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xx-Forever-Aerith-xx - May 2, 2007 07:50 PM (GMT)
Ok i didn't know where to post this but i'm getting desperate

I commented on a Youtube Vid

I was expressing my oppinion (remind me never to do that again) and saying how i felt

Me -They were dating thats the point (her and Zack btw) it was in a book (short Story thing :D) that yes she loved him but she loved Cloud more :)
i never seen that scene in the game


When abouts is it?
But yeah her and Zack did date but they were young

Then someone replied -
actually if u pay attention enough in the game it kinda shows that aeris loved zack more, thus the whole date cutscene at the gold saucer when she says "Im searching for you"... then again i guess it can be taken both ways, but still, she only loved cloud because cloud was posing as zack, she never knew the real cloud in the first place


Me - Thats not True she fell for Cloud as in Cloud himself not because he was like Zack and if you pay attention you'll see that and When se says "I'm Searching for you..." She means Cloud not Zack and she also says that Zack probably had someone else i think Yeah she loved Zack he was her first love but the way she feels for him is Different for how she now feels for Cloud u know? (i probably should have stopped lol)

Other Person - she says "Im searching for you" because she knows hes pretending to be zack pretty much, she wants to know him, not who hes pretending to be, and if you pay attention shes a cetra, she can speak to the life stream, she pretty much knows zack would be dead because he would return to the life stream, its a flaw in the game but none the less, thats how it would play out

and also cloud never acted as himself while aeris was alive, only as zack, only after aeris dies does clouds past come to be kno wn to himself and the group


after this there was me probably being stupid lol (but i sed nothing offensive seriously)

Well i then got this message from the person :D

It takes to long posting on someones video so ill message u directly, as i said its a flaw in the game u retard, and for all we know she could be lying, der, u retard, if u could udnerstand anything that ive been telling you you would know that aerith loved zack, not cloud, and she only started too fall for cloud becuz he was acting like zack, cloud was never once himself up until aeris dies becuz then you can get teh flashback about clouds past, thus proving aeris never liked cloud, just who cloud was pretending to be you retard, ha ha, shut you up, dont talk smack if you dont kno whatcha talkin bout =D

and btw, wh dont you go play the game again you idiot becuz u apprently dont pay attention and kno nothing about the game, you should just stop assuming all this shit and just pay attention in the game you gaming n00b cake

What do i do :(

I'm kinda stumped this person is super mean :(

xxxxx

oh also delete this if this is in the wrong place :) xxx




Oh sorry Delete this its kinda resolved sorry :D xxxx

Rikitty - May 2, 2007 08:41 PM (GMT)
First tell them to learn how to spell and use grammar correctly, 'too' is not the same as 'to'.
Tell them book is 100% correct and without a dought prooves that Aerith loves Cloud for Cloud and always will. She laughed with Cloud cried(maybe not in the game, but hey I can't recall all of it I forget, but I'm replaying it) and talked with Cloud, knew Cloud. That if she wants to believe in some silly fairy tale of The dead ending up together in the end, la di da, let her. Because love doesn't work like that. Loves unfair and Aerith died before she got the chance to make a life with Cloud, but she loves, no matter what others think. And Zack knows it too. He's like Tifa(But I actually like Zack and no Tifa) he admitted defeat to Cloud that Aerith loves Cloud and will wait for him in the Promised land as long as needed. Why would Cloud of died over someone he didn't know and didn't know him? He wouldn't. He didn't for Tifa(who he thought hurt). Aerith doesn't love Zack, because her heart remained on Earth with Cloud. If they still loved each other they would have hooked up in the life stream after the two year laps between the game and Advent children, but they didn't. Neither did Cloud and Tifa. It's basiclly the same consept, no one can choose who they love or what kind of love it will be.

Cupid uses arrows for a reason.

Alan Bates - May 2, 2007 09:24 PM (GMT)
Cloud never pretends to be Zack. His memories are a bit messed up, but other than beign a SOLDIER, and perhaps a few visual similiarities, Cloud is a very different person than Zack.

Zack is always presented as a lot more sure of himself, cocky, light hearted and cool, which Cloud is tons more reserved and serious.

Cloud remembers Tifa, Niebelham, and all that. if he was pretended to be Zack, he'd at least deny some of that stuff. He'd try to adopt Zack's past life as his own. At no point does he do anything remotley like this other than say he's a SOLDIER.

He never acted as Zack at all. he was always himself (minus a few memories and an occassional controll by Sephiroth.)

As for Aeris talking with the Lifestream, she mentions herself that it's not always the easiest thing to do, especially in the city, and I really doubt she has 100% first hand knowledge of every single person that dies.

Call it a flaw in the game if you want, but none of the characters are ominpresent. They don't know everything. Aeris probably doesn't even known all the people living in her section of the city, much less anyone that happens to die.

As for what you should do, I've always let the @$$hole have the last word. It shuts them up quicker and they aren't usually worth wasting your time on anyway.

Especially given the average intelligence of most people that leave Youtube coments.

Yukari - May 3, 2007 12:45 AM (GMT)
I can't believe the Cloud=Zack argument is still going strong after it's been proved wrong time and time and time again. Le sigh, I guess there's no getting through to some people. Like Alan said, just let the idiot have the last word. They're really not worth the effort. But if you need any further help to prove that Cloud is NOT Zack in disc one, there's a topic about it here.

About who Aerith loves, seriously, they need to read Maiden of the Planet, the novella focusing on her. It states that Zack was Aerith's first love, and is now nothing more than her very dear friend. I'm an AerithxZack fan myself, but it's obvious with MotP that their relationship is all in the past. Zack may still have feelings for Aerith, since he flirts with her when they meet in the Lifestream, but Aerith tells him that he's too much of a ladies' man to become a real lover. Zack comments that he thought that was what Aerith liked about him, and she says things might have changed in five years. She says that he isn't 'simplistic and awkward like Cloud', and that's his bad point. It even says in MotP that Aerith loves Cloud 'much more than her first love', Zack. Methinks they are the ones who shouldn't be talking 'smack' since they are obviously the ones who don't know what they're talking about. ;)





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