Hmmm... so we've started the Cetra Tyrant club... and seeing as how some people've wanted to remember those who've survived many a rabid LTD debate (including twisted prejudicism from the rabid side), this is a memorial to them! ^_^

Lots of love to all the veterans of these LT debates! :wub:

The old Gamefaqs Debate:
Perceivence (Seeker), Shroudedg (Shrouded Light), RaistlinM08 (Raist), Abelle (Lady Jade, Crisis), Alysandra (Anastar), Karma Hunter, Li Mu Bai, Invictus, Carlatta, eternal yuna, slyangelz, SuperCecil, Erin, and ariescelestial

The ACF Debate:
Enlightened (Shrouded Light), Slightly Angelic (Hades' Daughter), -Tipsy- (slowerthanaverage), Seii Monogatari, Anti-R, Kusari Yarou, Aerith_kun, Velvy, ~Cleara Aura~, Anastar, FF_Goddess, Evenstar, Mahou, Shadow Spirit, Light Bringer (Perceivence, Seeker), Silver Cloud (Jenova), Madame Batolli, yin-chan

The SSF Debate:
Shiva (FF_Goddess), Anastar, Crisis (Lady Jade, Abelle), Chaos Bringer (Shrouded Light), Forgotten Angel, Mizerable

The FF7AC.net Debate:
Phoenix Star (Anastar), Shrouded (Shrouded Light), Knowledge is Power (Perceivence, Seeker), Jum Jolly (RaistlinM08, Raist), Crisis (Lady Jade, Abelle), Kugo, Naru, Shiva (FF_Goddess)

The WoFF Debate:
Cloud Gainsborough, Sefie, Seii Monogatari, FF_Goddess, Materia Thief

Members
1. Bloodbath (Founder)
2. Granleon
3. Wingless
4. Anastar
5. Tacofoolio
6. FF_Goddess
7. i pRomiSe**
8. yin-chan
9. AerithResurrected
10. True Serenity
11. Materia Thief
12. Aerith_kun
13. Real_Emotion
14. Pyra Kurai Akaidra
15. NekoDono
16. Angelalex242
17. Angelwing Aeris

I'd like to show my appreciation! I was never brave enough to actually debate, so those who are willing to argue for CloudxAeris get my applause!

Sign me up, Hopeful_Angel! :lol:

All veterans of the debates and current debators need appreciation. ^_^ It's really hard to go out there and debate and hold your ground even in the face of prejudice and scorn. Hurray for our LTD fighters. :woot:

They've got my applause and my admiration as well. :D

Perhaps we should start compiling a list of the veterans who are being honored?

Wonderful idea, HA! Count me in! Many people have spent a great deal of time and energy supporting Cleris on different forums. Thanks to all those debaters for their help and their time!

Okay... here's a list as well as I can remember. (List revised on 8/28)

The old Gamefaqs Debate:
Perceivence (Seeker), Shroudedg (Shrouded Light), RaistlinM08 (Raist), Abelle (Lady Jade, Crisis), Alysandra (Anastar), Karma Hunter, Li Mu Bai, Invictus, Carlatta, eternal yuna, slyangelz, SuperCecil, Erin, and ariescelestial

The ACF Debate:
Enlightened (Shrouded Light), Slightly Angelic (Hades' Daughter), -Tipsy- (slowerthanaverage), Seii Monogatari, Anti-R, Kusari Yarou, Aerith_kun, Velvy, ~Cleara Aura~, Anastar, FF_Goddess, Evenstar, Mahou, Shadow Spirit, Light Bringer (Perceivence, Seeker), Madame Batolli

The SSF Debate:
Shiva (FF_Goddess), Anastar, Crisis (Lady Jade, Abelle), Chaos Bringer (Shrouded Light), Forgotten Angel, Mizerable

The FF7AC.net Debate:
Phoenix Star (Anastar), Shrouded (Shrouded Light), Knowledge is Power (Perceivence, Seeker), Jum Jolly (RaistlinM08, Raist), Crisis (Lady Jade, Abelle), Kugo, Naru, Shiva (FF_Goddess)

The WoFF Debate:
Cloud Gainsborough, Sefie, Seii Monogatari, FF_Goddess, Materia Thief

Please add on to the list, coz I'm sure there's names I haven't remembered! And add other debates, too!

I'll join! I have considered doing debates, but I decided to wait until after AC. I admire everyone who put in such time and effort to debating the cause, and I'm impressed by the solid evidence everyone has. :huggle: :cleris: :huggle: :cleris: :huggle: :cleris: Cleris and huggles to you all!

Yay, more members. ^_^

Oh, wasn't Cleara Aura also one of the LTD fighters for ACF, Aly?

We'll have to make sigs soon too. :woot:

I'm in!! xD You all deserve our appreciation and support!!

Hum, what about Sefie? I thought she was in one of those... :unsure:

Hey, sign me up! I am all for my fellow LTD warriors. :lmao:

Ooh, sign me up! <3

YES! Thank you! I knew I was forgetting names! :blush:

I believe that was at Cloud G's forum, wasn't it? I think Cloud G, Sefie, and Seii joined in on that debate, but I wasn't there. Fill me in... who else was there? :woot:

I don't really know. :lol: I was wondering who all the veterans were, but thought it rude to put up a notice : WHO ARE ALL THE VETERANS HERE?!? RAISE YOU'RE RIGHT FOOT IF YOU ARE!

^_^

Oooh... a siggy, a siggy! I'll tackle one... anyone else?

I added a list of veterans to your first post, HA. :)

If anyone notices any omissions or corrections, please let me know! That's all from memory, so there could easily be mistakes.

Awww... thanks Aly! :huggle: I'm much too lazy to copy and paste from your post... :whistle:


Oh... and... :blush: The idea was brought up by someone in your club - YOOOOURS!!! - and since no one was going to create it... here it is! :woot:

First priority... uh... what? :unsure:

Awesomeness! I could never think of anything substantial to say in LTD debates, so my respect goes out to those who do!!! :lol:

Sign me up!!! :wub:

Welcome to the club, yin-chan!

I also keep revising it as I think of more names! :blush: I was never at the WOFF debate. Maybe Seii remembers who all was there. :unsure:

Yep, I remember! I meant to do it myself, but I got busy with other stuff and forgot. :blush: So I'm glad you started it! :huggle:

How about some banners? :D

Oh, sign me in!! I really want to show my appreciation for them, because they have put so much into it!! Cloud and Aeris would be proud. :cleris:

Well, I remember the debate five years ago, back before it was organized. Back when anti sites popped up each week. Five years ago was when I was still wondering which side I supported and was on the opposite side at first, but soon came to the good side after replaying the game again. So I've been on both sides of the debate.

Count me in -- I greatly appreciate LTD fighters! Those who argue for CloudxAeris are courageous, awesome, and my heroes. :angel: Huge respect.. I should go fight for them also. Heck, I should've done a long time ago, but I never knew that there are still LTD in forums. <_<

Oh, the LTD has never stopped. LOL! You can find LT debates on most Final Fantasy forums. The one at ACF has been going for a long time.

I'll join as I've seen how hard it is on them in there. :huggle:

You've gotten three of them for WoFF Anastar, but you're missing me and FFG. :lol:

Thank you! I was never at the WoFF debate, so I wasn't sure who was there. I'll add both of you right now. :huggle:

And I know that aeriscloud was in a debate somewhere. Does anyone know where she was debating? :unsure:

So many people involved... :lol:

I'll have to record everyone now... ookay... wait a moment... maybe after the exams. I am currently sitting in illegal grounds - anywhere near my computer. :ph43r:

Sincerely, like True_Serenity, I didn't know that LTDs are still very active. :unsure: I thought they would've died down a bit... but I guess not. I visited WoFF as a guest much before... and it seemed pretty tame. Is it still tame now? :ermm:

Check with Seii about the WoFF debate. I know some rabid Cloti's like CIML were in there for awhile, but Cloud G. banned them for flaming. I'm not sure what it's like now.

Things will change after we know what AC tells us about the LT. Who knows? It'll either shut everyone up with conclusive evidence for one side, or it'll be inconclusive and make everything worse. :lmao:

I still wonder which forum aeriscloud and her friend were debating at? :unsure:

The ACF LT debate's calmed down for now because he sane Clerises and Clotis are actually getting along.

Yay, I'm appreciated!

*LOL* Holy crap! Other than the one at WOFF, I'm on every single debate. o_0 *LOL* Since I've been on every single one, I'll give a lil bit of info on some of the debaters I've met. It's also my way of letting them know how much I appreciated having their help in the LTD. ^_^

Perceivence: One of the very first Cleris who didn't care that he was the only one defending cleris in the LTD. Very smart and crafty. He has this unique talent where he can get you to agree with him without you being aware of it. :lmao:

Alysandra: C'mon, does she really need an introduction?? She's Anastar!!! Calm, collected and always in control of the situation. The lady was born to lead a revolution. Intelligent,determined, and resourceful, she's one of the best cleris you could ever have as an ally.

Karma Hunter: A philosopher who wrote an essay called "Fairy Tales: Pragmatism VS Idealism". One of the best essays I've read in the past. Most clotis have a hard time dealing with him due to his philosophical views.

RaistlinM08 :An intellectual who doesn't back down on any rabid who crosses his path. A perfect balance of good and evil. He can be calm when needed but can explode when it's necessary. Is also a philosophist.

Abelle:Don't let her sweetness fool you. Along with her vast knowledge of the LTD, she has an incredibly sharp wit that would put any rabid clotis to shame. Works well under pressure and knows how to take control of the debate.

Li Mu Bai: Be very careful with this guy. He's one of the few people who had really mastered the art of dissecting one's post. It's all over once he finds a hole in your logic.

Invictus: Uncontrollable and unpredictable. The true bain of the Rabid Clotis.Heck, even the mods couldn't stop him. What more can I say??

FF_G: *HEH* I remember Aly telling me that a lone cleris was looking for other Cleris people to help her in an LTD. Who would have thought that the lone cleris would be none other than FFG herself?? *LOL* I remember asking Aly if she's really sure that FF_G wanted help because she was slaughtering every single Cloti all by herself!

Slowerthanaverage:The sharpshooter. You won't really see her in the spotlight, but you know that she's always there watching your back. Ready to save you whenever you're in a bind. Those who ignore her presence in a debate doesn't have a clue on what she's capable of and how much damage she can do just by being there. :lmao:

Seii: Funny and witty. One of the clerisers who can hold her ground against a mob full of clotis without flinching. Very capable of taking down a cloti due to her observant nature. More than a match to any cloti.

Anti-R: She's one of the clerisers who keeps the clotis at bay and makes sure that the cleris' voice will continue to be present in adventchildren.net.

Cleara Aura: A long time vet of the LTD who will always support you and will never abandon you even if you're outnumbered. A very reliable debater with a big heart and a strong spirit.

Slightly Angelic: She has Anastar's determination and FF_G's fierceness. Branding her own style of wits and logic that kept the clotis off-guard in ACF makes her a force to be reckoned with.

Many huggles to Shrouded! :huggle: Since he left himself out of the list:

Shrouded Light: He's been our backbone in many a debate. Somehow, he always knows what the Cloti's will do before they even do it. :lol: He quickly adapts to anything the Cloti's can dish out - from flaming and bashing to bias, sarcasm, and debate. No matter what the Cloti's give him, he never shrinks from a fight. He's always ready to make you laugh in the face of a rabid Cloti. Cleris people can always rely on Shrouded for support, caring, a quick mind, and a good laugh. Thanks for everything, Shrouded! :huggle:

Waw, thanks to Anastar for advise me :huggle: ... It´s a very good job! :gift:

I will join, too! :cleris:

Awww... :blush: *Tackle-glomps Shrouded* :huggle:

I can't really believe that FF_G was a lonely Cleris defending her fave couple at one point in the LTD war. :lmao: But surely the last part! :huggle:

::looks list up and down:: That's a lot of veterans, no? :woot:

Well, I'd like to extend my hand to the people who were involved for the CxA support way before I came along. They truly have my respect, especially when I admit there is a huge Cloid and Tifa following when FFVII is new, and I never really cared back then...

But with AC came along my love for this couple was ignited. Truly awesome experience meeting you all. Cleris and Clotis alike...

Erm...could someone take my name off that Veteran's list? I'm a very active lurker but I don't debate :blush:

Don't be humble. :P


You are on that list for a reason. :huggle:

Wow, I sound like an elite RPG character. :woot:

I'll work on yours! :whistle:

This topic needs to be bump because I know that some debaters are already on the battlefield.

You guys rock!!!

My...I didn't realize there was a club for the LTD fighters here... :)

Thank you all for taking some time to do this for all of us. We really appreciate this, but we're able to debate as is, because we've all learned so much from one another. In reality, our whole Cleris family is involved with the LTD.
I also really appreciate the help I've gotten from people like Shrouded, my sisters, and others at ACF. You guys are all awesome! :huggle:

*smacks Shrouded*
Ack...Hardly! Why all the exaggeration on my part?! :ermm:
You guys are the true, respect-worthy veterans here.

Invictus recently joined this forum. He kicked some serious CloTi ass at the LTD at GameFAQs. :devil: Everyone say hi to Invictus!

Oooh no wonder right before I logged off yesterday night I saw the name Invictus in the list of active members!! :woot:

Wow...I feel so honoured to be in the presence of a pro... :blush:

Hello invictus if you're reading this! :lol:

:lmao: You are making me sound like some radioactive mutant.
I don't deserve this honour.
Then again, thanks very much to everyone who has participated in the LTD... it's all good fun (abeit slightly annoying at times lol). To the veterans especially ( I cannot be considered one since, like Anti-R, the debating thingy really ignited with AC.) kudos to you :gift: *coughcan'twaittoseeinvictusinactioncough*

Shrouded light is like what his nick suggests, always lurking in the background, but can radiate (cloti-)blinding light when needed. Heehee, he will always be one of the people I admire really... I recall when I first started debating..it was an innocent attempt trying to correct some twisted views of the FFVII LTD. Who could have guessed that within mins, I was being dragged down this huge dark hole, until shrouded came along and made every cloti quiet. :huggle:

Also to my frequent companions on the LTD thread, thanks for being there. Your voice, your humor, your amazing knowledge on the game (which I seriously lack lol, ask me to pull out any line from FFVII I can only tell you "I think I can meet her there" ) are very much appreciated. Don't let others' harsh opinions affect you, you know you are better than that (Becos, we don't take internet seriously do we? hehe) and know that you are much <3 by me.

Seii: Funny and witty. One of the clerisers who can hold her ground against a mob full of clotis without flinching. Very capable of taking down a cloti due to her observant nature. More than a match to any cloti.

Aww, shucks, Shroudster!! :huggle: