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Title: Food In the Dome
Description: Where does the food come from?


jesse 40 - June 15, 2006 05:56 AM (GMT)
Jesse 40 here,
I was talking to a few people about Logans Run, several topics came up,
but one was, where is the food, what did they eat, and where did it come from?
It was brought up that the Ocean was the main supplier,or maybe something like K-rations, C-rations or something similier. Another mentioned that it might be a similier thing like the Movie "Solent Green", where those on last day were killed, then made into food. What are the thoughts of my fellow City Dwellers?

Ron - June 15, 2006 02:07 PM (GMT)
If you look closely you can see a Mcdonald's in arcade.

Logan5 - June 15, 2006 04:29 PM (GMT)
Ron -- I never saw the McDonalds yet. Do you know where its seen in the movie precisely?

:offtopic:

I remember as a kid that I always thought that Box was sending the food to the Domes in the form of frozen runners. He did keep talking about 'regular storage procedures' and such - making me think that the Citizens of the Domes were in fact cannibals eating the runners he caught - it's just that the citizens didn't realize it, of course - just like 'Soylent Green'. :omg: Gross!

However, as I continued to watch Logan's Run over and over again - and started piecing together things better than my 11-year-old mind allowed me to back then, it suddenly dawned on me that the Computer never knew of Box's existance and the where abouts of the missing/frozen runners - so Box couldn't have been sending them back as food, otherwise the Computer would have known what happened to them - so my earlier gross kid theory was disproven after further viewings of the film.

Box is a Freezer - a robot who freezes food using 'regular storage procedures'. But NOT for the City of Domes. The movie version of Box was more than likely tied to a different past and forgotten society rather than the current one within the Domes.

Today, I think it's either two things...

1. They get their food from the sea. Logan says something to that effect when he and Jessica are running under the City in the 'sewers'. We even see fish swimming around in the glass windows below the city.

2. The Dome citizens are vegetarians. The food may be grown in special areas of the Domes (ie Greenhouses) for fruits, vegetables and the like.

Any other ideas?

Ron - June 16, 2006 02:46 AM (GMT)
Remember the tv series when Logan and Jessica would eat it always looked liked coloured paste.Something that the astronauts would eat.I think their food is synthedic.The computer gives them all of their needs...............the Mcdonald's scene was left on the cutting room floor....Happy meals for the yellows

David4 - June 25, 2006 02:21 AM (GMT)
Maybe Food Synthesizers like the ones on the original Star Trek. It would make sense considering that the computer was taking complete care of the City.


Guest - August 3, 2006 05:15 AM (GMT)
I figured they just ate some synthetic vegetarian food. Logan mentions that people used to breed fish to eat, and then Jessica replies by saying how "savage" things must have been, so I don't think they eat meat, but who knows.

Logan5 - August 3, 2006 01:11 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Guest @ Aug 3 2006, 05:15 AM)
I figured they just ate some synthetic vegetarian food.  Logan mentions that people used to breed fish to eat, and then Jessica replies by saying how "savage" things must have been, so I don't think they eat meat, but who knows.

You're correct Guest -

Jessica does refer to it as being 'savage', which would then suggest that the people of the Domes are more than likely vegetarians (unless the meat is processed into liquid form without them knowing that its actually 'liquid' meat).

In the movie, we are never shown people actually eating in the Domes. All consumption shown is via drinking.

nems12 - August 3, 2006 03:06 PM (GMT)
The scene with Jessica at the table with other members of the ‘runner underground’ was filmed with more dialogue at the beginning of the scene which ended up on the cutting room floor. As originally filmed, there were establishing “group shots” showing all 5 people within the camera’s frame, sitting around the table eating. Since this footage clearly intended to show eating, the filmmakers did put some thought into what and how food was to be consumed. My guess is that the idea of energy drinks and a vegetarian diet is what they wanted to convey.

The only glimpse we have into this missing footage is the following lobby card from Germany. A better quality picture would offer more detail as to what exactly is on the table (Rob Yancey, any chance you happen to have additional images of this table in your collection?).
user posted image
Unfortunately, the released edit is missing this establishing shot, which leaves the viewer unsure as to exactly whom (and how many) are seated at the table, or the fact that they are eating.

Here is the missing dialoge:
QUOTE
86  EXT. - RESTAURANT - FULL ANGLE - THE THREE MEN,
  WOMAN AND JESSICA

Eating without enthusiasm...obviously more interested in their
conversation.

      SECOND MAN
   He's blinking...so what? Sandmen get
   old, too.

      FIRST MAN
   But what if he's telling the truth?

      THIRD MAN
   I say no. It's not worth the risk.

      WOMAN
   I absolutely agree. He's killed Runners
   for a decade. He has no feelings.

      JESSICA
   He was born a Sandman. He had no
   choice.

      WOMAN
   Neither do we.
…the scene then continues as we see it in the released film. There is also some deleted footage at the end of the scene when Jessica exits, and the woman then takes off her necklace and hands it to the man for future use as a garrote to kill Logan.
user posted image

The Running Man - August 3, 2006 03:18 PM (GMT)
This is a good discussion and thee are some valid points but...

A quote from the Logans Run Script...

LOGAN (stupefied)
How did they get in here?

BOX
Regular storage procedure...the
same as the other food... The
other food stopped coming and they
started.

LOGAN
What other food?

BOX
Fish and plankton, sea greens and
protein from the sea.
(pointing to the frosted
ice wall)
It's all here - ready - fresh as
harvest day. Fish and plankton,
sea greens and protein from the
sea...And then it stopped coming
and they (gesture) came instead.
So I store them here. I'm ready.
And you're ready. It's my Job -
protein, plankton, grass from the
sea


Assuming that he veiwer has never read the book ( and most have'nt ) you have to take this literally. Box was processing the Runners as a food, the citizens of the Dome city were cannabals albeit they were unaware of the fact. Thats the way I interpreted it when I first saw the movie and thats the way I interpret it now. :popcorn:

>Logan 5< - August 3, 2006 08:35 PM (GMT)
They weren't cannibals.
Box has no connection to the city in 2274. He's left-over equipment from the carnivore days, before the domes - or at least from along time ago when the citizens ate fish. He doesn't receive food for processing nor does he send processed food out.

He doesn't know why fish were no longer being sent to him for processing. He doesn't think - he just performs pre-programmed tasks. He mentions it himself - "the other food (fish, sea greens, etc) stopped coming and they (runners) started" The other food came into the city - the runners are coming from the city. He doesn't know what to do with them. He's just doing what he's been programmed to do - freeze things that enter his area. So when runners start passing through there, he freezes them. Since he has no connection to the city, he just stores them. The city is unaware of Box, so no one ever comes to get them.

"The other food stopped" because of some event that took place above ground. Whatever it was, it severed Box's connection to the world he was designed by and for. The fish are still in the breeding tanks. That whole area isn't a part of the domed city in 2274. No one - the people or the computer - is aware of any of that.

There's a reference to it in one of the early drafts of the script. It's noted that the frozen runners are all numbered 1 – 1056. That's when Logan realizes what's happened to the 1056 unaccounted runners.

“This room has a fairly low ceiling and it is not too wide.

It stretches back as far as the eye can see……Each frozen body has a number above it. The final body's number is 1056...That number which the voice in Sandman's headquarters revealed as the number of missing runners.”


He and Jessica are almost numbers 1057 and 1058 but since no sandman has ever been a runner, no runner has ever been armed and able to get past Box.

The computer wouldn’t have sent Logan on his mission to find the runners (the entire reason for the story in the first place) if the runners were being sent back as food.

Food source in a grossly over populated, filthy, contaminated environment - ala Soylent Green - isn't a plot point in this film because that isn't a problem in the world of 2274. The message \ story of this film is that it's wrong to burn people alive at the age of 30 as a form of population control.

Logan3 - August 4, 2006 05:45 AM (GMT)
Well as for Box, compared from book to movie .. the movie version of Box is totally Hollywood with bits of the book as Box in the book was a self suffecient survivalist not a grocery store freezer room. Sci Fi movies are intended to always .. leave to the imagination ... so things not known on screen could be imagined in each persons mind that watches it and thinks for themselves. like everyone here has done so. So in essence there is no wrong answer to this question since it was never established firmly in the theatrical release version. makes ya kind of hungry thinking about it huh? :popcorn:




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