Title: NIGHTBREED fans, Unite! (Video to follow)
Description: NIGHTBREED restoration still possible
Domenick Fraumeni - June 4, 2009 02:30 PM (GMT)
To the "Tribes Of The Moon" and all friends of:
Well, the news broke out at Revelations, the official Clive Barker site, that Mark Miller has gotten in touch with Fox, and the word is that yes, the missing 25 minutes is still there, and as far as Fox sees it, a rerelease isn't worth it. Not even an upgrade to Blue Ray. Ouch, indeed.
But...hope is not lost. This means that it's up to us, the fans, to make it known that we WANT a restored NIGHTBREED. That, and oh I'm beginning to dislike this term these days, the NIGHTBREED "Franchise" is something we want to come back and will support, big time. I just know that in the U.S. alone, there has to be enough fans who would love to see this, let alone the rest of the world.
Below are links to Sarah and Phil's, who run Revelations, email, and to their twitter page as well as another new clip from behind the scenes from NIGHTBREED. If you know anyone else who wants to see one of the greatest monster movies ever made restored to it's original intentions, pass this along. E MailTwitterBehind The Scenes Clip
Tom Kessler - June 4, 2009 02:48 PM (GMT)
If the studio (or studios) holding the purse strings on this one think that it's not worth it then why not sell the rights and the material to someone who does?
I'm not sure why Seraphim doesn't just make an offer and procure the elements. Yes, I know that they seem to struggle to get any announced project off the ground (no one was more surprised than I to see MIDNIGHT MEAT TRAIN actually get made), but surely Anchor Bay has enough good will towards Clive (how many HELLRAISER rereleases have we seen?) that they'd give this thing a whirl.
Perhaps Clive could restore it in George Lucas fashion and spiff up a few of the seamier visuals with some budget rate CG.
Domenick Fraumeni - June 4, 2009 02:58 PM (GMT)
Well, BOOK OF BLOOD is done, and others are going into pre-production.
That would be great, as I'd love to see the whole thing revived, starting with a restored NIGHTBREED. I always had this idea of a fully restored, nationwide theatrical rerelease, followed by a SE DVD and then launching into a followup movie.
William S. Wilson - June 4, 2009 03:29 PM (GMT)
|QUOTE (Tom Kessler @ Jun 4 2009, 08:48 AM)|
| I'm not sure why Seraphim doesn't just make an offer and procure the elements. |
Clive Barker spending his own money? Bwhahahahahahaha!
Tom Kessler - June 4, 2009 04:16 PM (GMT)
|QUOTE (William S. Wilson @ Jun 4 2009, 03:29 PM)|
| Clive Barker spending his own money? Bwhahahahahahaha! |
I know, I know. I was trying not to go there.
If there's anything I learned between my obsessive Barker fanboy years throughout the '90s and now, it's that he would better serve his legacy by staying home to work on his paintings and novels. And you know what? I think he would probably agree with that.
My real suggestion is that he should try sweet talking Anchor Bay into doing this, but that could just as easily end in burned bridges and bad blood. I'm sure that one of the reasons that HELLRAISER re-releases are so attractive is that no one really has to deal with Barker or Seraphim.
All cynicism aside, I hope that this NIGHTBREED thing really happens. I love that movie way more than I probably should. It's messy, silly (downright goofy actually) and almost sweetly naive. Barker made it with far more enthusiasm than filmmaking know-how and a slicker remake would never be able to capture that.
William S. Wilson - June 4, 2009 09:34 PM (GMT)
|QUOTE (Tom Kessler @ Jun 4 2009, 10:16 AM)|
| My real suggestion is that he should try sweet talking Anchor Bay into doing this |
It is bizarre because 20th Century Fox did license Anchor Bay Alex Winter & Tom Stern's FREAKED for a super deluxe edition. I could guarantee NIGHTBREED would probably sell more than that.
John Charles - June 4, 2009 09:38 PM (GMT)
Did I miss something? NIGHTBREED was produced independently by Morgan Creek. The deleted footage might be sitting at Fox, but they only ever had theatrical rights to the movie. Warner released it on DVD (this and some other Morgan Creek titles, like THE EXORCIST III, are also over at Warner now).
John W McKelvey - June 8, 2009 03:12 AM (GMT)
I never bought the regular Nightbreed disc, but I'd buy a restored Barker-approved version special edition.
Domenick Fraumeni - June 11, 2009 12:20 PM (GMT)
I'm trying to find out just where DVD rights lie right now. I thought it was with Warner's as well, which would be good as they would be much more open maybe to a restored, SE release. But the material itself is with Fox, so there is that.
At Revelations, the 145 minute cut, and this is before the added reshoots with David Croneneberg's Deckard character, has been seen. Over 44 minutes of deleted scenes.http://clivebarker.info/morenightbreed.html
Marc Edward Heuck - June 12, 2009 12:05 AM (GMT)
|QUOTE (Domenick Fraumeni @ Jun 11 2009, 06:20 AM)|
| I'm trying to find out just where DVD rights lie right now. I thought it was with Warner's as well, which would be good as they would be much more open maybe to a restored, SE release. But the material itself is with Fox, so there is that.|
At Revelations, the 145 minute cut, and this is before the added reshoots with David Croneneberg's Deckard character, has been seen. Over 44 minutes of deleted scenes.
It's a three way dance. Morgan Creek owns the copyright. They made an overall deal with WB for their back catalog, so it would be up to the two of them to decide to make a Director's Cut DVD. However, since Fox has been storing these materials all these years, they would likely want some compensation for holding onto the footage and pulling it out of the vault.
What may complicate matters is that Morgan Creek no longer works with WB - their current distribution and home video arrangement is with Universal, though this is only for newer movies, not the old stuff. So WB and MC may not be interested in working together on anything since they essentially left the lot. Though I suppose it didn't stop WB and Regency from collaborating on new DVDs of NATURAL BORN KILLERS and L.A. CONFIDENTIAL, despite the fact Regency is now based at Fox.
Tom Kessler - June 12, 2009 02:19 AM (GMT)
145 minute workprint!?
You know? I sit back and vicariously get excited by the HALLOWEEN and TEXAS CHAINSAW enthusiasts on this board, especially the proactive archivists and saviors of these films, but a complete NIGHTBREED would be the biggest holy grail for me since I found a pre-home-video bootleg of THE BLACK CAULDRON at a fan show back in the mid '90s. I would put forth a lot of gratitude to even just view that vhs quality workprint!
Man, this seems so close and yet so far away. I wouldn't even mind a release akin to Anchor Bay's original two-disc set of MANHUNTER with the second disc containing a degraded vhs master of the workprint and a newly remastered version of the theatrical cut. Of course, we shouldn't have to settle for that. Not when the elements are clearly available for a proper restoration.
But I also know how the math can be. Yes, NIGHTBREED has more than a couple of fans, but I'd be willing to be that the lot of us couldn't fiscally justify such a project even if we each paid to buy it twice.
William S. Wilson - February 5, 2010 02:44 AM (GMT)
For anyone interested, the 145 minute cut will have its first public screening at the Horror Hound weekend on March 27.http://www.shocktillyoudrop.com/news/topnews.php?id=13981
I hope to hell some DVD company is all over this.
Craig Blamer - February 5, 2010 03:03 AM (GMT)
I liked the plaintive voice in the comments section: "It's in Indiana..."
All the cool conventions seem to be on the other side of the 'States. And then up into Canada. But at least it's not snowing right now.
John W McKelvey - February 5, 2010 03:44 AM (GMT)
|I hope to hell some DVD company is all over this. |
Seriously! They better hurry up while there's still a market for DVDs.
Domenick Fraumeni - February 6, 2010 05:47 PM (GMT)
William S. Wilson - April 15, 2010 05:10 PM (GMT)
Here is an update on how things stand on this ever hitting DVD:http://fangoria.com/index.php?option=com_c...icles&Itemid=56
Tom Kessler - April 15, 2010 05:37 PM (GMT)
Did anyone here manage to catch the HorrorHound screening?
I'm very, very keen to learn specific details of the workprint.
William S. Wilson - April 15, 2010 05:49 PM (GMT)
William S. Wilson - February 19, 2012 04:25 PM (GMT)
According to Dread Central, a newer director's cut version culled from 3 different workprints will screen in North Carolina next month at the Mad Monster Party convention.http://www.dreadcentral.com/news/52620/nig...arty-convention
|Join Mad Monster Party to champion the cause and be a part of the growing movement to give the director's cut of this beloved film its much deserved special edition DVD/Blu-ray release. We're doing our part by sharing this cut and conducting panels which will explain the great opportunities fans will have to offer their support. Many thanks to Nightbreed distributor and owner Morgan Creek for giving us their blessing to show the film. They will be watching, with interest, for audience and fan reaction so let's show them how much we want this to happen.|
Once again, THIS VERSION HAS NEVER BEEN SEEN BEFORE. Pulling from three separate cuts of the film, and working closely with Nightbreed's original director of photography Robin Vidgeon, Clive Barker's team at Seraphim Films has assembled a composite that will be the most complete version of the film that has ever been shown.
Ian McDowell - February 20, 2012 04:19 AM (GMT)
I'm looking forward to that convention. Anne Bobby, NIGHTBREED's female lead, is a friend of mine, and she told me that she expects to see my ass at the con "or else." I believe this is the first Monster Con that Anne has ever been a featured guest (she's attended some World Fantasy conventions and the like, but more because she and her sister Kate are friends of Neil Gaiman, at whose house I first met them back in the 90s).
As I've mentioned elsewhere, Anne has promised to tell me a "great story" about the time she was on Broadway with the late Nicol Williamson in Stoppard's THE REAL THING. Apparently, it was a much happier experience than was usual for Williamson's fellow actors.
Marc McCloud - February 20, 2012 11:39 PM (GMT)
Wow! I'm in Asheville, so this is definitely doable...
William S. Wilson - June 16, 2012 11:44 PM (GMT)
A brand new review of the two and a half hour (!) Cabal Cut of NIGHTBREED:http://www.dreadcentral.com/reviews/nightb...-cabal-cut-2012
William S. Wilson - July 20, 2013 02:38 AM (GMT)
Scream Factory announced at Comic Con today that they will be releasing NIGHTBREED: THE CABAL CUT.http://www.shocktillyoudrop.com/news/17512...nct-13-and-more
Terry Barhorst, Jr. - July 20, 2013 09:34 PM (GMT)
Wowsers. Makes you think that there might still be hope for a director's cut of THE KEEP and that I'll live to see both versions of TWICE UPON A TIME released. Looking forward to getting my hands on this puppy.
Bill Picard - November 1, 2013 02:20 AM (GMT)
New York area fans, take note this has its NYC premiere this Saturday night at Lincoln Center:http://www.filmlinc.com/films/on-sale/nigh...d-the-cabal-cut
Bob Lindstrom - November 2, 2013 07:29 PM (GMT)
Any Mobians going to see this tonight?
Tom Kessler - November 3, 2013 02:45 PM (GMT)
The blurb in the filmlinc link mentions that the new footage is still VHS quality. This brings up a question I've been wondering about since the Scream Factory blu ray was announced: Will there be work done to better integrate the VHS material (which would, to say the least, take a whole lot of digital tinkering) or is "THE CABAL CUT" going to always more or less going to look like it does now?
I'm prepared for the latter, but I wonder if there's anything that can actually be done to at least give it the illusion of being restored (since there's really only so much you can do with material taken from second generation VHS sources).