~ Beware of my poor vocabulary or grammar, I'm sorry for that, but I hope you understand what I'm trying to say..

OK, this just for fun, nothing serious, I'm just feel boring lately :D

We all already knew that coincidentally, Aerith's CG art and Cloud's CG art (both from AC) were so alike, but with opposite direction..


They were so compatible especially when we focusing on their faces..

If we look closer to their face.. Hey, they were so alike, you know, both are bowing head, and eyes staring on floor, I guess :P

What is so interesting is SE always made Aerith and Cloud are so compatible with each other, but/and opposite in nature, in this case; direction, style (and apparently the looks on their face as well).. The true symbolically Yin-Yang maybe..
_________________________________________________________________________

OK, don't you spot the similarities in these two CG arts?

1)Both were holding up/showing off their weapons(considering Tifa's glove is weapon)
2)Look at their back, Tifa's hair and Vincent's mantel are both waved, right?

Another pair:

Hey, they were both posing in same style and direction! And look closer to their faces:

They were similar, both were like staring to the floor, while slightly turn their face to the side..

Well, maybe these were stupid, but fun to think like that sometimes :D

A great way to look at these CG arts, Sha. :)

I was also thinking about how Cloud and Aerith were positioned in their own versions. It's very symbolic, so to speak. :P

While this is rather interesting I think it is all a coincidence. :( I don't think SE would do something so pointlessly vague.

Done on purpose or not, I still think it's interesting. They do seem to compliment eachother. I always thought the way their CG arts were positioned was adorable.

It is rather interesting. Cloud and Aerith always seem to be in a similar position. The closeups would make excellent avatars.

May just be for fun but its some pretty good points :)

I agree with like everyone it is really interesting to look at them as if it is like they are complimenting each other... because even though they are facing off to the side you can still see the front of their bodies (unlike Tifa and Zack even though they are facing the side its from the back) but Yeah its a cool way to look at it as if they were designed to compliment one and other :)

Hmm, that's interesting. This would never work as proof or evidence, but it's you've some good points. There's a chance it's a coincidence, but I'm leaning more towards the notion that it's not. I remember listening to the AC staff saying that when creating AC, a character's position and gestures were very important - not just to add on to detail in general, but as symbolism. This was a long time ago that I've heard it, but I remember hearing something along those lines. And even if it's not, I bet if you ask anyone who's well-knowledged in films will say that the way a character is positioned is very important in the scene - that very few things are set up on coincidence.

BTW, where was this art from? I remember seeing in the book, I just need a link to the thread of the scans...

hmmmm.. I don't think that I've explained my thoughts very well, but I'm glad that you understand where I'm going to.. :huggle:

The connections between those CG arts aren't hard to found though, but when I'm trying to make a connections between those arts and other arts, it's not working.. That's why I posted here, to know if anyone think about this too.. Hey, it's not proofs or anything, but still interesting, right? (Anyway, after I'd analyzed all CG arts, I'm leaning towards HEY,IT'SMAYBEPROOF!! too, 65-70% maybe?)

Some could be found here..
http://z8.invisionfree.com/Cloud_x_Aerith/...?showtopic=5787
Aerith's could be found here..
http://z8.invisionfree.com/Cloud_x_Aerith/...opic=7407&st=30
Some could be found here..
http://z8.invisionfree.com/Cloud_x_Aerith/...opic=7322&st=90
Some could be found here..
http://z8.invisionfree.com/Cloud_x_Aerith/...?showtopic=7245


And in case if anybody don't have the close-up pics of every CG arts, here's the can's covers(?) with detail, whichmeans from which title of compilation its from(this is where we know Aerith's was from AC):
CLOUD FFVII, CLOUD AC
AERITH AC
ZACK (younger) CC, ZACK CC
SEPHIROTH AC
TIFA FFVII, TIFA AC
BARRET & MARLENE AC
YUFFIE FFVII, YUFFIE AC
VINCENT DOC
CID AC
RED XIII & CAIT SITH AC
RUFUS, RENO & RUDE BC
ANGEAL & GENESIS CC
~Urgh.. They are so small.. Hey, wait a minute.. Where is Barret's? :angry:
Source:http://www.suntory.co.jp/softdrink/potion/vol2/

sha:

Yeah, it's not serious but tooooooooooo much fun!!!!(*hug sha and drag her to dance)

Aha! hone you're not alone! I'm such a big boring CXA fan here and luve every slightest "thread"/fandom stuffs about this paring, chasing after super-biased CXA info like a idiot. :blush: Anyw, it's all for fun, right? since you've noted at first so I think it's Ok to babble everything we feel for this cute comparision~ :gift:

And indeed, great job, sha! I always love the way they face to each other from the first time I saw Keldea's work in an amazing picture(*totally switch into Clertih mode), not mentioning the potion commercial, that's completely fan-service everytime I caught C/A's CG art~ :cleris:

Like what PinkRibbon said, leaving all fandom povs aside, I believe a pro film maker would think it matched if they plan to make some CG posters for propaganda.... :fangirl:


Thanks for sharing, sha hone!! :huggle:

Thank you - you're wonderful for going for all that trouble. :huggle:

I do wish SE would share more about what they were thinking when they're drawing the character in certain poses...

I so know what you mean, sha. :huggle: I just love how Aerith and Cloud's CG arts compliment each other's so beautifully. Simply put them next to each other and you already depict them leaning on each other's foreheads, hehe. Ah, it's so adorable! :3 And the calm looks on their faces, the way they gaze... I know I may be looking into this just a lil' too much, but I can't help but express such love. :blush: Seriously, Aerith's new pic just begs to be manipulated next to Cloud's. :lol:

I mean, hey, it's not a crime at all to fangirl and share interesting thoughts on CG artz. <333 It's awesome to have fun with your pairing, 'specially since this is a C/A forum. Hell, I do it all the time when the intarwebz is not serias buzns. ^^; Only talking about canon stuffz can be quite boring.

(Also, about the yin-yang: they really do seem to balance out. Aerith looks quite content, simply sitting down, whereas Cloud is standing with a melancholy look on his face. On the Z/T note: both Zack and Tifa seem to have worrying/complicated expressions. Their eyes don't stare directly at the floor, but more... elsewhere. Their stances are also very strikingly similar ((backs on the camera)), like WHOA THERE, so thanks for pointing that out, sha!)

Another opposite-direction C/A pair, woot ^_^:

Just for fun, another Vincent and Tifa similarity:


Heh~ x)

*Hug Lydia and dance with her*, you're welcome, Lydia hone :huggle:

:huggle: You're welcome.. Yeah, me too.. We can actually put some CG arts together, and make a story from them.. Seriously :o

You're welcome.. You know, you make that comparisons even more beautiful with your beautiful explanation.. Thank you :huggle:

SEE.. Woah, Amazing! Thank you for pointing that out, True Serenity :cleris:

This topic getting more interesting.. Maybe they have some connection/similarities?

Here's an idea. They are looking away because they are shy and quiet and they have been hurt by unrequited love? Any truth here?

I wish we had someone who knows a lot about symbolism in Anime/films around who could give us their opinion on the positions and expressions of the characters.

As for my opinion... let me give it a shot... Aerith is smiling gently, and looks quite content. Her position is relaxed and comfortable. This tells me that she is confident and secure.

Anyone else want to try the others? C'mon, just for fun... :P

Teehee~~I love fun!! OK! here's mine:(switch on Clerith mode) AC!Cloud seems burdened by some unbearable grief, so he looks down, deep in thought. But other than that, I think he's missing somthing or somebody: he's eyes aren't simply gloomy, but similar to that when he meets Aerith in the flowerbed..... :cleris:

Tifa's face looks being troubled by something but she's not that depressed, more like determined(or maybe her eyebrows make me think this way... ;) ) Tifa's CG picture and Cloud's are different in some points.

:lmao: Lalala~so much pointless fun! X)

Cloud looks like he's considering something and something is still weighing down on him. Aerith looks kind of wistful--perhaps she knows she's being thought of, but she's a little sad because memories of her also bring pain? Or perhaps because she's somewhat separated from her friends and Cloud (guilt is an effective barrier to her, no?).

Tifa looks a bit resigned to me. Zack is the one who looks determined, going by the expressions of their eyes.

I'm guessing none of these pictures are supposed to be Post-AC? XD

Kadaj's pic isn't here but I thought it was pretty telling that he was the only one looking up: he had everything going for him in the beginning of AC, he was stronger and younger and much more motivated.

Whereas AC!Tifa's pic looks pensive (her face is posed straight and steady and wanting to face the future, but her eyes are downcast and revealing a burdened two years).

And AC!Cloud is totally down in the dumps, not even trying to hide it. :lol: Everything, from his posture to his eyes to his hair (compare his AC pic to the CGI of FFVII!), all falling down under an extremely heavy weight.

Aerith's pic actually feels very mysterious to me, full off conflicts. Maybe it's because she's in such a solemn pose, yet there's something casual in the way she rests her hands; there's the same gloom that pervades much of the other AC pics, yet there's a smile in there too. And her long bangs hide her green eyes, one of her most expressive and recognisable features; and maybe there's an irony that one of the most expressive FFVII characters is virtually unreadable.

And something bothers me about Cloud's FFVII pic. It's in the way he stands, maybe-- everyone's in some sort of recognisable pose, but FFVII Cloud is standing so... generically. And stiffly. There's a blankness in his pose and face, kind of reminds me of his blank past in the game. I actually think his AC pose showed more emotion, because you try to reach into his FFVII pic and end up scraping your knuckles against a brick wall.

I agree! I love Cloud's AC pic to death. He seems to show so many emotions in just that one shot. He seems guilty, a little lonely, and filled with sorrow, very much reflecting his feelings in AC.

Looking at both Aerith's and Cloud's cg arts more, I really think they fit eachother more than any other two.... Since Aerith is sitting in her shot, and Cloud's eyes are cast downward, it's almost like he's looking down at her... :whistle:

I think this is my favorite pic of Zack. His younger self seems hopeful, from the way he looks up, and determined to me. Unlike his other shot, the one with the Buster sword on his back, where he seems more melancholy.

...I also think AC!Cid looks just awesome. I love the way he sits there with his spear, eyes downcast, just waiting for something to come... Almost like a sense of foreboding. Unlike most of the others, I don't get the feeling he's depressed in his pic. He seems more weary to me than anything. And I'm kind of suprised, if not glad, he doesn't have a cigarette in his hand.

Wow, that's very cool and insightful! Gives a lot more depth when looking at each individual character. I also agree that many details on a character's art portrayal is very important and intended--usually it would be enough for a viewer to analyze certain, essential characteristics by just examining their overall models. They were totally meant to say something from face to posture, especially the FFVII/AC ones. So I'll go give it a try. :3



AC!Tifa Lockhart

I used to tend to have mixed thoughts about Tifa's picture when deciphering her 'exact' expression, but Lynn totally owned the analyzation (as always~ hehe)--thus I am enlightened once again. <3

My initial thoughts were these: when looking at her stance, it's quite easy to capture a sense of great strength in her character. She appears to look stable and ready (sorta similar to this AC screenshot, but much calmer/settled), yet there seems to be a conflict present by just reading her face. The way her eyes (and eyebrows?) are downcast, like she has obtained some uncertainty, and her lips with less energy... There's something in her mind while her body remains sure and prepared. For example, if you were to cover her face and only look at everything that follows, not only would you fanboy but magnify a strong, fearless woman. The thing that seems to be thrown into the mix is the contrasting feeling behind her face. ~feels a little redundant bc 'tis a bad explainer >_<~

I wasn't exactly sure what kind of feeling was supposed to be conveyed--either melancholy, worried, etc.--but what Lynn said makes perfect sense: Tifa has complicated emotions while trying to face the future. Ready, but something about her is either misunderstood or burdened by the past/past two years. A good summary of her pre-AC feelings depicted. In a way, it kind of reflects a bit of 'maturity' for me as well, in contrast to all her other FFVII artz (including her CG pic in the 10th Anniversary gallery).

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

FFVII!Tifa Lockhart

Tifa here is very, very expressive--more straightforward. Her eyes are set on her gloves of destruction (not really destruction), her stance is, again, stable and determined, and the position of her arms and hands seem to be where the message is highly concentrated. Clearly every detail about this picture leads to one interpretation: Tifa Lockhart is pretty darn fierce and READAY. <3

I also get the particular sign of 'independence' here, as well as her AC one.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Aerith Gainsborough

Although I feel that Aerith's CG art is one of the more expressive of the bunch, I can't help but obtain a mysterious feeling about what she's thinking and what sort of situation she's in, like Lynn. The fact that she's simply sitting seems to be the nature of her simplicity and, uh, spontaneous cuteness, I guess. :3 However, her head is casted downward, perhaps revealing a past full of misfortune or tragedy, but her face says something different. She's smiling through it. She looks down but smiles, reflecting how she has always approached various situations in FFVII and Advent Children. Also like what Lynn said, her bangs seem to be hiding her eyes--one of the most signifying features of all FFVII characters. My interpretation is that it leaves the feeling to see more of her, such as the time when Cloud turned back to see her face in AC. Or it possibly foreshadows something unique about her. (It just adds on to the mystery.) As for her hands... I just love how they're like that. It's very elegant, all I have to say. x)

The pinkness, at least, gives one away: Aerith's quite feminine and such. Hehe. ^_^ Besides the fact that Square had no choice but to make her wear those clothes because omg, that's her original and signature outfit used in FFVII/AC.

~will probably edit her Aerith explanation later 'cause TS just sucks @ explaining~