The recording of the Montreal Film Festival confirmed that it's Aerith saying, "Let's go... Cloud...." in the AC premier. It's not clear yet when Aerith speaks this, or in what context she speaks this. It's also not clear whether this is a flashback, or whether Aerith is speaking this to Cloud during the events of the movie. I'm interested in what everyone thinks about this line!

Here is where we see the line in the different Film Festivals. From the premier shown at TGS:

Cloud’s expression turns fearless, and the strength to back that up can clearly be seen manifesting itself upon his face. And with all that change and all that strength within himself, more than anything, Cloud’s mind begins to tell its tale.
----Zack: "Cloud, what do you plan to do when we get to Midgar? We’re friends…right?"
----Zack: "Cloud! Run for it!!"
And a fleeting image of Zack raising his sword crosses his mind.
Staring at Fenrir, Cloud holds on to his left arm. The symptoms of Geostigma still cannot clearly be seen.
----Aerith: "Let’s go…Cloud…"
----scenery of a lake, and a splash of water like something has been dropped inside ---

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From the recording of the Montreal Film Festival:

(Aerith's church)
Kadaj "Mother! Mother... MOTHERRRRR!!!!!!! Oooooooh...."
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Zack "Hey, Cloud, what do you plan to do when we get to Midgar... friends...right?"
Zack "Cloud, RUN FOR IT!!"

Aerith "Let's go...Cloud..."

Tifa "The strong feelings that we had two years ago during the final battle, feels like they have dulled somewhat now, two years down the road. But now, it seems as though they have been re-ignited within Cloud."

Kadaj commences to scream.
Sephiroth "I....won't be just a memory."

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It appears to be a flashback of something Aerith said to him during the game, but flashbacks are usually of a significant moment. At what significant moment did Aerith say, "Let's go, Cloud?"

Or... could Aerith possibly be saying, "Let's go... Cloud..." as he approaches Sephiroth because she is going to help Cloud fight Sephiroth's spirit?

Hmmmm, golly. I'm sorry! I really don't know what to make of it! Maybe it was another thing that got Cloud going? And the splashing lake....Lakes in FF7 are also associated with Aeris...yet another total mystery until the movie comes out!

omg omg omgggggg I really don't know, I hope it's just not a flashback!!! I want some present time Cloud/Aeris lovin!

Here's a more detailed description of that part.

"The scene changes again to a rainy shot of Cloud standing outside of a temple, next to its supporting pillars, with Fenrir at his side. There is a pink ribbon attached to his left bicep and he is seen gingerly touching it, almost afraid to come into contact with it. The setting changes again, but this time, to a large body of water with several buildings in a blurred background. An amazingly clear and focused drop of water falls into the water, splashes and a disembodied voice is heard saying, "Let's go, Cloud". The screen slowly fades away into white and everything disappears."

From DAEYA.ORG

Oh, wow!! I started this thread before Daeya.org published that part, so I hadn't seen that yet...

Very interesting! That doesn't appear to be a flashback... does it? *howl*

Why would Cloud would be reaching for the ribbon as if afraid to touch it, though? It saddens him too much, perhaps?

Yep! XD what could that drop of water mean?! a tear?! :o

Geez, I dunno... what could that large body of water be with buildings surrounding it? We were thinking before this that the body of water was the lake where Aerith was buried, but it doesn't appear to be that. And what temple is Cloud standing in front of while touching the ribbon? I think the people at Daeya.org would have recognized Aerith's church, so it's apparently not her church.

My impression is that Aerith's spirit is leading Cloud somewhere at this temple and body of water, and she's encouraging him to follow. Perhaps her spirit has taken him someplace that will help him fight Geostigma, the SHM, or Sephiroth?

For those of you who haven't seen that page, it's at: Daeya.org with some interesting screenshots! :D The other thing is that the scene with Tifa saying, "The strong feelings that we had two years ago during the final battle, feels like they have dulled somewhat now, two years down the road. But now, it seems as though they have been re-ignited within Cloud." does not appear to be in Cloud's memory. It appears that Tifa was talking to someone else about Cloud, and that it takes place when he's not around.

I already protested about the ribbon pic, they have it.

Probably the materia dropping... remember her death scene in the game? The materia plunged into the lake...
but then again, it could be another thing, right? ^_^

Anyway... at that point when he's afraid to touch it... maybe it's the part when he still hasn't decided to forgive himself and he's still guilty about something.

And they didn't show it?!? *scream*

Daeya.org says that it's a drop of water, not the white materia... but they could be wrong. And the body of water is surrounded by buildings, so it's not the lake where she was buried. Perhaps this is the underground temple where Aerith was killed? That would make sense, since Cloud is probably feeling overwhelmed with grief while returning there... touching the pink ribbon in that way may signify just how painful the remembrance of her death is for Cloud in that situation.

Darn... why won't they show it!? It's so unfair!!! XD

Maybe it's a tear of when she died..oh god.

Ya know, that makes perfect sense. The temple down there was IN a lake, and it had columns(ya know, the ones Cloud jumped across and the ones in the water). I really think that's where it is. But why did the fish let him past NOW and not THEN when I wanted to go back in there! Grr! Meanie Nemo!

I've got a question that's slightly off topic. Why did Cloud wave the others back right before the death scene? He wanted a moment alone with Aeris?

I know!! I want to see it, too! Everyone go post at Daeya.org saying you want to see that pic!! Their forum's at Daeya.org Forums. If enough of us ask for it, they just might show it. :rolleyes:

That's what I always thought it meant. Vincent waves the others away in the same way when they find Lucrecia under the waterfall, too. In fact, when I saw it the first time, I thought Cloud was going to tell Aerith he loved her when he got to the altar. I had no idea what was going to happen. :(

I think it must be Aerith's spirit communicating with Cloud. That's what the Japanese believe so I think there'll be some Japaense influences in AC as there was in FFVII. The Japanese always believed that since each person had a body and a spirit, lovers could always communicate--even if they died, because the two could communicate with their spirits.

But what death scene...is this a confirmed fact? *feels lost and stupid* But then again, where is the place when Aerith says, "Let's go...Cloud,"

I say we hold up an e-petition and one of us go post it at the forums. We have to really, really polite and just suck up ;). Evil people for not showing...they want to see us suffer. GRR!

Yes, I think that's basically what we see in the flower field scene, and I agree that it must be Aerith's spirit is talking to him.

The Death Scene is the scene when Aerith was killed in FFVII.

They say it's a temple, not Aerith's church. They also say it's a large body of water surrounded by buildings, so it's not the lake where she was buried. All I can figure is that it must be the Temple where Aerith was killed in the underground city.

Why would Cloud be there? Have the SHM or Sephiroth gone there, and he has to stop them? Does he need to recover the white materia? Or is he simply there to remember Aerith? Whatever the reason, it looks like this is where Cloud will have to confront and deal with the pain and guilt of her death.

Oh. I feel incredibly stupid. I thought you guys were meaning that Cloud was going to be dead at the end of AC...or was that some other thread? Anyway, I think you're right. As the quote from daeya.org (you can read my siggie for that), I think that this is where Cloud will as you said, "confront his guilt"--and I also think that's the place where he will be starting heal slowly--with the help of Aerith--her spirit guiding him and talking to him and all.

That's from during Aerith's death in Advent Children. Yup, she will die again and Cloud will die with her. And when they are both beaten and laying in their own pool of blood nearly dead and holding hands, that is when Aerith will say that. They will both die and go away together so they can finally be at peace. *sniffle*

That's what will happen, believe me!

Just a note for those who do not know me from ACF, I happen to be a big fan of sad endings that make people cry, so don't mind me. :rolleyes:

:lol:
I understand...
But sometimes, sad endings make happier ones... uhm... I don't know if that made sense but... *shrugs* <_<

Let's go...Cloud...

Maybe it's like saying, "Let's go, Cloud, let's fight them together. I'll help you because I'm with you all the way..."

:wub:

:D

Yeah, that's what I thought it meant, too... perhaps Cloud goes to the temple where she was killed because the SHM or Sephiroth have gone there or something. He has to stop them, but he's reluctant to go there because of the memory of her death in that place. Since he has to confront the memory of his guilt and pain while he is there, Aerith's spirit is encouraging him to go on. And that's why he touches the pink ribbon that way...

This stuff is making me so excited! All this just means that Square is really putting a lot of meaning into little symbols. Just like in FFVII, we are gonna have to figure out all these meanings and piece it together. I love this kinda stuff. :lol:

Well, I have a bad feeling about this...

I think that the meaning of Tifa´s question "Why do we have to lose out to a memory"? She is speaking abourt Aeris´s memory. She is trying to tell Cloud that he has to leave behind this memory of her and goes on with his life...

If I am not wrong, when he touches his pink band, maybe this means that he has decided, eventually, to accept her death and to forgives himself and to confront the problem and, finally, if they don´t dead , to start a new life.... maybe with Tifa...!!


oh no!! I wish to be very wrong!! if i´m not wrong, I will kill Testsuya Nomura and all the Square-enix staff!!

By the way, anybody knows if Aerith is dearest than Tifa in Japan?? this is a very important clue for all of us...

Even if that's what Tifa means, why does Cloud have to agree just because that's what Tifa wants him to do? Just because Tifa wants it doesn't mean she's going to get it. ;) In the second place, "lose out" to a memory sounds like Tifa has already lost. In the third place, Tifa may be speaking to herself rather than to Cloud.

If that's what it means, then why is Aerith saying, "Let's go... Cloud...."? Aerith is says that during the same scene as he touches the ribbon, so Cloud deciding to move on with Tifa doesn't seem to make sense in terms of the context. It just doesn't fit the situation.

Do you ever have the feeling that we're squeezing too much out of things that might not even mean anything? We fans can sometimes be awfully amusing. :rolleyes:

That's what I believe it is. More than anything it sounds like a statement that someone would say to themself rather than a question to which you would hope to recieve an answer.

But perhaps it's not even about Aerith, it could be about Sephy, you never know. I don't think they would say something like that about Aerith as it almost sounds bit too negative.

I thought she was referring to Sephy at first, too, until I read the context in which it was presented in the Daeya.org report on the Montreal Film Festival, which made it sound more like Tifa was referring to Aerith.

There's more about Tifa saying, "Why do we have to lose out to a memory" in this thread: http://s8.invisionfree.com/Cloud_x_Aerith/...p?showtopic=116

Was it really said in *real time*? Maybe it's foreshadowing and it's a line Aeris says directly to him, that would be nice! But maybe it's not... :(

I still think the scene with the ribbon on his arm is a flashback... Shadowgirl said she thinks so too, and she watched the Montreal screening...

Besides, have we seen Cloud without his sleeve fighting the SHM or Sephiroth? Yeah, so that's why I think it's more likely a flashback.

As for Aerith's line, I think it's some point where Cloud's battling and about to lose. Maybe he has a brief encounter with her for a few seconds and draws the necessary strength from that to finish everything off. Or maybe, like one of my friends said, she's coming to take him away.

*plots on how best to kill Cloud with Andina*

Cloud's not wearing his sleeve when he battles Sephiroth, and he's wearing the pink ribbon. Marionette caught the pink ribbon in a screen shot from the last trailer:

That's from Marionette's post here, in the thread about the last trailer: http://s8.invisionfree.com/Cloud_x_Aerith/...topic=674&st=30

EDIT: Now this is strange - in the sequence where Cloud is "climbing" the buildings with the two swords on his way to fight Sephy, he is wearing the sleeve. I caught that while taking random screenshots from the trailer:



Why is he wearing the sleeve in this screenshot and not wearing it in the other? These must be sequences from different battles, and Square just spliced them together for the trailer.

its not a tear, its the white materia when it felt in the water, at the place where aeris was killed. Its just shown to another perspective... :D and cloud didnt touch his arm because he is too sad...

a friend told me, when we see cloud with his sword, that he did not say:

i decided i must life for you..

he said:

"i will revenge your dead...but i have not time..."

I don't know.... the backgrounds looks too similar. Maybe Cloud's velocity was so fast that the sleeve just ripped off and floated away. :blink: Added drama effect, maybe to expose the pink ribbon. :D

Someone, I think it was Clorith said that the sleeve was blown back by the wind when he was flying and that exposed his ribbon.
That makes since I don't think Cloud would take off his sleeve in a fight with Sephiroth that wouldn't be very "badass" of him. :lol:

Hmmm... I guess that makes sense. But here's another pic from Daeya.org where he's "climbing" the buildings with his swords before fighting Sephiroth, and he doesn't have the sleeve on here, either:



In the larger version of the pic, you can see some pink on his left arm which may be the ribbon.

I swear these scenes will make me faint. I am loving how all these little touches Square is putting into this stuff just means so much. Whether his sleeve is blown back or taken off just to show the ribbon, there is obvious symbolism in it. Otherwise Square wouldn't have put it in. I love how they work. :lol:

But these scenes will probably be some of the said revisions they were making. So I'm sure it will be cleared up by the time the movie is released.

That's probably the reason for the conflicting scenes. I wonder if they did a few things like that during the film festivals to keep us guessing? They only had about a month to put a 25 minute trailer together for the first film festival. I wonder if they just used whatever they had to make a 25 min. trailer that would be interesting to a film festival audience without worrying about how accurately it portrayed the actual plot of the movie? As I understand it, their main goal at the film festival was primarily to show off their skill at CG movie rendering.

gasp*
Dual Blade Wielder! *coughKH2cough*
heehee

loving the pics alright...

I hope AC will portray Aerith talking to Cloud's mind every now and then, since their meeting on the flowerfield... it'll be symbolic..like Aerith is always by his side, though not physically. ^_^

I'm sure this is how every FF fan feels, but here goes anyway: I'M SO EXCITED ABOUT AC!!!! :D

Being the CloudxAeris fan that I am, I honestly wish Cloud finds a way to bring Aeris back to life in AC so that they can be together; but deep down inside, I get this feeling that something like that probably won't happen. It's Square we're talking about...and if they were to go ahead and end AC that way, it would have been too predictable since it's what most AerisxCloud fans would have been hoping for. Some people would probably even consider it lame...iono...

From what I've seen of trailers, I kind of think that the farthest Square will go with Aeris is to bring her back in spirit form to help Cloud overcome his tragic past and save the world. :( *cries* It looks like Cloud's the only one who can hear her voice, so "Let's go...Cloud..." is probably something she (in spirit form) says when she helps guide him to defeat Sephy and the other clones.

I seriously can't see Cloud and Tifa together. Throughout the game, I got the impression that they were just friends even if Tifa did care a lot about him. So getting back to AC, it'll be a big bummer AND a big shock if Cloud somehow ends up with Tifa. That wouldn't make any sense anyway. I'm pretty sure that Square had intended Aeris and Cloud as a couple even though their growing love had been tragically cut short. I think SE pretty much shows this concept through other games such as FF Tactics and Kingdom Hearts. I'm crossing my finger and hoping that Square isn't planning on dropping a bomb on us all by doing something as crazy as putting Cloud with Tifa. Scary, but it's still a possibility though...you know...one of those "It's time to leave the past behind and move on with life" kind of stories. <_<

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That's what i thought too at first. But now with what Nomura said about pleasing both factions, I'm not really that sure
Ya know, i think they're going to leave the movie open-ended. Will Cloud follow Aeris into the Promised Land or will he stay with Tifa then...

Credits roll

:unsure: :unsure:

If he stayes with Tifa, we'll kill Square. Ookay? ^^

To me, I didn't take Tifa as a 'threat' to Cloud and Aerith's relationship. Even if I hadn't had chose Cloud to be all flirty with her, he didn't seem to be influenced when he was with her like he was with Aerith. He wasn't super kind to her or anything, and he worries/laughs and all first when he met Aerith. So, yeah yeah yeah.
Square would NEVER in their right minds make the ending CloTi. The CloRith, CloTi/other fans are sure to want to have the true pairing solved by now, but the only way Square won't get blown up in the face is for them to hint, hint hint.--again. (-3-)
I want Cloud to die, that's cruel of me and all .. but I'd rather have that then some reincarnation little girl version of Aerith. It's cute but little Aerith can't be with Cloud, hopefully Square woudn't do something like that. When I played FFVII, I had the impression that Tifa was Barret's wife or something, they looked real close. Cloud and Tifa never had this bond thing going on, but Cloud and Aerith seemed to be able to read each other or something like that, and that's special.
Or maybe the ending will show smth like after Cloud+others (Aerith's spiritual form) helps his save the world, Aerith dissapears once more
they'll show him crying (hopefully) smiling, and saying "I'll continue to search for the Promised Land.. because" .. blah and blah. Well it's not entirely Clorith, but it's leaning towards it. Tifa smiling, "I'll help you"
~Whee, an FFVII ending. Can't repeat that, can't they? Yeah, my rambles are weird. Or FF8's? Instead of Squall getting lost in the white whitish place in the ending, we'll put Cloud in that position.--And then he sees light, beautiful music, == end!

We can trust the Japanese since they feel so strongly about their culture, besides there's only one soul mate a person, and Cloud's one is Aerith. The past isn't just the past, memories aren't just memories, there's way more than that. Cloud woudn't be the same Cloud if it weren't for Aerith. In Cloud's point of view, he feels like he owes his life to Aerith or whatever. He'd never be satisfied if Aerith forgave him simply, he's not that sort of person. And if he went with Tifa, Aerith will be sad. Then Cloud is gonna have to owe her more XD yeah, sorry .

I think Square's already done enough of the hinting stuff: FF Tactics and Kingdom Hearts. Anyone with a mind should have already figured it out by now...if not...they're probably never going to. I really think it's about time they drop the hints and focus on what they really want to happen.

I second that. I never saw her as anything more than one of Cloud's good companions. They were never even true childhood friends to begin with. Unless the player chose to be nice to her, Cloud was pretty much unemotional around her.

:lol: Now that you mentioned it...it does seem like Tifa's a lot more closer to Barret than even Cloud...interesting...

Hey, me too! I had the impression that they were married and that Marlene was their kid.
The first time i encountered her, i thought "Ah, so she and Barret are husband and wife and they own a bar and run AVALANCHE together" :lol:

I hope so. I really hope so
I can't imagine how the Clotis would react if that happened :rolleyes: