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Title: Atonement
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Coral - January 24, 2008 05:21 PM (GMT)
I just saw Atonement yesterday and I'd like to know who saw the movie or who read the book by Ian McEwan.

What did you think about it?
Just for information: the movie won two Golden Globes - best picture and best music; and it has seven nominations for Academy Awards.




Logirithm - January 25, 2008 06:19 AM (GMT)
How could this movie win awards with Keira Knightly in it?

Keira Knightly is an ugly piece of shit actress. She makes any movie horrible to watch. :aeris:

Damaged - January 25, 2008 07:01 AM (GMT)
Well, the troll said that it wasn't good because it has Keira in it and that just makes me want to see it more. I've always liked her. Dunno why, but anyways.

What exactly is this movie about? I just want to know so that I can get a general idea about it.

Coral - January 25, 2008 11:17 PM (GMT)
Here's the trailer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATtSfe_DaJU

In the 30's. Fledgling writer Briony Tallis, as a 13-year-old, irrevocably changes the course of several lives when she accuses her older sister's (Keira Knightley) lover (James McAvoy) of a crime he did not commit.

I would say it's a very moving and romantic movie above all.
Actually we don't see Keira Knightley's character very much...
James McAvoy has a playing full of sensibility, he's incredible.
The music is love, some scenes have incredible rhythms.

This movie is about imagination, war, passion, lies and redemption...a very strange movie actually.

That's why I'd like to know what you think about it.

I'm sorry, my english is so bad, I can't tell much more for now...


Clorith - January 27, 2008 12:42 PM (GMT)
Oh I just saw it today! The ending was so sad! :sad: What her sister said about writing a happy ending for them are my thoughts exactly regarding Cleris fanfics, btw! :D

Coral - January 31, 2008 05:35 PM (GMT)
Loool thank you Clorith, though this could be a spoiler... :P

I think ........I'm "James McAvoy-ized" now, I just watched "Becoming Jane" XD
(Ooooh the ball scene.)

He's not the typical handsome guy but he's very charismatic!
On the top of that, "People" wrote he was the 5th sexiest man alive, before Johnny Depp :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

Cordy - February 23, 2008 09:20 AM (GMT)
I watched it with my friends, and we didn't like it. And two of my friends fell in love with James McAvoy in Being Jane. Now, one of them even said "No matter how much facial hair he has, he still looks like a seven year old." :giggle:

And you really REALLY come to hate the little girl, no matter what she tries to do to "atone" herself.

Clorith - February 25, 2008 04:04 PM (GMT)
Lol! Maybe I should go get "Becoming Jane". XD But my Future Husband Shrine™ is a really crowded place, I'm not sure I can squeeze one more pretty in. XD

Oh, I thought the actress that played the little girl was amazing, though! Pity she didn't win the Academy today. :)

Coral - February 25, 2008 10:57 PM (GMT)
I can't resist...here the Ball scene from Becoming Jane.
BUT don't look at it if you'd like to be surprised while watching the movie:

http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=DDqZsNV_7bY&feature=related

I also found Cecilia and Robbie's meeting from Atonement (in the café):
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=A0zQJumvou8&feature=related

Argh it's useless...we can't help but try polygamy Clorith! :lmao: so many gorgeous actors in the world!

About the movie Cordy: why didn't you like it? Maybe because it's a tragic, awful story or because it was boring or something else?

The little girl didn't win but she has time. Atonement won the best music award though. I think it was well deserved.

Cordy - February 26, 2008 02:08 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Coral @ Feb 25 2008, 10:57 PM)
About the movie Cordy: why didn't you like it? Maybe because it's a tragic, awful story or because it was boring or something else?

Well, it was a little boring, and it seemed so unfair for Robbie and Cecilia, and it was all because of one incident caused by misinterpretation. :(

Rikkulicious - February 26, 2008 03:20 AM (GMT)
I saw the movie a while ago, it was... alright. :sweat: In the beginning it was really good and kept me really interested, but then, it just.... fell apart. It was no longer entertaining, intriguing, or funny. By the middle I was just waiting for it to be over. It was just too much beating me over the head with the 'ITS SUPPOSED TO BE TRAAAAAAAGICCCKKK' thing. However, the clothing, rooms, and scenery were amazing. Also, I just adored the youngest version of Briony, she was just so awesome. Although, yes, you feel like slapping her once you see the one dude getting taken away.

Coral - February 29, 2008 10:11 AM (GMT)
Well I agree with you. Not really about the "alright" part lol but I think it's a kinda disturbing movie. But maybe it was made to be so...

The main actor thinks Briony should burn in hell for what she did lol! Even if in her mind she wasn't lying. She just didn't understand what was going on, thinking that Robbie was a danger for her and her sister. Maybe she also wanted to be the center of attention for once.

Anyway...What do you think about Keira's green dress? I think it's gorgeous...

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~Fury Brand~ - March 1, 2008 02:34 AM (GMT)
I never ending up hating Briony at all. She was just a little girl. If anything it was the fault of the adults for not explaining things to her when she found them in the library and also not for being patient with her regarding her crush on Robbie. I also thought the scene between her and the dying soldier was very sweet. It made me cry :cry:

Me and my mom saw the ending regarding Robbie coming though Cecelia's was a shock.

Cordy - March 1, 2008 02:48 AM (GMT)
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I never ending up hating Briony at all. She was just a little girl.


Yeah, her imagination ran wild, but to me she just kept adding fuel to the fire herself.

I think I felt the strongest point of hate was when she rushed home and opened the letter. :no: And then, instead of going to an adult, she speaks with her friend!!

~Fury Brand~ - March 1, 2008 07:47 AM (GMT)
That's typical little girl behaviour, to share things with your bbf and though Lola wasn't that, she was the only other girl around (on the subject of Lola why an innocent like Briony is being hated on when there is a child molester like Paul Marshall around is beyond me ;p) :P Briony did give the letter to an adult after she had opened it and again her fears could have been allayed by the adult.

She shouldn't have opened the letter in the first place no but then Robbie shouldn't have typed such a ridiculous thing in the first place either. Nobody's perfect.

I don't hate any of the characters (well the child molester yes but having been a victim of that myself I know not to let it destroy me and instead of hate think about concentrating on the things I enjoyed instead) *shrugs*

Coral - March 1, 2008 10:29 AM (GMT)
:huggle:

Me love you. You're serene and sensitive from what I just read from you.

Back to the subject. As Robbie said later "don't you have any conscience or something at 13?". She was afraid but she lied. She said she saw them and that it was Robbie. She really lied.
Of course she was young but it was a serious case. She only continued to be the heroin of her world for once. "Yes, yes that's him. I saw him. I'm sure of it."

And showing a letter to an adult? Who? Her mother? Her father? Maybe cousins...did Cecilia know that Briony read the letter? I don't think so - and I wouldn't explain myself such a thing to a little girl if I was in her shoes (only IF Briony didn't read it). It's still so embarrassing.
On the top of that we're in the 30's. Maybe it wasn't that easy to explain anything about sex to a 'well-born' 13 years old girl...

Nobody's perfect...but what a shame for Robbie though. It was just a young man's fantasy...he wrote it for fun...every man in love thinks about it (well I guess lol).
The one I especially blame would be Cee's mother. I understand her reaction. But maybe she was glad that her daughter couldn't have a chance to love a "poor" like Robbie? She didn't ask anything to Cee or Robbie about that letter.


(sorry for spelling!)

Rikkulicious - March 1, 2008 08:12 PM (GMT)
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Me and my mom saw the ending regarding Robbie coming though Cecelia's was a shock.


Ditto completely.

And although I wanted to slap Briony while she was watching Robbie getting taken away, I did feel like they were being too hard on her. Especially in the one scene where she sees Cecilia and Robbie again and they're yelling at her, I remember thinking ' :sweat: Geez, give her a break!' But later it seems to make sense, since she made that part up herself, she must've felt like she deserved them acting like that towards her?

Coral - March 2, 2008 10:23 AM (GMT)
In the book they yell at her but at the end of the conversation Robbie says "Do as we told you, okay?" in an almost quite tone. Like the beggining of a forgiveness. T_T

Give her a break? Lol spending 3 years in prison for sexual crime when you're innocent and then go to WWII while you could have been a great doctor, marry a beautiful woman you love, live an quiet life, make your mother happy and so on?

From Briony's point of view well...I understand how guilty and useless she must felt. And why she imagined that.

(sorry for sp)


Rikkulicious - March 2, 2008 05:18 PM (GMT)
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Give her a break? Lol spending 3 years in prison for sexual crime when you're innocent and then go to WWII while you could have been a great doctor, marry a beautiful woman you love, live an quiet life, make your mother happy and so on?


:( But it's all apart of a wee todd did misunderstanding. That's what makes it OMGSOTRAGICKS.

Coral - March 3, 2008 12:44 PM (GMT)
But the question remains... Do we have any conscience at 13? Can you go in jail only because of a little girl's lie? I think adults used her lie actually. That the three of them are victims...

And thinking about it there's more than the whole tragic thing in this movie. It moved me for several and different reasons (the atmosphere first, soldiers's love at war, writers' imagination...)

I even wonder if the Café scene is real...How could Briony know anything about her sister's life after her departure? Maybe they never met again and Briony invented a meeting between them?

What a weird movie :lmao:




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