Title: 5 Best, 5 Worst
Description: Sci-Fi / Fantasy Best and Worsst
The Running Man - April 18, 2005 07:50 PM (GMT)
I thought this might be a fun Topic..
The Best 5 Sci-Fi / Fantasy movies ever made...
No.1 Logan Run
No.2 Star Wars
No.3 Aliens ( The second one )
No.4 Lord of the Rings ( All three..its just one big movie as far as I'm concerned. )
No.5 The Blade Runner.
Honorable Mentions to: The Empire Strikes Back, Dark City, Walt Disneys the Black Hole, Close Encounters, Terminator 1, 2, The Matrix, Independece Day. Alien.
The Worst 5
Remember...When choicing the bottom 5 please try to stay away from B-movies...Frankenfish, She Creature...Kiler Tomatos...etc...All these movies were suppose to be bad...I'm talking about movies that were produced with a high budget and the intention of creating a successfull moving...but did'nt
My choices...
No.1 League of Extrodinary Gentlemen...This is the most awful movie I'v ever seen
No.2 RollerBall ( The re-make ) ...I lasted about 45 minutes before turnning it off.
No.3 Minority Report...Lotta special affects Lotta CGI. little else.
No.4 Star Ship Troopers...Just plain goofy.
No.5 A.I. ...CGI. is suppost to be a tool Speilberg's using it as a crutch.
Honerable Mentions too: Star Trek Insurection, Aliens 4, The Philedelphia Experiment 2...even though these movies did'nt make the top 5 they all posses a big time Gag factor...
The Running Man... :unsure:
Logan5 - April 22, 2005 01:04 AM (GMT)
Cool topic, Running Man...
Looks like we've got some similar picks.
Here are my 5 favorite Sci-Fi/Fantasy films (hope I'm not aging myself too much with these choices)...
Top Five (In no particular order):
1. Logan's Run
2. 2001: A Space Odyssey
3. Star Wars: A New Hope
4. Fritz Lang's Metropolis (B&W, Silent, 1926)
5. Alien
Runners Up:
Excalibur, Aliens, The Planet of the Apes (Original 60s version), Star Wars: EBS, THX-1138, LOTR Trilogy, Terminator, A Clockwork Orange, Blade Runner, Star Trek IV - The Voyage Home, and the original Rollerball with James Caan.
My Worst Picks:
1. The Fifth Element
2. Stargate
3. Planet of the Apes - the Tim Burton remake
4. Rollerball (the remake)
5. Van Helsing
I must admit, however, that I did enjoy AI - but I wouldn't put it highly up on my list, mainly because of the sappy ending. If the film had ended sooner, when the boy robot was underwater, talking to the Blue Fairy, it would've made my top 10. As it is, it's probable in my top 25.
Guest - April 27, 2005 04:47 PM (GMT)
Ahhh...The Voyage Home, I forgot about that one, not only is it the best Star Trek movies, but it is well worth an honorable mention as one of the best movie . It was the first Star Trek DVD I bought.
Here's a point of Interest albiet a bit off topic...
The first person to be offered the roll in Star Trek as Captain of the Enterprise was Jeffery Hunter as "Captain Pike", as I'm sure you already know. He did the first pilot " The Cage". This episode was later integrated into a two part epesode aired during the regular season called " The Managerie" which I'm sure you also already know.
What you may not know is what happed after the filming of this pilot. ..Jeffery Hunter for various reasons decided to decline the role on Star Trek . Among these reasons were his perception that the T.V. studios placed to many demands and restrictions on his career. His wife also had a part with influencing his disicion. From many accounts he felt that he was a Movie actor, and doing a television series ( especially Sci-Fi ) was beneith him. The years that followed were not kind to Mr. Hunter. The big budget Hollywood roles he seeked were few, his wife divorced him taking most of his money and he suffered from alcoholism. This all transpired within three years of him declining the role. With money becoming an issue he was forced to accept smaller parts, and take on roles in lower budget B-Movies. While filming on location in Spain he suffred a head injury in an accedental explosion on set. Although he complained of dizziness he appeared to be fine...this was not the case. The injury had cased cereabral homoraging. Shortly after arriving back in California he fell down a flight of steps at his home and suffered a scull fracture. He was rushed to the hospital were he died on the operatio table he was only 42 ...
How do you define Irony....
If Jeffery Hunter had accepted the roll as Captain Pike he would have esblished himself in one of the premere T.V. roles of the 20th century.
If Jeffery Hunter had accepted the role as Captain Pike he would not have been in Spain in 1969, and in all likelyhood would be alive today.
Im not a big fan of Irony... :unsure:
The Running Man - April 27, 2005 04:50 PM (GMT)
Sorry... Forgot to mention the last post was be me.
The Running Man... :unsure:
Logan5 - April 29, 2005 01:11 AM (GMT)
Running Man,
I knew most of the stuff about Jeffrey Hunter, but didn't know about the later stuff you mentioned. What a sad story..... Reminds me a bit of David Caruso (except he hasn't died yet :P ). Some TV stars just aren't made for film!!
I always liked the original Star Trek's the best. I never got into ST:TNG or any of the others that followed. To me, Star Trek will always be Kirk and Company.
Off-topic -- so when you gonna sign up as a board member here, Running Man? ;)
jkurlyhed - July 8, 2005 03:18 AM (GMT)
hey john, long time no see compadre
only 29 days till i lose my freedom forever.... :)
my top five....
1 the lord of the rings
2 empire strikes back
3 spaceballs
4 star trek
5 the matrix
my worst five is hard to say
but the u.s. remake of godzilla is definitely the worst....
so maybe...
1 godzilla
2 star wars: episode 1
3 species
4 alien vs. predator
5 dracula 2000
although...
i think if star wars: episode 1 had come out when star wars: a new hope did, then i suppose that episode 1 wouldn't have been so bad...
i mean the scripts ARE very similar, both written by lucas, and both a beginning of a trilogy....
and alien vs. pred had some redeemable qualities...
it ended.
jkurlyhed - July 8, 2005 07:59 PM (GMT)
yes logan 5, i do know i realize logans run is not on my top 5...
but i'm hoping that perhaps a neo logans run remake will change my mind....
Logan5 - July 9, 2005 01:02 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (jkurlyhed @ Jul 8 2005, 07:59 PM) |
yes logan 5, i do know i realize logans run is not on my top 5... but i'm hoping that perhaps a neo logans run remake will change my mind.... |
--- counting the days/months/years til release -----
:D
btw --
enjoy your last days of freedom ---- you'll definately want to remember them after the first three months of marital bliss!!
Francis 8 - August 31, 2005 09:58 PM (GMT)
I'd have to say that my favorite Top Five science fiction films are the following.
1. 2001: A Space Odyssey
2. 2010: The Year We Make Contact
3. Logan's Run
4. The Andromeda Strain
5. Marooned
As for the Top Five science fiction movies that are the WORST, here are the following.
1. A Clockwork Orange
2. Rollerball (2002 remake)
3. Planet Of The Apes (2001 remake)
4. Armageddon
5. Thunderbirds (2004 remake)
When will Hollywood ever learn that they should not re-make classic films, TV Shows, or recycle old ideas in different forms?
jkurlyhed - September 4, 2005 06:41 PM (GMT)
john!
long time no see....
well, i survived the honeymoon without plummetting to my death after being stabbed by foreigners anyway....
i think i need to add A.I. to my top five and retract the lord of the rings... it being a fantasy epic (and not quite science fiction)
Logan5 - September 5, 2005 08:37 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (jkurlyhed @ Sep 4 2005, 06:41 PM) |
john! long time no see.... well, i survived the honeymoon without plummetting to my death after being stabbed by foreigners anyway....
i think i need to add A.I. to my top five and retract the lord of the rings... it being a fantasy epic (and not quite science fiction) |
In this thread - we're allowing Fantasy films, so your Lord of the Rings Tirlogy is o.k.
I'm stunned, though, that you also enjoyed AI. Too many people thought it was too depressing, but I admired the acting, the story, the characters, and the overall futuristic look of Rouge City! I also enjoyed the fact that it was originally to be a Kubrick production ;)
I didn't care for the ending though, as I stated above - but it was a very interesting, futuristic take on the Pinochio tale.
Glad you survived your honeymoon -
as they say in the classic movie "Freaks" - "One of us! One of us!"
Logan5 - September 5, 2005 08:40 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Francis 8 @ Aug 31 2005, 09:58 PM) |
I'd have to say that my favorite Top Five science fiction films are the following.
1. 2001: A Space Odyssey 2. 2010: The Year We Make Contact 3. Logan's Run 4. The Andromeda Strain 5. Marooned
As for the Top Five science fiction movies that are the WORST, here are the following.
1. A Clockwork Orange 2. Rollerball (2002 remake) 3. Planet Of The Apes (2001 remake) 4. Armageddon 5. Thunderbirds (2004 remake)
When will Hollywood ever learn that they should not re-make classic films, TV Shows, or recycle old ideas in different forms? |
Francis 8,
I'm surprised you list "A Clockwork Orange" in your bottom 5 list (only because you ranked "2001" at the top). Interesting... I ususally see high praises of both films from those who've seen (and understood) ;) both...
btw... on your Top list, I have yet to see Marooned - but will look out for it in the future.
Francis8 - September 6, 2005 01:43 AM (GMT)
Marooned is a very good movie. It came out a year after 2001: A Space Odyssey, and won the Academy Award for best Special Effects. The film is more science fact than science fiction, but still entertaining to watch. I think you'll enjoy it. For a film that came out in 1969, it still holds up pretty well.
I thought that A Clockwork Orange would have been decent because it was science fiction, it was directed by Stanley Kubrick, it had Malcolm McDowell, and it was filmed in England. Even the premise about young punks running amok in a futuristic society, where peaceful citizens were trapped in their homes sounded a bit curious, especially for someone of Kubrick's background to tackle a subject like this.
However, when I saw the film during its twentieth anniversary, I finally understood why my parents forbade me to watch it until I was 18. The movie, its subject matter, and content was so offensive and degrading, that I understood why it was banned in Great Britain for many years to come. Let alone rated X and caused some serious controversy in the early '70's. I'm still amazed that it was not banned from the United States. The film and everything about it was just appauling and offensive. I am surprised that it was released in 1971, because it doesn't look like a film that was made in that period.
Now a days, the film is just something to sit and laugh at. We, the movie going audience, have been so desensitized to violence, that such a condition is not even a joking matter. It just goes to show you how far the human race has really become.
MaryMary5 - October 10, 2005 12:48 AM (GMT)
Very cool topic Running Man. :D
Here are my top 5 best:
1. Logan's Run
2. Star Wars (A New Hope)
3. Alien 2
4. Return of The King
5. Star Trek 2: The Wrath of Khan
Honoable mention: The Empire Strikes Back, Return of the Jedi, The first two installments of the Lord of the Rings, Exalibur (great movie), Night of the Comet(I know it's schmaltzy, but I love it.), Independence Day, Close Encounters. I'll stop here.
My 5 worst:
1 Alien 3
2. Jaws 3-D
3. Contact
4.Starship Troopers (Although I watch it anyway. It's almost likebeing a deer caught in headlights. LOL)
5. Any STNG Movie
A few others I didn't like: Star Wars I & II (III was better), Event Horizon, and Supernova.
Logan5 - October 10, 2005 01:01 AM (GMT)
Excellent picks MaryMary5! Nice to see others that also enjoyed "Excalibur"!! It really is a great King Arthur flick and still holds up very well for being an over 20 year old movie!!
MaryMary5 - October 10, 2005 01:05 AM (GMT)
Thanks Logan 5. Excalibur is one of those movies that will most certainly hold up over time. I had it on VHS and now have it on DVD. I wish they would put out an anniversary edition.
MaryMary5 - October 11, 2005 11:51 AM (GMT)
I just wanted to add Terminator and Terminator II (extended version) as two more of my favs. I didn't even bother with Terminator III. It looked bad in the previews.
The Running Man - October 13, 2005 06:52 PM (GMT)
Hello...I have to add my two cents with regards to Clock Work Orange.
.....I myself have also seen this movie and was absolutley un-impressed. I feel much the same as Francis 8.." The film and everything about it was just appauling and offensive." I don't have a problem with violence in films, sometimes I think it is done very well... examples movie were it was used effectively are... Heavy Metal, Saving Private Ryan, The Jackle, and Apocalyse Now. ..But this movie was just violence for the sake of violence, and I was not impressed, another more recent movie that is also guilty of this is SIN CITY..although it is visually very impressive I felt the Level GRAFIC VIOLENCE was unlike anything I've ever seen before and totally un-nessissary. ...I believe Frank Millar could best serve the general public by crawling back down the Hole he came from, this guy obviously has some serious issues...just my opinion.... :angry:
Logan5 - October 13, 2005 11:29 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (MaryMary5 @ Oct 11 2005, 11:51 AM) |
| I just wanted to add Terminator and Terminator II (extended version) as two more of my favs. I didn't even bother with Terminator III. It looked bad in the previews. |
Hi MaryMary5,
For what's it worth, I actually enjoyed Terminator III, up to a point. Although not as good as I and II, it had it's moments. The best scene was when they got into Skynet and did battle with all the Skynet machines.
Again, it's not the best of the series, but I thought it worked out ok. The hardest part for me was getting used to believe that Nick Stahl was supposed to be John Conner. He actually came off being a little too wimpy as John, IMO.
MaryMary5 - October 17, 2005 11:59 AM (GMT)
Well Logan, maybe I'll give T3 a look.
I just wanted to make a comment about "A Clockwork Orange". I read the book in college, as a part of my "Sci-Fi' class. (OK, can you say fluff credits? LOL)
Anyway, after reading the book I went out and rented the VHS. It wasn't bad, but I felt it was so dated. They couldn't translate the book into movie form very well. That seems to be the case with many movies. If you like Stephen King, you have to admit his books are much more scarey and suspenseful than the movies.
JMHO
Paulx - October 19, 2005 04:54 AM (GMT)
Personally, as a NON-admirer of Stephen King -- he's come up with a few decent premises, but I find his language usage hackneyed and his characters two-dimensional -- I've noticed that many of the films based on his works have turned out to be SUPERIOR to the books. I think it's largely because:
- some fine directors -- Kubrick (THE SHINING), Cronenberg (THE DEAD ZONE), Reiner (MISERY), etc. -- have KEPT what WORKS about King and fixed what doesn't, thereby elevating the source material; and
- terrific actors like Nicholson, Duvall, Walken, Sheen, Bates, & Caan have added the "third dimension" that was missing from the characters as King wrote them.
For my money, King is no William F. Nolan! (And yes, I'm aware that Bill likes King's work.)
The Running Man - December 16, 2005 11:25 PM (GMT)
I like your picks also MaryMary5, but I have to admit that I liked Contact, in fact I think I went to see it twice in the theater... :popcorn: hehehe