Title: Conversion
Description: how were you converted to Cleris?
Sefie - November 20, 2004 03:51 AM (GMT)
Okay, *puts on pink armor* lemme just say that when I first played FFVII I thought Cloud and Tifa were a couple*dodges flying debris* Wait wait!! That didn't make me a CloTi! I didn't LIKE it! I only thought that because Aeris died. Later, I grew up and realized that that was silly! (No, seriously, I was thirteen when I first played then 2 years later I realized the truth) So, I was just wondering if anyone else here wasn't a Cleris to begin with.
Anastar - November 20, 2004 04:05 AM (GMT)
Nope, I played the entire game through and never even considered a relationship with Cloud and Tifa. I thought the whole story was about Cloud and Aerith's love, and I saw no hint of Cloud and Tifa whatsoever. I saw that Tifa had feelings for Cloud, but one-sided feelings do not equal a relationship... so I just shrugged it off. The only mutual feelings I saw in the game were between Cloud and Aerith.
... the first time I ever heard anyone say that Cloud may have gotten together with Tifa after end of the game, I was like, "What the hell ever gave you THAT idea?!?" :lol: I was literally shocked that anyone could ever think such a thing.
Frankly, it still shocks me. I think the whole idea of Cloud ending up with someone he doesn't love is ridiculous. Caring about someone as a friend does not equal romance, and I wish Square would make that clear.
Marionette - November 20, 2004 04:07 AM (GMT)
Cloud and Tifa never even crossed my mind when I first played FF7 even when I saw the oh so romantic highwind scene. :rolleyes: I always were (still is) under the impression that Cloud and Aerith were "THE" couple of the game.
Real_Emotion - November 20, 2004 05:22 AM (GMT)
I first got interested in Cloud and Aeris, when I first played Kingdom Hearts. After that, I wanted to learn more about those two, so I went on the internet to find more info. I learned much aobut the whole story and the relationship between Cloud and Aeris. It was so cute. So I finally bought Final Fantasy VII in 2001 or 2002. In case your wondering, when FFVII came out, which was in 1997, I was only 7 at the time and more into Barbies than video games. That's why I got FFVII so late. Anyways, I played the game and instantely fell in love with Cloris. I did notice the love triangle between Tifa, Cloud, and Aeris, but Cloris was my obvious choice. I didn't really even like Tifa until very late in the game. lol
Onigiri - November 20, 2004 05:23 AM (GMT)
Hmmmmmm....Well when I first see Tifa, but no relationship has been established between Cloud and Aerith, there was the option to be 'nice' to Tifa...but for some reason-though I usually love the couples in games- I didn't feel like it was right...o_o
So yeah, I was a CloudxAerith fan from the beginning. =D
Tifa Lockheart - November 20, 2004 08:54 AM (GMT)
I wasn't converted; I was influenced by a friend whom I call Aerith. ^_^
We were classmates during summer school way back in high school and she always has this picture of Cloud Strife with her, saying how much she loves him. And then she showed me Aerith with Red XIII on another photo... and started telling me wonderful things about Cloud and Aerith, but she already spoiled it for me, saying the latter died in the end.
It's like advertising and promotion... the CloudxAerith had stuck to my subconscious and conscious mind and so the first time I played the game, I was already a CloudxAerith. ^_^ Thanks to her... without her, I'd probably be someplace else and "crazy". heheh. But anyway, I think I'll still prefer CloudxAerith over CloudxTifa if ever that friend of mine had not come along to prove to me that indeed, Cloud and Aerith are the perfect lovers. ^_^
Andina - November 20, 2004 04:31 PM (GMT)
I was born this way. :rolleyes:
The moment I first met Aerith in my first game I knew she would be in my party through the whole game. Of course I cried like a little baby at the end of disc one, how could they kill the most lovable person in the game. :(
FF_Goddess - November 20, 2004 10:07 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Anastar @ Nov 20 2004, 04:05 AM) |
Nope, I played the entire game through and never even considered a relationship with Cloud and Tifa. I thought the whole story was about Cloud and Aerith's love, and I saw no hint of Cloud and Tifa whatsoever. I saw that Tifa had feelings for Cloud, but one-sided feelings do not equal a relationship... so I just shruggd it off. The only mutual feelings I saw in the game were between Cloud and Aerith.
... the first time I ever heard anyone say that Cloud may have gotten together with Tifa after end of the game, I was like, "What the hell ever gave you THAT idea?!?" :lol: I was literally shocked that anyone could ever think such a thing.
Frankly, it still shocks me. I think the whole idea of Cloud ending up with someone he doesn't love is ridiculous. Caring about someone as a friend does not equal romance, and I wish Square would make that clear. |
That is what I thought! :lol: LOL! But, I didn't know how to PROVE my opinion was correct until I saw some great ClAeris sites out there with essays on CloudxAerith (Destiny Fulfilled, Hikari, Forever Cherished, etc...) :D
Yukari - November 20, 2004 10:18 PM (GMT)
Like Aly and FF_G, the idea of CloTi never even entered my head. I always saw them as having a sweet friendship, but nothing romantic. I saw Tifa's attraction as a one-sided thing, and always saw the ending as her acceptance of Cloud's love for Aerith. That's what made me love Tifa, despite how much her rabid fans annoyed me, she sacrificed her own happiness to support Cloud's decision to meet Aerith in the Promised Land.
Aeris - November 24, 2004 03:57 AM (GMT)
I have always been a CloRis. Like I said in another thread, I considered Tifa/Cloud's relationship to be more of a brother/sister relastionship.
Carmencita - November 24, 2004 04:55 AM (GMT)
Well, before I played Final Fantasy VII, I've already accidentally wandered through the FFVII fandom, since being an FFVIII fan makes you curious about the previous FF... Anyway, the first pieces of fiction I saw was Cloud/Tifa... and so I thought that was the canon pairing for the game.
I was very, very, very mistaken then. :lol: Good thing I played the game a few months later and disproved myself before I did anything silly.
Aprillis - November 30, 2004 09:23 AM (GMT)
I have never heard of CloTi in my life (before I started going to forums, that is).
I remember back when I was 10 years old I had a die-hard Cleris friend who would rant forever and ever about how she worshipped Aeris. She would force me to draw Aeris, Tifa and Cloud, even though I've never played FFVII before.
Then one day she told me that Aeris had died and how she cried for hours about how Cloud and Aeris will never be together. A few years later, I watched my brother play FFVII but I only happened to catch pro-Cleris scenes: Cloud falling onto the flower bed, Cloud talking to Aeris on the rooftops, Cloud and Aeris hunting around in the market searching for clothes, the date with Aeris and the death of Aeris.
I assumed that they were the official couple, and when I played FFVII last year it became clear to me that I actually liked this couple. End of story.
(but I also found out that there were Cloti vibes in the game, as well. That was a nasty surprise).
Bloodbath - December 2, 2004 02:55 AM (GMT)
Like most people here, I was a born Cleris. :D As a ten-old (yup, that was my age when I played the first game! :lol: I gave up on the game some time, and played it again now!), I never really like showy clothes, so Tifa was an immediate no-no.
Of course, during the gap between my ten years and twelve years, I surfed through the internet for Cloud and Aeris sites. Somehow, while surfing one day, I stumbled on a CloudxAeris-hate site. You wouldn't believe how much I hated it! :angry:
So began my angry anti-CloTi days! :lol:
Shen-hua - December 2, 2004 09:12 PM (GMT)
Well, the first time I saw the character fo Aeris was in a video gameŽs magazina, two months before the game arrived to my country. When I saw her design, I fell in love inmediatlely with her, she has a beauty color eyes and she inspired me a kind of friendship. Later, when my brother and I bought the game and we saw Aeris ,we thought that she was very cute and Cloud and her were one of the most beauty couples of all the games. She is like and angel for me!!
when she died in the game, I stopped to play, during two weeks, because she didnŽt be in it, but my brother said me that perhpas sheŽd resurrect at the end and I decided to start to play aganin, but her resurrection never come.....
well, this is my story...
SweetJanie - December 2, 2004 11:45 PM (GMT)
When I first played I didn't get a thing about english and stopped playing (I didn't knew how to use materia! :D So I got stuck when You go to ShinRa's building, when Aeris is in the elevator with the flying boss. No materia and no reach..yeah, right!!)
But when my friend bought FFVIII and played it so madly, never getting stuck, I got mad and decided to play the game. When she died I thought Cloud was gonna end up with Tifa (I started to take her for some rides in Gold Saucer and that HighWind scene). But later, as years passed and I had already FFVIII and FFIX I played it again. And guess what? I finnaly became Cloris!! It was hard, but at least I saw the light and the truth :P
Tifa - December 7, 2004 10:30 PM (GMT)
Ok i now believe Aeris and Cloud Belong 2getha!!!
The only evidence i had against Cleris fans was that, Cloud and Tifa were childhood frends and so my belief went on frum dere. This Forum has shown me the dedication and love for Aeris and Cloud and i like that. Im not much of a Mushy gurl, probably that is why i ignored the feelings that were present in the game between Aeris and Cloud. I am a member of heaps of Cleris fans now, but my name is still Tifa bcoz i want them to know that even Cloti fans can see the light :D :P but hey i like it here and i dont plan on going n e where!
Kaldea - December 7, 2004 10:52 PM (GMT)
Mine is a little confusing story, it is.
Like many people here, the first time I played right through, I didn't see anyway that Cloud loved Tifa. All he did was act cold to her (until she actually helped him for once when she found him in the wheelchair) and talked to/about Aeris. To me, that story (the couple part anyway) was all about Cloud and Aeris. If FFVII was ever meant to be about Cloud and Tifa, it would be pretty damn boring honestly.
Anyway, I went on the internet, found a few extremely nice Cloud/Tifa friends and I started thinking, "You know... That would be a cool couple too. Even though Square implied that Cloud and Aeris were in love, at least Tifa is there to back him up in the hard times." They didn't argue with me or anything. They respected my opinion and we discussed all of our points like close friends. All was well.
Until one day I made the mistake of joining a forum full of the bad kind of Cloud/Tifa fans. Once I made it known that I liked both couples, they flamed me until I left. Why? Because I actually liked the Cloud/Aeris pairing. They didn't care that I liked Cloud/Tifa too. That is how stupid they were.
This is where my complete and total hate for Cloud/Tifa fanatics started. Not only did these people ruin my view of the couple, but it changed those friends I talked to before. They are now complete Cloud/Aeris supporters and they are still wonderful friends.
Today, I still like both couples. Although I think there is a phase I am in where I think Cloud should stay the way he is, I still think Cloud loved Aeris and he still does. All the evidence points to them and Tifa being simply last minute fanservice. I love Tifa as a character, but seriously... Square never intended them to be in love. People need to get over that and take a good long look at how they are acting towards others over some pixels on a screen.
Supporters of any couple need to act mature and polite if they want people to see their side in a serious light. The more you act like a child, the more people will resent you for it. Not to mention what goes around comes around. Something that many rabid people will be learning soon in their lives. :rolleyes:
Trisse - December 8, 2004 03:17 AM (GMT)
Always and forever will be CLERIS yea yea :D
Sir DQ - December 9, 2004 01:20 AM (GMT)
True Love is 4 Eva, Cloud and Aeris for Life
I've always been a Cleris fan and so has everyone of my friends, heck I've never met a Cloti in real life.
Ever since I first played the game I've seen that Cloud and Aeris are the true couple of FF7.
Sefie - December 10, 2004 05:43 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Sir DQ @ Dec 9 2004, 01:20 AM) |
heck I've never met a Cloti in real life. |
I've met two. They're actually much nicer in real life, odd huh?
Bloodbath - December 10, 2004 12:06 PM (GMT)
I haven't met a Cloti in real life either, Sir DQ.
Hmmm... I've always been Cloud and Aeris supportive. My first round in the game, I found some hints and loved the couple. I also became somewhat anti - Cloti. :ph43r: Second round, saw the hints (thank you, Destiny Fulfilled!!! :D), and cooled down with the anti - Cloti stuff.
Now however, the anti - Cloti is bubbling up. :lol:
slowerthanaverage - December 10, 2004 05:24 PM (GMT)
When I first ran through the game with my bro, I thought, initially, that Tifa was cute and wanted Cloud to be with her! then Aerith came along at the gondola date lol... and as we played through the game, I realised that Cloud showed more affection and feelings towards Aerith than anyone else.. thus I started supporting the couple... in my opinion, they are the unofficial official couple.. lol
I have a good friend who likes Tifa alot... even she admits that Cloud and Aerith are meant to be and the evidences were all in the game/KH etc... but she still loves Tifa... erm..ok I guess she is more of a Tifa rather than Cloti fan. sorry. lol
Paksenarrion - December 10, 2004 06:25 PM (GMT)
I remember before I even touched the game, I would watch my older brother play. I didn't know too much about the story, but I remember that I loved Aeris as a character. Then one night, I heard my brother screaming "Aeris is dead!!!!" I went running downstairs to see Cloud dropping her into the lake. At that point, I KNEW Cloud and her were in love.
Then when I played the game for myself. I think I was 13 when the game came out and I played it a year later, so I was 14. I knew Aeris and Cloud were meant to be. But I also knew the shocking truth that was fast approaching at the end of disk 1. I kept thinking to myself, maybe she won't die this time. (how naive I was :rolleyes: ) I remember crying soooo hard when it happened.
Then I got my best friend into the game, and I sat with her the whole time she played, when we got to the death scene we both started balling. We both truly believed the real couple was Cloris.
When news of AC started to spread, and we saw all this stuff about Cloud and Tifa, we started having doubts whether we should stop believing in Aeris or not. We decided to try and give Tifa a chance and thought maybe her and Cloud would hook up in the movie. :ph43r: *dodges a flying brick*
Thats when i got into forums, and I met a lot of different Clotis and Clorises. The Clotis were just plain mean and barbaric the way they flamed Aeris so much. Eventually I started thinking about Aeris again, and wanted her to possibly be resurrected in the movie. then I made it to here and and fully support Aeris and Cloud once again! *throws exploding confetti*
Daga15 - March 23, 2005 09:18 PM (GMT)
the first time i played ff7, i liked both , tifa and aeris. But i choice my sister name to give it to tifa and my name to give it to aeris.
i liked the couple aeris / cloud, since the beggining, the aeris dies and i thought: now cloud and tifa will be a couple...and then i saw the scen of the higwind and i though: its romantic!!
but then....i just thought: its not romantic at all!!! :mad:
later, i saw the final sequence, aeris hand reaching for cloud...and i thought they were the true couple :cleris:
Aprillis - March 24, 2005 03:46 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Tifa Lockheart @ Nov 20 2004, 04:54 PM) |
I wasn't converted; I was influenced by a friend whom I call Aerith. ^_^ We were classmates during summer school way back in high school and she always has this picture of Cloud Strife with her, saying how much she loves him. And then she showed me Aerith with Red XIII on another photo... and started telling me wonderful things about Cloud and Aerith, but she already spoiled it for me, saying the latter died in the end. It's like advertising and promotion... the CloudxAerith had stuck to my subconscious and conscious mind and so the first time I played the game, I was already a CloudxAerith. ^_^ Thanks to her... without her, I'd probably be someplace else and "crazy". heheh. But anyway, I think I'll still prefer CloudxAerith over CloudxTifa if ever that friend of mine had not come along to prove to me that indeed, Cloud and Aerith are the perfect lovers. ^_^ |
What a coincidence! So was I... when I was 10 and FFVII just came out in 1997. I was under the impression Cloud and Aerith were THE couple of the game, and even after I played the game for real I remained a CloudxAerith fan.
Friends are just great, huh?
Anti-R - March 27, 2005 12:46 PM (GMT)
What to tell...
Actually, I liked Aerith when Cloud first met her in the Church. As her mother Elmyra tells about Aerith's complicated past, it made me realize that she spends her life in a slum selling flowers being chased by Turks and ShniRa for all those years. I really thought she must be very smart and strong and quick at her feet if she manages to do that on her own. And she loved everyone, I really like the fact she and Tifa hit it off nicely, and how everyone in AVALANCHE remembered her in their way after she died.
As for them being a pair, it had never crossed my mind... until the ending when Cloud was clinging at the edge of a cliff holding Tifa in his arm saying "I think I can meet her there." It made me realize whom he loved all along, but fate was a harsh mistress and that they may never be physically together.
I cried for the first time in that game when Cloud said. "She can never laugh, or cry or be angry...". It made me feel disgust to other players who never felt that moment (more so to the guys who actually laughed at the death scene).
But I liked stories of love endured even if they were seperated indefinately... like Escaflowne and RahXephon and Wolf's Rain... so I believe it was the same with Cloud and Aerith. Their cameos in FFT and KH actually clinches it for me.
UsagiMamoru - March 28, 2005 05:39 PM (GMT)
I remember long ago when I first played the game how my opinions changed. Ah... memories. I played it from the beginning to the end and different opinions went back and forth. I became a Cloud/Aeris supported after I beat the game or around that time. After I beat the game and the last FMV came and I saw Cloud reaching for Aerith's hand and looking really dissapointed when it became Tifa's and Cloud saying that he thinks he could meet Aeris "there", I realized that Aeris is truly the one that Cloud likes after all that time. Tifa looked a bit upset, but then seemed fine after that and agreed to go meet her. Then, after beating the game I replayed it it and saw the Cloud and Aeris moments in a different light. Way back when I first played it, first I supported Cloud with Aeris / Aerith, then I changed sides, then I changed back to supporting Cloud and Aeris, because after seeing Cloud's reaction, you could tell that the one he loved was Aeris. Then I rebeat the game all over again and rewatched the interactions.
Difinity - March 29, 2005 10:00 AM (GMT)
Final Fantasy VII came out when I was 7 years old, and I remember reserving the game. The day it came out, I ran to the store, bought it, took it home, ran to my room and started playing it. And during the intro, from the first moment I saw Aerith's face, I loved her to death. I knew that she and Cloud were meant to be from the first moment I laid eyes on Cloud as well. All those sweet moments they shared were like magic and I knew that these two were going to be my favorite couple of time.
But when she died, I fell apart. I had seen a FFVII commercial where they showed the burial scene and I thought that she was going to die at the end of the game. I knew this was going to be some tragic love story because the narration said, "A story of love that can never be..." But I didn't expect her to die so early in the game!! I could tell from the way Cloud began to act, move and speak that Aerith's death hit him heard and deep. I was always a Cleris shipper, but it was then that I knew that there was no changing my mind about it.
When I heard my brothers saying that Cloud's love interest was Tifa, I really couldn't help but laugh! :lmao: Cleris was always so...obvious! I really don't see how some people think that the main couple is CloudxTifa!
Then with Cloud and Aerith in Tactics and KH, I knew I'd be a Cleris shipper forever. ^_^
Schala - April 2, 2005 04:45 AM (GMT)
Ohhhh... It's a loooong story. So here's the semi abridged version.
The second Aeris' face appeared on the screen, I became her fan. Pure instinct. Then I saw Cloud. Saw him meet her, and decided that those two were surely the main character and second main character. Typical FF fan that I was (and am), I was immediately sure that they would end up together. :D
Then, I developed an extreme hate for Tifa though I really don't know why. I was probably just trying to protect Aeris and Cloud's relationship. Or maybe I just didn't like the way she seemed to be the wait-patiently-for-her-man-while-silently-suffering kind of heroine. It's great, I guess, but just not for me. Anyway... when I found out that Aeris died, I was in total shock for one full day. :no: then :sad:
Following that began the many many days of Sephiroth and Aeris pairing. Ah, it was mainly because he was my fav. guy character and Aeris, my fav. girl. Read some really good (often dark) fanfics and was convinced that with miracles, it could happen. The delusion went on for a year and more, then I came across many heart-warming pictures of Aeris and Cloud on the net and finally I remembered how great and pure their relationship was!
So... I guess Cloud and Aeris were just fated to be. Clues all point that way, even if Tifa seems like the obvious partner (my mean brother always points out that Aeris is dead. That's true, but... True love goes beyond death!). For them to be together is Destiny... There's no changing that.
The End.
Materia Thief - April 7, 2005 02:24 AM (GMT)
Hmm...let's see where's to start?
I started out...delusional, let's just say that. Many of my friends in both the past and present (who have played FFVII, mind you) are either: A. Cloti's or B. Rabid Aeris Haters. <_<
So, of course, I was influenced by them. When I first started playing I was under the impression that Cloti was "teh holy-ness" (as was Tifa) and Aeris was some kind of stuck up b!@tch. How silly I was. :lol:
When I started to PLAY the game however, I noticed that Cloud had actually FORGOTTEN the 'holy promise' that Cloud and Tifa shared. I also noticed that he was cold to her, even though she was his "loyal, loving childhood friend". Then Aeris came into the scene. She was sweet, innocent, I tried as hard as I could to remember all the things my friends told me about her, but she destroyed all those lies. Then they started to interact. He was instantly warm to her...he would actually TALK to her for goodness sakes. And from then on I was Cleris. ^_^
Unfortunately, most of my friends are still rabid clotis and/or aeris bashers. :( That's why I'm so glad to have this forum, so I can meet other Cleris to talk to! :)
Starlight Night - April 14, 2005 02:13 AM (GMT)
I was never really convinced that Cloud and Tifa would be together. If they were at some point in time, I didn't really care. I got the date sequence where Cloud went with Aeris. I found it really cute. I still haven't gotten the others yet, but I knew from there that her and Cloud should be together. When she died, I cried. :sad: I was thinking that he would go with Tifa, but he didn't. I was so happy. I can understand if he cares for Tifa as a friend, but never any farther than that. When Cloud was putting Aeris into the lake, something clicked inside of me that Aeris and Cloud were ment to be together, though life or death.
And in Kindom Hearts, Cloud lovers Aeris. He even refers to her and "his light".
Hades' Daughter - April 14, 2005 06:13 AM (GMT)
Let's see...my story:
Well, the first time I ever encountered FFVII was in a magazine right before it was released. My brother's friend had brought a gamer's magazine over, and we were all checking out the "kool" new games coming out for the fairly new PS. Let me tell ya...it was love at first sight upon seeing Cloud in that magazine... :blush:
Then, I noticed that the only other characters shown were Aeris, Barret, and Red XIII. Cloud was on the first page with Aeris on the opposite one...and of course, the first thought that crossed my mind was: "the hero and the heroine...they look so darn cute together!".
My younger brother and I had always been RPG buddies. We'd just finished FFVI (FF3 in the US), had loved that game, and were quite excited about VII's release. His friend bought the game, and we wanted to check it out first before buying it...just in case it wasn't good...(silly us!), so we borrowed his. The first time playing through that game, my brother played and I watched. Of course, from the magazine, I'd already gotten the idea of Cleris in my head, so after seeing Cloud and Aeris' first encounter, I was pretty convinced something definitely more than a friendship would develop between the two. Then Tifa entered the game, and I kind of sensed right away that she seemed to have feelings for the hero, and I became a little unsure. Similarly, the church scene told me right away that Aeris was also interested in him. As we continued playing the game though, I'd noticed that Cloud's reactions and responses to Aeris were different. He seemed interested in knowing her past, was definitely more talkative, carefree, and didn't seem to wear that fake cold/careless mask whenever he was around her. She was his date at the Gold Saucer...and then other little subtleties (his slip-of-the-tongue during the campfire scene, etc.) hinted to me that he had developed feelings for her. Their communication through the dream and Cloud's reactions when she died did it for me...totally convinced me that romantic love was involved. Of course, I cried when she died...and was very upset with Square at the time for having killed off such an innocent and pure-hearted character, especially when the hero had feelings for her too. After her death, I thought Cloud would surely move on with Tifa just because she had strong feelings for him and was simply not dead...but I was proven wrong at the end. To me, the final FMV was the strongest Cleris proof because it showed him yearning for her, and simply because even holding another girl in his arms wasn't enough to take his mind off the flower girl who'd died some time ago. His decision to go meet Aeris in the Promised Land also convinced me that his feelings for her were pure and true, that their love would transcend death itself...which happens to be an extremely beautiful concept to many of us Asians... :D
Second time around, I played the game...chose a few different answers for the dating mech just for the heck of it...still ended up with Aeris as the date and the same ending. I never saw Cloti anywhere, and yes...was very shocked as well that some people had interpreted the game that way. To this day, I still don't get Clotis... :unsure:
Anyway, long story short...always been a Cleris and always will be! :cleris: