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Title: Help identify a movie
Description: Robert Vaughn/robot story?


Mark Entwistle - March 23, 2007 01:49 PM (GMT)
I'd be grateful if anyone here could help me out. I've been asked to identify a movie which very probably starred Robert Vaughn, in which he played the bad guy who turned out to be a robot.

I've been watching his movies since the days of Napoleon Solo, but this one must have passed me by. Thanks.

William S. Wilson - March 23, 2007 03:12 PM (GMT)
The only thing that popped into my head is THE LUCIFER COMPLEX (1978). That ends with Vaughn confronting his evil clone.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0077877/

Marty McKee - March 23, 2007 03:28 PM (GMT)
THE DEMON SEED (even though Vaughn isn't exactly in it)? Or, and I haven't seen this movie, THE MIND OF DR. SOAMES?

Darren Gross - March 23, 2007 04:06 PM (GMT)
There's nothing like that in MIND OF MR. SOAMES- just human beings.

Richard Harland Smith - March 23, 2007 08:16 PM (GMT)
And a spikey ball.

Terry Barhorst, Jr. - March 23, 2007 09:10 PM (GMT)
Maybe it's not Robert Vaughn (which kinda opens up the field...). Unless, could it be a tv episode rather than a movie? He's done a tonne of tv work.

JEFFREY ALLEN RYDELL - March 23, 2007 09:31 PM (GMT)
It ain't this, but in SUPERMAN III his sister (played by Annie Ross) gets turned into a cyborg. Hmm, Vaughn and robots, who knew?

Brian Camp - March 23, 2007 09:53 PM (GMT)
There's a MAGNIFICENT SEVEN (1960) connection. Vaughn was one of the original Seven in that film, along with Yul Brynner, who later dressed in his black western M7 outfit to play a lethal malfunctioning robot in WESTWORLD (1973).

Mark Entwistle - March 26, 2007 09:18 AM (GMT)
Thanks to everyone who replied, or even thought about it.

Given that the collective brain of Mobius is unable to identify this movie - and I don't know anywhere smarter when it comes to this sort of thing - I will go back to my sister-in-law, and politely suggest that she has sent us on a wild goose chase.

Christopher Lupold - March 26, 2007 01:54 PM (GMT)
Didn't Vaughn's character in BATTLE BEYOND THE STARS want to be immortal by replacing his body parts with robotics or something? Or was that John Saxon's character?

Terry Barhorst, Jr. - March 26, 2007 03:09 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Christopher Lupold @ Mar 26 2007, 07:54 AM)
Didn't Vaughn's character in BATTLE BEYOND THE STARS want to be immortal by replacing his body parts with robotics or something? Or was that John Saxon's character?

That would be Saxon's character. And it was mostly with other peoples' body parts, using robotics as a last resort.

Mark Entwistle - March 27, 2007 10:08 AM (GMT)
Well it turns out that William was right, even if the question was wrong - THE LUCIFER COMPLEX is our answer.

The original question-setter says thanks, it was indeed a clone not a robot, and "the other worrying thing is that I remember it as being a top film but the consensus is that it's a dog". I suspect that's a feeling most of us became used to many years ago.

William S. Wilson - March 27, 2007 02:36 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Mark Entwistle @ Mar 27 2007, 04:08 AM)
Well it turns out that William was right, even if the question was wrong - THE LUCIFER COMPLEX is our answer.

Of course I was! Did you ever doubt me? Payment can be made through Paypal. :) Seriously, I'm glad your friend's dilema is now over (until he watches the movie again).

Mark Entwistle - March 27, 2007 05:04 PM (GMT)
The problem now is that looking at the plot and cast, I need to see it more than he does so my DVD budget for this month is blown. Good job the exchange rate is on my side.

Anyway, I love this site. How many places can give you answers to questions you haven't even asked?

:D

Bill Picard - January 14, 2008 07:06 PM (GMT)
I need some help of my own naming three movies. These shouldn't be too hard for you folks since I think they're pretty well-known, but I'm bad with names.

1. A silent movie, sci-fi/horror. I'm guessing 1924-7, American. It deals with an underwater expedition to the bottom of the sea. The creatures they encounter are inky, man-sized sperm-looking things that chase the protagonists. They're creepy-looking but not in it a whole lot. Runs about 75 minutes. It was on TCM years ago and I taped it to VHS but can't find the tape now.

2. All-black cast, circa 1935-45. Gorgeous pastel Technicolor, I'm guessing it was MGM. Retelling of Biblical stories, set in the South. I came into this halfway through and liked what I saw but I didn't see the beginning and forget the name.

3. Vaguest memory from early childhood afternoon TV. Horror anthology from the 70's, pretty sure American not British. Someone--a woman I think--gets a box with a ribbon around it, opens it up and there's a severed arm inside. It's not the movie The Severed Arm and it's definitely not a head or a heart in the box. No other memories.

Brian Camp - January 14, 2008 07:38 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Bill Picard @ Jan 14 2008, 01:06 PM)
I need some help of my own naming three movies. These shouldn't be too hard for you folks since I think they're pretty well-known, but I'm bad with names.

1. A silent movie, sci-fi/horror. I'm guessing 1924-7, American. It deals with an underwater expedition to the bottom of the sea. The creatures they encounter are inky, man-sized sperm-looking things that chase the protagonists. They're creepy-looking but not in it a whole lot. Runs about 75 minutes. It was on TCM years ago and I taped it to VHS but can't find the tape now.

2. All-black cast, circa 1935-45. Gorgeous pastel Technicolor, I'm guessing it was MGM. Retelling of Biblical stories, set in the South. I came into this halfway through and liked what I saw but I didn't see the beginning and forget the name.

3. Vaguest memory from early childhood afternoon TV. Horror anthology from the 70's, pretty sure American not British. Someone--a woman I think--gets a box with a ribbon around it, opens it up and there's a severed arm inside. It's not the movie The Severed Arm and it's definitely not a head or a heart in the box. No other memories.

My guesses:

1. MYSTERIOUS ISLAND (1929) - part silent, part sound. Based on the Verne novel.

2. Your description matches GREEN PASTURES (1936) from WB, but it was in b&w, never in Technicolor, unless you saw a Turner colorized version. (I don't recall Turner ever colorizing that particular title, but I could be wrong.) The earliest all-black cast film that was in color would be CARMEN JONES (1953).

3. I'll leave that to the horror buffs.

Adam Tyner - January 14, 2008 08:15 PM (GMT)
Believe the answer for #3 is Force of Evil, the pilot for Tales of the Unexpected.

From Joe Bob Briggs' "Find that Flick" column:

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Week 28 (from October 19, 2003) - Paul Zdanowicz of Roselle Park, NJ writes: Hey Joe Bob and all fans, I need help finding a film that left such a strong impression on me from early childhood. The last scene gave me nightmares for years and I'm not even sure why. It ends with a delivery man arriving at the lead female's home with a long white box. Earlier in the film she received the same box with what I believe was her husband's arm in it. As she stares at the box a voice over comes on that says something like "If you believe in the good of mankind then the box only contains flowers. However, if you believe in evil..." That's really all I have to go on. Please help this has been bugging me for about twenty years now!

We had two correct answers so the winner was determined by a drawing.

Thomas "Ratman" Swafford of Soddy Daisy, TN writes: " 'Force of Evil.' This was actually the premier episode of "Quinn Martin's Tales of the Unexpected" from 1977.This may be listed as "Tales of the Unexpected". This may have either been a pilot movie or a 60-minute episode. This episode starred veteran actors Lloyd Bridges and John Anderson. Although it only lasted one season, this was a genuinely suspenseful series with William Conrad as narrator. I wish Sci-Fi or some other network would rebroadcast this series. '

Also answering correctly was Alfred Guy of Cantonsville, MD who adds, "It was a TV movie from the U.S. based series Tale of the Unexpected. The arm was supposed to belong to the lady's son, it had his class ring on one of the fingers. It turns out that the villain got the arm from the hospital he worked in."

Bill Picard - January 15, 2008 02:43 AM (GMT)
Thanks very much, Brian and Adam. It was definitely MYSTERIOUS ISLAND and GREEN PASTURES, though I don't know why I remember the latter as being in color. I trust Brian more than I trust my brain, though.

As for the third one, it definitely played on TV as TALES OF THE UNEXPECTED when I saw it as a kid. That title and the bit about the class ring come back to me now. Funniest thing about this is that the guy who wrote in to Joe Bob Briggs back in 2003 lives in a town 5 minutes from me!

Jeff McKay - January 15, 2008 03:08 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Bill Picard @ Jan 14 2008, 08:43 PM)
Thanks very much, Brian and Adam. It was definitely MYSTERIOUS ISLAND and GREEN PASTURES, though I don't know why I remember the latter as being in color. I trust Brian more than I trust my brain, though.

As for the third one, it definitely played on TV as TALES OF THE UNEXPECTED when I saw it as a kid. That title and the bit about the class ring come back to me now. Funniest thing about this is that the guy who wrote in to Joe Bob Briggs back in 2003 lives in a town 5 minutes from me!

That "Tales of the Unexpected" tv-film was once releasd on VHS by Worldvision Video. The video is under the "FORCE OF EVIL" title, but the film itself still opens with the "Quinn Martin's Tales of the Unexpected" intro. I just watched that tape about two weeks ago and still didn't connect the dots between your description and what I just saw so recently. Your description was perfect, though, so I guess I should take a memory class!

By the way, it's a pretty good tv-thriller that made me interested in tracking down the rest of those episodes (as far as I know, none of the other ones were ever released on video). The "Force of Evil" episode does run a full 100 minutes and features Jan from "The Brady Bunch" as a sister to one of the lead characters. Speaking of Eve Plumb and tv-movies, I found a bargain-bin DVD of "Alexander - The Other Side of Dawn" a few weeks ago. The quality is atrocious and I strongly question if it's legit, but it was nice to finally see the film. I paid $2 for the DVD and it even has a bonus Charlie Sheen 'suicide' tv-move on it which was actually pretty good. If only we could get the first "Dawn" movie released!


JEFFREY ALLEN RYDELL - January 15, 2008 03:32 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Jeff McKay @ Jan 14 2008, 10:08 PM)
I just watched that tape about two weeks ago and still didn't connect the dots between your description and what I just saw so recently. Your description was perfect, though, so I guess I should take a memory class!

Whaddya mean memory class was yesterday?! D'oh!!




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