I found a pic that said squaresoft want to make a game about cloud and aerith but don't have the time now. hope they make the game for the ps3. anyway here the pic

http://img120.imagevenue.com/img.php?image...en_123_81lo.jpg :cleris:

OMG, is that real?! :o

stupid question. OMG, where did you see that?! I sure do hope it's not some photoshop thing. :( because if it is... :mad: do you know where we can find the article??

but yeah!!! it's another proof! i guess... :unsure:

yey! :cleris: ty for sharing...! :huggle:

Lol, that would be very nice to have a game like that ^^;
But if they would make a gaiden, what do you think the plot would be about? -stares off and wonders-

Well, you'd have to think about that.

Somehow, (but this may just be my opinion), it really does look like it was Photoshopped or something akin to that. Another thing, though, is that I don't remember them ever being so open about pairings they support in interviews! It just doesn't seem very likely, but if it were to be true, it would be great. :)

I remember hearing something like this, but it was really really really really really really really long ago.

Like, before KH1 was released. XD

...Well, okay, I don't remember the exact time. I might be wrong, can't always trust this ol' geezer's memories, but I think this is legit.


[EDIT] Okay, this isn't an actual source, but Kitase is quoted by someone posting on ACF in 2004. Just do a search for "gaiden" and you'll find it being referenced.

Yeah, that is a pretty old quote. :P I believe it was pre-KH. But, you know, they really did create a side-story with Cloud and Aerith when KH came out.

Funny, you never see them talking about wanting to make side-stories about Cloud and Tifa. :whistle:

I have that issue of EGM (the limited edition Amano cover art is BEAUTIFUL). Anyway, it isn't Photoshopped, Kitase actually said that. Though like FFG just said, this was before KH. I personally believe they referred to KH when they said they wanted to put Cloud and Aerith in a side story game.

Oh, and, one more thing cloud_aries...

Aries= the zodiac sign of the ram

Ares= the Greek god of war

Aeris= :aeris: (aka "Aerith")

Mmkay? ^_^

yea i known you told that on your website. Also I was taking to this cloti about this proof what he/she said was that It don't mean anything other proof from another game mean nothing to him too. Then he want on and said that Tifa and Cloud are the True Couple in ff7 that why they show Aerith and Cloud on other game not to make the fan upset. I think this is a very stupid reason from what I think.

Very stupid reasoning. If you have characters you like and ones that are connected well, why would you not show them together?

And if you're only showing them together so some fans don't get upset, why aren't there any games that pair Jessie and Cloud, or Yuffie and Cloud, or *shudder* Sephiroth and Cloud. They've all got fans.

That why I won't Debates with a cloti anymore. They just make up their own lie like Cloud didn't cry when Aerith die he just shake his head and you must mean tifa she did cry in the when Aerith dead. Barrent make cloud laugh too in the game. In kh2 tifa is cloud light because both of them wear black. He running away from tifa beacause he didn't known that tifa is his light. When I tell them where is the proof that tifa and cloud where a couple? They said squaresoft said Tifa and Cloud are the couple in ff7 what other proof do you need? debates with cloti seem pointless if they can't win the debates they seem to make up their own story.

Yeah, I guess that is why his whole body shook as he clutched her to him. :rolleyes: When you are merely shaking your head, your whole body shudders, right? :lmao: God, that is stupid. Plus, you can just bring up the bit in MotP about how heart-broken Cloud was over Aerith's death...

"She watched Cloud's face which looked as if his heart was going to fall apart from the sadness of losing her, the anger and hate he had for her being taken from him."

"But a cry came through to her. It wasn't the sound of her cry. If it was then she would have felt the blood gushing up through her throat and the fury that forced its way out from the depths of her soul- It was the sound of Cloud's heart cracking. It was the cry of his heart that could never be healed of the grief he had towards Aerith's death, the blame towards himself and the hatred he had for Sephiroth."

And from CoT:

"She knew that Cloud was in great pain because he couldn't protect Aerith. Cloud was on the verge of overcoming it but now, going back to the place where he and Aerith got separated meant that his sorrow and regret was going to tear his heart apart once again."

Yeah, Cloud wasn't upset at all, was he? :rolleyes: [/sarcasm]

After Cloud had met Aerith. And, it wasn't Barret, it was everyone on board the Highwind. The first time Cloud laughed was with Aerith. The only time Cloud laughed because of one person was with Aerith. And, considering he only laughed twice during the whole game, I would say that is a pretty big accomlishment. It is pretty obvious to me how well Cloud and Aerith get along. It's too bad they have to grasp at straws to try and show otherwise. -_-

Yeah, absolutely, wearing black iz pruf dat ur teh lite! :lmao: I guess Sephiroth is Cloud's light, too, then, hmm? Oh, and so are Leon and Yuffie. :lmao:

In KH2, Cloud is searching for his darkness. In KH1, when Cloud was actually searching for his light, he was reunited with Aerith. Yeah, that's right, Tifa wasn't in KH1, wasn't mentioned, nada. Besides, it has already been confirmed that Cloud is running from that "something warm like what Tifa was after in AC". In other words, Tifa wants a "real family" and Cloud isn't interested.

Yep, that would be a lie. That was never said. Ask them for a source and a quote next time.

Tifa and Yuffie cried. So, what's that say about them?

If I'm not mistaken, it said in one LT essay that if you cry for someone at Japanese funeral, you would be labeled as a crazy person.

Cloud looks back on Aeris' life and relfects on it. so we know that Aeris was always on his mind. But I think that Cloud showed some grief when Aeris was killed at the Forgotten Capital

We don't see Cloud crying. Just because he doesn't cry when Aeris dies, doesn't mean that he forgot about Aeris. Even in AC, he still feels at fault for Aeris' death and it took Aeris herself to tell him that he didn't cause her death and that she forgave him.

^I find the argument that Cloud wasn't upset especially idiotic and archaic, trumped only by the "Cleris is impossible because Aerisths iz ded!" argument. Anyone who thought Cloud was unaffected by Aerith's death, even before AC was shown, needs to seriously pay more attention to that scene.


Gotta love the rules being set, though:

Cloud MUST cry to show he cared for Aerith. Nevermind the shaking shoulders and broken, despaired lines he utters-- he MUST emit great big globs of salty tears as proof he loved Aerith.

Cloud doesn't have to-- he can if he want, and he's obviously got the ability to, if only he weren't oh-so-shy, and we all know deep inside he reeeeeally wants to-- but Cloud doesn't HAVE to show any physical or vocal reciprocation to Tifa's romantic gestures under the Highwind... because "words aren't the only ways" to show a person you love them.


:rolleyes:

Wait, I'm confused here...

Where does it say he didn't cry? :blink:

^Some really old anti-Cleris arguments have said that since Cloud wasn't shown crying over Aerith's death in the game, it meant he didn't love her. I believe some of those people used the FMV of Aerith's burial, where Cloud silently puts her in the lake, as proof that he never cried.

Well judging from the act that the graphics weren't good enough to show Cloud cry, the words were proof enough. Cloud says exactly what people experience when they are about to cry. Are we supposed to see huge rivers coming out of Cloud's eyes anime style or something? :lmao:

:woot: omg i would LOVE it if they did make a game about cloud and aerith!


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Clorith, they did.

It's called 'Final Fantasy VII.'

And don't forget the movie they made about them: Advent Children. :shifty:

I think you're talking about KH1.
Of course, SE soon realized how much more money they could make and how much more popular KH would be with added characters like Tifa in the series. :P

Seriously, I think that's what some people were expecting. :rolleyes:

And it occured to me-- that lake is a long way up from where Aerith died, right? IIRC, it's on the surface, and you have to walk through a fair number of paths and down this long flight of stairs to the platform where she was praying.

Who's to say Cloud hadn't composed himself by the time he reached the surface? We don't know how long AVALANCHE stayed down there, but it must've been some time. I doubt they immediately decided to leave right after killing Jenova LIFE.

You've got a good point there. Never thought about it, but its true. That's a long way to go, climbing up all those stairs, carrying Aerith's lifeless body. I can imagine him even breaking down when he's walking, having to stop because he's crying so hard. . . :sad: But by the time he reaches the surface and the lake, he's managed to compose himself enough to face the others.

Seriously, Cloti's are on crack. Even if he didn't cry (which I don't believe for a second that he didn't), crying isn't the only way to show sadness or despair. I mean, we see it all the time in TV, movies, and real life. Men are too 'macho' to show their emotions through tears. They show it through screaming, ranting, raving, breaking things, etc. I mean, when was the last time we see some tough guy like Arnold Swartzinegor (or however the freak you spell his last name) break down into tears over the death of his girlfriend? Doesn't really happen a whole lot, but we never say that they didn't love said person just because they didn't cry. Even if Cloud didn't cry, his words and physical actions are enough to show how much Aerith meant to him. PWND CLOTI FOOLZ!!! :tard: :lmao:

I'm playing the game through... so I was a sort of "blank slate" at the beginning. But as I go through, I lean more and more to CloudxAeris.

It was when Cloud first met Aeris that he gradually started to lighten up. He knew Tifa all along and still was a blockhead. (Heh... almost literally XD). But I noticed a gradual change in him as time passed. And it certainly wasn't one-sided either. After all, Aeris did ask Cloud on a date. XD (Just think! She could have asked Barret or something... there was plenty of other guys, but she asked Cloud! Ha!) And doesn't Cloud cry like a baby when Aeris died? Talk about opening up! :o

Then Advent Children... (OHMYGOSH one of my FAVORITE movies!!) Cloud chose to live in the church where he first met her... GAH, it was so obvious!! I think you guys get the jist...

So the triangle goes like this, I think: Aeris and Tifa like Cloud, but Cloud grows a lovey relationship for Aeris while he's just friends with Tifa.

Yup, that's my conclusion...

I have one word to say: QTF.

Sort of going off tangent, but society nowadays seems to believe that the only way a woman can show that's she strong is if she holds a sword or in her hand or physically kicks ass. There doesn't seem to be such a thing as "emotional strength" anymore; or if there is, it "doesn't count" or it's "weaker." [/rant]

Nowadays, we've been expose to women doing those sort of things, heck even in some videogames that they're more preferred (I'm looking at you, Lara Croft). I don't get it, why bother having an asskicking gal if her personality doesn't appeal to you or not compatible with you?

I take Aerith more seriously, like in KH2, she waits for Cloud because she believes in him, knowing he'll be alright. (Sound like a great supportive significant other)

Meanwhile, we got Tifa's...uh, 'uber searching skillz' in the oddest of places, desperately looking for Cloud and want to help him. (Whoa, worry much?)

when aeris died, cloud said: " my eyes are burning! " it is not proof enough to show that he was crying?? or what??

o yes, and i remember someone told that at the beggining, ff7 ac was going to be a film of 20 minutes with only cloud and tifa, so it was going to be THEIR story. Well, i have buy the film and i think it was nomura, who says that at firts, the movie was going to be:

A group of children have a message for Cloud. The message it is from a woman....not until the end of the film, the name of the woman was told.

Seriosly, do you think that the message was gojng to be from tifa to cloud?? i cant say tha No. And i have proofs, because this idea was show in the ac movie. In the end, after cloud come back to the church, a little girl says: " she sais to wait here, because you would come back", she was talking about aeris.

Err...Aerith loves Cloud as stated in MWTTP...but I think Tifa is just attracted to him. Like he's just there so she sets her sight on him, you know? Not actually falling in love with him or getting to know the real him like Aerith did.

It was definitely a message from Aerith, Tifa was right there with him. It couldn't have been from her.

Yeah, it was definently Aeris.

Umm, about Aeris' death scene, and Cloud crying: You can see Cloud's polygonal body shifting in a way that implies heavy crying, harsh breathing, or heaving. And I think the safest thing to infer is that he was heaving and crying.

And besides, like Daga said, Cloud's line "My eyes are burning!" makes it even more obvious that he was crying, and I don't think that Clotis are willing to except it.

I'd have to agree there--I doubt very much Cloud's eyes were burning due to an allergic reaction. :D

Seriously, how could you watch that FMV and the dialogue and NOT know Cloud was losing his shit?

Oh wait, I know--a lot of them just skipped through it. =p

They'll think of some terribly lame excuse, such as their infamous quote "Oh, but the Koibito thing is better proof!" Even though it's disproven...

Again, this whole crying issue is just Cloti jealousy.

I remember something similar happening to Tifa. She had a huge gash from Sephiroth across her chest, not to mention she fell down quite a few steps.(Must have hit her head a few times or something) But Cloud didn't yell at Sephiroth about his eyes burning, and if he did, you know that would just be "Proof" to them that Cloud cares for her. But no, that didn't happen. It actually looked like he was more angry than actually sad. He yelled to give back Tifa his mother and his town. He didn't give this speech about Tifa no longer being able to cry and whatnot. He didn't talk about his pain, and burning eyes. Nothing of the sort. Just "give this and that back" and went berserk.

Exactly--and what was the reaction when they were reunited some years later?

Oh yeah, she had to beg and plead for him to stay, and even then, only with the promise of extra money from a child's schooling fee did he agree to stay.

Compare that to the reaction Cloud had when he saw Aerith again in Advent Children.

Why is there even a debate again?