We all want Cloud and Aerith to be successful.

But have you ever considered what that would mean in reality? What life would be like for Cloud and the girl who 'lives' in his soul?

Present...in your own words...what you think a day in the life of Cloud with SpiritAerith would be like. Whether it's a week after AC or a year after AC.

Assume her soul and consciousness lives in his soul (instead of the lifestream) and can manifest whenever she wants (or he wants). (and I've more or less proven that this is the case anyway)

While I do agree your theory about this is pretty much possible, I somehow doubt Aerith is able to manifest whenever she (or he) wants. For example, how you said it's possible for Aerith to appear in Cloud's house and kiss him goodbye, then dissapear and reappear when he gets back - I don't really see the possiblity of that.

I do think she is able to continue appearing to him - but just not to the degree of living a normal 'everyday' life.

However.

:lol: I've always imagined them spending their days in the flowerfield, whenever Cloud rides out to those fields and sits quietly for a while, then Aerith will appear and they'll sit and talk and laugh and reminisce of the past - and Cloud will fall asleep in her lap. :giggle:

Oh dear, such wishful thinking. No doubt it would make Cloud a very contented and fulfilled soul if he was able to see her like that, and all his guilt would slowly but surely, completely dissapear over a period of time. ^_^

I agree with yin-chan on the way she imagines their day in the flowerfield. especially about the part where he falls asleep in her lap As for me, I think that they are somewhat far from the period when couples allows themselves kissing. The fact that he makes this long way to that field (we see him starting early in the morning and end at the middle of the day) itself means a lot. He needs her near but he has to drive a lot to reach her spirit. Why those difficulties? Because it's beatiful and romantic.

Back to the topic, I really see them meeting mostly there. They can also just seat back to back and watch the sky. As someone said "There is nothing more beautiful then the conversation between two lovers that are silent". And I agree with that. If two persons have something to be silent about that means they're good for each other.
Why I imagine that? Well, maybe because only Aerith can make him feel free and feel him being himself and not someone else (no, I'm not hinting :D ). If not just watching the sky then maybe some light chatting. I think we all know that they have a lot to speak about.
I hope it makes at least some sense.

Let's see. In the FF7 reminiscence, Cloud says he's taking the WHOLE DAY off.

So he apparently is going to be able to manifest her for at least that long.

Let's see...probably, the first thing that happens...he didn't get much of a chance to hold her during the movie. He wouldn't miss out on the chance then. The embrace might last for...I'm not sure how long...it could be 10 minutes, could be 30...could be an hour. When I roleplay Cloud, I usally have Aerith's death make a difference on how he treats her.

Aerith might scold him...might tell him if he'd forgiven himself sooner he could've had this two years ago. That perhaps it was his pain and regret that kept her from being able to come to him like this. Scold him in her dilly dally shilly shally way.

Cloud might tell her he canceled all his appointments for the day. Aerith might want to reassure him she's real, and would probably make make a point of touching him early and often.

Cloud might start to talk about the past with Aerith...about all the things he wanted to do with her that he never had the chance to do, of what he would've done if she'd never died, of how things might've been. Aerith'll stop that sort of depressing talk by putting a finger on his lips and telling him, "Shh. Don't tell me how things might've been. Tell me how things will be from now on..."

I don't think Cloud would be able to use the l word the first day...but he'd be able to say something like, "I missed you." Aerith is perceptive enough to know what he really means. So she might smack his arm and say, "You're STILL too big to adopt."

"So what're you going to do with me then?" She'll smile, caress his face with a hand, and mention, "Oh, I'll think of something. You're a handful though, Cloud." "And what am I going to do with you?" Ever so innocently she smiles and says, "Anything you want." "Stay with me." "...I'm always inside you Cloud." "I mean...stay with me. Forever." "I'm already there." She taps his chest. "In there. I'm in my promised land. I chose to do something different with my concsiousness...my soul...then other people." "Your soul is in me?" "Of course it is, Mr. Shilly Shally. How do you think I appear to you like this and nobody else can see me? I felt what you wanted. So I gave myself to you." "And Zack?" "Oh, he went back to the lifestream. I just pulled him up to comfort you. He was tied to you, because you tried to be him for a while, but you let him go. You never let me go."

"So you gave yourself to me." "...Yes. In a more literal way then that usually implies. And if you dare say anything about not deserving me I'm going to pin you down and tickle you." "You're going to pin me down, hmmm?" "Yup! You're not so tough. I could take you anytime." Cloud looks skeptical. Aerith takes his wrists and pushes him backwards, gently, towards the ground...lying admist the flowers. Cloud finds himself helpless to resist. It doesn't matter how many Bahamuts or Sephiroths he fights, he's helpless against this one. So she drapes herself on top of him, and whispers, "See? I win...I'm in your soul...and I gave you mine. There's nothing I can't do, once your heart and soul are ready..."

Cloud, still 'pinned' relaxes. "Then...show me what I'm ready for..."

(Anyone wanna continue my story?)

Hmm.. whenever I think of Cloud and Aeris together.. after her death.. I always think of them as having little time to spend together.
Sitting/ standing next to one another in a calm place, relaxing, reminising about the past and present a little. And eventhough they don't show it they are dreading when the time between them is up.
Their love is shy and somewhat hidden. Eventhough Aeris acts the way she does being somewhat to the point, their feelings are still a sensitive subject. It's all very sweet and child like. ^_^


~YnA

Sephiroth was able to come back to the living so it is possible for Aerith to come back. I dont know who runs the afterlife but im sure the powers at would find someway to allow Aerith to be part of the living. remember, she was there with the children at the end of final fantasy Advent Children but I always wonder if Cloud was the only one capable of seeing her since nobody else noticed that Aerith was back :unsure:

I agree with YamiNoAeris

I also picture them in a flower field and cloud just relaxing and her spirit watching him, but yet for him to know that she is there if he wanted to talk, but their love is so much louder than spoken words that conversation is not needed. He will catch a swift of her scent and that would make him smile. He will then chuckle and say something like "I know you are there" and smile. :D and then when their time is up and it's time for him to leave, he will turn around and look at the flowers and whisper the words "soon." And with that, Aeris will smile and wait for him until they meet again.

:cleris:

I AM IN LOVE!!!!!!!!!!!!! :fangirl:

Do you really think it's possible that Aerith could of came back in the time before the human race was extinct or that Cloud visited her in those flower fields until the day he died?

you mean time travel? there was no indication of time travel posibilities in Final Fantasy7. Only in FF8 was time travel possible

oh no that's not what I meant lol, I worded it wrong. You know how at the end of FF 7 it's like 500 years later and the human race is probably extinct, there are some people who think that Cloud moved on with Tifa in that time, and some people think that he visited Aerith in the flower field until the day he died and some people think that Aerith came back somehow and I was just asking if anyone here really thought that Aerith came back, some people do believe that but I don't think so.

This thread assumes Aerith was never ressurrected, but appeared to Cloud in spirit form for the rest of his life.

The though of Aerith's spirit manifesting itself whenever Cloud wants to see her is a wonderful thought, but I still wonder about the loving "family" Cloud now has with Tifa, Marlene and Denzel. To what extent does Cloud have to move on with his newfound life as his guilt has gone and sins have been forgiven?

And Barret. Musn't forget BARRET. You know, Marlene's DAD?? *pats him*

Anyways, I expect Cloud to be more of a family man after this, taking more days off to spend more time with Tifa and the kids. It's Cloud, I expect no less from him. But that doesn't mean he has to move on romantically though. And since this thread assumes Aerith is able to manifest for him, I see no reason for him to move on romantically with Tifa either.
And I suppose he'll continue his Delivery Service - he also shows no sign of wanting to quit that, as enforced by Calling with him travelling the world, the memories of Aerith by his side. :fangirl:

Poor Barret. You'd think a gunarm would get you remembered in the minds of people, but noooooo.

But yes, that's exactly it. Not all relationships need to be of the physical sort we're used to. Look beyond...to something better, perhaps, for poor old Cloud.

That is so cute!!!! :cleris:

And I've never seen Reminiscense of Final Fantasy.
Can anyone give me a link so I can watch it?

you haven't gotten the english version of advent children? Reminecsence is on the dvd as an extra bonus. It's on the Japanese version too.

Of course I didn't forget :barret:'s place in the family. This site shares some views http://midgar-rock.org/family/info.php?others

I went to that site before and I found it interesting that Barrett is usually nowhere in the picture and that only these 4 are depicted as "the family." I guess atleast the site mentioned the others, but I feel the fact that Cloud is pictured with everyone at the end and not only Tifa, Marlene, and Denzel as he was in a previous picture shows that not only these 3 are his family, but they all are a part of his family even if Tifa and Cloud are standing in the middle I don't quite understand how that the three of them are any more a part of his family then the rest of them. The flowers show that even Aerith is a part of his family, which is something that she wanted as she said in MOTP she expressed that she wants to be known as being a part of his family or something like that. I guess I would love to see a site for once that has his entire family. I see that she mentions how Barrett has left to find himself and settle his past, but Cloud is never around himself, he's always out and about doing deliveries and such. My interpretation could be wrong though. I guess by the end of AC I saw everyone as his family and I feel that now they will be together even more, as suggested in reminescence he is probably taking a day off to spend with everyone.

I'd consider Barret more a freind of Cloud than a family member, although the line gets a tad blurry at times.

At any rate, it's not Barret so much I want to look at.

I want to look at the beauty of CloudxSpirtAerith snuggling in a flowerfield.

that's scary, I killed you but now I want to snuggle with you in a flower field lol

Cloud didn't kill her, he just almost did. Sephiroth killed her.

Sorry, I just gotta say it... It's sorta funny how they had to cut out Cloud from the original picture that's in the banner and put a different one. Perhaps because he looked just a tad bit miserable? :giggle: *shuts up about that subject*

About Cloud and Aerith after AC... it's hard to guess. Honestly, I don't think Aerith can just appear to Cloud whenever she feels like it. Yes, she lives on inside of him, but she is still a ghost. And ghosts don't just manifest themselves physically when ever they feel like it.

Since Aerith, however, does live on inside of Cloud (oh, thank you for the confirmation, Nomura!!), I think that maybe she can appear to him in his dreams. Maybe if he's in pain or needs someone, he'll dream of being in the flower field, Aerith there to ease his suffering. That'd be sweet. :cleris:

Well, CoT defines family in their case as friends coming together in time of need...so I would definitely consider Barret a family member to Cloud. Also, Tifa states that Cloud and Barret are both family to her. Not only that, but in the first place, all three (Cloud, Barret, Tifa) had specifically come together to form a family.

I find it amusing that some Clotis would consider just those 4 as part of the "true" family, yet at the same time, admit that Barret is really Marlene's father and not Cloud. How does that work? o_O

lol I'm so sorry I don't know what I was reading. For some reason I thought that said Seph and Aerith I guess I looked at spirit real fast and thought it said Seph. Ok I think I need to go to bed now because I'm seeing things lol.

in reply to msz aerith strife, I am one of the ones that think she can manifest when she wants to and not only in Cloud's dreams. It wasn't a dream at the end of AC when she was in the church so I don't see why she couldn't do that same thing again.

I have a theory on this. I posted the basic jist of it in the thread "How real is Aerith?" So I'll copy and paste there what pertains to the discussion here.

Another part of my theory involves how and when Cloud can see Aerith. Can he contact her anytime he wants to? IMO, no. I believe that if there is enough Lifestream in the area, Aerith's spirit can be present, and that's when Cloud "sees" her. In AC, the first time he sees her is when he's on his way to the Forgotten Capital. Since it was a city once infested with Cetra, it makes sense that there would be an abundance of Lifestream here, thereby allowing Aerith to take form. He also takes her hand in the Bahamut SIN fight... As far as I can tell, Cloud was pretty much on the verge of death here, and that's why he saw her. Everything goes white, and he is going through Bahamut's fireball (or whatever you want to call it). That's why Lifestream seems to pulsate across his arm when their hands touch, bringing him back to life. She heals his Geostigma through Great Gospel which looks a lot like Lifestream and water mixed together as seen in this screenshot. When he gets shot, he's clearly on the verge of death or dead already which is why Aerith can touch his forehead. Lastly, the pool of water in the church, I'm assuming, has Lifestream in it which allows her to appear in the room. Also, Midgar had just been doused with Lifestream rain. And let's not forget the only time Cloud "sees" Aerith after she dies in the game, he had just been surrounded by streams of the planet's energy. As far as I can tell, Aerith is always able to be present when Cloud's surrounded by an abundance of Lifestream.

In that case...I can totally see Cloud going to live in highly Lifestream oriented areas. If that's the case. The flower field we last see Aerith in isn't necessary lifestream, though. And Bahamut Sin's...which I will call 'MegaFlare' out of tradition...doesn't necessarily make him dead. Aerith isn't a walking spiritual phoenix down, she was using Fury Brand vs. Bahamut SIN. That's why Cloud limits right afterwards.

I see your point msz aerith strife, but I also thought about what angelalex pointed out, she was standing in a flowerfield during the credits. Your theory is does make a lot of sense though.

I'm not totally familar with the exacts of your theory, Alex, (though I'd love to read it if you wrote an essay of it or something) but I do agree with you to a degree. Since Aerith and Cloud are so close, it makes sense that a part of Aerith's spirt resides in Cloud's, just as I'm sure, a part of his is with hers. That's the beauty of their realtionship, that its a spiritual love. *sighs romantically*

Mmmm...it's been a long time since I've been asked to go into deep thinker mode. Alright. Let me pull up my original essay from the Northern Crater formus.

This is my initial essay.

Again and again I see focus on the body.

Let me therefore rectify this.

Well.

The thing is, we're dealing with a world of magic. A whole lot of magic. Aerith herself has channeled more magic then anyone else in the game, including Sephiroth. (Holy+Lifestream>Meteor, clearly.)

So who can say what is or is not physically possible within a world where real life rules needn't necessarily apply?

Also...one must also consider the possibility of something more satisfying...physically and spiritually...then sex itself. Remember, magic is quite possible, and reality can be altered.

Suppose, for example, that Aerith can't physically strip naked and let Cloud ravish her, but can instead take advantage of the fact she's a spirit to do something else to him.

Suppose she can completely merge her spirit with his. Suppose she can send her soul to touch the spiritual part of Cloud. Suppose they join minds too, creating a telepathic bond as their souls are joined. Suppose, therefore, they no longer have to tell eachother how they feel. They just know. How much more intimate would it be to let your soul completely join with someone else's? How much more vulnerable would you be, since you can't hide anything? How much more truthful would you be?

In real life, it is not possible to have your soul completed in such a way...but thankfully, we're dealing with magic just now, so suppose she can literally complete his soul...thereby wiping away every problem he has, by completing him, letting him feel peace, happiness, and so on.

Are they missing out on sex now? Certainly not. They have an upgraded version of sex! Bodies can only express intimacy so well, but souls...well, binding those together has to be far more intimate.

But how is this possible?

The Lifestream is already a 'bonding of souls' on a macro scale. 'Returning to the Planet' is simply allowing one's self to fully experience the souls of the world...the 'Promised Land' for most people, therefore, is simply unity with everyone else. It is the soul bond I speak of on a massive scale. That's why it's referred to as the Promised Land...or an equivalent of Heaven. I would assume there's no debate on this.

However, what we are trying to show is that Aerith has done this on a microscale...on a 1 to 1 basis...with Cloud. That instead of joining the Promised Land of the Planet, her Promised Land is instead Cloud, and so she merged her consciousness with him the way normal souls do with the Planet...producing everything I describe above. Because Cloud can see her whenever he desires, the merging is complete, and his happiness is explained.

As for FEELING Aerith...well, I believe I just explained that, as a spirit, Aerith can do a bit better then simply making herself available to feel.

Whoa. :o You really did put a lot of thought into this, and I must say, its very convincing, and it makes a lot of sense. That kind of connection would be the ultimate bond right there. I think I agree with you that this is very possible. Maybe at first, Cloud was unaware of Aerith's presence inside of him, and then after the events of AC, since he figured it out, he's obviously doing so much better. Ah, yes, I believe you have converted me! ^_^