hello I need a little help out there how can u say if :

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cloti-->Compares the compatible relationship of rinoa and squall to cloud and tifa..Tifa's personality is like rinoa and Squall's personality is like cloud (oh, as they just said) But squall and rinoa seems so compatible togather so does that mean that cloud and tifa were also compatible???

4 me-->You know I'm really a cloris fan ^^ And I tried to answer this...Somehow, I defend cloris but I want to hear more accurate answers from you..

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cloti-->They were also saying that tifa's love for cloud is much stronger than with aeris..Just for example, "only tifa would sacrifice herself to save cloud unlike aeris"

4 me--> :angry: well, that was perfectly wrong right? Actually, the whole earth including cloud is the reason why aeris died...But..Again.
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cloti--> When the North Crater was about to collapse, and Cloud could've possibly died, who stayed with him? Tifa did. She could've died, but she didn't care, because to her all that matters is Cloud. She's willing to give her life up for him, to be with him.

But for Aerith, not really. She stood by for what she beleived would save the planet. She was an Ancient. It was her destiny.

4 me-->is that true fellow cloris fan??? :( Anyways,how about this one?
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cloti-->it was Tifa who allowed Cloud, to rediscover himself when he fell into the Lifestream. If Tifa did not understand Cloud she would not have been able to help him during that time. what evidence is there to suggest that Aeris understood anything about Cloud.
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4 me-->And of course this !! <_<

--Last Order:
Cloud: "tifa..my hometown..give them back!!" (I really forgot the first one but I think it's mother.)

4 me--> they said that tifa is along with those three words...He loved his hometown,mother(is that mother by d way?),and tifa is also included in there..Includng tifa with the things that cloud love means that..? He also love tifa?!? :whistle: Well, I have an answer to this but I want to hear much better explanation from you!! :D

We can do it fellow Clorisfan!!! :cleris:

What was your answer?

Rinoa: Tifa's looks + Aerith's personality.

Tell that Cloti congratulations, she/he just supported Cleris. :P

(Of course, more detailed answers would include comparing Aerith's personality in the game to Rinoa's, as well as highlighting how Tifa is generally pessimistic and more serious. Seriously, just because the game booklet says Tifa is cheerful or whatever, doesn't mean she is. The booklet sets up expectations of the characters that the game is meant to break down.)

And to head off any future argument, just because Cloud says Tifa's "optimistic" doesn't make it true. Tifa's own actions > anybody's views.

Aerith saved the world-- including Cloud. The logic's pretty simple: if she hadn't summoned Holy, everyone--including Cloud--would definitely have died. There was really no other solution presented to her. It's not like Sephiroth had offered her safe haven on a moon with Cloud if she wouldn't summon Holy. :P

I don't know how people can use that argument with a straight face. Just because Aerith chose to die for the Planet does not, in any way, diminish her love for Cloud. It just shows her strength of character: doing not what you want to, but what you have to. Would you accuse a soldier who's being drafted for war of loving his wife less than his country?

True, but I'm not sure how that proves Cloud loves Tifa. :blink: He can and will be grateful to her for sticking by him, but her actions can't guarantee Cloud will love her.

Okay, I'll be be brutal and strip the Lifestream scene down to this: Tifa was there as fact-checker.

Cloud learning about his past did not depend on emotional issues. They were supposed to find something that one of them remembered but the other didn't as proof that Sephiroth was lying (sorry, you'll have to search through the script yourself for the exact details), and thus set about doing so-- in the process, emotions are revealed and Cloud and Tifa learned that they were never close childhood friends.

Cloud learning about his past didn't depend on Tifa "understanding" him. It depended on their memories--not the emotional aspect, but pure hard facts.

How do we know if Aerith understood Cloud? Well, she seemed able to see through his tough-guy act and sense something was wrong with him. Bear in mind, she'd met Cloud comparatively recently (she certainly wasn't a childhood friend). Yet she was already able to pick up signs that something wasn't right.

Lastly, why do we need evidence that Aerith understood Cloud? So we can judge the worthiness of her love? In determining the canon couple, all one needs to know is whether Person A loves Person B. And Aerith clearly loves Cloud.

I'd like to hear your answer too. :) (And yeah, I think it's "mother".)

Two things: 1) Being put on the same level of mother and hometown, while nice, doesn't necessarily mean he truly and deeply loved Tifa in a romantic way--it can also mean he cared a lot about her; and 2) This happened in the past--five years later, Cloud is ready to walk out of Tifa and AVALANCHE because of a fight with Barret, feelings change etc.

When Tifa was about to get executed, who came and saved her? Barret.

When Tifa was bleeding to death after Sephioth sliced her up, who came in and saved her? Zangan.

When Tifa was going to have to go though God only knows what at Wall Market, who's idea was it to sneak in there? Aeris

Who did Cloud save from the Turks? Aeris

Who did Cloud save when the reactor was about to explode? Jessie

We can play this "who saved who" game all day. It doesn't mean much other than a person was willing to stick their neck out for somebody they knew.

Actualy, Tifa's personality at it's very core is quite a bit like Tifa's. She started out a spoiled little girl that wanted to make a difference and wanted the lead character to really like her. Other than that, the big differences were that Tifa was pessimistic and experienced while Rinoa was naive and optimistic.

The big difference here comes from Cloud and Squall. At face value they actually have quite a bit in common, but that's only at first glance.

Looking a bit deeper into the characters, the bigest difference is that Squall wants the world to go on without him and doesn't want to be remembered or responible for anything. Cloud wants the world to notice him and makes a point of trying to stand out in the crowd and show off.

Thanks for all your answers actually, I just want to be cleared for all the cloti statements... :fangirl:
That comes from the experts :)

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