I was recently given "Meteora" by Linkin Park for Christmas. I'd heard them on the radio and thought they were alright, and I really like them now that I got the CD. There are many songs on that disk that deal with betrayal, and although not so much referance to Cloud x Aeris, there was a lot that reminded me of the relationship between Cloud and Tifa. I think the one that most got me was "Don't stay," the second track on the CD.

"Sometimes I
Need to remember just to breathe
Sometimes I
Need you to say away from me
Sometimes I'm
In disbelief I didn't know
Somehow I
Need you to go

Sometimes I
Feel like I trusted you too well
Sometimes I
Just feel like screaming at myself
Sometimes I'm
In disbelief I didn't know
Somehow I
Need to be alone

Don't stay
Forget our memories
Forget our possibilities
What you were changing me into
[just give me myself back and]
Don't stay
Forget our memories
Forget our possibilities
Take all your faithlessness with you
[just give me myself back and]
Don't stay

I don't need you anymore
I don't want to be ignored
I don't need one more day
of you wasting me away

With no apologies."

While this is a slightly more viscous way of saying it, I believe that it resembles Cloud's leaving Tifa and his friends. The "Forget our memories/Forget our possibilities" line seems like Cloud telling Tifa that his feelings were all in the past and to forget anything happening based on them. He was by himself during AC and liked it just fine that way. Tifa had been trying to change him and keep him as the "First-Class SOLDIER" Cloud, even when Sephy tried to tell him the truth.

I'll type up more later, there are many other examples ... ;)

Hey, I have the same CD. I love their songs, and sometimes their songs do remind me of Cloud and Aeris. :P

No way! I was about to post that!


"Hit the Floor" is the best track on Meteora!

I Love Linkin Park!!!!!!!

My friends!!! ::beams:: :D

This one reminds me A LOT of Advent Children. Track six, "Easier to Run."

It's easier to run,
Replacing this pain with something numb.
It's so much easier to run,
Than face all this pain here all alone.

Something has been taken,
From deep inside of me.
A secret I've kept locked away,
No one can ever see.
Wounds so deep they never show.
They never go away,
Like moving pictures in my head
For years and years they've played.

If I could change I would,
Take back the pain I would.
Retrace every wrong move I made I would.
If I could stand up and take the blame I would.
If I could take all the shame to the grave I would.

Sometimes I remember
The darkness of my past,
Bringing back these memories
I wish I didn't have.
Sometimes I think of letting go
And never looking back,
And never moving forward so
There would never be a past.

Just washing it aside
All of the helplessness inside.
Pretending I don't feel misplaced
Is so much simpler than change.

It's easier to run,
Replacing this pain with something numb.
It's so much easier to go
Than face all this pain here all alone.

Well, it's easier for Cloud to run away from his past, from his friends, than to stay with people who can't relate to him. They don't really understand the pain he went through, except for Vincent, who Cloud DOES talk to.

Many Clotis would probably read the second paragraph and interpret it as Cloud's "childhood love for Tifa." Ick. If you really read it, you'll understand what I'm about to say. "Something has been taken from deep inside of me," means that his willingness to live is gone. His dreams of meeting Aeris again were stifled, and he's lost because he doesn't think he can be with her again. "Wounds so deep they never show, they never go away," is obvious, the journey and their battles, Aeris's death in particular, left wounds that time cannot heal. "Like moving pictures in my head, for years and years they've played," applies, in that Cloud has been dwelling on Aeris's death. Remember when Bugenhaggen showed the clip of Aeris's death? And all the flashbacks of him setting her in the water. Moving pictures in his head (it was an FMV) that have been playing for years.

The third paragraph. Well gee, I wonder if Cloud would like to retrace his steps and fix everything? We know he blames himself, because he asks for Aeris's forgiveness, even though she tells him she doesn't blame him.

"Sometimes I remember the darkness of my past." Cloud seems OBSESSED with the darkness in his past. The ultimate expression of this is his Vincentine Kingdom Hearts form. The memories he wish he didn't have, memories of Aeris and Zack's deaths, uncomfortable memories of the incidents in Nibleheim, etc. "Sometimes I think of letting go and never looking back, and never moving forward so there'd never be a past" Cloud really does seem to have given up on most apsects of life, apart from mourning Aeris and trying to take care of the sick orphans while being in deteriorating health himself. He doesn't even care that he's dying because he wants to see Aeris again, something Tifa confirms.

So many of the songs fit with FFVII!!!

Yeah, that's a good one for AC.

Yep, I agree. :lol:

This sounds a lot like Tifa. It reminds me of her and Cloud. It's called "Faint" and is track seven.

"I am
A little bit of loneliness,
A little bit of disregard.
A handful of complaints,
But I can't help the fact
That everyone can see these scars.
I am
What I want you to want,
What I want you to feel,
But it's like
No matter what I do
I can't convince you
To just believe this is real.
So I let go
Watching you
Turn your back like you always do.
Face away and pretend that I'm not,
But I'll be here
'Cause you're all I got.

I am
A little bit insecure,
A little unconfident,
'Cause you don't understand
I do what I can,
But sometimes I don't make sense.
I am
What you never want to say
But I've never had a doubt.
It's like no matter what I do
I can't convince you
For once just to hear me out.
So I let go
Watching you
Turn you back like you always do.
Face away and pretend that I'm not,
But I'll be here
'Cause you're all I got.

I can't feel
The way I did before.
Don't turn your back on me,
I won't be ignored.
Time won't heal
This damage anymore.
Don't turn your back on me, I won't be ignored.

No
Hear me out now
You're gonna listen to me,
Like it or not
Right now."

First off, those adjectives, "lonely", "disregarding", "insecure" and "unconfident" all apply beautifully to Tifa. Lonely because she's pretty much away from her friends, they've split up, and Cloud, who doesn't really have anyone else at that point, still doesn't want to be with her. Disregarding in that she doesn't seem to understand how much Cloud wants to be with Aeris. He wouldn't mind dying to be with her, and Tifa can't comprehend this. Insecure and unconfident? Well now!! How could Tifa *possibly* be either of those? :rolleyes:

Tifa can't convince him that Aeris won't come back, because she didn't see Aeris's hand reaching out for him. Tifa never "felt" Aeris like Cloud did. He felt her presence in the Lost City and knew she was there.

Tifa lets Cloud leave, turning his back on her like he always does. He wants to be alone, but Tifa will wait for him because she doesn't have anyone else. She pines for him, but it is unrequitted. He sees no one else but Aeris.

Tifa doesn't think Cloud understands how much she has tried to do for him. She really didn't make a lot of sense to him I'm sure, going through so much trouble to cover up the fact that several of his memories were incorrect, and then suddenly going through more trouble trying to sort them out.

Neither of them are the same as the were earlier, and that's why Cloud can't have a relationship with Tifa. Tifa thinks that enough time has passed that he needs to think of other options. Cloud understands that the wounds were too deep, and that time isn't powerful enough to heal him without Aeris. Tifa wants Cloud to stop ignoring her, and to listen to her.

Another one that corresponds beautifully!! :D

Do any other Linkin Park songs remind you of Cloud and Aeris?

Sure! "Breaking the Habit" ...

This represents Cloud after FFVII. Like, before he regained the will to fight.

"Memories consume,
Like opening the wound.
I'm picking me apart again.
You all assume
I'm safe here in my room
[unless I try to start again]

I don't want to be the one
The battles always choose,
'Cause inside I realize
That I'm the one confused.

I don't know what's worth fighting for
Or why I have to scream
I don't know why I instigate
And say what I don't mean.
I don't know how I got this way
I know it's not alrgiht
So I'm
Braking the habit
Tonight

Clutching my cure
I tightly lock the door
I try to catch my breath again
I hurt much more
Than any time before.
I had no options left again.

I'll paint it on the walls
'Cause I'm the one at fault
I'll never fight again
And this is how it ends

I don't know what's worth fighting for
Or why I have to scream
But now I have some clarity
To show you what I mean.
I don't know how I got this way
I'll never be alright.
So I'm
Breaking the habit,
Breaking the habit
Tonight"

"Memories consume, like opening the wound." He's being consumed by guilty memories. He can't figure out what he's supposed to do, doesn't know how to find Aeris, and is lost. "I'm picking me apart again." He's going over what happened in his mind. Picking apart what he did and regretting the mistakes he made. "You all assume I'm safe here in my room," is the fact that now that everyone is safe from Meteor, people expect him to be really happy. But without his light, there's no way for him to find happiness.

"I don't want to be the one the battles always choose, 'cause inside I realize that I'm the one confused." Cloud is too confused and lost in himself and his memories of the past. He wants peace, and is sick of fighting. It all reminds him of the life that was lost, both of others and himself.

"I don't know what's worth fighting for." He doesn't understand why he should bother fighting for anything now that Aeris is gone. He believed she had been avenged when he killed Sephiroth, that's the main reason Cloud was so determined to beat him. Later Cloud jumps back into his protagonist persona once it's suggested that Sephiroth could come back. "I don't know why I instigate and say what I don't mean." He doesn't know why he doesn't want to see his friends anymore. Making conflicts and shutting himself off from the ones he had once called his closest friends.

"Clutching my cure I tightly lock the door." He feels at peace only when he can remember Aeris. That's why he rests in her church, and watches over her grave. He guards and protects her even after death. Her memory is his cure. "I hurt much more than any time before." The Geostigma taking hold and the fact that his is drowning in a sea of guilt cause him ultimate suffering. He is being drained by the Geostigma as his body tries to rid itself of the Jenova cells that were injected into him. Meanwhile, he is mourning Aeris and feels that he was at fault for her death.

"I'll paint it on the walls 'cause I'm the one at fault." He doesn't care if everyone knows he's in pain. He blames himself for it, and is punishing himself. "I'll never fight again and this is how it ends." He wants to live a quiet life of solitude. He's given up fighting now that Aeris has been avenged.

"But now I have some clarity to show you what I mean." He can be clear to Aeris. He wants her to know that he's still mourning. He still misses her and plans to continue remembering her.

Oh my gosh!! I totally love "Breaking the Habit", that song is so cool! :lol:
It does sometimes remind me of Cloud-Aeris. :P

"Crawling"

[Chorus:]
Crawling in my skin
These wounds they will not heal
Fear is how I fall
Confusing what is real

There's something inside me that pulls beneath the surface
Consuming/confusing
This lack of self-control I fear is never ending
Controlling/I can't seem

[Bridge:]
To find myself again
My walls are closing in
(without a sense of confidence and I'm convinced that there's just too much pressure to take)
I've felt this way before
So insecure

[Chorus]

Discomfort,endlessly has pulled itself upon me
Distracting/reacting
Against my will I stand beside my own reflection
It's haunting how I can't seem...

[Bridge]

[Chorus]

[Chorus]



Yes, I'm a huge LP fan as well, I have all of their songs, so if anyone wants ANY of them, from ANY album, just IM me over MSN and I'll give you some ^_^

Anyway, this is more or less focused around Cloud, and when he's lost in his own conscience.

"Against my will I stand beside my own reflection, its haunting, how I can't seem, to find myself again, my walls are closing in..."

This is probably how he felt after Aeris was slayed by Sephiroth, he was lost in himself, watching everything through empty eyes.

"Crawling in my skin
These wounds they will not heal
Fear is how I fall
Confusing what is real"

This ultimately relates to the struggle for his own sanity. He tries to seperate dream from reality, and reality from nightmare. Cloud was constantly at war with himself, regardless of whether he showed it or not, its put right out in the open when the game goes into his conscience with Tifa.

LP Rocks! I can pretty much re-write all the lyrics for their songs without the song playing ^_^

I think I posted some of these before.
This one really reminds me of Tifa and Cloud, especially the highlighted lines

Numb
I'm tired of being what you want me to be
Feeling so faithless, lost under the surface
I don't know what you're expecting of me
Put under the pressure, of walking in your shoes
(Caught in the undertow, just caught in the undertow)
Every step that I take is another mistake to you
(Caught in the undertow, just caught in the undertow)

[Chorus:]
I've become so numb
I can't feel you there
Become so tired, so much more aware
I'm becoming this, all I want to do
Is be more like me and be less like you

Can't you see that you're smothering me?
Holding too tightly, afraid to lose control
'Cause everything that you thought I would be
Has fallen apart, right in front of you(Caught in the undertow, just caught in the undertow)
Every step that I take is another mistake to you
(Caught in the undertow, just caught in the undertow)
An' every second I waste is more than I can take

[Chorus: Repeat]

And I know
I may end up failing too
But I know
You were just like me
With someone disappointed in you

[Chorus: Repeat]

I've
Become so numb
I can't feel you there
I'm tired of being what you want me to be (x2)

I like "Breaking The Habit."
The lyrics are applicable to most RPGs.

Cool, they do kinda remind me of CXA.

(flowerangel050 has two CD's of Linkin Park)

(I'd like to hear them sometime)

:fangirl:
I love this song !!!! It's one of my favourites from LInkin Park :D.
Cool, I didn't realise that this song along with a few others had the Clorith quality:P. I love 'Crawling', 'Easier to run' and 'Breaking the Habit' ,too :woot: .

Didnt Hardedge use Linkin Park in his little music FFVII video?? He used "Numb". I have to say, I wasn't a great fan, but Numb has got me hooked! (I'll have to save up for a CD...) :P

Go Hardedge!! You got me likin' Linkin! :P (excuse the pun)