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Doran Gaston - January 15, 2011 01:12 AM (GMT)
Very interesting...

RIDLEY SCOTT’S ALIEN PREQUEL TURNS INTO PROMETHEUS

http://www.chud.com/30658/ridley-scotts-al..._medium=twitter

William S. Wilson - January 15, 2011 05:59 PM (GMT)
I actually find this really good news. The idea of Scott returning to the ALIEN series just seemed bad after the last decade of AVP madness. So the fact that it has morphed into an original project makes me happy.

William S. Wilson - November 23, 2011 03:29 PM (GMT)
Here are some scans of the first official stills for this:

http://io9.com/5862143/first-images-from-r...alien-mythology

Wade Sowers - November 23, 2011 07:33 PM (GMT)
Is it just me or does this look like the actor's heads pasted on spacesuits? The one with Charlize Theron does look like an actual still from a movie. The big stone head certainly looks like one of those.

William S. Wilson - November 27, 2011 03:22 PM (GMT)
If you enjoy watching handheld "leaked" trailer footage, the PROMETHEUS trailer can be seen here:

http://www.avpgalaxy.net/2011/11/26/exclus...railer-footage/

Craig Blamer - November 27, 2011 04:04 PM (GMT)
"...a team of explorers discover a clue to the origins of mankind on Earth,"

So, Scott is tipping his hat again to Planet of the Vampires?

William S. Wilson - December 22, 2011 06:53 PM (GMT)
Here is the trailer in a finally watchable format.

http://io9.com/5870445/watch-the-first-tra...-prometheus-now

William D'Annucci - December 22, 2011 11:38 PM (GMT)
I hate to be "that guy" but this just looks like a big fancy expensive remake of Alien, copying or referencing specific images and shots. Hopefully, the finished film is much more than that.

It's also annoying how they seem to be playing a variation of the same promotional game that was done with The (P)re-Thing this year. We kept hearing how Prometheus was not really going to be an Alien prequel, but all signs are pointing to some kind of prequel/remake hybrid.

Martin Brooks - December 23, 2011 12:42 PM (GMT)
Personally I thought the trailer mad the film look like it could be fantastic!

William S. Wilson - December 23, 2011 05:31 PM (GMT)
Some super observant ALIEN fans noticed humanoid standing on the Space Jockey set in the trailer and you can see it here:

http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=41353.0

John W McKelvey - December 24, 2011 03:50 AM (GMT)
I've seen all four Aliens movies several times, but uh... who/what's the space jockey?

William S. Wilson - December 24, 2011 04:36 AM (GMT)
That is the term (for better or worse) that has been attached to the huge, fossilized creature the human crew finds in the alien ship in the first ALIEN.

William S. Wilson - March 17, 2012 04:07 PM (GMT)
Here is the second PROMETHEUS trailer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wY4HE55idzA

William S. Wilson - March 18, 2012 02:34 PM (GMT)
And a third, spoiler plot heavy trailer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDuzatURr-Y

Sheldon Warnock - May 31, 2012 12:17 AM (GMT)

Jeff McKay - June 8, 2012 09:58 PM (GMT)
SPOILER!!!!







I thought this was a big dud, outside of the breathtaking visuals and two or three effective sequences. The script is laughable and is full of nonsensical actions (for example, why does Fassbinder infect the lead doctor?) and just plods along for the most part. The score is also generic and inappropriate, sounding like bland patriotic music when there's just a regular dialog conversation going on. You do get a brief reprise of the original ALIEN score in a sequence early on with Guy Pearce, though.

Worst of all, it could take me years to try to erase the memory of the backstory and personification of the space jockey. I'll never watch ALIEN again without thinking of this nonsense now. Sometimes it's better to leave things a mystery.

Vincent Pereira - June 9, 2012 01:59 AM (GMT)
Saw this last night via a midnight screening and really liked it a whole lot. I didn't find it to be "plodding" at all, certainly no more "plodding" than the original film. In terms of pacing, I was happy to see a return to the slow-burn philosophy of the original. I'm looking forward to seeing this again, as well as the inevitable follow-up which I'm sure will fill in some of the holes that I have no doubt were intentionally left open (i.e., why *SPOILERS!!!*David infects Shaw's husband*END SPOILERS!!!*).

Vincent


Shawn Garrett - June 9, 2012 03:57 AM (GMT)
I thought it was interesting and enjoyable, but nothing amazing. Funny, the friend is was with mentioned the very same plot hole, but I thought it was just an illustration of how dangerous it was to have a thing like David around, driven by curiosity but with no temperance of human emotions like fear leading to caution. It didn't care about anyone but Liz Shaw... well, almost no one.

I got a real METAL HURLANT vibe off the one later character. Actually a real HEAVY METAL vibe about the whole thing - philosophizing in alien vistas and then sudden violence.

A fun night at the movies. I didn't find the music "patriotic" myself, it seems almost like burnished, cut-down, old-school "Romantic Drama" music.

And, yes, best secret remake of PLANET OF THE VAMPIRES ever!

Will a stealth prequel to LIFEFORCE be in the works? Maybe they could do it as a big-scale IT! THE TERROR FROM BEYOND SPACE remake and complete the circle....

Oh, wait, no, QUEEN OF BLOOD.....

Domenick Fraumeni - June 9, 2012 04:08 PM (GMT)
This is got to be the most frustrating film I've seen this year. The editing is VERY choppy. I'm all for a quick paced film, but this goes from A to B to E, in it's story. And there's a few characters who look like they have no business being there. WTH is with a geologist who looks, talks, and acts like he just got out of prison? After that wonderful opening, that bit brought the whole story down a notch. And a lead, very bland, scientist who looks, talks, and acts like a college freshman? I kept thinking Shaw's the real lead here, and this dude just hitched along because he's her boyfriend. Ugh. Back to the editing, there's a major scene, that's pretty horrifying, but then no followup. No reaction. Nada. And where does the beginning tie into anything? Yeah, I can connect the dots on my own, but I shouldn't have to. The writer, director, and editor are supposed to furnish me with enough information to do so.

A beautiful film with stunning imagery and science that's very plausible. And a great score that matches the visuals. It's been a bad year for movie scores, but PROMETHEUS stands out, in that regard. And the best 3d, so far, of the year. The depth is fantastic, with a stunning opening shot in Nova Scotia that made me want to book a ticket right away. The starfields are mesmerizing.

There are some great ideas and a decent connection to the events of ALIEN. But just when the moment comes when the pieces are supposed to fall in place for it all to work, it all comes apart, with an ending that requires everyone to do some stupid things. I came out, very aggravated, hoping that an extended cut is forthcoming on Blu Ray that will maybe balance things out better.

Mike Thomas - June 9, 2012 08:06 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Vincent Pereira @ Jun 8 2012, 07:59 PM)
(i.e., why *SPOILERS!!!*David infects Shaw's husband*END SPOILERS!!!*).

SPOILERS:
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My take on this was that the old man was pressuring David to come up with some results testing the goo on a human subject.

Regarding why test Shaw's husband, David was testing him by asking him "how far he'd go...", and I guess he got the answer he was looking for.

I found the movie to be silly and boring, with characters doing stupid things over and over again.

William S. Wilson - June 9, 2012 10:38 PM (GMT)
Saw it today and enjoyed it.

One thing though is Dan Ackroyd must have been pissed when he saw their Weyland make up!

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Domenick Fraumeni - June 10, 2012 01:28 AM (GMT)
The more I think on it, the more I'd like to try out an experiment when this hits home video. Which is to watch it without dialogue. I'll bet that just visually, one could get the story. or at least the parts that are important. It's that strong,visually, and the music good enough to possibly sustain such an experiment.

Chester Berne - June 10, 2012 02:43 PM (GMT)
Hopefully, I'm not giving too much away (and other reviewers have already given this plot point), but the opening sequence, while being great theater, made no sense at all. FIVE MILLION YEARS TO EARTH did the same thing and made scientific sense.

But over all I liked it very much, just not as much as the first one.

Scott Crossland - June 10, 2012 07:51 PM (GMT)
I was hugely disappointed by this and that could have been driven by my expectations being driven through the roof by the fact that Ridley Scott had returned to the franchise that he started.
It was visually stunning but there were too many parts of the plot making me rub my eyes in disbelief.

*****SPOILERS*****

I'm surprised that nobody has mentioned the ludicrous sequence during which Dr. Shaw operates on herself in that surgery machine (which was presented as a plot device in the most ham fisted fashion). She gets sliced open and stapled shut and then proceeds to run around the ship occasionally gasping and clutching her stomach.

I also agree with the criticism of the editing. What was going on in that shoot out?

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Idris Elba continues to impress me though.

Dave Bohnert - June 10, 2012 08:21 PM (GMT)
Saw this today. Liked it overall, but would've liked it a lot better if it was a stand alone film not related to the Alien series. I can understand the argument that is kind of is or kind of isn't a prequel, but they should have just decided it all together. If it's not a prequel then change the design of the "engineers". I would've like that a lot better. The Space Jockey was really such a minor part of the original film I really don't see the need to explain it's origin. Alien works just fine the way it is, it doesn't need any more in depth thinking about who this guy was, where he was going..and really after Prometheus how much more do we really know about the Space Jockey form Alien? Not much, other than what he looked like without the helmet. Just some sloppy writing which made sense when I heard the screenwriter worked on Lost, which had some of the stupidest writing I had ever seen in terms of storylines. Looked beautiful. And probably the best 3D I've seen. Nothing blurry, nothing hitting you over the head, just nice touches here and there.

Alan Maxwell - June 10, 2012 09:16 PM (GMT)
Caught it this afternoon and while I didn't hate it by any means - my expectations perhaps being tempered by the fact that I'm not a huge fan of Scott or the original movie - I think to say it's flawed may even be generous. If I had to describe the film in one word, I would have to settle for silly. I mean, it's really, really daft.

It's an interesting idea and there are some intriguing developments, and yes, the special effects are among the best I've seen in quite a while but quite apart from the unanswered questions and unclear events, the underdeveloped characters and redundant dialogue (seriously, about 95% of what little speech came out of Kate Dickie's mouth could have been dropped without any impact), the one thing that stuck with me when I left was that while the film might take itself seriously I couldn't.

SPOILERS!

I could suspend disbelief for things like the convenience of having an android figure out an alien spaceship and that spaceship just happening to record everything that happened in 3D holography, but yes, I too found it a little too hard to swallow the whole surgery thing, particularly having your stomach cut open, stapled shut and then being able to run around like you'd just put a plaster over it. Reanimating a 2000-year-old severed head was a pretty neat trick too.

William S. Wilson - June 10, 2012 10:41 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Dave Bohnert @ Jun 10 2012, 02:21 PM)
and really after Prometheus how much more do we really know about the Space Jockey form Alien?  Not much, other than what he looked like without the helmet.

Are you kidding? We now know he can play the flute! ;-)

Alan Maxwell - June 10, 2012 10:55 PM (GMT)
One other thing that occurred to me. Given the fuss raised over the dwarves in the latest Snow White film:

Snow white piece from The Guardian

...surely there must surely be grounds for geriatric actors to start stamping their feet over the pointless casting of Guy Pearce?

Chester Berne - June 10, 2012 11:13 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Alan Maxwell @ Jun 10 2012, 04:55 PM)
One other thing that occurred to me. Given the fuss raised over the dwarves in the latest Snow White film:

Snow white piece from The Guardian

...surely there must surely be grounds for geriatric actors to start stamping their feet over the pointless casting of Guy Pearce?

I had not heard this, but they should raise a fuss. Peter Dinklage won an Emmy for his work in GAME OF THRONES last season and did an even better job this season!

Dave Bohnert - June 11, 2012 02:58 AM (GMT)
Yeah, the more I think about it, the more massive plot holes I find. Too bad, it had some real promise but falls short with really sloppy writing. It's why I'm not a huge fan of Scott's, so many of his films are like that....

William D'Annucci - June 11, 2012 07:08 PM (GMT)
SPOILERS!
(and apologies to Gilbert and Sullivan)

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I am the very model of a Ridley Scott protagonist,
I boss around the men from the deck of the Prometheus,
My name is Meredith and my rank is merely fatuous,
My push-ups are soggy, pissy and downright scandalous,
My agenda with the engineers is viewed as quite insidious,
And my feelings on Guy Pearce tend to border on the murderous,
My captain plays accordions as a spicy sexy stimulus,
And my running from the crashing ship displays my utter hopelessness!
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Keith Aiken - June 14, 2012 07:33 PM (GMT)
SciFi Japan has posted the official production notes for PROMETHEUS...

http://www.scifijapan.com/articles/2012/06...oduction-notes/

Marty McKee - June 15, 2012 12:13 AM (GMT)
John Charles and I (and my friend Matt Toler) discussed PROMETHEUS for an hour on our Demolition Men podcast, so go there to find out what we have to say on the film. Suffice to say, the more time I have to think about the film, the dumber it gets.

The Demolition Men discuss PROMETHEUS

Mike Thomas - June 15, 2012 02:31 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Alan Maxwell @ Jun 10 2012, 04:55 PM)
...surely there must surely be grounds for geriatric actors to start stamping their feet over the pointless casting of Guy Pearce?

They had shot scenes with Pearce as a younger man, but cut them from the movie, while using them in the film's "viral" campaign.

Mike Thomas - June 15, 2012 02:35 PM (GMT)

Chester Berne - June 16, 2012 05:49 PM (GMT)
Took a 73% drop from last Friday. Ouch!

Lenny Moore - June 18, 2012 02:44 AM (GMT)

Chris Stangl - June 19, 2012 08:45 PM (GMT)
John Kenneth Muir on PROMETHEUS, focusing on: Creators and offspring, David The Robot and T.E. Lawrence and the ALIEN legacy.

The subtext that Muir articulates here is carefully woven through PROMETHEUS, and he illuminates it beautifully (he is one of our finest genre critics). Of the myriad complaints being passed around about the story, maybe half (I arrived at this statistic through PROMETHEUS-style disregard for scientific method) are truly unimportant nitpicks, plot points left deliberately ambiguous and/or subtleties that may require an attentive audience. Problem is, the film is still riddled with plot holes, characterizations that are both confused and paper-thin, unmotivated motivations, and atrocious scientific errors of the flunked-junior-high-biology variety. Somehow, the surface is scattershot nonsense, while the iceberg below the waterline has been painstakingly sculpted.

Lisa Larkin - July 3, 2012 05:18 AM (GMT)
In case you missed it, THE SOUP did a hilarious spoof of the "Happy Birthday David" viral video promoting PROMETHEUS:

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Watch-Joel-...Soup-31297.html

:lol:

[Still can't believe there's a show called HILLBILLY HAND FISHING.]

Brian Camp - July 12, 2012 03:52 PM (GMT)
Not sure which was the best thread to post these links in, but I thought PROMETHEUS was the most thematically appropriate.

Apparently, a CIA agent has revealed what many of us have long known to be true about Roswell:

http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/07/11/roswel...rmer-cia-agent/

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/08/r..._ref=weird-news

Time picked it up, but will The New York Times? Only after someone high up comes out and discredits the guy, I'm sure.




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