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Title: Good news/Bad news
Description: re: Argento's THIRD MOTHER


Marty Langford - November 21, 2005 07:17 PM (GMT)
Good news, it happening.

(possible) Bad news... it's being written by Adam Gierasch and Jace Anderson of TOOLBOX MURDERS, CROCODILE & the upcoming MORTUARY (all Tobe Hooper, by the way).

What is about these screenwriters that convinced Dario they could enter and expand his world?

Michael Mackenzie - November 21, 2005 07:30 PM (GMT)
What????

Do you have a source on this? I find it incredibly hard to believe this could be true, but I'm now sufficiently worried, nonetheless.

EDIT: Never mind, found it. Jeez!

Sal Ciavarello - November 21, 2005 10:39 PM (GMT)
The real good news would be if Dario just kissed and made up with Daria Nicolodi and then started working on the script together. Otherwise I say Fun Ghoul to this news.

Michael Mackenzie - November 22, 2005 10:07 AM (GMT)
Dark Dreams has released some more positive news via Alan Jones. Gierasch and Anderson will be writing the script in conjunction with Argento (whereas the Fangoria article gives the impression that they would be responsible for the whole thing). The film will be shot in Rome starting in April 2006 and Claudio Simonetti will compose the score.

William S. Wilson - November 22, 2005 05:17 PM (GMT)
Well, at least we know they are fans of Argento's work given how much the remake of TOOLBOX mirrored INFERNO at points.

William S. Wilson - November 23, 2005 06:42 PM (GMT)
Fangoria.com just posted some more news about it. Here is what the screenwriters had to say:
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“We just returned from three weeks in Rome writing the first draft of the film, based on Dario’s original story,” reports Anderson, who goes on to explain how she and Gierasch became involved with the project: “We met Dario—as fans!—while he was in Los Angeles editing his MASTERS OF HORROR episode JENIFER. After speaking with Dario, he was interested in reading one of our scripts—and after he did, he asked us if we would like to do a treatment of MATER LACHRYMARUM! His brother Claudio then asked us to come to Rome. It was intense! Dario is such a sweet man. It was wonderful!”

Mirroring Anderson’s enthusiasm, Gierasch says, “Dario is the most amazing director, period, regardless of genre.”

“So we spent our time working with Dario [on the script] in Rome,” Anderson continues. “It was important for him that we do it there. He wanted us to soak up the atmosphere, the catacombs, etc., since the film will be shot exclusively there.”

Regarding the subject matter of MATER LACHRYMARUM, Gierasch doesn’t reveal plot particulars, but does promise, “It’s fast-paced, and more violent than you can shake a stick at! This is a horror movie, plain and simple. There are a lot, and I mean a lot, of murders! It really wraps up the trilogy, but is quite different from the first two. Dario didn’t want to do the same thing again.

“I think it’s really going to be the movie that everyone is hoping for,” Gierasch concludes. “It’s a ‘wow’ kind of film, from the very first scene.”

Bob Lindstrom - November 24, 2005 06:31 AM (GMT)
Well, the article indicated that Argento wanted a better chance at US success by bring in American talent.

But the word "talent" is the problem in that sentence.

Dario, Dario, Dario. Gierasch and Anderson?

Vincent Pereira - November 25, 2005 01:18 AM (GMT)
Well, putting aside the fact that I liked THE TOOLBOX MURDERS (which as William pointed out, is CLEARLY indebted to INFERNO), there's this simple point to make:

Since when were either SUSPIRIA or INFERNO praised for their "writing" anyway? If anything, both of those flicks were praised IN SPITE OF their screenplays (especially the convoluted INFERO), and not to dismiss Daria Nicolodi's contributions, but whatever she brought to them- a knowledge of DeQuincey for example- I'm sure Dario has picked up and absorbed on his own in the years since, and since it was also reported not so long ago that his THIRD MOTHER treatment was some 50-pages long (VERY long for a "treatment), I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that the TOOLBOX guys major contributions will be to smooth the English dialogue and some plot points to make it more coherent, something both SUSPIRIA and especially INFERNO more than a little lacked.

Vincent

Marty Langford - November 28, 2005 04:11 PM (GMT)
Looks like the screenwriters are busy.

http://www.fangoria.com/news_article.php?id=5172

Though, I know a guy that knows a guy... and Dick Gordon says this news is premature.

Richard Harland Smith - November 28, 2005 07:25 PM (GMT)
That's Hollywood's lack of imagination for you... everybody wants the people everybody else has. I know from experience... I only raked Tobe Hooper's yard twice and now Steven Spielberg is calling every weekend. C'mon, there are other guys!

William S. Wilson - October 12, 2006 10:16 PM (GMT)
Fangoria reports the film starts rolling at the end of this month. Plus a little tidbit about Udo Kier being cast!
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Fango just spoke with prolific genre scripter Adam (TOOLBOX MURDERS) Gierasch, who reveals that he and partner Jace Anderson are preparing to wing their way over to Rome for the filming of Dario Argento’s MOTHER OF TEARS, which they wrote with the Italian horror maestro (pictured). “It starts shooting in late October,” Gierasch tells us, “and I’m so excited about it, I can’t speak. It’s going to be everything everyone wants it to be. It’s very, very Dario. It’s a fairly big movie, taking place in a number of different locations, and it has a bunch of very scary bad guys in it. And it’s easily going to be one of his bloodiest movies; there are scenes that are just ridiculously gruesome. Working with Dario has been fantastic; he’s so creative and so precise, and he’s very excited about the project too.”

MOTHER OF TEARS, the third in the Argento trilogy begun by SUSPIRIA and INFERNO, will lens in Rome and Turin, with a cast including a number of familiar faces for the director’s fans: Daria Nicolodi, their daughter Asia Argento and SUSPIRIA’s Udo Kier, “who plays a priest/exorcist,” according to Gierasch.

Tim Lucas - October 13, 2006 12:29 AM (GMT)
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and SUSPIRIA’s Udo Kier, “who plays a priest/exorcist,” according to Gierasch


D-U-M-B. He should be playing the same character he played in SUSPIRIA. Do they imagine that the audience for this picture won't remember him?

Ignorance, like magic, dot dot dot.

William S. Wilson - October 13, 2006 01:08 AM (GMT)
Well, if Joe Don Baker can play both a good guy and bad guy in the Bond series...

Anthony Thorne - October 13, 2006 02:00 AM (GMT)
Maybe the Udo Kier character from SUSPIRIA has changed his vocation sometime over the last 30 years. Actually, if they were on the ball they should probably dig Fulvio whatsisname out from retirement to drive another cab in the rain as well.

Vincent Pereira - October 13, 2006 03:27 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Tim Lucas @ Oct 12 2006, 06:29 PM)

D-U-M-B. He should be playing the same character he played in SUSPIRIA. Do they imagine that the audience for this picture won't remember him?

Ignorance, like magic, dot dot dot.

Udo looks completely different these days, not to mention, if he was cast as the "same character" they'd have to dub him with he same prolific vocal dubber who dubbed him in SUSPIRIA. Being cast nearly 30 years later and using his own voice, I doubt most viewers will even know it's the same guy, so I have to say I disagree with you.

Vincent

Michael Mackenzie - October 13, 2006 09:15 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Tim Lucas @ Oct 13 2006, 01:29 AM)
D-U-M-B. He should be playing the same character he played in SUSPIRIA. Do they imagine that the audience for this picture won't remember him?

Ignorance, like magic, dot dot dot.

As dumb as Alida Valli playing different characters in Suspiria and Inferno? ;)

Steve Guariento - October 13, 2006 10:14 AM (GMT)
Looks like Udo's little self-plug at the end of Anchor Bay's SUSPIRIA doc did the trick, then. :P

Good news. Gives a skewed sense of continuity to the trilogy. Is Fulvio Mingozzi still around for taxi-driving duties? That's a given, surely.

John W McKelvey - October 13, 2006 10:26 AM (GMT)
If you think that's bad... Back in the 60's, this director named Stanley Kubrick cast a guy named Peter Sellers as the President of the United States in his movie Dr. Strangelove... and then he went ahead and cast him as the Captain... in the same movie! I mean, didn't anyone notice? ...THEN he cast him AGAIN as the doctor? Ahh, the ignorance!!!

hehe Just playin' ;)

Mark Tinta - October 14, 2006 05:33 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Anthony Thorne @ Oct 13 2006, 02:00 AM)
Actually, if they were on the ball they should probably dig Fulvio whatsisname out from retirement to drive another cab in the rain as well.

If Fulvio Mingozzi is alive and well, then he better be in this!

Pay him whatever he wants. He MUST drive a cab in the new film!!!!

William D'Annucci - October 14, 2006 05:29 PM (GMT)
Most films make the D.U.M.B. mistake of not casting Udo Kier. :P

Tim Lucas - October 14, 2006 09:34 PM (GMT)
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As dumb as Alida Valli playing different characters in Suspiria and Inferno?


That one I could buy, because it strikes a chord of continuity within the coven. (I do wish that Valli had dubbed her own voice in INFERNO, however.) The casting of Fulvio Mingozzi as the cabbie who takes people to the various headquarters, ditto.

William S. Wilson - October 14, 2006 10:31 PM (GMT)
Does anyone know if the cabbie appears in the script? Also, does anyone possibly have the ear of Argento to let him know the fans demand it?

Domenick Fraumeni - October 14, 2006 11:18 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Tim Lucas @ Oct 14 2006, 04:34 PM)

That one I could buy, because it strikes a chord of continuity within the coven. (I do wish that Valli had dubbed her own voice in INFERNO, however.) The casting of Fulvio Mingozzi as the cabbie who takes people to the various headquarters, ditto.

Yes, but couldn't it be the same with Udo Kier's new character. Much as Valli represented two characters, or maybe aspects, of the coven, Kier could represent two aspects of the opposing side*. I'm pretty sure he's being cast in order to create some ties with SUSPIRIA.

And oh yes. Please,someone get a hold of Mingozzi and put him in the driver's seat!















Even though Dr.Mandel's desription of witches in SUSPIRIA was waaay off the mark and rather deragotory. Unless he deliberately meant "black" witches, which is what we are dealing with, here.




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