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Scott - September 29, 2006 03:31 PM (GMT)
Simple enough poll, and has proved pretty popular at other sites and certainly divides the crowd.

So which do you prefer?

Right now, I'm sitting in the DS camp. Mario Kart and Sonic Dash are amazing, the remake of Mario 64 is stunning and the forth coming Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy III games look outstanding.

The PSP has some pretty impressive games too though. But it does have a hefty price tag, and also the additional price for Memory Cards. And then there's always the loading times which are sometimes downright ridiculous.

Paladin's Heart - September 29, 2006 04:07 PM (GMT)
I have both a PSP and a DS and I don't want to choose between the two!!! :sad:

I'm a little more into my DS right now, since I'm enjoying Animal Crossing: WW. I'm also looking forward to Final Fantasy III (which has the ever annoying job system...-grumbles-), Children of Mana and Mario Hoopz 3-on-3. On gameplay, I'd love to go with the DS because of Wario Ware: TOUCHED! with the touch screen and all. Pretty much an entertaining system.

...But if your looking with multiple components, I'd go with the PSP. It can play music, watch movies, play games, comes with an ejectable sofa. But the battery life has taken it's downfall. I could play a round of Dynasty Warriors and it's already low battery >_<. But I love the ever so smexxy graphics on Tekken 5: Dark Ressurection. Also a pretty entertaining system as well, with multiple features.

So I love both systems. <33 Why oh why must there be a thing called console wars?

Zelda - September 30, 2006 02:46 AM (GMT)
DS all the way. PSP has many multimedia features, but think about it. Most people already have an iPod or a laptop/portable DVD player. It seems pointless to rebuy all your favorite movies just to watch them on the PSP. The only thing I would want it for is to play games, but it phails in that category too. Only recently has the PSP come out with any games worth playing, but the DS still beats it in number of quality games and gameplay. I tried playing GTA on the PSP, and it was the worst. I hate that stupid thing they use in place of the analog stick. Running from the cops is NOT FUN anymore. D<

Not to mention, Nintendo makes some durable hardware. I've dropped my DS countless times and it works perfectly. If I dropped a PSP it would probably explode.

Materia Thief - September 30, 2006 08:14 PM (GMT)
I'm personally much more of a DS person. While PSP does have a tad more versatility, the DS makes up for it with the sheer quality of its games. I see these as game consoles first and foremost. If I wanted to watch movies, I'd bring a portable DVD Player of a laptop--bigger screen and faster, with less battery waste. Ditto music, iPods and other mp3 players are much more efficient.

goddess_in_pink07 - September 30, 2006 08:25 PM (GMT)
Well, I like game consoles, but over all...I'm gonna have to go with DS. But, it barely wins. The DS I would perfere for someone who wants a good game selection, and likes fun, Nintendo games. Like, Animal Crossings or Pokemon Diamond. Those are good must have DS games.
The PSP is a very delicate item, indeed. Being how expensive it is, I'm very gently and cautious with it. I don't just put it down, unprotected. Its best to put it in a carrying container. And, the memory card, seriously scares me to death. Its so small, I could easily drop it, and never find it again.
It does have a few good games such as, GTA. And, supposively the upcoming re-make of the first Tomb Raider. Which, is a MUST HAVE. :D It really all depends on what kind of games you like, or perfere.

ryoko59 - September 30, 2006 11:52 PM (GMT)
I didn't like DS much, cause I couldn't get it work with me. :ermm:

Demos Maus - October 1, 2006 02:36 AM (GMT)
I prefere the DS myself. Since we have IPods and portable DVD player's what the use of the PSP? I admit the PSP does have some good games, but the DS seems to have a lot more game varity.

MistaCloudStrife - October 1, 2006 06:11 AM (GMT)
I'll probably be only one that's all for the PSP. I own both a PSP and DS and I find myself playing my PSP way more.

The PSP has the majority of games I would play... When I compare the DS and PSP games I really can't stand some DS games. More accurately the detailed(if you can call them detailed) 3D DS games.

Take Resident Evil for DS. The graphics sucked more than the PSone version(Not to mention they added a terrible touch screen dagger feaure). The new Tenchu completely turned me off and I'm patiently awaiting the much better looking PSP Tenchu.

Now the ONLY thing that the DS supporters have to back up the DS is the games. But even then the games are comparable to the gamecube games. I liked some gamecube games, don't get me wrong, but I can't stand playing the billionth mario, zelda, metriod, kirby etc games for very long.

And right now, the only game I'm looking forward to with the DS is FFIII. But even then I would still pick the PSP over the DS. Why? Crisis Core, Valkyrie Profile, Loco Roco, Initial D Street Stage, Tekken DR, Guilty Gear Judgement, Metal Gear Portable, and... ahem... . .. . .. .... ... a huge selection of PSone games available for download once the PSone emulator comes out for the PSP. ^_~ Just have to pay alittle to DL the game. Playing FFVII on the road sounds pretty interesting. >=)

Oh and did I mention DDR, Snes/GBA emulation, Triple Triad, and DevHook for homebrew?? Gotta love it.

Maiden - October 1, 2006 06:36 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (ryoko59 @ Sep 30 2006, 11:52 PM)
I didn't like DS much, cause I couldn't get it work with me. :ermm:

I'm with you Kelly. :ermm: I couldn't get mine to work neither, The games wouldn't work, it kept saying error something. :ermm: Besides, I love my Death Jr. Game. :fangirl:


Zelda - October 2, 2006 01:33 AM (GMT)
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Take Resident Evil for DS. The graphics sucked more than the PSone version(Not to mention they added a terrible touch screen dagger feaure).


Speaking as someone who has both the DS and the PSX version of RE1, the graphics aren't worse on the DS. They really aren't. Secondly, the dagger feature is optional. You can always play the original version without any touch screen mode.

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Now the ONLY thing that the DS supporters have to back up the DS is the games.


Actually, nope. The gameplay with the touchscreen is very innovative and the DS itself is extremely durable. Not to mention the DS Lite is the sexiest thing I've ever seen.

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I liked some gamecube games, don't get me wrong, but I can't stand playing the billionth mario, zelda, metriod, kirby etc games for very long.


There's more DS games than just first party, you know. Take your pick.

It's also not simply the amount of games, but the gameplay itself is something I always come back to. And playing on the PSP for me is always a chore and makes even games that should be fun suck.

Oh, er, just so you know, I'm not trying to fight or anything, I can understand a difference in preference, I just had to point out a few things. ^_^

I forgot to mention, HOUSE plays with a Nintendo DS. Ahaha. House wins! *loves*

MistaCloudStrife - October 2, 2006 06:27 AM (GMT)

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Speaking as someone who has both the DS and the PSX version of RE1, the graphics aren't worse on the DS. They really aren't. Secondly, the dagger feature is optional. You can always play the original version without any touch screen mode.


Sorry... can you repeat that again please? ^_~

PSX
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DS
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And yes, the dagger option is optional, but the fact that it's in there makes it known that game companies feel the need to incorperate the touch feature. I for one hate the touch feature on alot of the DS games. I was completely turned off to metriod because of it, and ultimately turned off on alot of games that used it. Innovative yes. Smart? Well that's up to the individual to decide. I say no.

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Actually, nope. The gameplay with the touchscreen is very innovative and the DS itself is extremely durable. Not to mention the DS Lite is the sexiest thing I've ever seen.


The psp may not be as durable, but I for one take care of my consoles and electronics. The reason why it isnt as durable is because they fit alot of advanced(more advanced than the DS anyway) hardware into the PSP. The screen is more fragile than a PalmPilot(DS) screen.. Not to mention it has a CD reader which means it has a lens... Not a cartridge reader. If Nintendo were to use a CDformat for thier games to up the space for games, believe me, it would be fragile too.

Anyway... my point is if you want a better portable, something is needed to compensate for that. UMD/Lens = Less durable. Just don't drop it.(Easy, huh?) I'm not going to buy a laptop that's the most durable. I'm going to buy one that's good. Same with a system. I didnt get a gamecube, which is the most durable current gen system, I bought a PS2; it was good. And the same goes with the portables...

And I still think the PSP is sexier. ^_~ I replaced my PSP face and buttons with clear blue ones so it's even sexier. >=


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It's also not simply the amount of games, but the gameplay itself is something I always come back to. And playing on the PSP for me is always a chore and makes even games that should be fun suck.

Oh, er, just so you know, I'm not trying to fight or anything, I can understand a difference in preference, I just had to point out a few things. ^_^

I forgot to mention, HOUSE plays with a Nintendo DS. Ahaha. House wins! *loves*


Playing the PSP akes it a chore? How so? You must think playing the PS2 is a chore as well since it's almost identicle...

And I'm not trying to fight or be rude either... I just like to debate about things I enjoy. ^_^

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There's more DS games than just first party, you know. Take your pick.


Alot of the third party games for the DS that I actually like are for the PSP as well.. And I'd pick the PSP versions anyday.

So last but not least... Lets compare them!! Wootz!

DS Bleach
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PSP Bleach (Cell shaded...*_*)
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DS Dynasty Warriors
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/8522/dsdwjh8.jpg
PSP Dynasty Warriors
http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/9445/pspdwqi7.jpg

DS Prince of Persia
http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/4599/dspopmj5.jpg
PSP Prince of Persia
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/3458/psppoptx6.jpg

Materia Thief - October 2, 2006 06:49 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (MistaCloudStrife @ Oct 1 2006, 10:27 PM)

And I'm not trying to fight or be rude either... I just like to debate about things I enjoy.

And I'm going to debate right back! ^_^

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The psp may not be as durable, but I for one take care of my consoles and electronics.


I would think most people would take care of their PSP with the price it carries, and most do, but that doesn't mean that the defects aren't just built in. Broken UMD drives, dead pixels--and the consumer had only opened the box! Are you saying that they aren't taking care of it by opening the box?

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The reason why it isnt as durable is because they fit alot of advanced(more advanced than the DS anyway) hardware into the PSP. The screen is more fragile than a PalmPilot(DS) screen.. Not to mention it has a CD reader which means it has a lens... Not a cartridge reader. If Nintendo were to use a CDformat for thier games to up the space for games, believe me, it would be fragile too.


But my issue is that the PSP fails to excel in any of those areas. Sure, it may be a jack-of-all-trades, but it has the same failings as a jack-of-all-trades: it's able to do a lot of things, but excels at none. It can play music. It can play movies. It can play some worthwhile games. But what about battery life? If they're going to fit all this "advanced" technology in, why not fit in the stuff that makes it run as well? ;)

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I'm not going to buy a laptop that's the most durable. I'm going to buy one that's good.


I'm trying to figure out how PSP > laptop in terms of movie playing potential. Laptops have the ability to play DVDs, while PSPs can play UMDs. While there is a somewhat varied selection of UMDs, DVDs tend to be cheaper and are way more versatile. Laptops also have longer battery lifes and bigger screens. Please explain your reasoning further than, "I'm going to buy one that's good."

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http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/4892/repsonezq0.jpg

and http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/7831/redskc6.jpg


I'd now like to proclaim deceptive imaging. If you want to compare images, at least make them roughly the same size.

DS, resized to roughly the size of PSX picture
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That looks pretty equal, doesn't it? Not forgetting that PSX, being a home console, would have a much larger screen. Shouldn't the picture sizes be reversed then? And can't we forgive the poor DS for a little slip in graphical quality for the portability it offers? ;]

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Playing the PSP akes it a chore? How so? You must think playing the PS2 is a chore as well since it's almost identicle...


How are these two systems identical? Do they have identical specs? No way, their gaming capabilities are vastly different. As well, they don't even have the same CONTROLLER. The Playstation 2 controller has two analog sticks, to start with. As well, everything on the PSP is sized down and spaced differently [slightly farther apart because of screen size, etc.].

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Alot of the third party games for the DS that I actually like are for the PSP as well.. And I'd pick the PSP versions anyday.

So last but not least... Lets compare them!! Wootz!

The Bleach and Prince of Persia ones are different games. Same series, yes, but different games, most definitely.

The PSP Bleach one is one of the "Heat the Soul" series, while the DS one is most likely "Bleach: Souten ni Kakeru Unmei," although I can't say for sure.

Prince of Persia is "Prince of Persia: Revelations" while the DS one is "Battles of Prince of Persia".

I can't quite say for Dynasty Warriors, as I've never been a fan of that series, but they look like radically different styles of gameplay, the DS being more of a RTS games and the PSP version being more like the hack-and-slash of the other Dynasty Warriors games. :3

Hades' Daughter - October 2, 2006 07:43 AM (GMT)
Whoa, there's a debate in here... O.O
Don't hurt me guys, but I think it's just preference.
As much as I'd like to have both the the DS and the PSP (the more variety of games I can play, the better it always is), I wouldn't waste my money on either. I'd far rather just stick with mah PS2 and mah gamecube...and save mah money up for the PS3, of course.

*wishes Scott had thrown a "neither" choice in* :razz:

Anyhow, just stopping by. Carry on...

MistaCloudStrife - October 2, 2006 11:34 AM (GMT)
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And I'm going to debate right back! ^_^


Awesome.


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I would think most people would take care of their PSP with the price it carries, and most do, but that doesn't mean that the defects aren't just built in. Broken UMD drives, dead pixels--and the consumer had only opened the box! Are you saying that they aren't taking care of it by opening the box?


You seem to be only looking at one side here. If I remember correctly, a number of the special red DS'(Mario Racing) had plenty of dead pixels. Dead. Not stuck. (Big difference) I found this out when my girlfriend bought her red DS. Had to return the red DS' twice and in the end settled for a regular(Silver) one. And just FYI, the PSPs didn't have dead pixels. They were stuck. And you can DL a program to fix them either way. ^_~ As for Broken UMD drives. This is the first I've heard of them. Either way, Sony isn't the ONLY company that has sent out imperfect systems. Nintendo has had it's share too. Don't single Sony out.

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But my issue is that the PSP fails to excel in any of those areas. Sure, it may be a jack-of-all-trades, but it has the same failings as a jack-of-all-trades: it's able to do a lot of things, but excels at none. It can play music. It can play movies. It can play some worthwhile games. But what about battery life? If they're going to fit all this "advanced" technology in, why not fit in the stuff that makes it run as well? ;)


Doesn't excel in any areas? 3D games with space of 1.8Gigs(More space than the gamecube disc which was 1.3Gigs) would be the most you can have for a handheld right now. It excels in games, but hasn't had a chance to prove itself as of yet. It takes a while to knock a giant off it's feet.(Nintendo handheld branch and it'supporters) Music, Movies, Homebrew would all just be extras.

And as for batteries.. I bought a couple extra batteries. 2x 2600mAh batteries to be exact. Meaning they last longer than normal batteries and unlock the "brighter screen" feature for your PSP. So you'd get to choose 4 levels of brightness.(Meaning controlling the battery life to some extent) They only cost me about 15$ each as well... So I got about 15 extra hours of gameplay on it. And several more hours of music play... ^^ You can also get a double battery/4 gig HDD combo... And there are several third party batteries you can get for 10$ or less. Or even PSP portable chargers for the same price. Batteries aren't a real matter here.

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I'm trying to figure out how PSP > laptop in terms of movie playing potential. Laptops have the ability to play DVDs, while PSPs can play UMDs. While there is a somewhat varied selection of UMDs, DVDs tend to be cheaper and are way more versatile. Laptops also have longer battery lifes and bigger screens. Please explain your reasoning further than, "I'm going to buy one that's good."


I was just saying it in general. I wouldn't get an electronic device for durability since all-in-all almost every electronic is ultimately fragile in some way or another. Just because it's more durable, it won't sway me to purchase it. Thus, I'm not going to pick a DS over a PSP just because I can drop it and it has a higher chance of not beaking on me.

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I'd now like to proclaim deceptive imaging. If you want to compare images, at least make them roughly the same size.

DS, resized to roughly the size of PSX picture
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That looks pretty equal, doesn't it? Not forgetting that PSX, being a home console, would have a much larger screen. Shouldn't the picture sizes be reversed then? And can't we forgive the poor DS for a little slip in graphical quality for the portability it offers? ;]


PS
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/8038/re1screensp9.jpg
DS
http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/8929/ds...hotlargebx1.jpg

Here we go... Looks about equal then. But I've still seen the DS RE; the pixels show(Especially the blood). And as for the PS version, the PS blends in the graphics well. And you should expect some type of improvment when it's been over a decade. Handheld or not.

I'd have gotten RE if it came out for the PSP. Well PSP is goign to get Silent Hill origins... That'll have to do.
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Ahhh... pure beauty.

Bah... while I'm at it, I'm gonna add a few more screens of games I'm waiting for.
Gekido
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Tenchu TOTA
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Metal Gear Portable Ops.
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Disgaea Portable
http://www.tothegame.com/res/game/5893/fea...reen7_large.jpg


Sorry, but these are games I want to play... Not the new starfox or fire emblem or whatnot. BTW the new Tenchu for the DS wasn't very appealling to me either. >_>;

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How are these two systems identical? Do they have identical specs? No way, their gaming capabilities are vastly different. As well, they don't even have the same CONTROLLER. The Playstation 2 controller has two analog sticks, to start with. As well, everything on the PSP is sized down and spaced differently [slightly farther apart because of screen size, etc.].


I WAS talking about controller. And it IS "almost"(Almost... thats what I said) identicle because the PSP was based on the PS and PS2 controller. Anyone with half a brain can see it plain as day. You see it as well right?

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The PSP Bleach one is one of the "Heat the Soul" series, while the DS one is most likely "Bleach: Souten ni Kakeru Unmei," although I can't say for sure.

Prince of Persia is "Prince of Persia: Revelations" while the DS one is "Battles of Prince of Persia".

I can't quite say for Dynasty Warriors, as I've never been a fan of that series, but they look like radically different styles of gameplay, the DS being more of a RTS games and the PSP version being more like the hack-and-slash of the other Dynasty Warriors games. :3


I wasn't saying they were the exact same games. Of course they're different, but which ones am I going to play? 2D bleach or 3Dcellshaded? I choose cellshaded. Sidescroll Prince of Persia or Full 3d Prince of Persia. I choose 3D. Tactical Dynastiny Warriors or the REAL Dynasty Warriors? Answer is obvious.

So in the end... I have my PSP on me right now. Just beat Roco Loco and am about to play a few RPGs I bought and havent even put in my PSP whereas my DS is somewhere in my room and I could care less where it is right now. I probably won't pick it up until FFIII or that Chocobo Book game comes out.... Until then, it's somewhere in the junkyard I call my room. ^_~

(<3 Debating <3)

Zelda - October 2, 2006 09:33 PM (GMT)
Materia Thief! :huggle: Thanks for pointing out the RE graphics thing, that was first on my mind!

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Either way, Sony isn't the ONLY company that has sent out imperfect systems. Nintendo has had it's share too. Don't single Sony out.


Don't forget Microsoft. *cough*

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It excels in games, but hasn't had a chance to prove itself as of yet.


That doesn't make sense to me. It doesn't excel at games because whenever they are given a chance to prove themselves they muck it up. How many years has it been since PSP came out? DS proved itself right out of the box.

PSP games totally flop in comparison to DS games. It's not just the title that matters, it's also the gameplay. And gameplay on the PSP tends to blow.

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But I've still seen the DS RE; the pixels show(Especially the blood). And as for the PS version, the PS blends in the graphics well. And you should expect some type of improvment when it's been over a decade. Handheld or not.


It's a port, not a remake. The pixel blood showed on the PSX version too. The truth is there really isn't a whole lotta difference between the DS and PSX versions of the game, aside from the addition of a few modes controls.

The thing about the DS is that it has nice graphics AND good gameplay, while the PSP hypes up the graphics and forgets that people actually PLAY these things and don't just want to stare at pretty pixels. There's more to games than the graphics.

MistaCloudStrife - October 3, 2006 04:36 AM (GMT)
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That doesn't make sense to me. It doesn't excel at games because whenever they are given a chance to prove themselves they muck it up. How many years has it been since PSP came out? DS proved itself right out of the box.

PSP games totally flop in comparison to DS games. It's not just the title that matters, it's also the gameplay. And gameplay on the PSP tends to blow.


They don't flop. They aren't given much attention. Reason being is that Nintendo has had a huge fanbase when it comes to handhelds, the DS is cheaper; and they're more focused on a larger audience, children(At least moreso than the PSP is). "Mama I want mario." I won't see a kid asking his mom for a PSP because he wants to play the new socom or metal gear solid. >_>

There's another reason why I like the PSP more I guess. I'm in my 20s... I guessI've grown up. A couple years ago I would have wanted to play the new DS Starfox... Not anymore I guess.

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It's a port, not a remake. The pixel blood showed on the PSX version too. The truth is there really isn't a whole lotta difference between the DS and PSX versions of the game, aside from the addition of a few modes controls.

The thing about the DS is that it has nice graphics AND good gameplay, while the PSP hypes up the graphics and forgets that people actually PLAY these things and don't just want to stare at pretty pixels. There's more to games than the graphics.


Exactly what games have you played on the PSP? You can't blindfold yourself, pick out a game and expect it to be good. This applies to all systems. Find a game with a good rating and play it. I enjoyed all of the games I have for the PSP. Some ports, some originals... But they're all good. Pretty pixels and good gameplay are what i like. And that's what the PSP has. Outright saying the PSP has no good gameplay is just an opinion... Put "I think" before your opinionated sentences please. Kthnx.

And IMO I think the gameplay on teh DS isn't all that great when it comes to games that interest me. The new Lunar sucked, Mario 64's controls were terrible, New Mario was too easy as well as Mariokart, And the DS Guilty Gear was a wreck.(PSP one rules BTW) The only game I actually enjoyed playing was Castlvania. Although the use of the touch screen was still annoying, it wasn't a big deal.(Not as big as some other games anuyway)

Kaldea - October 3, 2006 04:58 PM (GMT)
I'm sorry, but the DS is kicking ass right now. The PSP is way too over-priced even now and the games aren't even close to the DS's games. I know way more people with a DS than a PSP. I bought my PSP last year and I have been horribly disappointed so far, even if I DID buy it for Crisis Core when it comes out. DS all the way.

Key - October 3, 2006 05:02 PM (GMT)
Hm, I only own a DS and plan to only own a DS for quite a while. It has a much better selection of games (Animal Crossing: Wild World FTW!), IMO, and that's exactly what I'm looking for in a portable gaming device. The PSP has nice specs and versatility, but too many of the games that are available on it are just... rubbish. I think it's in desperate need of funner games, not more UMD movies.

That said, if something superamazing is released for the PSP, I just may have to buy one. Maybe when Crisis Core is released (I'll take Aerith any which way she is given to me<3)?




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