So…it seems that everyone in the world completely despised this movie…except me XD They look at me like I’m crazy if I say “Come on…it wasn’t THAT bad!”


SPOILERS BELOW!





...and IMHO, it wasn't! Plot was lackluster, I know. I just didn’t feel threatened by Sandman, like I did with Green Goblin and Doc Ock. “I just want to heal my daughter and I’d do anything...”, c’mon, we see that situation on Smallville all the time! And Venom, one of the scariest villains I ever encountered in a cartoon, wasn’t onscreen enough to freak me out. The transition from wisecracking busybody Eddie Brock to evil sharptoothed baddie was way too abrupt. Yeah, I know it was ‘cause he got a full dose of the black gook, moreso than Peter…but still not a perfectly good plot device. :whistle:
I think they also overdid possessed!Peter, he was more emo than evil(the dancing, the hair, WTF?!), though I did think he was perfectly villainous in the scene where he beats Harry up.

…still, despite the holey plot and deus ex machinas, I liked the movie. :P It didn’t fail to give the franchise’s trademark humor(Mr Jamison, lol) and melodrama. I felt more sympathy for MJ than ever--- lessee, she got fired; can no longer act as a rock to her superhero boyfriend; said boyfriend suddenly starts acting like an ass; got manipulated by a former friend; got captured and almost-killed again---is there anything that doesn’t happen to the poor girl? And I liked Peter’s whole forgiveness/revenge issue as well, and the twist on Uncle Ben’s real killer.
What stood out for me was Harry Osborn’s descent into the Dark Side. Heh, evil scriptwriter, turning Harry sweet and gentlemanly for a while, before making all hell break loose.(Me: “Light Yagami, is that you???”) And the way they set us up thinking “Shit! Three villains!”, before turning around and making one of the ‘villains’ team up with Spidey after all...I thought that was cool. Lotsa fanboys are complaining that it wasn’t comics consistent but I thought the Goblin!Harry+Spiderman vs Sandman+Venom Fight rocked. Harry and Spidey tossing each other up storey after storey reminded me of the AC Bahamut SIN fight XD
And yus, I did cry when Harry dies in Peter and MJ’s arms, with the sunrise in the background. I knew it was coming but pre-movie, I expected him to be killed by Peter for the common good and all that. Did NOT think he would team up with his best friend, and get stabbed in Peter’s place :cray:
What I disliked was the lame plot device with the butler knowing ‘bout Norman’s self-inflicted death all along. Fweh. Would have preferred another Harry vs Norman verbal duel, this time with Harry coming out the victor, and THEN going to help Peter and MJ.

All in all, I thought it was a decent enough movie. Definitely, it did not live up to the first two(*wags finger at director*), however, I don’t think it deserves to be placed among the likes of Electra, Catwoman or (for those who hated it)X-Men 3. And unlike X3, at least there's still room for a sequel.

But what did everyone else think? Feel free to rant about/discuss the movie here! :P

Part of the real problem is, Peter was acting like an ass before the symbiote even got to him. He made SEVERAL poor decisions and the symbiote had nothing to do with it at all. A little forethought would've served him well with MJ.

The most obvious of which:If you must kiss a woman in front of a big crowd, KISS THE RIGHT ONE, dumbass!

Well. I kinda liked the movie too Kusari. XD In my opinion, the beginning was good, but then it kinda fell apart at the end. Seriously - Spiderman gets a big head. I found it rather funny actually. :P Eddie and Harry were great in the beginning too - Eddie being a total annoying prick and Harry suddenly transforming into Mr. No-More-Revenge Guy. :lol:

Sandman was one of the biggest flaws in the movie though. :/ Annoying story and guy, as well as the strange I'm-against-Spiderman-but-OH-WAIT-I-decide-to-fess-up-and-suddenly-I'm-off-the-hook-ness. >.O One of the parts that ruined the ending.

Although now, I'm rather sad that Harry died... >_> The hottest guy died! Damn! The whole best-friend-trio is gone, which was one of the strongest parts of Spiderman. Pretty much every scene with Harry and Peter getting along was sweet - a nice heart-warming kind of sweet.

Rawr! I hated that. When he was telling Harry what he knew all along I was pretty much yelling, "SO WHY DIDN'T YOU SAY THAT BEFORE?!?!?" >_<

All in all, I think Spiderman 3 was okay. It's not something I'd watch again and again like the others but... meh. It was okay. I just hope they won't make another sequel...

Hah, I saw this move Thursday night at midnight with some friends (it's a wonder I managed to get to school the next day with only three hours of sleep. XD) What I was impressed with in this movie was that even someone like me, who has only seen part of the first movie, never seen the second one, and never read the comics, could follow the plot very well. That, and Emo!Peter amused the hell out of me. I so wanted to rewind and replay his ZOMGHAIRFLIP! like 800 times. :lmao:

Still, despite all that, I sort of liked the plot (*nerd*). It did maintain a very strong comedy/drama balance, albeit predictably. But I really really wanted Peter to propose to MJ on the damn web (only watched one of the movies and I'm already digging the pairing- though I was sort of rooting for Harry/MJ during the middle due to Pete's asshole-ness. XD). It would have been romantic to emulate his aunt and uncle's looking-up-at-the-sky proposal in that way, but I have to admit that it was sort of a classy move on the writer's part to omit the proposal altogether- it really did keep that tragic feeling following Harry's death intact, which was nice. ^_^

Anyway, overall the movie was okay. I don't quite know if it was worth nearly passing out all day long at school, but I did enjoy watching it. :lol:

Bah! I LOVED it! I loved the goofy comedy, I enjoyed seeing Spiderman FINALLY get some appreciation! And I really felt sorry for Sandman, I personally felt like he was very sympathetic, but I was disappointed there was no closure for him at the end.
And I was really hoping to see Peter's proposal tooooo >.<
Hee, I loved Emo!Peter, he cracked the hell outta me. I loved the part where he's strutting down the street and gesturing to all the women

Didn't like it. I thought it was a mountain of cliches topped with fanservice. Alot of the acting I liked though... I mean the acting that WASN'T corny that is.

*Bumps head* "Oh hey Pete. We're friends again."

"zOMG my grandfathers killer... AGAIN!"

"OnoZ My daughter, I gotta do bad stuff to get moneys."

"Aw I got fired so I have to work at a Bar"

All of it has been done... If not for all the action and choreography the movie would have been a complete waste of time imo. Yes, 2 on 2 super hero/villian fighting is cool, but 3 villians in the same movie just takes away from the individual villians. I mean come on... how much time did Venom get in the movie? And Eric Foreman! Eddy Brock is supposed to be an Athlete... not Eric Foreman.

Spiderman3 was awsome!!
Seriously, i was like that the endge of my seat the entire time!

xDD

Funny how Toby Mqguire is only like 5 foot 1 in real life. :o

what does that mean again?
:sweat:

SPOILERS


Harry dies but Gwen Stacy, who dies in the comic books, lives. Well, I think he died in the comics as well so it isn't that far off base. I was little set off by their choice of actor for Eddy Brock Jr. (Remember, you're dealing with a Spider-Man comic buff) I would have appreciated them sticking more to the comic book's time line. Such as, in the first movie having Gwen Stacy and her death at the bridge. (The scene where MJ falls off the bridge is an homage to Gwen Stacy's death in the comic books) They also made another refrence to the death of Gwen Stacy in the first movie. At the end, during the Goblin's funeral, you see a grave marked Stacy. I thought that it was supposed to lead me to believe she had passed on already but it seems that isn't the case. Plus, they can't really "recreate" her death now because it was the Goblin who killed her. (The Goblin and The Hobgoblin aka New Goblin are both dead) And I have to say, when they changed up who killed Peter's grandfather I was POed. I think the fact that it was a common, everyday robber had a MUCH larger impact than their edit. I have a BAD feeling that if there is a Spider-man 4, Felicia Hardy is gonna make an appearance. She was a poorly construed character as it was and if they put her in the movie....UGH! If I have to put with her "Black Cat" crap, I'm gonna hurl. Spider-Man had too many girlfriends over the course of his long run with Marvel. Another problem I had is Peter came off a lot more...evil in the movies. The comic books always portrayed him as naive and ignorant rather than bitter and power hungry. His dancing with Gwen in front of MJ was very "unpeter" of him. I think it is interesting the way they changed MJ and Gwen's roles. In the original "The Amazing Spider-Man", MJ was introduced as a rival to Gwen. i. e. She came AFTER Gwen Stacy did in Peter Parker's life. Marvel started to notice MJ's rising popularity over Gwen and thus she died. In the movie he used Gwen Stacy as a petty vengeance on MJ. Big difference. (I liked how Gwen apologises to MJ. She retained her sweet essence.) Volume #1, book 27 of 1987 shows Mary-Jane and Peter wed and his leanings toward retiring the super hero persona. Will the movies portray it propperly? Their marriage happens shortly after the "clone saga" which they may or may not bring to light in the movies. We'll have to see. I remember that is was during that time he started wearing his black suit again. This worried MJ. She feared a Venom "relapse" and made him change back.

SPOILERS END

Sorry about my long Comic vs Movie rant. Like I said, I am an avid lover of the comic books and don't want to see my beloved Spider-man get trashed.

I can forgive what he does under the Symbiote's influence easier then I can forgive what he did when the symbiote isn't an excuse. Many, many unwise decisions made before the suit becomes an issue.

Me and my friend laughed through the whole movie, since Spiderman's actor looks exactly like our ex-history teacher! :lol: The dancing thing in the Jazz club was hysterical! Just thinking of our teacher doing that an being an emo. :lmao: I'm not much into these superhero movies, but I think Spiderman 3 was okay. ^_^

Don’t forget the pelvic thrusts *dies*

I liked that too! I mean I never encountered Gwen in the cartoon(the only smidgen of Spidey I ever saw before the movies came), but I’m glad they didn’t make her a nasty girl stereotype.

Hee! I was never quite sold on movieverse Peter/MJ, up till the end of the second movie(Loved her “Go get ‘em, Tiger!”). But here, I thought the initial look-how-in-love-they-are scenes were *sweet*. When she’s singing on stage and he’s mouthing the words to her, and when he proudly tells a random guy “That’s my girlfriend!”…aw!. And I loved the kiss on the web.
…but then after he gives away ‘their kiss’, I thought “Jerk!” :whistle:
And Harry was such a sweetheart and has those cheekbones, and full lips, and gorgeous smile, that I can’t blame MJ for confiding in him instead! I gotta say, when they’re making omelette and Harry’s shaking his booty(:giggle:), I also couldn’t help rooting for Harry/MJ!

Am not sure how I would have incorporated a proposal scene. The surprise element is already taken away, MJ’s already seen the ring. I agree with Luna, maintaining the tragic feeling was a good move. Notice how they are both still teary eyed, in the final shot at the bar :sad:

I’m glad that the people of NY have truly embraced him as their hero…but it did give him a big head :whistle: Spiderman festival, yes, that’s cute, NY, but gawd Spidey, did you have to be such a ham? You’re a superhero, not Barney!
All in all, I liked persecuted!Spiderman better, because it makes it all the more poignant when the people defend him against all odds. The train scene in Spiderman 2 is one of my faves, when they see him without his mask and realize how someone just like them has been their defender all along.

Oh, and Wintercream, IMHO means In My Humble Opinion :P

I thought it was lovely movie. The character's where pretty cool, and I ADORED when Peter went with the Emo hair. GAWD. xD HAWT.

I was seriously crying at the end. I don't know why, I just found it so extremely tear jerking. Maybe because I thought Harry was sexy, probably.
I loved the part where Spiderman is about ready to die, and Harry comes help him out. Seriously, that was touching. :'[

To be honest, I didn't really want Harry to die. I thought he should of had more story, and I think by killing him off was a bit disappointing.

One thing I must say.

STOP. REVEALING. PETER'S. FACE.

Stop making his mask break in the exact same spot. Enough. It's NY. Like, everyone knows who he is. It's not even a secret. UUUUGH.

He does have this annoying habit of taking his mask off, doesn't he? Letting MJ see is one thing, random people on a bus...is something else.

Uhhhh, to be fair, the mask was only accidentally removed on the train.
I actually really like the scene where they 'bodysurf' him over their heads and he has no mask on. :P
Was not so hot about the scene in Soiderman 1, when the people throw stuff at Green Goblin and yell at him for hurting Spidey. 'Twas like something out of the cartoon!

No, second movie was...okay. It was an accident or whatever, fine. But he takes it off like 5 times in Spiderman 3 and it's getting kind of ridiculous imo.

He only takes it off in private though Zelda. I don't remember him ever taking it off around other people.

The thing is, there's various cameramen on the scene of the fight. Tons of people saw him on the train in Spiderman 2 (and maybe onlookers as well). He takes the mask off in broad daylight on a rooftop in NYC in SM3. Aside from the fact that someone was bound to see him (and possible blab) in these situations, it completely breaks the illusion. He's a superhero, there's a reason he wears the mask. It would be like Batman constantly taking off the mask and cape - it breaks the illusion since Batman and Bruce aren't really the same person. Putting on the mask allows Bruce to become something else - as he said in the movie, a symbol.

/superpowered ranting. XD;

I liked the movie, but I wasn't troubled until now.
*spoilers*
I actually hated Peter when he kissed Gwen in public, c'mon, I would go crying like MJ did if I saw my bf do that!!! Another scene I despised is when he was going emo...and bad...wtf is with the hair anyway. I don't know, I think I'm a sucker for cute nerdy boys.
My friend told me that MJ and Peter didn't get together...uh...is it true? What do you guys think? Did they ended up together? I remember a magazine that MJ wasn't going to be Peter's girl anymore...I think, the ending is a bit complexed to me.

I never saw the film. I'm saving my money for POTC and a TMNT DVD ^^;. My older sister did, though, and it's so witty I just have to copy and paste her words from her blog.



Spider-man 3 is a three-in-one extravanza with action scenes inserted.

Starts as a sappy TV soap (think “Grey’s Anatomy- the Movie”), the main relationship degenerates (even though they really, really luurve each other) because of poor communication.

Middle suddenly morphs into a musical (think “Chicago”). Jazz dancing as a tool for revenge. Black eyeliner, bangs, and sharp black suits symbolize slide towards evil (as opposed to actual acting).

The end becomes “Batman and Robin”, complete with homoerotic yearning and a butler who knows everything. MJ is used as bait (again). Instead of Kirsten. they should have cast a giant worm


Seriously I was laughing my bleep off. XD

But Kirsten is better eyecandy then a worm, so I shall have to disagree with that one.

But as I mentioned earlier, I agree entirely with Resha's comment.

Another thing that bothered me...he was crawling out on buildings and doing that web thing, maskless, some people should've known who Spidey is now.
*a flower grows on top of Resha's head*
So, what does this mean, Alex242? Are you agreeing about the part where I said "the ending is so damn complexed?"

No, I'm agreeing Peter kissing Gwen was wrong, wrong, wrong. ESPECIALLY upsidedown. What the hell was he thinking? He can't blame the symbiote for that, it hadn't touched him yet.

Um, do you guys expect him to be perfect and make perfect decisions? That would make a very boring movie, and he also would be a very terrible character.

x.x ahkei...*feels stupid*

Of course not, Rikkulicious. I just think, it was very wrong and one of the scenes I hate most. Personally speaking. There are scenes that really pissed me off, especially when he got emo (though I found him hawt) and the dancing thing. Maybe because I prefer nerdy cute guys who wears glasses. XD

Don't expect him to be perfect, but any guy with half a brain can figure out to NOT kiss another woman in front of his girlfriend, especially one he plans on proposing to.

I don't expect him to be perfect in any way, but...a little common sense wouldn't kill him, would it?

Alex, he isn't a real person, and characters make mistakes, because then they're criticized for being too Mary Sue or Gary Stu-ish if they don't. And those faults or mistakes they make need to be noticeable, because even Mary Sues and Gary Stus make mistakes, the difference is that they're looked at as endearing mistakes. I suppose his defense could be that he got too caught up in the excitement, wasn't thinking about the situation in a very serious manner, so he really just wasn't thinking enough at the moment. So as a person that might've been the 'wrong', 'dumb' thing to do, but as a character I believe that was a very right thing to do, especially because in the end he seemed to understand the mistakes he made and was sorry for them.

I think of it that way too - the crowd is cheering him on, everyone loves him and thinks he's the greatest, all his past sacrifices to remain Spider-Man look like they're finally being rewarded, and this girl he probably secretly likes a bit is smiling at him and willing to kiss him. I think it's quite normal to get caught up in all that excitement and just have a lapse of common-sense and forget that MJ is there and that she'd be hurt by seeing him do that. It seems really IC for him too, to make that kind of mistake in judgement and forget what really matters to him, especially as the film basically deals with all this power, fame and glory starting to go to his head (kinda a "Spider-Man" vs "Peter Parker" thing). The film had a big message about thoughtless action and how they can come back to bite you later, so kissing Gwen in front of MJ and thinking that she'll just shrug it off ties in with that theme. I think the whole angle of the movies has been that he's a very average, relatable, likeable and admirable guy, but is also a role model who makes mistakes, but learns from them and betters himself as both a hero and a person.

Anyway, I know it's very late to chat about this film, but I think it was the first thing I saw after my last essay was written, so it stuck in my head. :P

Basically, I thought it was okay, but not near the standard of the other two. I think the action was too over-the-top and cartoony, rather than comic-bokkish but in a very grounded way, like it was in 1 and 2. And Venom... *cries* Possibly the best Spider-Man villain out there, definitely the scariest, the one who threatens Peter on so many levels because he's half a product of Peter's own actions and because he knows all of his secrets...and he gets what? Twenty minutes of screentime? WTF? What a waste of an awesome villain... *mourns the movie that could've been*

I think they did well with Harry as the new GG, though. There were moments that were very good (his interaction with MJ was cute and the fight scene between Goblin!Harry and Venom!Peter was brilliant) but his transitions between Good!Harry and Bad!Harry were way too abrupt, in my opinion. And the whole deus ex of "actually, I know he didn't kill your father"...I'm not even gonna say what I thought about that... <_<

What did make everything better for me was GWEN, though. I'd given up hope that she was going to be in the movies, which would've been terrible considering that in the comics she was Peter's first true love (and that the fans are still debating over which girl is the "truer" love, her or MJ). I could understand her not being featured in the cartoons - they'd never have been able to show the woman the hero loves being killed, but to include her and not kill her would just rob her of what made her so memorable and effective - but I was disappointed thinking she'd been forgotten in the films. But, yay! She was included! And the lovely Bryce Dallas Howard played her! And she wasn't portrayed as "evil blonde who wants to steal Peter" but as she always was in the comics - a geuninely sweet and strong person.

I was happy that she wasn't killed yet (though I dunno how they're gonna do it with both the original Green Goblin and Goblin!Harry gone... :unsure:), so I'm interested to see if the MJ-Peter-Gwen love triangle continues to develop, and how.

I'm not at all keen on Movie!MJ though (she's a much stronger and more vibrant character in the comics), so with Gwen on the scene and MJ still not interesting me, I can't help but hope that she ends up falling off a bridge instead... :whistle:

Oh, and I have heard that a Spider-Man 4 is in the works...let's hope that it keeps everything that made the movie good and drops everything that sucked. ^_^

*is also late to the party, but this is why message boards and their post-bumping abilities rock!*

Re: Upside Down Kiss scene-- yeah, it was TERRIBLE, and that's why I love it. :lol: It was a clearly, obviously, explicitly wrong thing to do on Peter's part, and yet he did it anyway (and totally paid the price for that). I think that's the one part in the movie where I really got in the "mood", rooting for MJ (not MJ/Harry, just pissed-off-at-her-silly-bf!MJ) to really give it to Pete after the celebration.

As for a city that celebrates Spiderman? I can deal with that. He'll always have Jameson to hate him, after all. :giggle:

Personally, I think the biggest problem with the movie was Sandman's backstory. I thought re-doing Uncle Ben's death was unnecessary (if not downright tacky) and a waste of time. I wouldn't mind if Sandman had been given another backstory, but them keep Venom outta the movie; or remove Sandman and spend more time on Harry and Venom. My brother and I both felt that since SM2 was a "Peter and MJ" story, SM3 should've been a "Peter and Harry" story-- one in which the main focus is their friendship, with a clear threat from either Sandman OR Venom (but not both at once).

Though I still enjoyed SM2 best, I agree that SM3 isn't Catwoman-level of suckiness. That's just overly harsh.