dec 15 2007, 09:43 PM)
Eh, it was funny when I thought of it.

Aw, it was funny when I read it! Still is!

John W McKelvey - December 16, 2007 08:21 AM (GMT)
Ripped it off and left out the best moment (blood on the inside of the car door).

Craig Blamer - December 16, 2007 05:02 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Joel Stein @ Dec 15 2007, 11:29 PM)
Aw, it was funny when I read it! Still is!

It must be me, then... it once took me two years before I got a joke. It was a random joke that took some Hollywood insider knowledge (at that time), but still...

John W McKelvey - December 16, 2007 10:27 PM (GMT)
Don't worry; I don't get it either. ;)

Jeff McKay - December 16, 2007 10:37 PM (GMT)
Nor I.

Maybe it's a line from a musical comedy we've never seen. :unsure:

Joel Stein - December 17, 2007 07:03 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Richard Harland Smith @ Dec 15 2007, 01:42 PM)
QUOTE
"You stupid idiots... what the hell are you doing?"


Is that the first time you've uttered that phrase? Big musical comedy fan are you? ;)

OK, here's my interpretation...

The vast majority of horror movies feature stupid characters doing idiotic things that put them in danger. Hence, if you watch horror movies regularly, you undoubtedly find yourself saying "You stupid idiots... what the hell are you doing?" all the time. But if you've never uttered that phrase, then you must not watch horror movies. So, then, you must be a fan of a different genre...say, musical comedies? One rarely utters "You stupid idiots... what the hell are you doing?" when watching musical comedies (except maybe during PAINT YOUR WAGON).

:lol:

Izzat what you were going for, RHS?

Craig Blamer - December 17, 2007 05:43 PM (GMT)
Ahhh... yes, I'm a little slow on the uptake.

But in my defense, while I can see the two young adults in Jeepers Creepers doing something like that and just going with the flow (because it's a genre trope and they're stupid kids, y'know?), as a recreation in Unsolved Mysteries I'd expect a real-life middle-aged couple to show a little more of the self-preservationist instincts.

Although the suspected psycho was just as dim, pulling up in plain sight of the couple to change his plates and obligingly opening the gore-washed passenger door for their benefit.

Maybe they should have all just hooked up for a stupid idiot brunch down the road...

Note: while I generally don't watch musical comedies as a rule, I recently saw the musical version of Reefer Madness and really, really enjoyed it...

Bob Gutowski - December 17, 2007 05:56 PM (GMT)
QUOTE
Ahhh... yes, I'm a little slow on the uptake.


Yeah, so what ARE you? A musical comedy fan? 'Cause I'M a musical comedy fan...but I'm also a guy who yells, "No, don't open that door!"

JEFFREY ALLEN RYDELL - December 17, 2007 06:16 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Bob Gutowski @ Dec 17 2007, 12:56 PM)
Yeah, so what ARE you? A musical comedy fan? 'Cause I'M a musical comedy fan...but I'm also a guy who yells, "No, don't open that door!"

I expect a Rex Harrisonesque sing-yell from you at the very least, Gutowski. Otherwise, what's the point?

Bob Gutowski - December 17, 2007 07:12 PM (GMT)
DON'T OPEN THAT DOOR!,
NO,
DON'T OPEN THAT DOOR,
FOR
CROUCHING IN THE CORNER,
SET TO MAKE YOUR WIFE A MOURNER,
IS AN AXE-BEARING
CORPSE-WEARING
MALADJUSTED FELLOW,
WHO, WITH JUST ONE LOOK
WILL TURN YOUR HEART TO JELLO,
AND YOUR SKIN A SHADE OF YELLOW...!

Richard Harland Smith - December 17, 2007 07:26 PM (GMT)
QUOTE
The vast majority of horror movies feature stupid characters doing idiotic things that put them in danger. Hence, if you watch horror movies regularly, you undoubtedly find yourself saying "You stupid idiots... what the hell are you doing?" all the time. But if you've never uttered that phrase, then you must not watch horror movies. So, then, you must be a fan of a different genre...say, musical comedies?


Joel so gets me.

Now, Bob, another chorus of DON'T OPEN THAT DOOR, please.

JEFFREY ALLEN RYDELL - December 17, 2007 07:38 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Bob Gutowski @ Dec 17 2007, 02:12 PM)
DON'T OPEN THAT DOOR!,
NO,
DON'T OPEN THAT DOOR,
FOR
CROUCHING IN THE CORNER,
SET TO MAKE YOUR WIFE A MOURNER,
IS AN AXE-BEARING
CORPSE-WEARING
MALADJUSTED FELLOW,
WHO, WITH JUST ONE LOOK
WILL TURN YOUR HEART TO JELLO,
AND YOUR SKIN A SHADE OF YELLOW...!

Bravo!

You shouldn't wonder at how excuses tend to be made when it's time for "Let's Go To The Movies With Bob", however... ;)

Bob Gutowski - December 19, 2007 04:32 PM (GMT)
As a holiday treat, I've written a second verse, and I've added a repeat of the hook at the end of each:

DON'T OPEN THAT DOOR,
NO,
DON'T OPEN THAT DOOR,
FOR
CROUCHING IN THE CORNER,
SET TO MAKE YOUR WIFE A MOURNER,
IS AN AXE-BEARING
CORPSE-WEARING
MALADJUSTED FELLOW,
WHO WITH JUST ONE LOOK
WILL TURN YOUR HEART TO JELLO,
AND YOUR SKIN A SHADE OF YELLOW,
SO JUST
DON'T OPEN THE DOOR!

DON'T ANSWER THE PHONE,
NO,
DON'T ANSWER THE PHONE
'CAUSE,
MISS, AS SURE AS SHOOTIN',
IT'S A LOON WHO'LL BE SALUTIN'
YOU WITH BONE-CHILLING
SOUL-KILLING
WORDS OF WOE AND SLAUGHTER
AND HIS FINAL PHRASE
WILL TURN YOUR BLOOD TO WATER,
WHEN HE SAYS "I'VE GOT YOUR DAUGHTER!"
SO JUST
DON'T ANSWER THE PHONE!

JEFFREY ALLEN RYDELL - December 19, 2007 07:45 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Bob Gutowski @ Dec 19 2007, 11:32 AM)
As a holiday treat, I've written a second verse, and I've added a repeat of the hook at the end of each:

DON'T OPEN THAT DOOR,
NO,
DON'T OPEN THAT DOOR,
FOR
CROUCHING IN THE CORNER,
SET TO MAKE YOUR WIFE A MOURNER,
IS AN AXE-BEARING
CORPSE-WEARING
MALADJUSTED FELLOW,
WHO WITH JUST ONE LOOK
WILL TURN YOUR HEART TO JELLO,
AND YOUR SKIN A SHADE OF YELLOW,
SO JUST
DON'T OPEN THE DOOR!

DON'T ANSWER THE PHONE,
NO,
DON'T ANSWER THE PHONE
'CAUSE,
MISS, AS SURE AS SHOOTIN',
IT'S A LOON WHO'LL BE SALUTIN'
YOU WITH BONE-CHILLING
SOUL-KILLING
WORDS OF WOE AND SLAUGHTER
AND HIS FINAL PHRASE
WILL TURN YOUR BLOOD TO WATER,
WHEN HE SAYS "I'VE GOT YOUR DAUGHTER!"
SO JUST
DON'T ANSWER THE PHONE!

Wow - Don't Challenge The Gutowski!

Well done, sir! Though your policy of non-interventionism in the face of daughter-napping is disturbing to me. The poor dear...

Bob Gutowski - December 19, 2007 08:05 PM (GMT)
Perhaps...he LIES!

Thanks!

JEFFREY ALLEN RYDELL - December 19, 2007 08:37 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Bob Gutowski @ Dec 19 2007, 03:05 PM)
Perhaps...he LIES!

Thanks!

But can he afford to take that chance? CAN HE?!?

Bob Gutowski - December 19, 2007 08:58 PM (GMT)
I bet the trailer will give it away!

JEFFREY ALLEN RYDELL - December 19, 2007 09:28 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Bob Gutowski @ Dec 19 2007, 03:58 PM)
I bet the trailer will give it away!

That's the problem with *real life*, Bob - not enough like a Hollywood trailer. Been saying it for years...

William S. Wilson - December 20, 2007 12:52 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Bob Gutowski @ Dec 19 2007, 10:32 AM)
As a holiday treat, I've written a second verse, and I've added a repeat of the hook at the end of each:

I demand a third verse featuring DON'T LOOK IN THE BASEMENT!

Bob Gutowski - December 20, 2007 04:42 PM (GMT)
Well, it IS the holidays...we'll see!

Craig Blamer - December 20, 2007 05:02 PM (GMT)
Well, as the season is all about warm-n-fuzzy, shouldn't the refrain be "Don't Look Into Debasement"?

Bob Gutowski - December 20, 2007 05:43 PM (GMT)
Oh, behave! ;)

Rather than write a "basement" section, I'm taking those two busy little verses and turning them into a lyric for a real song for the BMI Workshop of which I'm a member. Thanks for the challenge!




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