I was going to make this into a poll, but the polls won't work on this version of Invision Board. At any rate, I was wondering what the majority of Cloud x Aerith people would *like* to see. I really doubt that Square will resurrect Aerith in AC, but if you were writing the plot instead of Square, would you write it so that Aerith got resurrected somehow so that she could be with Cloud? Or would you rather see Cloud and Aerith re-united in some other way?

Personally, I'd love to see Aerith ressurected. I don't understand why all these people say that her revival would "ruin her death". How would it ruin her death? She sacrificed herself for the common good sure, but doesn't she deserved to be rewarded for her service to the world?

Personally i'd hate it.

I really do hate plots where someone comes back from the dead it just annoys me, ruins a good plot and FF7 is above that. But i can understand why others would enjoy it.

Personally i want to see Aeris through Cloud. Through his thoughts and dreams etc and then meeting in the lifestream after dying at the hands of Sepiroth or something like that.

And Tifa finally understanding and letting CLoud go to Aeris.

But hey we don't always get what we want right?

i am not exactly for aerith resurrection as well. instead, i would like cloud to die. i love tragic stories. heehee
cloud is such a hot bishie.. wahh i love his melancholic eyes... oops sorry, slightly off topic

I agree with slowerthanaverage. I'd rather see Cloud die than Aerith resurrected, well, because I love tragedies. :lol:

It would probably be... uhm... too "fairy-tale-like" if Aerith is resurrected, you know? For me, at least...

I wouldn't mind seeing her resurrected if it were done in the right way. It'd be very stupid for them to go up to the lake, drag her body out, and cast Revive on her, for example. That'd be like... why didn't you do that two years ago? :lol:

It'd have to be something more like an unexpected result of what the SHM were doing to the Lifestream. They attempt to bring back Sephiroth, and they end up bringing back Aerith, too. It would be unexpected to Cloud and the others, then Cloud would be faced with trying to protect Aerith from the SHM at the same time he was trying to defeat Sephy and the SHM. It's not til the end of the movie that Cloud and Aerith finally get time alone. :rolleyes:

If they worked a resurrection into the storyline in a way similar to that, I wouldn't mind it at all. It would all depend on the way Square handled it.

Personally as i said before i don't care how they do it i still don't want it done.

Because like Zhakeena and slowerthanaverage have already said it would just seem fairy tale like and not tragic and heart wrenching.

And i just can't see anyway of doing it that would stop this from happening. They must meet in death to make it tragic.

Yes, but if I had my choice, I'd rather it NOT be tragic. ;)

I fully expect Square to go with a tragic ending, and so I doubt very much that they will revive her. But if I had my choice, I'd rather that Aerith be alive again. For that matter, I'd rather that she were never killed in the first place.

Kingdom Hearts is for people like me who want the happy ending. :lol:

I'm with Aly! Ressurect her in a neato way that has everything to do with the plot so it can be happy and not cheesy!
I'd love a ressurection, but also for him to die. I'd prefer a ressurection, but it probably won't happen.

I'm with Sefie. Either way works for me. AS LONG AS CLOUD IS WITH AERITH!!!!! :wub:

Hmmm, Aeris being revived, I got mixed feelings on that too. I too think it would be a little cheezy if she came back just like that, yet I don't want Cloud to die either. I'll just hope that something happy will happen...

If I were the scriptwriter for Advent Children, I'd probably just kill Cloud... coz at this point in time, I think the only way for him to finally see her again completely is through death.
For those people who don't like the idea of death, well... :P heheh. Death is only the beginning, right? ;) Heheh.

I'm not sure if it's such a good idea to have Aeris be ressurected. I mean I'd love it and it'd be nice if her and Cloud could be together in life but somehow it just wouldn't be the same. I think it'd be really sweet for them to reunite in death but still... I really don't want Cloud to die. :( Ugh I don't know it's so confusing... I guess I'm just gonna have to wait and see and hope that Square comes up with something good. :P

I agree. If she is revived it should be in some big dramatic way not some cheap, boring way. Also if she is revived it should be permanent not just for a few days or something like that. I think it should be forever so they can be together forever.

I don't mind. As long as we see Aerith :) I like both solutions

-if she stays dead: well...everyone has to die and mourn for someone loved...But I don't want Cloud to die for her. Life is such a precious gift, we/Cloud shouldn't waist it. If Aerith would say this in AC I would be glad :) . Well that's my point of view.

-if she is revived: I'd like to see something beautiful, with a pure Aerith, the lifestreal and magic...and Cloud& co looking like :blink: lol
It's a final fantasy after all, everything is possible!

I don't understand why Sephiroth's ressurection is a regular thing but not Aerith's.
They are both dead! If he is revived why should *her* ressurection be a shame???

Actually, I don't think Sephiroth has been resurrected. He said, "I won't become a memory", which suggests that he is nothing more than a spirit. In the flower field scene, Aerith speaks with Cloud and touches his arm. That means that a spirit is capable of speaking with a living person and is capable of physical interaction with a living person. Sephiroth spoke to Cloud and is about to do battle with him, which is another form of physical interaction with a living person. Both Aerith and Sephiroth are capable of the same interactions with living persons, and so they may both be spirits.

Besides... how do we know that it isn't Jenova manifested as Sephiroth? :rolleyes:

Even if they do bring back Sephiroth and he is able to fight with Cloud physically, I don't see how they could stop Aerith from coming back.

But I think a long time ago I read something from the staff and they said they wouldn't bring Aerith back simply because it would lessen the meaning of her sacrifice for the planet. Yet they can hint at Sephiroth coming back and leave all of us Aerith fans behind? <_<

I think I would prefer Cloud dying. For me, that is just complete proof that him and Aerith wil be together and in love forever in peace with nothing in their way. Because in life, they could have many problems. Maybe Tifa will get jealous enough to do something? What if one of them dies again? And so on. They would be happy as well but there would be pain. And in the lifestream with them being each other's promised lands, there won't be pain.

*stupid question*
Maybe Cloud won't go in any promised land once he died??? Maybe only cetras go there?

I didn't finished FF7 yet; moreover the french translation is AWFUL lol

That's a question many have asked. There's only one place where we get any indication that only Cetra's can go to the Promised Land, and that's in something Elder Hargo says:

"No, no, it does exist. Hmmm... you can say that."
"There is no one place called the Promised Land. That's what I believe."
"In other words, it doesn't exist for us, but it did for the Ancients."
"The Promised Land is the resting place of the Ancients."

People take his words about it not existing for us to mean that we can't get to it. But I always took that to mean that the idea of it only existed for the Ancients as part of their culture. Isn't that similar to saying that Heaven only exists for the Christians? Doesn't the idea of Heaven also exist in other religions and other cultures, but just by a different name?

Besides, at the end of FFVII, Cloud says, "I think I can meet her.... there" in reference to the Promised Land. Why would he say that if there was no way for him to do it? Apparently, he believes that he is able to do it.

I think they have brought her back in the same form that they brought Sephy back. I think they're both spirits with the same capabilities. At the Northern Crater in FFVII, Hojo said this about Sephiroth:

Hojo "But being a genius that I am, I soon figured it out. You see it was all Sephiroth's doing." "Sephiroth is not just content to diffuse his will into the Lifestream; he wants to maniplate the Clones himself."

I think the same thing is going on here... Sephiroth's will hasn't diffused into the Lifestream, which allows him to manifest physically.

Waaaaaait a minute, waaaaait a minute. Lil lightbulb just went off. Sephiroth was really DEAD through FF7, yet he was there, like Aly said....*trying to think* So, if Aeris' will could be the same...she could very well come back that way! I mean, Sephiroth pretty much willed himself back to life, why couldn't Aeris? It's kinda a trend with SE I think, the will being stronger than the physical world. Like in KH, the Beast willed himself to the Hollow Bastion, needing no Gummy Ship.
Maybe Aeris will will herself back to life to help Cloud!

Well, I don't think Sephy really willed himself back to *life*... I think his will is powerful enough to manifest in the physical world, yet he's only a spirit. Aerith's will was powerful enough to guide the Lifestream after death. It was also said at the Temple of Ancients that the guardian spirits of the Temple who were Cetra hadn't returned to the Planet by strength of will. If your will is strong enough, your spirit is able to have effect on the physical world.

I don't mind seeing Aerith getting revived or Cloud dying. If Aerith's gonna get revived, Square won't be stupid enough to make her revival untouching, easy or whatever. And if Cloud dies, it's actually a very good thing, the CloTi's wouldn't be able to continue their love for CloudxTifa coz most of them don't seem to like
necropheliac relationships. =D
What I'll love to see, is Aerith and Cloud is the Promised Land. It'll be really beautiful.

But Aerith's death was dead important. I think theres a big chance Aerith woudn't get revived, but her spirit will be very well, alive. The Japanese take japanese culture really seriously, and her sacrifice has a very important meaning to the game.

LOL @ above quote!

Sorry, just sounded funny! But you're right her sacrifice WAS important, and I'd love to have kept Aerith alive or have her resurrected, however after thinking about it, would I love her character as much as I do now if she hadn't died? No.

I love her more than Tifa for making a sacrifice of her OWN life to save others, rather than Tifa's sacrifice of the WHOLE planet just to stay with Cloud.

I probably would still love Aerith more than Tifa if she'd stayed alive, but the whole meaning behind her death and the way she continues to support Cloud through death makes her such a strong willed character.

Not to say I wouldn't like her to be resurrected, but either way I'm happy...just remmeber Aerith's last words to Cloud:

"Then, I'll be going now. I'll come back when it's all over."

I have to admit that one of my favorite essays about Cloud and Aerith is the Fairy-tale essay, so I don't have a problem with a fairy-tale ending that rewards them for their constancy, personally.

For me if they bring Sephiroth back, Aerith needs to be brought back to an equal degree to avoid cheapening her death by making it for nothing. It cheapens her sacrifice more to me if they have Sephiroth able to manifest in reality and cause destruction, as she died to stop him in the first place. There are loopholes for the writers, like making this not the real Sephiroth, etc. But if it is him manifested again, I'd like to see Aerith given a similar second chance to directly affect things.

On the whole I prefer her being ressurected. As this is a professional story, I trust the authors to be able to actually write and not do it in a silly way. If Cloud dies... well, it just shouldn't be because he's given up and wants to die to be with Aerith. (As a mortal wound from battle is fine, for example.) I understand the tradition of suicide for love in Japanese culture, but I don't think it's quite fitting in this case and hope the story doesn't go that route. Life is precious to Aerith... she would give her own to protect it. Aerith is not the kind of character who would want Cloud to give up on it.

So long as it's done well, I'm good with either on the whole.

If Aeris was to come back, I wouldn't mind. Other characters from other game who were dead came back. And like these characters, Aeris made a deep impact on Cloud. There is a lot of mysteries shrouded around the lifestream and the Promise Land, so I would just expect the unexpected.

It wouldn't ruin the story nor make it quite cheesy. Its true that Aeris's sacrifice meant a lot to the world. But I feel that her world was ripped apart from her very eyes. She gave everything up for everybody in that planet to live. And like Cloud would say, we wouldn't be able to see her laugh, cry, be happy, or get mad.
Although it isn't confirmed if that's the real Sephi. or not, if he should come back,so should Aeris.

Cloud and Aeris are like two world aparts. So close to each other, yet so far away. I would want them to have their worlds reunited again, just as it was meant. :P

I think Aeris won´t be resurrected... Because, like a lot of Cleris will get mad if SE puts Cloud with Tifa at the end (I hope not >-<), a lot of Clotis and fans of the game will get mad if they resurrects Aeris... It can be injust, right, but it´s the reallity ¬¬...
Because of that I don´t think Aeris will be resurrected, but if the end of AC is good, then it will be fine ^^. I hope more for Cloud´s death... I love tragic endings, they are more memorable, like the ends of Cowboy Bebop, Wolf´s Rain or Rurôni Kenshin... They all are so beautyfull *_*... And Cloud dying in an heroic form and standing with Aeris in the Promised Land sounds sad and beautyful to me ^^... I saw X-1999 ending yesterday with my best friend, and both agree that it was tragic, yes, but beautyful (if someone has seen it, then he/she will know that I´m talking about), and AC could seem it a lot (I saw similarities between Cloud and Kamui, Sephiroth and Fuuma, Vincent and Subaru, Tifa and Arashi, Aeris and Kotori...)... And in japanese culture the death is a liberation...
And for Sephiroth´s return... I think he´s a spirit or Jenova in Sephiroth´s form, but well, it´s only a possibility ¬¬...
It´s all, see you and if you haven´t seen X-1999, I recommend it a lot *_*

Hmmm... when it all boils down, I think Cloud meeting Aeris as a spirit or something would still be romantic. However, I'd probably commit suicide if SE would put Cloti in the end (right after I perform a chainsaw massacre on SE, of course ;)).

I wouldn't mind if Aeris got resurrected of course. If it's a nice, unexpected, but totally in character resurrection, then I'd definitely be up for it. :) *nods*

Overall, if Aeris get's resurrected in a dramatic way, I won't mind; if Cloud dies and meets Aeris in the Lifestream, I won't mind; if Cloti gets up on the screen, I WILL MIND! :angry:

Well, Square has to be fair, they can't upset the CloRith or the CloTi, otherwise they'll be flamed to death by the fans. I do think however, that Square will hint CloRith very strongly if they can't put them in a straight forward ish looking couple. If Aerith does get ressurected, Cloud will be all happy and sweet and nice and not depressed anymore, then how will that leave Tifa? If Cloud doesn't end up with Aerith, at the very least, Square has to have Cloud announce his love for Aerith for the entire world to hear.
I do love tragic endings, because of the tragic-ness of it, is what makes it beautiful. But CloRith FVII has already ended up tragic, and though Kingdom Hearts makes up for some of it, it's not enough. We've seen Cloud in other games struggling in search of Aerith, and though it's beautiful and all .. a happy ending for CloRith is what I want. Whatever the ending is, I want Cloud and Aerith to be happy. Tifa too, if possible.

I think Tifa will be happy when Cloud will be happy... And it will happen when he was with Aeris ^^

cloud LOVES tifa. Yes. He loves her. But he is IN LOVE with Aeris. what im saying, cloud cares about Tifa like a friend, he loves her in that way..but he fell on love with Aeris, she loves her in aother way...but i dont want aeris be resucited,..no, it have to be this way..

I agree, Nya... I don't think Square will want to upset either side. They have to give something to the Cloti side as well as to the Clorith side or a great many fans are going to be unhappy. That's why I doubt the Love Triangle will be conclusively resolved in AC - unfortunately. I think they'll leave it up to interpretation again - unfortunately. :(

I'd *love* to see Aerith resurrected, but I think her appearance in Kingdom Hearts is as much of a resurrection as we will ever see. I *do* think that Aerith will be every bit as "real" in AC as Sephiroth is, though. I don't think that Sephiroth has been resurrected, either. I don't understand why people see Aerith and think she's a spirit or dream or memory, and then they see Sephiroth and think he's been resurrected. If one's not resurrected, I don't think the other has been resurrected, either.

I think it's more likely that Cloud will die than for Aerith to be resurrected. I sure wouldn't mind it if she were resurrected, but I just doubt that Square will do it. I do think there's a good chance that Cloud will die, however.

this probably has nothing to do with the discussion, but whatever. I've once read some fanfiction about CloAe.
It's something like this: Aeris gets ressurected, Cloud's extremely happy of course. But then he dies while he tried saving both Aeris and Tifa. The story was really saddening, I forgot where I read it, but if AC's gonna end that way, I'm gonna XD
God, this is really frustrating. The CloRith and CloTi fans will probably never be satisfied no matter how AC ends, .. unless Square makes the ending really really good.

I think I know which fanfic you mean! I think it's this one: Would You Like a Flower?, by StormGuy71.

That's a very good fic, but it's really sad at the end.

Ye know what would be really cool? If they released the original version of FFVII where Aerith didn't die, Aerith was Cloud's love interest, there was no Tifa, and the Love Triangle wasn't part of the game. :rolleyes: I'd love to play that version! :D

Aww, yeah. Thank you so much for posting it up!

We all would. That was how the game was supposed to be in the first place, so why coudn't it be that way? But I don't think FFVII would be nearly as popular if it weren't for the love triangle. But imagine, FFVII a do over, with super awesome graphics! God, Reno :drools: .. but anyway, if Square did do AC in the "Would you like a Flower?" way, the fans will be sooo ... "unfair, unfair!" and crying to no end. I like Tifa, but if they added her in, why coudn't it be something like Quistis/Squall/Rinoa and where they really comfirm the relationship. And Tifa, pity her since she's kind of a fanservice for boys. stupid boys =D

I have the hope SE will resolve the love triangle... with Cloud´s death...
If Cloud dies, a lot of fans will think "damnit, Cloud is dying!!!" :o :o :(, and I dude that they will think in Cloud ending with Aeris in the Promised Land... well, maybe only Clotis (for bad ¬¬...) and Cleris (for good ^^)... Is something like Cowboy Bebop or Rurôni Kenshin... When people see this two endings (for example...), they don´t think "oh, Kenshin/Spike is meeting again (and forever) with Tomoe/Julia"; they think "aaaah, Kenshin/Spike is dying TT____TT". I´m a supporter of Spike/Faye pairing, but I don´t mind that he´s ended with Julia, because this ending was really good and sad to me... I hope something like that will happen with AC and with the love triangle...
There is a possibility... If AC doesn´t end like this form, then surely Cloud ends alone U.U...

If Cloud ends up alone again, it'll be too cruel. He's already lost Aerith once, but to lose her again? CloRith is beautiful but Tifa is beautiful because of her being alone. She's an independant and strong woman, I hope the CloTi's will realize that someday, though that would probably never happen..

I was refering of Cloud ending alone like a form of let the love triangle inconclusive U.U...
But it would cruel for the fans, because all this "war" between Clotis and Cleris would continue, then, and sincerely, SE would lie us... Because if they finish AC of this way, then it would be the same that FFVII (Cloud ending alone, with he and Aeris saving the world of Sephiroth and Jenova...)... And maybe 7 years after they would decide to make other "FFVII Story"...¬¬
I agree with you, Nya, Tifa is a stronger woman, and she will be happy when Cloud was happy... If Cloud dies, Tifa will be sad, but she will be happy, too... Because she will know that Cloud is free of all his suffering... Well, always that Cloud dies of an heroic form and not letting himself die ¬¬

anastar, would you like a flower is a very goog story, i agree with you... :P , and yes, it sad, but have you read the sequel?? there are 5 books

1) would you like a flower? ( cloud is going to marry tifa but..aeris appears..and once again, all the feelings he had for aeris reapears..)

2)who actually are you? ( what if cloud...)

3)choose one, now ( well, ...)

4)there is something that you should know ( is MY FAVORITE! YOU MUST READ)

5)Settle This, Once and for All...( The last)

if you want to read, go there: is the autors site...:

http://www.geocities.com/stormguy71/

That makes sense, although they could do the same thing if he dies. Make it inconclusive as to whether Cloud's been reunited with Aerith. I would expect that Square would do it that way to end the Love Triangle, yet leave it up in the air. I'd rather see him reunited with Aerith, but I'm not sure that Square will conclusively resolve the Love Triangle. :unsure:

I think we'd all like to see the Love Triangle concluded... but I only want to see it concluded in favor of CloudxAerith. If Square won't make conclusively resolve it in favor of CloudxAerith, then I'd rather see it left inconclusive.

@Daga15: Thanks for the link to his other stories! :D