Caroline can't stand Angela, as we well know, but I find it hard to work out exactly how Angela feels towards Caroline.

Angela says things to Caroline that put her down but they never seem like intentional putdowns and it's hard to tell whether or not Angela is truly unaware of what she's saying to Caroline or whether she just pretends to be unaware. I mean, they pretend they like each other and we know that's pretence on Caroline's behalf but it really is hard to work out if Angela's trying to rub it in or if she's just like that.

We'll ignore Angela's last scene in the series, though. It became obvious by the time she was leaving for her new career, lol. Their relationsahip is series 1 is interesting, though.

Angela is quite an ambiguous character, isn't she? She reminds me of Twist from Spaced. Total bitch, without realising it.

Yeah, that why I didn't really dislke her in the first series, because I know people like that, they just put their foot in it every time. Mind you none of them are particularly nice people so I don't accept that as them being them. I'm sure a lot of the people who're like that do it purposely.

I have an example actually, a group of my friends went into town one evening, one of them asked a guy if he wanted her number (a horribly vain and nasty person), he said no, and he was talking to another of my friends. One of the other in the group suggested he might want my friend's number (who was talking to him at the time) and the nasty one said "Well if he didn't want my number, he isn't going to want B's, is he?"

Pity I wasn't there. I might just've shown her the meaning of smackdown.

Cor blimey, what a nasty piece of work!

I know what you mean, generally that type of person are as horrible as you think.

i totally agree!
i have a friend JUST like that.

I s'pose. I think it'd be hard to be oblivious every time to what you're saying and how it sounds. In real life it would, anyway.

I think you underestimate just how ditzy some people can be, L_S :)

LOL, maybe you're right. But then I should know in view of how ditzy I can be, lol.

I suffer from chronic foot in mouth disease, I'm constantly having to apologise to people for saying the wrong thing.

i really thought then you meant that you were a cow or a sheep. :blink:

I think Angela is one of those people who is totally tuned into themselves.

Let's have a conversation, but only if it's about me.
If the conversation isn't about me, let's get it round to me.
I'm the only one who has feelings, so therefore I'm the only one that counts.

I actually know people who will say "oh hello how are you" and before you can even answer go off about what they've been doing, etc. etc. etc. :angry:

btw: I like Angela, I just wouldn't like to know her in real life.

I have a close friend who is actually scarily like you described as quoted. She never used to be like that but she's changed so much over the years. It's really quite saddening, actually, although she's happier than she used to be in some ways but she is such a different person now and only seems bothered about her life. She doesn't listen to anything anyone has to say about their lives. :(

Did she lose a lot of weight? I find people who lose substantial weight feel better about themselves (which is great, I'm not condemning that), but also can, from such an ego boost, become very self-involved, and only care about themselves, when before they were the nicest people you could've met. So they're a lot healthier, but not always as nice :) I mean, obviously not everyone who loses tons of weight turns out like that, it's just what I've experienced with people.

I have a friend like this too! She is totally disinterested in everyone else's life or problems! She is my best friend, but to be honest I think we are drifting apart- cos someone who cared about me wouldnt do what she has done in the last couple of weeks. Ans she jus doesnt get it, cos wen we talk all she is ever thinking is "how does this concern/affect me" makes me crazy!

And yeah, I think Angela is exactly like this! I also think her nast remarks- like about Carolines hair- she doesnt take seriously... cos most people dont say things to other people that they wouldnt like someone else to say to them- but Angela doesnt care cos if someone said it to her she wouldnt believe them- cos she is so over confident in the way she looks and her abilities! I think that made sense.... lol

My friend didn't lose weight, no. It's just the way she's changed as she's grown up, I suppose, and the fact she'd developed with her new walks of life and independence.

I completely sympathise with you, MBG. What you said sounds v. familiar. :( I still love my friend but I wish it were like the good old days when we see each other.