Hi, guys!! :lol:

I saw the film "Million Dollar Baby" yesterday, and this topic just came into my head while I was seeing it... A lot of people think that only because the main theme of AC was "survival", Cloud and all the people infected with Geostigma have neccesarily to live and were healing O.o... But I disagree with this ¬¬...

1_SE said the main theme of AC would be "survival", not "healing"... Survival is harder than healing...

2_Survival doesn´t mean live... When you see a documentary, the animals fight for their survival. It means eat (for the predator side) or be eaten. The animal which is eaten, before of be haunted, it runs away, it fights for his survival, but it doesn´t mean that it have to live... If the predator haunts and eats it, bad luck, but this haunted animal has fought for his survival... It´s a survival theme, that it means to one person/animal/whatever it was don´t letting die himself, just like Cloud is doing at the beggining of AC (sorry for the example, and it´s my opinion ^^U)...

3_Other example is die with "a complete life"... If Cloud dies at the beggining of AC, it would be in a depressing state, without fight... It wouldn´t be a "dignified death" U.U... On the other hand, if Cloud fights, he maybe dies (and perhaps it´s what Cloud wants...), but he dyes fighting for him, the children and his world... Like a man said in the film of yesterday, a lot of people die thinking "I haven´t had my opportunity", but some people can die thinking "I think I have done well ^^"...

In my opinion it would be the main theme of AC or, at least, what SE want to say about that (although maybe I will be mistaken O.o). Not "life" like main theme, but "don´t letting myself die" or "die with dignified"... In FFVII the main theme was "life", and the best demostration for that was Aeris death... Aeris died because another people can live... And the other main theme of AC is "save the children", not "save Cloud" ¬¬... I think the children will live because they can´t decide their destiny, after all ^^UU...

It´s all... I put this theme because a lot of people think survival=life, and some Clotis use it as an argument for say that Cloud will live and he will move on with Tifa... Maybe it will happen (I hope not!!!! O.O), but at least they could take another argument for it...
Sorry if I have written very much and for the posible mistakes U.U

As others have said, just because the theme of AC is survival it does not mean that everyone will be alive by the end of the film. The theme of VII was life, yet Aerith died. Whether she meant to or not, she died to protect the life of the planet, to make sure others could live. With AC, it could be the case that Cloud dies to ensure that others survive. Maybe he'll save the world and cure Geostigma, but he himself will still die?

Maybe Cloud won't die. Maybe he'll live and be happy with Tifa or whoever, or maybe he'll walk off into the sunset alone. But that's not to say there isn't a chance he will die. From what we've seen, he doesn't seem too concerned with his own survival. Before the film is released, all outcomes can be considered a possibility. We can speculate all we want, but we can't be sure of what will happen. But the bottom line is: Cloud's death wouldn't contradict the theme of survival, as some claim.

I'm not sure what you were told in Spanish, Aerith-kun, but we were told in English that the theme of AC is Survival. We discussed that to some extent here: Survival, the theme of the movie.

Your points are well taken, though. Just because the theme of the movie is Survival doesn't mean that Cloud will survive. As Madame Batolli pointed out, the theme of FFVII was Life, yet Aerith died in it. Sakaguchi wanted that in the story because death is part of life.

The same with Survival. Who survives and why? Not everyone survives a catastrophe or disaster. What are the elements of survival? What has to be sacrificed in order to survive? What is the cost of survival?

All of those ideas may come into play during the movie, so there's no guarantee that Cloud will survive. He may very well give his life for the survival of the Planet, especially since he thinks he is going to die from Geostigma anyway. Wouldn't it make sense that if a life has to be given, that someone with a terminal disease would be the one to volunteer?

The theme is definately survival. And just like FFVII's theme was life, I am sure Square will present both sides of the theme, the losing part and the succeeding part. If everyone survived, the theme wouldn't get across as well in my opinion.

That and the theme doesn't only apply to Cloud. It applies to every character in the movie. People like to forget this.

Thank you for the advice, Anastar ^^... My level of english is so bad U.U... Well, I will change the words for a better understanding ^^ and sorry U.U

No worries, Aerith_kun.

Your English is actually quite good, and you made some very good points in your post! We agree with you that the theme of the movie doesn't mean that Cloud won't die, too. :rolleyes:

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I was confused at first but I'm glad you guys cleared things up. :P

Survival...


better keep that in mind... :lol: