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Jessicas guy - June 21, 2005 06:39 AM (GMT)
Hey people! How you doing? My name is Dave and I was jusrt checking out this site since logans run is one of my favorite
scii fi flciks of all time. Along with old dystopian sci like soylent green, farenheit 451 and the omega man.
I picked Jessicas guy for my screename beacuse she was cool and laid back, smart and more open then all the
other ding dongs in the city. I would like to take her out for coffee! Mm wonder if she'll give me a break. Buy her a frozen box lattee!

Anyway maybe some people can help me with a few things I wasn't sure about in the movie. First off do you think Jess was really
going to lead logan to be murdered? She said she needed to talk with him when they stopped. I thought she was going to get him away from there beacuse she knew they would attack. I think she liked him even then
I just got that feeling she didn't want to see him mudered. Hell she didn't have to go with him to the cubs place so why did she go. I think she would have tried to get him away as fast as she could

Next is the old man. I think they should have had more then him in the ruined city. Why not have a whole commune family living there
The old man did say he remembered seeing other people pass through when he was growing up so why not have more staying there
Also his parents must have been around before the war happend. They were married husband and wife so why didn't they get to live in the domed city?
What some people got live in the dome and others didn't. My point is that there shoudl have been more then just the old man living there.
Farms set up with people living off the land. Just didn't make sense he was all alone.

And finally at then end how did all the young people get to the top of the city so damn fast! Look at how long it took Logan and my girl Jess to get out!
They had to go through hell and yet everyone else just magically appeared at the top no problem! I was a little annoyed with that
What they should have done was something like the poles holding up the domes suddently fall and rip into the top so people can climb up to the outside-
kind of like the xmas tree in the posiden adventure! Hey maybe I should redo the movie! Il'l make box more mean and diabolical! Michael and Jenny
can come back as the old couple complete with family at the Washington ruins-hence my new idea about more outisde people

Hey if anyone has good answers or replys to what I was discussed please write back and I will check them when I can.
This stuff was minor I really dug Logans Run if for no other reason beacuse Jess ruled! A futuristic non conformist! She did her own thing.
She wasn't like the other shallow no brainers of the city! Now I just have to find a way to get her to meet me at Borders!
Hey take care and thanks for reading my message. Peace Dave

Logan5 - June 21, 2005 09:14 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Jessicas guy @ Jun 21 2005, 06:39 AM)
First off do you think Jess was really
going to lead logan to be murdered? She said she needed to talk with him when they stopped. I thought she was going to get him away from there beacuse she knew they would attack. I think she liked him even then
I just got that feeling she didn't want to see him mudered. Hell she didn't have to go with him to the cubs place so why did she go. I think she would have tried to get him away as fast as she could


Greetings Jessicas guy!

I'll post some thoughts to your Jessica topic here...

I think that at first, Jessica wasn't sure about Logan and that's why she ran to her friends to see what they thought. Obviously, they were skeptical, since he's a Sandman and from what we know - NO Sandman ever ran before. They all thought it was a plot to infiltrate the Runner movement (which it actually started out being), and they decided then that he had to be killed. Even sitting around the table with her friends, you could see that she felt uneasy to what she started and what they asked her to do.

As you may recall later in the film - when Logan and Jessica meet up with the Undergroun Runners, and are being interrogated by them - Jessica mentions that they must help any runner who asks for help, regardless if they are a Sandman, or they would be just like them - deciding who lives and who dies.

I think that Jessica realized what she did was wrong and when she says to Logan, "Logan, we need to talk..." she wanted to make absolutely sure that Logan was indeed running because killing him would make her no different than the Sandmen. She realized at that point she couldn't go through with it, and then joins him on his mission to Cathedral.

I think she finally realizes that he really does want to run when she sees him letting the runner go in Cathedral. It is then that she starts trusting him further and realizes that she's slowly falling in love with him.

Miles - June 23, 2005 08:28 PM (GMT)
Hi, just stumbled upon this site after catching the movie for the first time on TCM the other night. I am too young to have seen it back in the day, but without being able to describe what has gotten to me I can't get it out of my mind.

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Next is the old man. I think they should have had more then him in the ruined city. Why not have a whole commune family living there The old man did say he remembered seeing other people pass through when he was growing up so why not have more staying there Also his parents must have been around before the war happend. They were married husband and wife so why didn't they get to live in the domed city? What some people got live in the dome and others didn't. My point is that there shoudl have been more then just the old man living there.
Farms set up with people living off the land. Just didn't make sense he was all alone.


I didn't remember him discussing seeing other people, I thought he wasn't sure. Anyways, my idea on this was that several generations ago, a couple just like Logan and Jessica escaped and found that place. Like Jessica had wanted with Logan, this couple stayed there, had a child together, and eventually died. To me it showed exactly why Logan was determined to go back, he didn't want their children to be alone in this outside world, possibly never seeing another person.

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And finally at then end how did all the young people get to the top of the city so damn fast! Look at how long it took Logan and my girl Jess to get out!
They had to go through hell and yet everyone else just magically appeared at the top no problem! I was a little annoyed with that What they should have done was something like the poles holding up the domes suddently fall and rip into the top so people can climb up to the outside-kind of like the xmas tree in the posiden adventure! Hey maybe I should redo the movie! Il'l make box more mean and diabolical! Michael and Jennycan come back as the old couple complete with family at the Washington ruins-hence my new idea about more outisde people


Here I figure when they escaped they had to get through the underground area and past Sandmen and such. When Logan destroyed the computer the dome began to fall apart, so you figure new exits were created to the outside and with their world crashing in around them they had no choice but to leave the dome. As I understand though, Box's inadequacies might be due to the differences between book and movie. Wouldn't know though, only saw the movie just this once. Loved it and can't get it out of my mind.

The Running Man - June 24, 2005 11:54 AM (GMT)
I myself have always interpreted the scene with the old man as an indiction that there were other people on the surface. It is symbolic of the world that still exists outside. I don't think its nessassary to show them, I beleive you can just assume that they are there, even if the old man had never seen them. Alot of what we see in the movie is left up to the veiwer to draw our own conclusion. The scene with the people leaving the Dome City is also symbolic. I don't think its important to elaborate on there method of exit, rather just to see it for what it is....To myself it represent a kind of rebirth, or an awakening. The act of rising above the city to finnaly emerge to the world outside represents freedom and enlightenment. Much of the problems that plagued the Dome city are present in our society today...Big Government...nuclear threat...reliance on computer technology...Compliance or nessesity to comform obediantly to the standards society has set for us. The exit is unimportant...the signifigance is what matters.... :rolleyes:

octopusmagnificens - February 19, 2006 12:49 PM (GMT)
Hi! Am I the only one to whom the Ustinov's role seems boring?

Yes, Ustinov is a great actor, but in Logan's Run he makes me sleep.

MaryMary5 - March 8, 2006 01:39 AM (GMT)
Hi all. Here's my take on these questions.

1. I don't think Jessica was a firm believer in murder, period. She questioned the way things went, but I always felt she was more of a pacifist. (If we were talking about the book I might think she initially wanted Logan murdered, since Doyle was her brother in the novel.)

2. As far as Old Man, I just felt that there were people who managed to survive outside, but they died off and he was the last of those who never knew of the CIty of Domes.

3.Lastly, as far as the others getting outside at the end, the explosions cracked the Dome and allowed an easier way to get outside than Jess and Logan.

JMHO

Honestly, it's all in how you want to see it. Have a good one! :D

David4 - March 18, 2006 07:30 PM (GMT)
The thing that always intrigued me about the world outside the Domes is that it's lush and green,and overgrown. But there's no devistation from any type of war,a war that is mentioned in the opening scene. No destroyed cities. Nothing.
One would of thought Washington DC would of been decimated,but it wasn't.




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