Title: Episode 9 Speculation
Description: theories and guesswork
CigarettesYamaha - May 1, 2006 01:11 PM (GMT)
i dont know if its already been said many-a-time (probably has)
but do u guys know about the whole 'wedding, funeral, death' thing?
newestgreenwingfan01 - May 2, 2006 08:01 PM (GMT)
yup!!! im dyin to find out who it is!!!
i think joanne kills harriet (for stealing lyndon) or caroline does shoot holly (as she pretended to do in series two episode 4) so theres a funeral. caroline and guy get married (freaky thought i know!) or holly and mac get married (even more horrible!) or sue and mac get married (now thats just funny) or mac and caroline get married (bringing a smile to the mac/caroline devotees faces)
any other ideas?
kittyofdoom - May 3, 2006 06:53 AM (GMT)
For some reason I can't see them killing off Holly, and I can't *really* see them killing off one of the main cast either, hmm, I don't know. Just have to wait and see. Is it this week's episode it's supposed to kick off? I can't quite remember.
azuresoul - May 3, 2006 09:30 PM (GMT)
i cant wait to see who dies... i know thats mean but... then it might be a relief that it isnt certain people...
i think mac might marry holly to try and do the responsible thing and be a "proper" father... and then the series ends, and we wont know til the xmas special whether caroline says "i object" and goes with mac...
or guy could marry sue... that would be hilarious!
kittyofdoom - May 3, 2006 09:34 PM (GMT)
Ooh, maybe Guy marries Caroline, but gets her drunk first because that's the only time she's ever kissed him and stuff, though she's found him attractive at other times. Anyway, Sue asked Guy to marry her so he does, and right in the middle of the service Mac comes bursting through the doors, a little like The Graduate, runs down the isle, holding a huge wooden clog, a massive one and knocks Guy unconcious, so that Mac and Caroline can continue the ceremony instead.
That is all me being silly I hope you understand, I don't seriously think that'll happen, but it'd be quite funny :)
azuresoul - May 3, 2006 09:39 PM (GMT)
lol that sounds good to me.... you can just see this image of mac using a mahuuusive crane to life a huuuuuge wooden clog and like one of those destroying ball thingies (mind blank as to what they are called) whack it into guy lol.
kittyofdoom - May 3, 2006 09:41 PM (GMT)
That's even bigger than I was thinking! :D It's a wrecking ball, I think, hehe, that'd be awesome, I was thinking of one the size that he'd be carrying it in both hands with the toe part higher than his head :) but hey, it's all imaginery, so anything's possible.
azuresoul - May 3, 2006 09:44 PM (GMT)
lol yeah running down the aisle with it raised above his head, and then he hits guy... and then you see guy on the floor, and hes dead, and all you can see is those eyes he uses on caroline... ahhh that would make me so sad... spesh cos of the eyes....
btw its late and i have done way too much coursework - hence the overactive imagination about anything that doesnt involve work...
kittyofdoom - May 3, 2006 09:47 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (azuresoul @ May 3 2006, 09:44 PM) |
| btw its late and i have done way too much coursework - hence the overactive imagination about anything that doesnt involve work... |
Hehe, can totally relate there. Anything that could distract me from my work can and does, for hours at a time, it's awful. But then I theorise about GW and it doesn't seem so bad. If only more people knew about it and they could the sympathise with me. My excuse might even be valid then :) ah well.
azuresoul - May 3, 2006 09:49 PM (GMT)
lol yeah... that would be an original one - go into school and be like "yeah, sorry, havent done the work, cos i was just watching green wing/ the kiss...again".... lol
CigarettesYamaha - May 6, 2006 11:35 AM (GMT)
oh sorry, guys i hadnt seen that u'd replied!
i got a bit lost :P
but, ok we've had our death... Joanna's cousin.
so wedding.... its gotta be harriet and lyndon because i dont think theres
any other characters that are likely to elope anytime soon besides those two.
but the funeral? im still stuck on that one.
IMO - May 6, 2006 12:08 PM (GMT)
But Harriet dumped Lyndon - even though he is very shiney :lol:
I have great hope that the marriage isn't Mac and Holly's. He certainly managed to resist her kissy kissy bits *excuse me while I just go and throw up*. But then anything can happen in the mad world of Green Wing and I do think episode 7 is going to be an explosive one to lead into Episode 8.
All I know is there's going to be a lot more shouting at the telly before things get resolved :o
CigarettesYamaha - May 6, 2006 12:17 PM (GMT)
aw, deary a mac and holly wedding! it is possible. thats the horrible thing.
because mac feels he needs to do the right thing, and arg. oh, its not wroth thinking about.
do u think the reason holly kept minimac a secret will be explained?
i seriously have hope that L and H will elope with all her kids.
i loved the line
'my children are my life, and id give up my life for my children'
i know we're gonna be left on a cliffhanger (AGAIN)
you can just see it coming... god, its going to be so frustrating
kittyofdoom - May 6, 2006 02:29 PM (GMT)
I think the funeral *could* be Martin's dad, Donald Twat, or maybe he just dies outside of GW and we're told about it, being where Martin gets a sum of money from. I doubt there'll be any will-related stuff for Joanna's cousin as nobody knows he's died yet (apart from Joanna and Statham). Just a thought, the gang could be there for moral support, but I haven't seen the infamous picture (funeral scene) so this is all just me rambling.
Mighty Aphrodite - May 6, 2006 03:16 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (kittyofdoom @ May 6 2006, 03:29 PM) |
| I think the funeral *could* be Martin's dad, Donald Twat, or maybe he just dies outside of GW and we're told about it, being where Martin gets a sum of money from. I doubt there'll be any will-related stuff for Joanna's cousin as nobody knows he's died yet (apart from Joanna and Statham). Just a thought, the gang could be there for moral support, but I haven't seen the infamous picture (funeral scene) so this is all just me rambling. |
Thats a good point - Martins hardly going to get any money from Joanna now is he, I mean she refuses to acknowledge he's her son!
I thought the whole mirror scene with Martin & Donald Twatt was great, so obviously father and son, it'd be sad if he died, as Martin would never have gotten to know him, but Donald could be a multi-millionaire.... who knows?
Multi-millionaires run newsagents.... :lol: :lol:
azuresoul - May 7, 2006 10:24 AM (GMT)
lol he could have a huuuge chain lol. or his dad could be rich, and so martin's dad is rich as well - he just chooses to work where he loves to work....
i think the sum of money is likely to be for a will, unless he does something for medical research or something.
i have another theory about the last episode's summary - the one where it says guy, mac and martin make caroline an offer. What if, now martin doesnt have a girlfriend anymore, he focuses his attention on caroline again? in that case, all three of the bloke will make caroline an offer to be with her (guy, as we can probably guess reeeeally likes caroline, which btw is damn sweet, and mac might realise he likes her and wants to be with her as well as being a father). Caroline then thinks it is too complicated, and so turns them all down. But, then something happens to change her mind, and that is the "or does she?" bit, which we will have to wait until xmas to see the resolution of....(because really, caroline is going to get a guy at the end....)
what dya think?
Mighty Aphrodite - May 7, 2006 10:52 AM (GMT)
Yeah, you can see Martin still likes Caroline, he asked her to go out with him to dinner didnt he but she'd made a date with Jake instead.
I think its going to be bigger than just "going out together" though, I'm really thinking its marriage - after all, has already been pointed out that when Sue got "married" to Mac in Episode 1, she threw the bouquet and Caroline caught it.... ;)
friendlymacandgreenwingfan:) - May 7, 2006 11:56 AM (GMT)
Correct me if i have missed the point etc.
The picture for series 2 has all of the main characters dressed in
ballet kit, so maybe the ball, may be fancy dress , but the trailers
for the 2nd series have people running through the lines and dressing
tables and stuff, so maybe the extra-curricular activity is a play,
or show!
Please do helkp me with this thought.
friendlymacandgreenwingfan :excited
http://www.channel4.com/entertainment/tv/m...ng/series2.html The 2 banners at the top of this page are the images which i was
talking about!
kittyofdoom - May 7, 2006 12:01 PM (GMT)
Ooh, you might be on to something there FGWF :) there was me thinking it was just crazy randomness, it might actually be something more than that. Ooooooh, interesting...
azuresoul - May 7, 2006 12:04 PM (GMT)
aaah tis clever - that might actually be the case!
hehe cant wait to see statham in his pink tutu again lol
im torn between hu i want for caroline - guy or mac....
lol im way too involved...
friendlymacandgreenwingfan:) - May 7, 2006 04:54 PM (GMT)
Tis a tough one. Glad i wasn't being an idiot bout the whole ballet
thing :excited
I am torn too, you see mac is just wonderful in every way, but thw whole complication with holly and :o mackennzie might be too much for caroline to cope with!
As for guy... well ...he's very opinionated about mac...and i don't know if caroline can
cope with that either. Guy isn't very nice though, but maybe he's
misunderstood....
LOL what about jake? i wonder if he'll recover from the knife insodent
I reckon he'd be best for caroline, but it would be a twist, if, i doubt it would happen but,
jake could be in a comer from the knife-in-head thing and it would happen
all over again :P crazyyyy
azuresoul - May 7, 2006 05:57 PM (GMT)
i think that caroline would be best for guy tbh... in all this everyones only thinkin bout hu caroline gets n i wud b happy wiv ne1... i think... ahhh... confused....
but caroline seems to have been the only one hu guy has fallen for, ever. mac has had holly, which proves he is capable of a serious relationship - he wasnt scared off by the kid thing...
tis just normally, if sum girl blew off guy, he would make some offhand comment about how ugly she was and then try with someone else. but he spent aaaages trying to get with caroline, and is now properly falling for her.... sweet....
i think theres gonna be some huge fight between guy and mac, when a lot of their feelings are shown - like mac will find out about guy, and how he slept with caroline, and how he only wants what he cant have, and then guy will be like he only wanted what was best for caroline, and he has loved her for a long time, before caroline and mac got together, but he stepped aside, and let her go to mac, because he thought that was what would make her happy. etc etc etc... and then i will love guy even more lol
lol should i fic it!?
m+cshipper - May 8, 2006 09:49 AM (GMT)
i know this sounds really harsh as its not really his fault that all his that happened, but is anyone else wishing the death is mackensie?????????????? That takes care of the death and the funeral. i know thats mean but it would be soo good! Ok, well we can rule out Mac, Guy, Martin and Caroline dying because aren't they all in the last scene?! I think thats right?! maybe its just Guy and Caroline!
the wedding!! hmm......i have a really bad feeling its something to do with caroline..........and possibly Guy?!!
also the whole death thing, it can't be Joanna's cousin, because didn't the cast or the writers say this death was gonna be a huge one?! Or maybe they were joking?! i don't know.....
kittyofdoom - May 8, 2006 04:20 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (m+cshipper @ May 8 2006, 09:49 AM) |
| also the whole death thing, it can't be Joanna's cousin, because didn't the cast or the writers say this death was gonna be a huge one?! Or maybe they were joking?! i don't know..... |
Maybe they were being ironic, due to the actor's size :)
I haven't read anything about the death, I've tried to steer clear of any HUGE spoilers.
m+cshipper - May 8, 2006 04:21 PM (GMT)
oh yeh, as writers of a comedy that would really make sense! lol.
azuresoul - May 8, 2006 07:54 PM (GMT)
yeah it would... it would be typical of them!!
i have a really bad feeling that the wedding is mac and holly... cos mac is trying to do the good thing and be a father, so he might do that... they are really the only two who are plausibly set up for marriage atm. i then think we wont know whether caroline stops it until the xmas special....
nikki06 - May 8, 2006 08:01 PM (GMT)
Hi i'm new and i've never done anything like this before so i'm quite nervous :blush but i've got to say about the whole wedding funeral and death thing, didnt sue white marry mac when he was in a coma? or does that not count cos it wasnt legal i was just curious to know cos i hope it isnt i'd luv to see tbh guy nd caroline get together cos i think she puts him in his place when he goes too far. i'm just blabbering on here so i'm just gonna leave it at that ;)
IMO - May 8, 2006 09:16 PM (GMT)
Jake doesn't appear on the cast list for this weeks episode, which either means his storyline is finished, or he is the dead person :unsure:
I don't think the wedding is Mac and Holly as Mac learns more family news in the next episode which gives hope to him and Caroline (there's a thread somewhere about this ;) ) So I agree with Nikki06 that the wedding referred to is the Sue White one.
As for them all running round in tutu's I think that's to do with publicity shots/trailers. I can't see a reason for them all to dress up like that otherwise :unsure:
friendlymacandgreenwingfan:) - May 9, 2006 06:01 PM (GMT)
azuresoul - May 9, 2006 06:16 PM (GMT)
there was a poster for the summer ball (thats in another thread i think) - it could be fancy dress....
| QUOTE |
| i'd luv to see tbh guy nd caroline get together cos i think she puts him in his place when he goes too far |
me too! thats what i think! i dont think guy will ever really find anyone else - caroline is the only one who he really listens to, cos he likes her... its so sweet lol.
| QUOTE |
| Jake doesn't appear on the cast list for this weeks episode, which either means his storyline is finished, or he is the dead person |
in the summary, it said one lead to bloodshed, the other to death... so if the dwarf is dead, then that means that jake only lost blood, and will be fine.
but who would want to go near someone who effectively lost him 8 grand and 12 years of work and (this is how it would appear to jake - i am not condoning this HIDEOUS misjudgement lol) whose psychotic flatmate insulted you and then threw a knife into your head!
i think its gorgeously sweet how protective of caroline guy is.... especially for someone like him lol
i have another reason why i think caroline DID sleep with guy (dont know what thread this was actually in, but meh)
cos she said to mac "or i could just go off with guy" and then mac said "you could do a lot better than guy" and caroline said "maybe"....
this could mean that caroline was testing out mac and his opinion of guy, seeing what he would think if caroline DID go off with guy... which means she is either considering it, or has! sweet!! yay!
im not sure what kind of shipper i am, but i think it is so sweet that guy of all people has fallen for someone (i think he definitely has), so he should get caroline...
newestgreenwingfan01 - May 9, 2006 06:30 PM (GMT)
im beginning to pine for another nice guy + caroline kiss!!!i mean ive watched dat clip sooo many times now and the song is makin me go hmmmmmmm :wub:
oh and yes i want guy + caroline to wind up together!!!
azuresoul - May 9, 2006 07:47 PM (GMT)
me too - cos guy probably wont ever be able to get anyone else - caroline seems to be the only one who has him figured and would be able to "tie him down".
i know... the one in ep6 didnt really count cos it wasnt proper - i want a PROPER one lol.
IMO - May 20, 2006 09:12 AM (GMT)
I had a thought. In fact I've had several in the way things tie in or follow on from previous episodes.
First One
We had Caroline questioning whether being a doctor really made a difference, etc. etc.
Maybe in Episode 9 she does a "House" and investigates Mac's test results, spends hours pouring over the internet and big fat medical journals, before finally discovering some obscure illness that can actually be treated by taking one aspirin a week for the rest of his life.
Second One
Caroline told Mac that he should have a go at the whole father thing otherwise he might regret not trying the whole father thing.
Guy emerges from the steam on the platform and Caroline finally thinks sod it, maybe I should have a go at the whole loving Guy thing, as otherwise I might regret not trying the whole loving Guy thing.
Third One
Mac finally has another chance at a Consultancy post
Looks like he might miss out yet again because of the illness, but surely if Episode 9 is to tie up all the loose ends, once Caroline has cured him he can also get the promotion.
Mighty Aphrodite - May 20, 2006 09:21 AM (GMT)
I really do believe that Mac can -and will- be cured....
My Ep9 would have him finding a cure and then riding off on his bike to stop Caroline & Guys wedding and when the vicar says... "Does anyone object" he screams "Marry me instead Caroline"
A long running theme has been the whole - Should Mac & Caroline be together? Because fate seems to stop them all the time, but I think that fate will ultimately bring them together....
xpingux - May 20, 2006 09:23 AM (GMT)
Yep.
Then Mac and Caroline should go away on his motorbike and life hapily ever after.
The end.
Ofcourse, it would be better without caro and guy's wedding fullstop.
kittyofdoom - May 20, 2006 09:29 AM (GMT)
I think finding a cure is a bit far-fetched, especially since the doctor who told him already said they'd investigated the possibilities. What I think is that the results aren't his, it's either a mix-up or they've been made-up, but it would've had to been done a while ago for the doctors to properly investigate the results.
Mighty Aphrodite - May 20, 2006 09:31 AM (GMT)
I dont think anyone in GW is cruel enough to do that to Mac though....
Maybe Holly perhaps.... lol but not Sue or Guy or anyone....
At the end of the day, Mac is a good bloke, like Guy said, he always has been a good bloke, always sticking up for people and helping people out - I suppose Sue has a motive, but only this episode with the restraining order and I doubt she'd have the authority to go through patient files....
Holly might've though.... <_<
kittyofdoom - May 20, 2006 09:33 AM (GMT)
I just don't know. Right now, all theories have some 'but' to them, nothing really sounds right, but then in a way that is good, we wouldn't want to go guessing the whole layout of episode 9, there'd be no point in watching it.
Mighty Aphrodite - May 20, 2006 09:35 AM (GMT)
Lets face it though, people have been guessing every single episode to date and its always been different, giving the writers some credit after what they did last night, they are great at writing things that no one could possibly believe could happen...
We can guess all we want, I bet no one will figure it out anyway! :lol:
kittyofdoom - May 20, 2006 09:37 AM (GMT)
Yep, they're evil geniuses.
And we're all biased, we're all working out ways in which things will happen that we want to happen, not what actually seems probable, based on the last episode.