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Title: What If Cloud Were A Girl?


Rinchan - December 2, 2007 09:00 AM (GMT)
Ok I know we have the what if Cloud were a girl and Aerith and Tifa were boys?

Well this time let's just make Cloud a girl and leave everyone else's gender the same. :)

So how would the relationships have been different?

Would FFVII have been a lesbian love triangle? XD

What would femCloud's relationship with Zack have been like?

What would femCloud's relationship with Tifa have been like? With Aerith? With Barret? With Yuffie? With Sephiroth :o?

What would have been her motives for joining Soldier?

What about her childhood in Nieblhiem?

What about the promise scene with Tifa?



I guess I would see femCloud as being the awkward girl in Nieblehiem. She doesn't have any friends, but she wants to be noticed by Tifa's group so she could one day be in a group of friends.

She tries to join Soldier because she feels that will get her noticed. At the promise she tells Tifa what she's going to do, and Tifa jokes that if she's ever in trouble that she should come and rescue her. FemCloud takes this seriously.

I rather her relationship with Zack be a brother/sister relationship, with maybe femCloud having a slight crush.

Upon going to Midgar and joining Avalanch, she meets up with Tifa again and has the whole delusion that she was Tifa's childhood friend in the past, but can't help feeling awkward around her.

She meets Aerith in the church, and Aerith becomes her first real friend and the only person she really feels comfortable around.

I'm still trying to decide what her relationship would have been like with Sephiroth...

Oh and the Clerith and Cloti debates would become "Aerith was femCloud's BFF!" No! Tifa was femCloud's bff! They were childhood friends!" XD

Clerith-son - December 2, 2007 09:17 AM (GMT)
If Cloud would've been a girl FFVII would have been and RPG Nanoha.

QUOTE (Rinchan @ Dec 2 2007, 04:00 AM)
I rather her relationship with Zack be a brother/sister relationship, with maybe femCloud having a slight crush.

Are you joking? XD If Cloud would've been a girl, and she'd met Zack, she wouldn't have been a virgin by the beginning of FFVII.

Lynn - December 2, 2007 09:47 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Clerith-son @ Dec 2 2007, 09:17 AM)
QUOTE (Rinchan @ Dec 2 2007, 04:00 AM)
I rather her relationship with Zack be a brother/sister relationship, with maybe femCloud having a slight crush.

Are you joking? XD If Cloud would've been a girl, and she'd met Zack, she wouldn't have been a virgin by the beginning of FFVII.

TOTALLY. QUOTED. FOR. TRUTH. AND WIN. SO MUCH WIN.

QUOTE (Rinchan)
She tries to join Soldier because she feels that will get her noticed. At the promise she tells Tifa what she's going to do, and Tifa jokes that if she's ever in trouble that she should come and rescue her. FemCloud takes this seriously.

Man, I can so imagine this scene happening in a yuri anime...

I don't think femCloud would've joined SOLDIER, though. (Are there any female SOLDIER characters that we know of?) And this in itself may drastically change FFVII. The SOLDIER institution in the game seems very masculine-oriented. The only "idols" from SOLDIER are Sephiroth, Angeal and Genesis (and later Zack :lol: ). And considering how young Tifa talks about being saved like a princess, I have a feeling the FFVII world is generally quite traditional with its expectations of males and females.

(And that makes Aerith's independence, Tifa's martial arts training and Yuffie's ninja patriotism all the more striking, but that's going off-topic.)

Significantly, the Turks have lots of female members. But I don't think femCloud would've had the correct work ethic to make it to the Turks. (And she's too damned moral, however emo she gets.)

With such traditional expectations of females (i.e. the guys go out and work while the girls wait for them in the back-water village), would femCloud have left Nibelheim at all? I suppose, if she had been more tomboyish. Alternatively, she could serve as the guide for Zack and Sephiroth when they go to Nibelheim. She would've been left alone for most of her childhood, and perhaps spent that time exploring the mountains and becoming a real expert. And Tifa's dad would've been more than happy to let the outcast lead the SOLDIERs into the mountains rather than his precious daughter.

Hojo kept all the living residents as experimental subjects, IIRC, so that solves femCloud's five-year experiment. How did she survive? Eh, let's say she's just special that way. :P

She reaches Midgar and... oh god. She meets Tifa and Aerith, and they form YuRiPa ver. 2. fkg;dkflkgs (I'm sorry, I'll think about this more thoroughly later XD)

Would there have been a LTD? Nope. Nope nope nope. Not because it would've been yuri and people would've been omgyuck, but because yaoi/yuri supporters seem to care less about "canonity" and all that crap.

Clerith-son - December 3, 2007 03:13 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Lynn @ Dec 2 2007, 04:47 AM)
Are there any female SOLDIER characters that we know of?

Rosso and Shelke were Tsviets, and they were women, no?

QUOTE (Lynn @ Dec 2 2007, 04:47 AM)
She reaches Midgar and... oh god. She meets Tifa and Aerith, and they form YuRiPa ver. 2. fkg;dkflkgs (I'm sorry, I'll think about this more thoroughly later XD)

CoAeTi... Oh no...

QUOTE (Lynn @ Dec 2 2007, 04:47 AM)
Would there have been a LTD? Nope. Nope nope nope. Not because it would've been yuri and people would've been omgyuck, but because yaoi/yuri supporters seem to care less about "canonity" and all that crap.

You'd be surprised, believe me.

Lynn - December 3, 2007 04:42 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Clerith-son @ Dec 3 2007, 03:13 AM)
Rosso and Shelke were Tsviets, and they were women, no?

Gah, I forgot DC! :ow: Okay, female Tsviets exist. I'm guessing Tsviets are the SOLDIERs who'd been buried underground when Meteor hit?

Still, though, the world-wide famous SOLDIERs are all guys. At least on the outside, it looks like a no-girls-allowed zone. I suppose, being the main character and all, femCloud would be special enough to want to join anyway.

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You'd be surprised, believe me.

Yeah, true, I guess. My own experience has been that yuri/yaoi-supporters just don't care, but there's always the people you don't meet... :shifty:

Tifa Lockheart - December 3, 2007 06:53 AM (GMT)
There is actually a doujinshi that turned the entire cast into their opposite genders.... but it's an adult-only story. :blush: It basically delves into the "what if Cloud is a girl, Aerith is a boy, Sephiroth is a girl, Tifa is a boy, yadda, yadda, yadda...what could have happened, how things would have turned out, etc."
Interesting illustrations but not recommended for the squeamish and for Mary Sue-haters. :P

QUOTE (Clerith-son)
Are you joking? XD If Cloud would've been a girl, and she'd met Zack, she wouldn't have been a virgin by the beginning of FFVII.
I just smiled when I read that.


Like what Lynn pointed out earlier, your statement wins. :winner:
Makes sense knowing how Zack is. :yummy:

Furthermore, from what I can imagine, if Cloud turned into a woman and the rest of the cast remained the same, there would be more SephirothxCloud, CloudxZack, CloudxRufus, Cloudxevery single male you can think of. And Yuri.

And considering that Tifa or Aerith didn't turn gay on the female Cloud, who would their "love interests" be? Aerith might even get angry at Cloud for "stealing" Zack or something like that :dunno: As for Tifa... more controversies arise!

But that would make a funny yet interesting fic, though. I wonder if anyone can give a shot at that. :lol:

Pyra Kurai Akaidra - December 3, 2007 10:03 AM (GMT)
Ah, yes. The familiar 'What if Main Character was opposite gender?' idea, familiar but not quite reach cliche` status like, say, the Veela Draco fics in HP fanfiction.

QUOTE (Clerith-son)
Are you joking? XD If Cloud would've been a girl, and she'd met Zack, she wouldn't have been a virgin by the beginning of FFVII.

:lmao: <-- All you need to know.

The whole Fem!Cloud idea is interesting, just wondering if anyone can pull it off successfully.

Would there be a LTD? I'm with the 'Screw canon! Let me enjoy this!' shippers. Also...if ONLY Cloud's gender was changed, the Love Triangle will be extend to include Zack and Sephiroth. Y'know, in a estrange, soap opera-ish SephZacCloAerTi mess. :lol:

Vincent would still keep his thoughts on Lucrecia, but would still give advices. Barret is Barret, Cid would still cuss, regardless, Red XIII would be amused and Yuffie...well, she'd be annoyed.

MistaCloudStrife - December 3, 2007 12:35 PM (GMT)
Cloud's Mom: My, how you're grown. I'll bet the guys never leave you alone.

Cloud: …Not really.

Cloud's Mom: …I'm worried about you. A girl in the ShinRa military… I'd feel a lot better if you just settled down and had a nice boyfriend.

Cloud: …I'm all right.

Cloud's Mom: You should have…an older boyfriend, one that'll take care of you. I think that would be the perfect type for you.

Cloud: ……I'm not interested.

Cloud's Mom: I heard that Zack person is older than you. *wink wink*

Cloud: O.O;
___________________________________________


But seriously. After the real version of that scene, I don't think it's really a coincidence that Cloud's mom says...

Cloud's Mom: You should have…an older boyfriend, one that'll take care of you. I think that would be the perfect type for you.

...and it fades out, and when it fades back in, the location is in Aeris' house showing two separate rooms in birds eye view. One with Cloud laying down in bed in one room and Aeris(Who's older, duh) sitting on her bed in the other room.

Of course it's Cloud's mom's words,(Of course the creators of the game made her say it though. =P ) and doesn't give solid rock-hard undeniable proof. :rolleyes:

Clerith-son - December 3, 2007 06:46 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Tifa Lockheart @ Dec 3 2007, 01:53 AM)
Furthermore, from what I can imagine, if Cloud turned into a woman and the rest of the cast remained the same, there would be more SephirothxCloud, CloudxZack, CloudxRufus, Cloudxevery single male you can think of. And Yuri.

And considering that Tifa or Aerith didn't turn gay on the female Cloud, who would their "love interests" be? Aerith might even get angry at Cloud for "stealing" Zack or something like that :dunno: As for Tifa... more controversies arise!

I didn't mean Cloud would turn into an ero-game main female character who goes around with every single bishouen in the game (I know this because... you know... "The moar you know"). Cloud was really close with Zack, and admired him. Zack was close with Cloud, and cared for him. Now, take Cloud and make him a girl - hell, he already looks quite girly, so BINGO! Eventually Zack would fall for the shy girl that tries hard, and that he keeps on protecting.

Aerith and Tifa would probably take the place of Cloud's friends. They give her tips about boys, and encourage her to achieve her goals. Unless Squaresoft would have wanted to go for the fan-service and made them love interests. We had a date with Barrett, and the whole deal with Dio in the real one, no?

QUOTE (MistaCloudStrife @ Dec 3 2007, 07:35 AM)
But seriously. After the real version of that scene, I don't think it's really a coincidence that Cloud's mom says...

Cloud's Mom: You should have…an older boyfriend, one that'll take care of you. I think that would be the perfect type for you.

I see what u did thar.

MistaCloudStrife - December 3, 2007 08:58 PM (GMT)
Oops, my bad. ^^;;

I just copied and pasted without thinking.

Rinchan - December 4, 2007 03:06 AM (GMT)
I wonder how the GS date would have worked out?

Perhaps it would have just been a hang out?

Something would have to take the place of the play.

Oh I know, a three way fight for Zack's affection!

Zack was Aerith's first boyfriend and her first love

FemCloud had a crush on Zack while working with him in Soldier

Tifa fell in Zack when she gave him and Sephiroth a tour of Nieblhiem.

So the three girls have a fight over who Zack loved the most.

Oh and we have to have this dialogue

Tifa: Cloud, Did you sleep well last night?
Cloud:
Choice 1: Barret's snoring kept me up all night
Choice 2: Next to you? How could I!

For some reason, when I think of FemCloud I get the image of Lightning from XIII...


Suigetsu - December 5, 2007 05:40 PM (GMT)
well I think we may be able to find that officially by SE, I mean the heroine of FF13 its a female version of cloud.
Dunno about the other chars tought.

AerithGainsborough - January 20, 2008 10:01 PM (GMT)
If Cloud was a girl..........hmm wow I dont know lol
i dont wanna think about it either xb :sad: :ermm: :puke:



Oddishness - January 21, 2008 03:37 AM (GMT)
I WOULD SHIP HIM WITH AERIS TWICE AS HARD.

Damaged - January 21, 2008 05:22 AM (GMT)
That is just a creepy question... O.o

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What would femCloud's relationship with Tifa have been like? With Aerith? With Barret? With Yuffie? With Sephiroth ?


I think femCloud and Aerith would make great friends. Just think about how they are normally. Tifa on the other hand, I don't know. I'm not trying to sound mean at all, but with Tifa's past to normal Cloud, then we might have problems. Then again, who knows? They might end up being friends.
A friendship with Barret? I don't know about that either. Same goes for Yuffie and Sephy. I can see femCloud jumping to save Aerith before she died though. Aerith needs more positive attention than what she has now! ^_^


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Would FFVII have been a lesbian love triangle? XD


With some people out there now-a-days, I can see a LLT starting if this were true.


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What would have been her motives for joining Soldier?


Maybe she would want to be different. I mean, you have Tifa, who was in the eye of every male in the village. So it's either be like that, stay in the house, or find some way to leave that boring lifestyle behind. If femCloud is anything like the normal Cloud, then she would find a way to be in SOLDIER.


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If Cloud would've been a girl, and she'd met Zack, she wouldn't have been a virgin by the beginning of FFVII.


That is SO true! I couldn't see anyone hanging out with someone that good looking for so long without something happening.

icor - January 21, 2008 05:33 AM (GMT)
I once read some really, really hot girl!Cloud/Aerith fic, and it was awesome.

...

If Cloud were a girl, I'd like this pairing even more.

Inuyatta - January 21, 2008 08:30 AM (GMT)
Strangely enough, I agree with this. And it would be hot. XD

Of course, this is coming from me, whose answer to Cloud/Vincent/Sephiroth is Aerith/Tifa/Cissnei.

SERIOUSLY. THE WORLD WOULD IMPLODE AT THE EPIC HOTNESS THAT WOULD BE THIS GORGEOUS OT3.

</rambling>

Kaleta - January 21, 2008 04:35 PM (GMT)
HOMG! xD lol! That would be so cool! xD haha!

I think if Cloud was a girl, she would be trying to fit into Tifa's group in Nil. (like already said) but for some reason, i cant help but think Cloud and Tifa would be rivals in a way?

But about the whole LTD, i dont think its wise to have one if the Main characters were all girls xD




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