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Title: Why Do We Need A Remake!?
Description: This is rediculous!


NekoDono - October 19, 2007 09:33 PM (GMT)
I don't understand why so many fans want a remake. This is foolish! It's great to love VII but I want to move on to better things and for SE to STOP milking it! Besides, the rest of the compilation has already ruined VII for me. Pimp!Zack, the changes to the events in Vincent's past, the army of new turks, etc. Doesn't anyone else want to let this end? :cry:

Zydalia - October 19, 2007 09:39 PM (GMT)
I support a remake because I can't find a copy of FF7 anywhere. Maybe if they rereleased the original that would be fine too...but I'd like to get some of my friends into it too.

It just isn't appealing for people nowadays and I would love to see everyone in modern graphics.


EDIT: You're number 961 and have 961 posts, awesome!

~Fury Brand~ - October 19, 2007 10:29 PM (GMT)
Well no offense but probably because it isn't about you xD

I also think it's unfair to bash Square Enix because it was the fans that pushed them. They kept saying no but people kept asking for new FF7 projects. It took a very long time for them to decide to do it. They were afraid to because some people had very fond memories of the game and though lots of people wanted new stuff SE thought it might be like opening a Pandora's box. Even now that they have went ahead with fan wishes of new material the team is being very cautious - they are always putting little playback features on their scans as if to say see there there is the scene from the original game so we have been paying attention to it - studying every little detail xD. They have put a lot of hard work, time and effort into this and for this team at least I think it is very much about pleasing the fans and members of the team too being involved in such a big project and the whole awesme atmosphere about rather than just the money :)

::CloudSmiles:: - October 19, 2007 10:41 PM (GMT)
I could really go either way when it comes to a remake. It'd be nice to see the original game in updated graphics, but I'm still happy playing my copy for the PS1.

I am a really strict when it comes to the canon events in the game, though. If they did come out with a remake, I would only want to see the original game in new graphics. No new added characters, scenes, or anything. Period.

QUOTE (NekoDono)
Besides, the rest of the compilation has already ruined VII for me. Pimp!Zack, the changes to the events in Vincent's past, the army of new turks, etc. Doesn't anyone else want to let this end?


I'm with you there. I'm not very fond of the compilation. SE has milked VII to death. I really didn't think they needed to make an entire compilation of the game. I understand that it was done because the game was so popular {and they're after money}, but IMO, VII was a great game to begin with, and was fine as a stand alone game. I really wish they'd just end the compilation already. <_<

But I do kinda think a remake is headed our way wether we like it or not. CC was made to make players want to play FFVII, and they've already gone and screwed VII over with the compilation as it is, so I don't see anything stopping them from going ahead and giving us a remake.

~Fury Brand~ - October 19, 2007 11:04 PM (GMT)
So all the clerisness from Advent Children and the novellas, etc you'd take it all back if you could?

Just a question.

Since for me it was the compilation that really brought Cloud X Aerith home for me and enhanced it. I started seeing a whole new world and lots of points that I'd missed from the original game :blush:

Also for quite a few people I think things like Case of Tifa helped show them the unhealthiness in a Cloud/Tifa relationship and how different it was to Cleris and perhaps converted some people :yes:

Edit - Plus we wouldn't have all these hawt new art works :P
*just was reminded my beautiful CG images of Cloud and Aerith on forum banner*

::CloudSmiles:: - October 19, 2007 11:23 PM (GMT)
FB, did you mean me?

Whatever; I'll just say this anyway.

I thought all the Clerisness that was in the compilation was great. But I certainly didn't need it to show me why I love Cleris. I thought it was canon since I first played the original game, and while everything we were shown in the compilation was great to have, I don't need it to reinforce Cleris.

As far as I'm concerned, the compilation was just extra goodness, everything that was needed to make me believe Cleris was canon was in FFVII. Which is what I meant in my other post. I didn't think it was necessary to have the entire compilation, but now that we have it, there's not much I can do about it. It's fine, and further endorses my couple. I still wish they'd end it though. I think it has gone on long enough.

PinkRibbon - October 20, 2007 12:43 AM (GMT)
I do think we could have dropped some of the titles from the Compilation - it WAS almost as if they were milking all for its worth to the point where the quality of the plot was not as good as it was in FFVII. However, FB makes a good point: many fans did want the extras and the spin-offs and the prequels - initially, at least - and so SE took advantage of the situation and gave it to them.

I'm only for a FVII remake - it's hard to resist the high quality graphics (did anyone see FFXIII? *drools*) - only if, A) Mena Suvari either starts to voice-act better, or get another VA, B] the plot is unchaged, C] update and improve their translations, but the meaning is still there, D) fabulous VAs for the English version. I'd actually like it if they did a recasting of most of the characters' English VA, but that's not going to happen. In that case, of course, I'll just learn Japanese and have the Japanese version imported.

But as :::CloudSmiles says, "...it was canon since I first played the original game, and while everything we were shown in the compilation was great to have, I don't need it to reinforce Cleris." Word.

FF_Goddess - October 20, 2007 12:57 AM (GMT)
I guess I can see both sides of the argument. On the one hand, I don't really want a bunch of weird crap thrown into the original FFVII story (e.g. Genesis, the Deepground Soldiers). The original was enough to convince me that ClAeris was the OTP. IMO, the game was very ClAeris, but on the other hand.... My ClAeris side goes all wibbly when I think of all the pretty graphics and all our pretty ClAeris scenes being remade with those graphics. Just imagine an FMV of Cloud landing in Aerith's flowerbed... :cleris:

True Serenity - October 20, 2007 01:33 AM (GMT)
Like FFG, I can understand both sides, but I'll have to go on the remake since I just love the game alone so much. With pretty, updated graphics, AC-like FMV's and such is all, as well as voices--no thanks to changes and added confusion like Genesis, etc., pweez! >_<

(Btw, I am replaying FFVII at the moment. :wub: I just love it. I finally got my PS2 to work, yo.)

The FFVII Compilation has made VII its own little world; seriously, it's so apart from the other FF's! :lol: The story just keeps getting developed while the rest of the FF chain is quite simple when compared. Perhaps this whole thing gives FFVII its "independence" since it has so many fans.

Alantie - October 20, 2007 01:59 AM (GMT)
I'm completely for a remake, as long as they keep the plot unchanged. ^_^

I want a remake for several reasons. One, I would absolutely die of happiness to see all the Clerith scenes in FMV with CG graphics, updated music, and voices? It would just be awesome! Plus there are so many people who just can't play the original VII- I got lucky. My uncle was getting rid of his old PSP games, and my brother spotted VII in the mix and rescued it for me, so that's the only reason I got to play the original. Otherwise I would have had to rely on KH and the Compilation of VII for my Clerith love. And wouldn't that be a horrible tragedy?

Can't you just imagine the things we could do with a remake? We would have so many more beautiful graphics to work with, and more clips of Aerith to use for vids. It also could clear up a lot of the issues we've been arguing with Clotis about for years- like whether or not Cloud was upset when Aerith died, and the whole Highwind scene. With better graphics, there would be some things that they just wouldn't be able to deny anymore. Not that I think SE will lay out anymore hints to the LT than they already have, I just think that they'll show things in a clearer way with the better graphics. (For example, we won't have any more Anti-Aerith people saying that Vincent hated Aerith and was dancing/stomping on her when she died >_< )

I honestly don't see anything wrong with doing a remake as long as they stick to the original game. No weird additions, no going off on random tangents. Just the game updated. :D

Though I can understand why some of you are so opposed to the remake. I'm worried too about them doing something horrible to it, but until it's done, we can't say how bad or good it'll be.

FVII I think has more fans than any other FF game out there, so it makes sense that they would try to cater to these fans and give us more to love. It simply has the best plot line, and the most wonderful characters. I got FFXII for Christmas last year, played it, and liked it, but it was no where as deeply engrossing as VII was to me. *shrugs* That's just my take on things. :)

aerithlove527 - October 20, 2007 02:41 AM (GMT)
I'd love a remake, too. Although I know exactly how you feel, NekoDono, it's not simply money-issue that SE concerns, I think more and more new gamers get to know FF7's world without playing the Game first. It's VERY annoying to me, at least, cuz those young players dunno what's so importance of it and simply give commends they like(comparing FF7 with other FF series, and LTD...*faint) I mean, while almost all SE's games are made in awesome graphic skills, I dun think all younger gamers wil find the patience or interests in playing FF7 with chibi characters and voiceless progress.... I'm not saying ppl who haven't played FF7Game are not qualified to claim themselves fans, but I've met tooooooooo much careless young fans who got all FF7 info from forums or websites, giving hillarious commends to FF7, and choosing side in LTD...(*sign)
Remake is not necessarily gonna ruin the original Game, I think fans all know it too clear that everything stands cannon only based on the Game, not a remake. Well, I can expect a war over FF7G vs FF7G!R even after the Remake releses in the future... :ermm:



PS: Actually, the last part of the interview in UB shed some lights on Remake...do you think I should trans this part too? There's no C/A involved but I do think SE made a good point here.

MistaCloudStrife - October 20, 2007 02:45 AM (GMT)
I want the remake dammit!

I can see how S-E is milking money with that Polymorphic crap as a cover but, I've always wanted a remake after stuff like FFX came out. To me it isn't fair how FFVII was the first Final Fantasy to go 3D and then became the FF with the crappiest 3D graphics. Plus, almost all of the older FF games already got their remakes. Yeah, almost all of them were only better sprites and backgrounds, but hey, they DID get remade. Even FF3 and 2/4(?) are going to be fully 3D soon.(Well 3 already is)

But yeah... We don't NEED a remake just like we don't NEED any Final Fantasy game. But the thing is, imo if we were to put up a vote, there would probably be more people wanting an FFVII remake rather than a future numbered FF title.

And I'll bet my left hand that an FFVII remake would sell more PS3s than FFXIII and VsXIII put together.

Lynn - October 20, 2007 04:55 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (aerithlove527 @ Oct 20 2007, 02:41 AM)
I'm not saying ppl who haven't played FF7Game are not qualified to claim themselves fans, but I've met tooooooooo much careless young fans who got all FF7 info from forums or websites, giving hillarious commends to FF7, and choosing side in LTD...(*sign)

This would likely be one of the reasons I'd support a remake: to make the game accessible to newer fans. Nowadays when you talk about "FFVII", the first thing people think about is the bloody movie which is in every way subpar compared to the original game. >_< NO, THE GAME CAME OUT FIRST, THE GAAAAAME.

marcus_v3 - October 20, 2007 06:29 AM (GMT)
I want a remake for 2 reasons: #1 It'd be so AWESOME :woot: to see it with AC like graphics and all the cutscenes would be great since they'll have voice actors. #2 I only played the game once and it was like years ago. My psx got busted and Disc 2 and 3 are pretty much scratched like hell ever since my classmate borrowed them from me :cry: (that's the last time I ever trust him with any of my stuff again <_< )

As long as they don't change the storyline than it's all good. although they could add some more mini games and a few more cleris scenes would be awesome :cleris:

Kaldea - October 20, 2007 06:59 AM (GMT)
I explained why I would enjoy a remake in another thread. I don't think we need a whole new one for this topic. D:

And Zack was always known as a ladies' man. Even since the original. CC didn't reveal anything different about that fact.

Hades' Daughter - October 20, 2007 07:32 PM (GMT)
I guess we're dealing with two things in this thread: remake and the compilation? I don't care either way about the remake. I'm certainly not begging for it, but if it does come out, I would most likely end up buying it simply because my FFVII game is now broken. Actually, I am pretty much planning to get another game, remake or not. It's really not about the graphics for me. I grew up on old-school rpgs, and despite their plain graphics, I still favor them over the newest games they have out there these days.

O, one more thing...if they're doing a remake, don't be expecting everything to remain the same except for the change in graphics. I'm 99 percent positive that's NOT going to happen. :razz:

PinkRiboon:
QUOTE
But as :::CloudSmiles says, "...it was canon since I first played the original game, and while everything we were shown in the compilation was great to have, I don't need it to reinforce Cleris." Word.


I completely agree with this too.
I mean, if the Compilation was giving us clear-cut answers, it would be a totally different story. However, since it's NOT but simply pushing that stupid "think of it however you want" idea further, I don't see a need for the Compilation. Everyone got what they wanted from the original game. The end.

I do, however, feel that it's not SE's fault they're such cash-whores. Fans are to blame. If people would stop supporting the compilation, they would stop continuing it. Simple as that.

Er...so...should we combine all these "remake" threads then? ^^;

PinkRibbon - October 20, 2007 08:35 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Lynn @ Oct 20 2007, 04:55 AM)
This would likely be one of the reasons I'd support a remake: to make the game accessible to newer fans. Nowadays when you talk about "FFVII", the first thing people think about is the bloody movie which is in every way subpar compared to the original game. >_< NO, THE GAME CAME OUT FIRST, THE GAAAAAME.

Agreed. The new gamers are all about graphics or special effects or action stuff, as opposed to the plot. >_<

QUOTE (HD)
O, one more thing...if they're doing a remake, don't be expecting everything to remain the same except for the change in graphics. I'm 99 percent positive that's NOT going to happen.

I'm sure about this too, but still, there is that 1% chance...

I certainly don't want most of the Last Order changes incorporated into the remake. Or anything else. FFVII was a masterpiece by itself, it doesn't even any more additional plot changes or info to make it "better."

QUOTE
Er...so...should we combine all these "remake" threads then? ^^;

Merge ahead!

Lynn - October 20, 2007 10:02 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Hades' Daughter @ Oct 20 2007, 07:32 PM)
Er...so...should we combine all these "remake" threads then? ^^;

*nods enthusiastically*

If we can find all those threads.

Ehehehehehehe. Meeeeerging.... Forum housekeeeeping... *rubs hands together in gleeful, Hojo-like manner*

Hyper-Ballad - October 21, 2007 12:41 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Lynn)
Ehehehehehehe. Meeeeerging.... Forum housekeeeeping... *rubs hands together in gleeful, Hojo-like manner*

Lynn: Official forum "Monica". :wub:

Anyway, my once-and-for-all opinion on this is that even though I thought the original game was great and that characters, plot, gameplay, soundtrack etc are all far more important than cool graphics (which is why FFVII is every bit as awesome today as it was 10 years ago), I'd still be very interested if a remake was released. However, if it incorporated all the crack retcons featured in the Compilation, my head would explode with hate and the rest of me would move away to an alternate universe where the entire Compilation never existed (or happened to FFVIII instead). :razz:

So, to sum up...

FFVII: Super-special as it is.
Cool updated graphics: Awesome, but not the alpha and omega of good games.
Retcons: It burnsssssssssssss! *hiss*
FFVIII: I wish this could be retconned... :sad:

aerislives - October 25, 2007 12:58 PM (GMT)
being the square fanboy i am i would support a remake and do at the moment but please if they wont do that at least put the original back in circulation it's getting very hard to find mabye not on the net but there's people like me who don't buy from internet sites it would cost square about $2.00 a disk to recirculate and could easily sell for $15.00 but would sell for full price just as easily.

thats my point though dosent hurt anybody and everyone wins




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