Ok ok, here´s the translation of the trailer shown during this TGS. Credit goes to Suzaku, from Advent Children.net

I like the FFVII "feeling" which it seems to contain, BUT... I don´t like the fact that it looks like all Cleris scenes which we had in the game seems now to be taken from Zeris scenes in this game <_<

Personally, I find it interesting that Aerith playfully reject the offer of a date. Maybe she can sense Zack's not her type...?

Plus, the fact that Zack fell through the ceiling miffed me, but then I remember, Aerith ask for a date with Cloud, who accept it as himself and not out of Zack's memory.

There goes the SOLDIER fanfictions where Zack walked up to Aerith casually. :P

Zack cried!?!?!?!? ZOMG I need to see that. :wub:


I wonder why he was crying... ?

I have very mixed feelings about this, but I'm not going to express them here at the moment. I think I need to know the full story before I fully react. @.@

Sounds to me like SE is thoroughly enjoying every bit of the different LTDs.
Leave mah beautiful Cleris scenes alone, SE! :mad:

That scene pretty much shows that Cloud ≠ Zack.
Zack offered a date, Cloud was offered one (he wasn't planning on offering one).

I dunno...it sounds awful SWEET*Does have a bit of a Zeris side* And I can't wait to see the crying Zack scene.
But I am a lil miffed myself by the blatant Cleris rip off. Mebee SE's trying to draw parallels on purpose? Showing us how one cannon couple is like another?

Zack crying makes me cry :cry: So cute though. I wish I was Aerith in that scene...

And yes, interesting that the Cloud and Aerith's first meeting parallels Zack and Aerith's. Only one key difference: Just like others have said, in the Zeris meeting, Zack asks Aerith for a date, who rejects. In the Cleris meeting, Aerith asks Cloud for a date, who readily accepts. Any thoughts or analysis? There's a lot buzzing through my mind right now but I'm too tired to write anything on it at the moment.

Oh and on a side note, the whole pale blue and white dress thing for Aeris gives me serious Madonna (not the singer, the Mother of God from the Christian Religion, of whom the singer took her name - commonly known as Mary) vibes. In statues and portraits She is also commonly seen wearing pale blue and white which is why Catholic nuns also wear the colour. Considering that she representations purity and of course motherhood (since in the Christian Religion she's the ultimate Mother), I wonder if it's a coincidence that Aeris is wearing those colours? Maybe I've been spending too much time studying for my Bible and Film Class :P

The only one little spark that's keeping me smiling at this point in regards to CC :P
However, we all know they eventually become an item anyhow. She must have accepted the date at one point or another, yes?

Oh, and very interesting thoughts on Aerith's outfit, nyrin.
That never crossed my mind, but it sure is something worth pondering over ^^

When did Zack cried?

You'd do a very good Communist, +1Reps.

From what Aerith_kun posted, I think this is what nyrin was referring to:

Zack is sitting, cross-legged, with Aerith behind him. He sobs, and she turns around to hold him.

He's sitting, and been cross-legged. Man, he's a badass even while crying.

By the way, Why should Aerith turn around if she's behind him?

Maybe they were back to back? :o
Then again, that's SE throwing in more parallels to mah beloved Cleris scenes. I should hope this isn't the case...

But Zack was sitting, unless Aerith was going somewhere and he started crying, they couldn't have been back to back. Now, that doesn't sounds that badass.

Agreed. Strong contrast of Zack and Cloud's personalities here... it stood out even more on similar backdrop i.e. similar falls-through-roof scene (lucky roof :lol: )... although SE could have been bit more orginal >.> ... but maybe..maybe it is to serve the exact purpose of what Clerith-son'd mentioned. Contrast of personalities.

Yeah sure hope it's not back-to-back.. :no: Well, but if you let me choose a back-to-back Cloti vs Zeris, I'll certainly pick the latter :lol:

Oh well, I'm a bit confused atm, need more CC scenes to decide on my stand on this whole Zeris thingy :unsure:

it's just me..or SE..is triying to make people forget cleris and like zeris? :unsure:

:unsure: You took the words right out of my mouth, Sefie. Be glad they weren't copyrighted. XD


Seriously though.... Cleris is a little sacred. You know what I'm saying? It's a big pairing, important to the FF series as a whole and such. Square better watch themselves and tread lightly around a classic tragic love. Does anyone get what I'm saying? *feels stupid*

Buuuuut... on the other hand, I love Zeris. I'm not sure when that happened. I think it was like a year ago or something... I can't remember, if I used to hate the pairing or I ignored it or what. But now I love it. So my Zeris side squeals. I think it's gonna be so cute to see a real story about two people who canonly like each other. LTDs and geusswork only stay fun for a little while. Cannon is cool once and a while too. :D Not that Cleris isn't cannon but.... there's no one to argue about Zeris, ya know?? I hope I'm making sense.

Sefie, I like the idea that Square is drawing parellels to reinforce the cannoninity (is that a word?? :lol: ) It's almost like they're saying, "Zeris is cannon, and it's a parallel to Cleris. Therefore Cleris is also cannon." I mean, if you think about it, the only way that you would really appreciate the Cleris-like Zeris scenes is if you thought Cleris was romantic too.



I dunno. Maybe all that SE is trying to tell us is that Aerith only dates guys who fall through roofs.
XD

Well, Zeris did happen at one point, but because of what MoTP revealed to us, I guess I don't quite see it as "canon". Maybe that's just my non-zeris, biased mind speaking though. Anyhow, I'm a bit confused at this point too...so I'll have to wait for someone to actually play CC and hand us the details before I can fully throw my hate in opinions in.

*crosses fingers 'n hopes for some Clerisness*

BTW, we don't have any news on Tifa yet...right?

If Tifa shows up in this game (other than in the Nibelheim fire scene [I hate that scene]) I will kill myself. <_<

why they keep hiding tifa's apearence..she's not as important as aerith : p

They're hiding Tifa's appearance...? :blink: I don't think they are... where did you hear that?

JUST MY OPINION nothnig more ...xD

Oh okay. Honestly, I don't think Tifa's gonna be all that important in this installment. She's just not that important to this part of the story. If Square puts her in, I think it's gonna seem like it's just fanservice (which it is).

Tifa HAS to be shown, since she's an important character in the Nibelheim event, which is the beginning of the end of Zack's life.

*FALLS*

OMGZZZZ PEOPLEEEE!!! This game is about the past. When Aeris and Zack were together. Of course there is going to be Zeris! It's just like expecting Cloud and Tifa in LO! But guess what! It doesn't change what ALREADY happened in FFVII and MOtP (Aeris shooting down Zack, yus?). Calm guys.

*Wants zis game more now yus*

Ya Tifa will probably be in it, if just for a little bit since it's about the past in Nibelheim. Still, I agree that she won't be that important. She was already prominent in LO and AC. Hopefully this time it'll be Aerith's turn (cuz seriously, ENOUGH with Tifa already, we practically know everything about her life before during and after FF7. Any more will just be meaningless overkill).

*wants to see the Zeris hugging scene* That sounds so bloody adorable. And I second CG's post. We know that Aerith views Zack as a very dear friend in MoTP, not a lover. She tells him as much. And we know that they were together during the CC timeline. Zeris-ness is to be expected. I wish SE would have been more original with their meeting though.

I agree, there needs to be more Aerith exposure. I love Tifa but, she was already the main female character in AC. Aerith needs some time to shine. :lol:

Isn't that part of FFVII's story? Aerith meets a guy who reminds her of her first boyfriend. Having them share similar scenes is probably just there to reinforce the point.

She doesn't really 'reject' him (otherwise the story is pretty much screwed). I don't think 'Not that!' really fits with what she's saying, which is more along the lines of a jokey "LOL, what? That's so dumb."

I just remembered...


Wasn't it confirmed somewhere else that Aerith met Zack while selling flowers? :ermm: Maybe she already had met him before when he fell through her roof.

Most likely. But it is annoying, nonetheless.

I remember that too! Can't remember where it was confirmed though. Hm. Maybe it was changed? :unsure:

Btw, here are the latest translations from Adventchildren.net

For some reason I find it really amusing to see Sephiroth talking and joking like a normal person. :giggle:

I think it was stated in the FFVII Ultimania Omega.

And thank you for this translation, yin-chan (well, thanks to Suzaku, too ^^).

I´m not annoyed with the Zeris in this game (it was obvious, after all), but HOW SE is making it... People falling from a church ceiling even THREE times sounds... lame, imo >.<

If I was Aeris, I would seriously consider chilling somehwere else before someone squashed me.

I can just imagine what she was thinking when Cloud fell through: ."Oh, damn, not again..."

I like how Aeris tells Zack he's lame. :lol: That's always how I imagined it happening...Zack repeatedly asking for a date until she finally caved in.

Zack is adorable my god.

Um...Kenshin called...

*dies* Soldier!Cloud is TEH CUTE!!

Am I the only one that's a bit bummed about this change? I prefered the "three men and one woman bound for destiny's core".

I definately prefer the first one they had. The second seems to just add more to the new "friendship" theme that the compilation has taken on. :/

Thanks for the translation, yin-chan.

Yep, I like the first tag-line way better than the current one. The first one has a poetic/mysterious feel to it, while the second one is plain..urghh..

:woot: *slaps self* Just noticed your hot hot siggie, CG ^^

Eee! Tank yous! :huggle: :wub:

Also worth mentioning is how they used the word "core" in the first. Just ties the title and the tagline together so nicely. :lol: Damn you Square! Being indecisive is MY job!

I agree that I definitely prefer the first tag line, only because it doesn't ignore Aerith and most of all, it's far more poetic. But I don't agree that the friendship theme of the compilation is a bad thing. In fact, for me the relationships between the characters, all of the characters was always a main focus of FF7 (and of course, how those relationships were lost, changed, grew stronger).

It was never soley about Aerith and Cloud's love, nor about Aerith's sacrifice and Cloud's loss. These were apart of the game, but to me friendship (something Cloud first gained through Zack, the one thing that kept him alive up until the beginning of the game, and found once again with his knew Avalanche family) was always all emcompassing. Cloud could never have saved the world in FF7 or AC without friendship.

I love to see that theme explored further in Crisis Core. In fact, I hope that they will touch more upon Cloud and Zack's friendship, because there wouldn't have been an FF7 without it (since Cloud would have been...you know...dead. Aerith would have never left Midgar. Sephiroth/Jenova would have probably found some other clone to give him the black materia = bye bye planet). I don't expect anything Clerisy since this was before Cloud and Aerith met.

As for the tagline, they most likely changed it because the count of males bound for destiny's core grew larger. You can't just change it from three to four, because subtle changes like that are pretty glaring and well...weird. The best course of action would be to just change the whole thing. But I do wish they would at least include Aerith in the new tagline, or make an entirely new one with her in it because (I think) she'll be important in the game...hopefully.

Why don't we just come up with our own taglines? lol

I didn't say that the friendship theme is bad. :lol: I personally like it just because it takes the focus off of romantic love and shows people that there is a such thing as having a friend so close, you'd die for them. I'm sick of the rabids thinking that close friends HAVE TO equal romance and/or hawt secks.