Title: Yet another argument for the death of network TV
Description: Someday they'll force you to watch ads!
Jeff Nelson - April 23, 2006 06:15 PM (GMT)
This was the first I've heard of this dubious technological advance. From MSNBC:
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SAN JOSE, Calif. - In this era of easy ad skipping with TiVo-like video recorders, could television viewers one day be forced to watch commercials with a system that prevents channel switching?
Yes, according to Royal Philips Electronics. A patent application with the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office says researchers of the Netherland-based consumer electronics company have created a technology that could let broadcasters freeze a channel during a commercial, so viewers wouldn't be able to avoid it. |
Don May Jr - April 23, 2006 08:17 PM (GMT)
During commercials, there's always the possibility of hitting your TVs "Off" button for about 3 minutes, though. Doubt they'll be able to disengage that.
Michael Wells - April 24, 2006 12:52 AM (GMT)
First three reactions, within the space of twenty seconds or so:
1) &#%$&!!
2) There has GOT to be a way that this is illegal. I paid for the friggin' machine - why should someone else be able to stop me from doing anything with it that isn't against the law?
3) I have my doubts that this will catch on much. Are even the networks dumb enough to think that further alienating their audience in this way will help them in the long run?
And as far as turning it off goes, if the networks go down this path, how long will it be before they invent a technology that prevents you from switching off the TV (or killing the sound) during a commercial? That seems no less unreasonable to me.
Jeff Nelson - April 24, 2006 06:20 AM (GMT)
The answer is simple: everyone stop watching network TV. I've found nothing much of interest on it for the past 10 years. What a colossal waste of spectrum.
Rob Peace - April 24, 2006 07:26 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Jeff Nelson @ Apr 24 2006, 12:20 AM) |
| The answer is simple: everyone stop watching network TV. |
I'd call that reaction... er, reactionary. But then there are several shows I regularly enjoy, even more so when skipping through the commercials with TiVo.
First off, it doesn't mention this being used by the networks at all. The only example they give seems to be a variation on pay-per-view, where you could pay to see an uninterrupted movie (as you would now), or accept commercials with it and watch it for free. Doesn't sound like the end of the world as we know it to me.
If the networks should try to implement this, I think the outcome is obvious: NO ONE would buy a TV with such a device in it.
James Cheney - April 24, 2006 08:30 AM (GMT)
My monthly question is do I keep paying for both TV and high speed Internet from the same provider. I'm on the verge of quitting so called 'cable' all together.
It irritates me that one needs to put up money regularly for what a one time investment in an antenna once got you while getting less old basic stuff one desires (like generic cartoons of the childhood kind) except at a premium price, getting a plethora of stuff you really don't want instead (gee thanks for the generosity overflowing), and losing even decent minimal acess if you drop the service (antennas aren't what they used to be in the cable-era; less eyesore, yes but less entry level, democratic access too). And anything genuinely cable-worthy (like HBO) is way beyond an average thinking person's budget.
Meanwhile, web streaming worldwide offers much more to freely pick and choose from, especially if you don't mind watching Russian movies broadcast pretty handsomely without subtitles and the like. Youtube.com alone gives one a month of sundays every day, and it's not illegal yet as far as I know. Not to mention thousands upon thousands of radio stations to check into.
The same conglomerate where I live is my provider for both. Sooner or later there's going to be a reckoning as to TV versus the Web as vying media, there has to be. An alla carte menu option as to what one wants on television just as a start. Give me Saudi TV without making me pay for women's NASCAR, for example, a way of navigating up to current web standards of what's free and individually 'On Demand' (the latter on a scale of occasional versus regular viewing). Right now, though, I've just about decided to quit the Cable version of the tube. It's not a reactionary choice or a judgement fn the medium, at all. It's the aggregators handling the medium who are behind the curve and who I'm cursing.
Tim Rogerson - April 24, 2006 09:24 AM (GMT)
The best way I've found to watch a network series , say, Invasion (which is on C4 in the UK in a 1hr slot with about 42m of actual footage), is to record it and then start watching it on "chasing playback" mode about 15m into it. One can then fast forward through all of the adverts and catch up to the ending at about the right time. Plus, you had an extra 15mins of your life spare - over 26 episodes that's 6.5 hrs.
Marty McKee - April 24, 2006 01:01 PM (GMT)
Here's Philips' response, which sounds like double talk to me. Particularly the part about people wanting to watch commercials, which has to be a lie or wishful thinking:
Philips to blogs: Let's get this straight
William S. Wilson - April 24, 2006 03:47 PM (GMT)
I think this passage from the Philips response should throw some water on the "They want to control us" fire:
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| So, we developed a system where the viewer can choose, at the beginning of a movie, to either watch the movie without ads, or watch the movie with ads. It is up to the viewer to take this decision, and up to the broadcaster to offer the various services. |
James Cheney - April 24, 2006 09:54 PM (GMT)
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| I think this passage from the Philips response should throw some water on the "They want to control us" fire: |
Perhaps modify it to "They want us to pay to be commercial free". One source reports the following:
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| The device, inserted into TV sets, also allows networks to offer live shows without commercials, depending on what the viewer prefers. Industry speculation has suggested the broadcasters could sell the commercial-free option for a small fee. |
I'm not a hundred percent sure I'm interpreting the facts and speculation correctly, however. Read and judge (and speculate further) for yourself
Globe & Mail coverage
Jeff Nelson - April 25, 2006 01:35 AM (GMT)
Yes, some people will want to watch the ads, because they won't want to pay for the commercial-free option. It's all in the way they spin it. If viewers opt for the ads, they won't be able to skip them.
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| I'd call that reaction... er, reactionary. |
Aw, c'mon, like I think there's really a chance in hell of everyone ceasing to watch network television.
Nevertheless, I'd wholeheartedly recommend it. :D
Lisa Larkin - May 2, 2006 09:18 AM (GMT)
If I could watch my favorite shows completely ad-free -- no pop-up ads, station bugs, shrunken credits, voice-overs, etc. -- I might consider paying a nominal fee, say .99 like an iTunes download. I don't think I'd go any higher than that though, and iTunes currently charges $1.99 for video downloads.