There are still a number of people who don't know that there are at least three versions of the scene where Cloud and Tifa spend the night under the Highwind.

There's a second version when you play the game so that Cloud goes on a date with Yuffie or Barret where Tifa just taps her foot inside the Highwind the next morning instead of collapsing to her knees and pounding the floor.

But there's a third version, too, where Cloud is actually able to reject Tifa's affection. I'm not sure exactly how low Tifa's affection has to be in order to get this third version because I don't have a Gameshark. However, I've gotten this version of the scene, recorded the dialogue, and took screenshots of it. It has been tested out by other people who also got this version of the scene. You can see the screenshots and dialogue for this version of the scene at this website:

http://www.geocities.com/ffviilovetriangle/LastNight.htm

This version of the scene proves that Cloud's affection for Tifa is quite optional to the player. I wanted all Cloud x Aerith fans to be aware of it when debating the Love Triangle. :rolleyes:

Yeah, IT'S GETTING OLD! >_<

You have no idea how sick i am of hearing that that scene "proves the love between Cloud and Tifa exists". Dear Lord my ears strain at hearing it.

Frankly it is a multi versioned scene that is open to interpretation even when suited to Tifa. Therefore i say it can't be used as evidence for either side (thanks for that one Elyis).

The other thing that i say proves that Cloud does not love Tifa will be found in an essay i am writing for Destiny Fulfilled. I'll have that for you soon Aly.

Yeah... I'm so sick of it too! Whenever those evil Cloti people shove that Highwind Scene to my face, I just... wish that Nibelheim Burning incident would repeat and they're all there to suffer. :angry:
I'm like, "Is that all you can say?!" or "Is that all you can do?! Tell me about that effing Highwind Scene?!" in Rufus ShinRa mode, that is. Heheh.

But then it's their only effing evidence... pity them. <_<

*Pat-pats Tifa Lockheart* Another person that I can share CloTi-hatred with... :lol: LOL! I can't stand 90% of those buggers... And the Highwind scene... GAWD!!!! >_< What a pile of garbage! Playing through the game the first time, I was totally objective and I STILL saw NOTHING that suggested CloudxTifa, even during the Highwind scene. I mean, Tifa practically tells Cloud that she loves him when she says "Words aren't the only thing to tell people what you are thinking". However, Cloud's only response to this is "......". When asked what "....." means to the Japanese, the response is that it means embarrassment, annoyance, irritation, surprise, etc. Does this sound like an affirmation of love to you?

And I think it is SO DIGUSTING when CloTis suggest that Cloud and Tifa had sex under the Highwind that night. First of all, Cloud did not say anything to suggest he reciprocated Tifa's feelings, nor did his actions suggest this. Second of all, Cloud is not the type to have casual sex. He would be the type to only make love to someone he was truly in love with. Was he in love with Tifa? No. Not to mention that Cloud banging Tifa on the ground under the Highwind is just wrong in so many ways... sick and wrong... So, why was Tifa embarrassed the next morning? Easy. She was crying and she was rejected by Cloud. Their friends saw this; they saw Tifa's vulnerability and "soft side" (Tifa, who is such a tough cookie). Why wouldn't she be embarrassed? And the fact that Tifa cries during this scene also negates any claims that this was a "romantic" evening. Also, when Tifa is embarrassed on the deck of the Highwind, Cloud merely stands around and says nothing. If they spent the evening in each other's arms, wouldn't he be supportive? Well, YEAH... And, if their friends did see them engaged in a "romantic tryst" under the Highwind, why isn't Cloud embarrassed? Simple-- he had nothing to be embrrassed about because NOTHING HAPPENED. Also, did ANYBODY see Cloud even make an attempt to comfort Tifa? No, he just sat there with his arms crossed while Tifa rested her head on his shoulder. I thought he was rather cold. Also, don't forget, this entire scene is OPTIONAL. In the low affection version, Cloud rejects Tifa completely. Optional scenes are NOT proof of anything. I wish the CloTis would take that scene, roll it up in a tight little ball, and stick it... um... nevermind... :rolleyes:

Uuurgh... *flaming mad at the Cloti's...*
Well, they are stubborn, after all... and they have closed-minds. It's very seldom that I encounter Cloti people with open minds and reasonable ways of thinking and comprehension. <_<

Well Tifa, if they were open minded and reasonable they'd be a Cleris wouldn't they?
Anyways, that's like using the date as proof! You can date BARRET!
Even with the high affection version, he turns her down. Not very romantic if you ask me. As for his response to her line "words aren't the only thing..." I wish Square would've given us more. I mean, I can understand where CloTi's got it from. Tifa says something like that, and then the screen fades out. It's understandable, but after thinking about it, it's arguable. Anyways, if you can avoid that scene, and it's governed by TIFA'S affection level, then it's not exactly proof that Cloud loves her.

I m sick too! :angry: What the hell, what they don´t see is when Cloud said, "Tifa... I...." Tifa closed her eyes and is look like she was giving up her feeling about Cloud and very sad she said "There is another ways than words to tell people what you feel" = Cloud loves Aerith lol

*joins with FF_Goddess in the share hate*

LOL!!! :lol: Ah, more CloTi-haters... :lol: When Cloud didn't respond to Tifa's words, I took it as, "But, Tifa, I love Aerith... Can't you see that?" The next morning, they haven't even moved and Cloud is still just sitting there with his arms crossed. The CloTis are all, "OMG, Tifa put her head on Cloud's shoulder! That means he LUUUUUUVS her!" :rolleyes: Give me a break! They are FRIENDS. If you had a friend lay their head on your shoulder, what would you do? You'd let them, of course! I mean, it is like they expect him to shove Tifa away and go, "Ewwwww, don't touch me, bar fly!" :lol:

There is one mistake that all CloTi's make when saying they had sex. Cloud is not the type of guy to do that. He wouldn't have sex with Tifa for a few reasons:

1) The stress of the upcoming battle. They don't even know if everyone else is coming back. His feelings for Aerith are in his mind, all of the events of the game still leave an open wound in him. He lost his memories, he met and lost Aerith, Meteor, Sephiroth, everything. He would not suddenly forget that all and think, "Wow, Tifa has big boobs" and go and have sex with her on a rock.

2) Cloud is not a player. Cloud is the type of guy that would wait to have sexual contact with a girl. I doubt he has had any in the first place with how his life was. He wouldn't just suddenly jump into it. Especially with Tifa, someone how has caused him pain before.

3) Sex is just not on his mind. Cloud is not a typical guy that would be attracted to girls randomly. This is obvious since he could have had Tifa as soon as he saw her again. Yet he didn't want her. Why? Having a girlfriend is not important compared to what IS on his mind.

CloTis are getting so typically stupid that this argument makes me angry most of all. Cloud does not care about sex.

So why does Tifa act embarrassed the next morning?

Believe it or not, but Tifa is generally a modest girl. In personality, she isn't too open about things and she is pretty shy. This is proven by how she could never open up to Cloud and tell him her feelings. She could be embarrassed because everyone saw her sleeping on Cloud's shoulder. It would make a lot of sense simply because even then Cloud didn't care. He sure didn't care when Tifa freaked out the next morning from being that embarrased.

With how Square is, they would have added at least a little hint of them being that close. Why? One example: Xenogears. People who have played Xenogears would know what I am talking about. There were a few scenes where two characters have CLEARLY had sexual contact. Being naked in bed the next morning for example. There was NOTHING to hint at a sex scene in ANY of the versions of the Night Under The Highwind. They were fully clothed with Cloud facing away (and if you want to get specific, their hair wasn't messed up, they weren't all dirty, etc.), and honestly, who would want to have sex in what appears to be the middle of a wasteland type area? How romantic for a first time. <_<

Take that, CloTis.

Another little pointless argument: By today's standards, sex doesn't always mean love. I think most teens "in-crowders" would agree. <_<

Aww, I don't like to see Tifa that sad. She doesn't deserve to be treated like that just because she has some silly fans. She always gets the best highwind scene in my games even though Cloud's heart is always reserved for Aerith. Just because Cloud loves Aerith doesn't mean he couldn't be a good friend for Tifa and comfort her when she needs to be comforted and a shoulder to cry against.

I'm quite frankly getting somewhat tired of both sides, Tifa and Aerith supporters alike. They both deserve to be happy. And even though Cloud is in love with Aerith he does care for Tifa as well, isn't it obvious? It should be.

I see all the characters just as pawns that we fans are trying to twist and shape to fit our perfect world. We love to hate some of them and hate to love others. How silly can we get. I often find it frustrating, oh so utterly frustrating and even amusing to see how two fan groups clash and battle like their life would depend on whatever matter they are arguing about at the moment.

*screams and goes crazy* :blink:

There! I had to get that off my chest so I can sleep soundly this night and go back to my old, crazy fangirl/boy self tomorrow. :rolleyes:

It's not that we want Tifa sad, Andina. It's just that we don't want Tifa romantically involved with Cloud. That isn't saying that Tifa has to be sad, is it?

We're also bothered by the Cloti interpretation of the Highwind scene because we don't see anything romantic in that scene at all. Caring for someone doesn't mean that you love them romantically, letting someone sleep on your shoulder doesn't mean that you love them romantically, sleeping next to someone fully clothed doesn't mean you had sex with that person, either, as Cloud's Girl pointed out. Yet, the Cloti's claim that the scene obviously means that Cloud and Tifa had sex or cuddled with one another all night and that Cloud and Tifa were bonded in love with one another that night. Our interpretation of the scene is quite different, and their insistence that it can only have that one supposedly romantic interpretation is very frustrating and aggravating.

Does it mean we want Tifa unhappy? No... it means that we're tired of our own platonic interpretation of the scene being called ridiculous, and we're tired of hearing that the scene can only mean that Cloud loves Tifa romantically. We're just as sure as you that Cloud continues to love Aerith even now, that Cloud wants to be with Aerith somehow, and that Aerith was still in Cloud's heart during the Last Night Under the Highwind scene.

That's the point we're making... not that Tifa should be unhappy. We just want Tifa to find happiness with someone other than Cloud, because Cloud should be with the woman he truly loves: Aerith.

Thinking back to the Highwind script... When Tifa mentions hearing Cloud's vioce...

It sounds like he wasn't even sure whos it was. When I first read that during the game, I thought he might have thought it was Aeris's voice, by the way he worded his sentence. Like "then, it was Tifa's voice" as he was coming to the conclusion that that was who he had heard.

Just thought I'd mention it.

Of course, sweetie, but you have to admit that often you/us Aerith fans are and sound as brutal and heartless as certain Tifa fans. And such agressiveness is what gets to me. And there are those who give a very bad picture of themselves on both sides by appearing far too fanatic. Only god knows what they would do to Tifa and Aerith would they be alive. *shiver*

But just to be sure, Lover and everyone else, I'm not really towarding this against any of you. I just need to let off some steam or I'm going explode. You can only wonder how Nomura is feeling, he's afraid to touch the Love Triangle unless it's with a very long stick. Fans can be very intimidating sometimes. :rolleyes:

Yes, I got the same impression, Seii. That's in the low-affection version of the scene, but it definitely sounds as if Cloud didn't even think that was Tifa's voice... which must mean that he thought it was Aerith. :rolleyes: Would it be so impossible for Cloud to hear Aerith's voice in the Lifestream? Tifa heard the voices of spirits when she fell into the Lifestream at Mideel, and the hand reach scene took place within the Lifestream, as well.

I'm the first to admit that I'm guilty, Andine, and it's very true that two wrongs don't make a right. But we have a choice to either sit back quietly and passively, or fight back. Forum boards are flooded with pro-Cloti sentiment, and it's largely because the Cleris people get so intimidated and repressed by it that they don't want to even bother speaking up. The net is also flooded with pro-Cloti sites. But we have a right to be heard, too, and we shouldn't let our Cleris views be muffled by the screaming of the Cloti's. At times, we get to feeling that we have to shout back in order to be heard.

Does that justify our actions? Perhaps not... but what happens when Cleris people don't shout back? Are we heard, or do we get silenced? It used to be that Cleris people were literally afraid to speak up on a forum board because of all the crap they'd get dumped on them for voicing their opinion. Personally, I'm very glad to see that has changed. I'm not sorry that I've to shout a bit in order to make it possible for Cleris people to speak up without feeling so threatened. ;)

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Shiva, u suck. U hate Clotis how bad of J00.

EDIT: Just hiding this Cloti garbage from our members. :rolleyes:

Awww, So Into Japan, how bad for "j00", you don't know how to spell!
BTW, FFG! Looks like you've got another stalker! It referred to you as Shiva!

Yeah, probably another loser from SSF. :rolleyes: SIJ-- Yes, my name is Shiva and it is also FF_Goddess. And I don't care WHO knows. I can rip apart any CloTi arguement that you could throw at me. Oh, wait... You can't debate. All you do is flame people. This means you are a complete loser. And do you know why? Because you come to forums with the sole intent to flame. Only people with NO LIFE do that sort of thing. And the fact that you are a CloTi makes you even more ignorant, because you clearly can't follow logic or reason to its inevitable conclusion: CLOUD LOVED AERITH. End of story. Buh-bye now. You don't have ay evidence. And, since you are so completely stupid, you cannot come up with a proper arguement. You probably wouldn't know a decent debate answer if it fell out of the sky and set you on fire. So, in answer to you-- "JOO" need to get educated (this includes learning to spell). "JOO" need to get a life. And "JOO" need to grow up. Bye now. Have fun being banned... :D

Exactly. I admit, I am a "rabid ClAeris". I tear the heads off of CloTis for fun. But, can you blame me? *Points up* This is not the first time I have been stalked by some loser CloTi. And, you know what? It isn't even someone with a modicum of intelligence. It is always some moron. :rolleyes: So, I will continue to scream back at the CloTis until they back down. <_<

Well like I said, there are rotten apples in both baskets. :rolleyes:

Umm, not that I'm calling you a rotten apple! *giggle* :D

Yeeeeaaaahhhh, suuuuuuure... :rolleyes: LOL... :lol: I am a very mean ClAeris, I will admit it. But, I wasn't ALWAYS that way. I was very tolerant of CloTis and their opinions, once upon a time. It wasn't until I suffered continual abuse, flaming, trolling, and stalking that I came to be a complete CloTi-hater. At one time, I wouldn't even participate in LT debates, because I didn't want to hurt the feelings of the CloTis there. :rolleyes: And, I wanted to leave them room for their opinions. After awhile, though, I decided to speak up. That is when the abuse began. And I thought, "Wow, I was so considerate of their feelings and never said anything. But, when I speak my opinion, they jump all over me. Why was I ever considerate of them in the first place? They are all jerks!" And so began the transition from CloTi-toleration to CloTi-hatred. Now, I don't even want to see the garbage they have written, because that is all it is-- garbage. I have spent a long time looking at evidence for both sides and I came to the conclusion that they really don't have any evidence at all. It is pretty sad. :rolleyes:

I'm just wondering, when will the Cloti fans stop being so sick. Why the heck do they think up such things like Cloud having sex with Tifa underneath the Highwind. Isn't it plain to see that Cloud missed Aerith after her death? I realized it especially when I reached the part of the game when Cloud and the rest brought Bugenhagen to the Forgotten City.

Man... I really wish that they wouldn't resort to such things just to win, unless the scene really happened. Even my brother, agrees with them as he doesn't see any 'valid evidence' that Cloud loves Aerith. He even believes that in one part of the game or was it in Advent Children , that Cloud had been dating Tifa.

I ask him 'where is the evidence?' he replies, 'I research on the facts and not on stupid fanfiction, like you. I know what's true and what's not, unlike you?'.

For a younger sibling, he doesn't know how to respect other's or their views. Forgive me for always mentioning my brother in this sort of matters, but that's what happens with us around the house as of late. :ph43r:

:lol: Hehe its okie, thank goodness me bro is older and i'll just have to tug his sleeve a bit and he'll give in to me.

erm i guess younger sliblings sometimes do have their ways around the household :ph43r: But of cos, I am an example of a terribly understanding younger sis :lol:

I don't understand why some of us can't see it too..:huh: I was like telling my friend how we were doing some love triangle debates and she was like "wth? is there that much to debate about? I thought it was damn clear who the official couple is?" :unsure:

That may be so, but some refuse to admit it or see it. :rolleyes: One example, my brother and there's my ex-roommate from boarding school. She's currently playing the game now and is apparently a Cloti fan.

Only my 'twin' sister (she's not really my twin, but we have a similar personality) she agrees that Aerith is a better match for Cloud. She doesn't believe love is just about sex and such.

Oh yeah, she even agrees that Aerith is better for Cloud as she accepted him for what he was and not because of a promise.

HEEEEEY! That's really GOOD! I'm gonna bat that around in the LT debates!

I guess many Cloti just need something to support their arguments. Although saying that Cloud and Tifa slept under the highwind is very vague as there isn't much to point out that they did. Not all Cloti fans are like that but its always the stuck up stubborn ones who really have nothing to do besides flame, call people names and can't even set an argument right without getting rebuttal.
If it was such a romantic scene like so many Cloti claimed it to be, I think I would see Cloud confessing that he feel the same way too. That was such an open opportunity for him, my question is," That's the moment for Cloud. So, why is Cloud showing not even one speck of interest in that moment ?" He's like so far away, arm crossed, agree and disagree, "......." and the scene blacks out. Cloud is clearly not set on the past feelings in that moment. Funny, him being far away, its like that "so-called" evidence in AC, that pic with Tifa, Marlene, Denzel, and Cloud. Why would he be so far away? It looks to me like his face is turned slightly to the side. In sadness? Hates pics.? But I don't wanna speculate and start assuming things, asking questions is a lot better. :rolleyes:

*pat-pat FF_Goddess* It's okay FF_G! I would be pretty angry if some weird CloTis started stalking me. Oh, by pretty angry, I mean frothing-at-the-mouth and spitting-out-swear-words angry. :lol: I

Andine, we're sorry if we offend you. :( I can guess that most of the time we act that way is because so much CloTis come barging in saying that Cleris is so wrong... I mean... wouldn't that cause a somewhat unbridled anger to build inside you?

Of course, many Clerises love Tifa too, it's just the way so much fans of hers are acting. We continue to love Tifa the game character, but not her deranged fans. However, sometimes we tend to get a little... er... agressive too.


I have nothing to think about the Highwind scene. I mean, Nomura is the mastermind behind the game. (Evil mastermind - he's making us Clerises suffer without any pics of Aeris!!! :() If Cloud and Tifa had a relationship, he would just adjust the game to suit a Cloti style. Now, the game has tilted towards the Cleris side.

The Highwind scene has nothing romantic. If I say anything however, I'll just be repeating what previous posters have said. ^_^


I also remember one Cloti saying something about the scene. The Cloti stated that at the Highwind scene, "Why couldn't Cloud have sex with Tifa? I mean, it's the final battle to determine if it would really be the end of the world - with a chance he wouldn't come out of it alive. Why couldn't he have sex with the woman he had loved for years?"

First off, he would be defacing Aerith's memory. The Cloti also stated that, "he had a chance and why would he care if he defaced a memory?". That person - Aeris - had seen through the cold facade he carried. She made him fully appreciate who he was. Why would he deface the memory that brought him so much hope?

Aiks... is this how they really think???? Yikes and eew.... don't they have other things to think about? I agree that Cloud should do something worthwhile, but definitely not that, especially after he learned his true memory of her. Sex is not neccessarily done out of or love *knocks a transparent Cloti fan on the head* . :P

Talking about defacing a memory, I ask the same question, why would Cloud want to forget or overwrite a memory of someone whom brought back the happiness and laughter in his life after many years? :unsure: :ph43r: :(

What sex under the Highwind?

I saw that scene as a desperate Tifa trying to clutch onto Cloud, which he flat-out refused because he loves Aerith. The morning scene to me was a bit awkward, like Cloud was being polite to Tifa so he allowed her to rest on him untuil she woke up. There wasn't a hint of affection in Cloud's voice, so I don't think that 'sex-scene' happened at all.

Unlike Enima, all my three brothers supported CloudxAerith. They hated the idea of CloudxTifa because it just wasn't right, and they hated the 'Night Under the Highwind' scene even more.

The entire problem revolves around Cloud. We both know that Tifa and Aeris are in love with him, but both sides of the fandom are clinging onto the hope that Cloud is love with *insert name of girl you support with him*. Obviously, this is where Aeris fans win. Because Cloud is love with Aeris, and fact is a fact.

You're very lucky, Aprillis. Your brothers seem like the open-minded type, unlike my brother and sister. Even when I was younger, when my brother never got his way, he'll end up hurting others just because he's 'stronger'. <_<

When he was four he nearly blinded me when he threw a pen at my eye. Now the craze is about FFVII and Advent Children, he thinks that all the 'information' and 'facts' that he gathers from all sorts of sites is better then what I dig from this forum and any other place/site I go to.

The excuse is that the sites he goes to are 'official', that's why he's 'right' and I'm 'wrong'. :rolleyes:

He himself has never finished the game or most of it like I have, but still he wants to talk. <_< :ph43r:

Brothers are all like that. My brother almost choked me to death whne I was 7 because I refused to ring the doorbell (we were stuck outside) because it was raining and I didn't want to get my hair wet. He then sat on me and strangled my neck ^^;

Brothers who think that they're always right are a pain in the arse, but when you get them on your side, they become powerful assets. :ph43r: Tell him to finish the game first, and then say "HAH!" right to his face.

(Of course, there'll be the whole "Cloud have finally chosen Tifa because Aeris's hand changed into Tifa's" problem to deal with...)

I'm currently trying that, but still he doesn't listen to me. He says that maybe he won't be continuing where he left of as his main objective really was to date Yuffie. But even so, he still believes that Tifa deserves Cloud. <_<

I just got out of the hospital a few days ago because I had to go for surgery. Found out that there was a growth in my left thyroid so it had to be removed. Even now, when he knows I'm sort of 'disabled', he still has no respect and picks a fight.
According to what I heard from my sister, he was complaining the whole time in the hospital about how I always got everyone's attention and he doesn't. <_<

Ai... the day I really say "HAH!" in his face, may be the day we watch Advent Children or I make him finish FFVII with me as I'm almost done with it. :(

I hope your brother is treating you better now.

My brother won't even play FFVII. He hates RPGs. I'll just look at that in a good way since at least he isn't a Cloud/Tifa supporter "because she has big boobs".

Really? I hope you recover well :)

Not all guys like girls with big boobs... and what? Don't play RPG? No fun at all...

Thanks , Aprillis. I'm ok but the doctor and my grand aunty recommends me not to move to much and take it easy.

So I can't be really active and help with all the heavy chores around the house whic usually I do. Not just that, no martial arts or swimming for about two weeks
:( . I can't even sing till the wound is healed.

But the bright side is , that I can still go on the pc to play FFVII and chat with all of you here :) :D :P .

Yup, some guys prefer girls with nice figure or cute features and such. It's not always big boobs that count. But sadly, most of my guy friends look for girls with big boobs :huh: . :wacko: -_- :ph43r: .

What surprises me most is that around 30% of my guy friends don't play RPG or don't play video games at all. :blink: But I don't mind as they're still my friends.

Get well Enima! ^_^


Meep, I just played the Highwind scene yesterday -so close to finishing the game!!!- and I found nothing romantic. I even thought Tifa was somewhat clingy because she asked Cloud if she could rest on his shoulder longer. <_<

How could Clotis find that romantic?

Awww.... I just now read this, Enima! I'm sorry to hear about your surgery, and I hope you get to feeling better soon! :D Perhaps you already are, since you wrote about this almost three weeks ago. :rolleyes:

I could never understand how they found that scene romantic, either. It took me about two years of debating them about it to find out why they think it's romantic. They think that when Cloud says, "But now that we're together like this, I don't know what I really wanted to say..." "I guess nothing's changed at all... Kind of makes you want to laugh...", that Cloud means he still loves her in the same way he did as a child. <_<

That's a huge leap, imo, since he didn't actually love her as a child. He only had a distant crush on her, which is very different from being "in love". The Cloti's assume that he means he still "loves her" because they have this ridiculous idea that Cloud and Tifa had a love relationship as children, when in reality they hardly knew one another. I think what Cloud's really saying is that he feels just as awkward around her as he always felt. Why else would it make him want to laugh? ;)

Two years, Aly? Wow, that's long... and here I am, knowing it only after a day and a half of asking... :D Meeep...


By "nothing's changed at all", could Cloud mean that he still didn't know her as well yet? :unsure: When they were children, they barely knew each other, and now that he's saying that, does it still mean that he doesn't know her as well? Grrr... too much brainpower for today... XD


By the way Aly, (off-topic) nice layout!!! :D

Which version does he say 'nothing's changed at all' on? I noticed the Japanese script for the "words are the only way..." version doesn't mentioned anything about changing, just him having a lot he wants to talk to Tifa about but when there together like there are during that scene he doesn't really know what he wanted to talk about.

Wowsers... he doesn't actually say that? :lol: What a riot.

The bit about "... I guess nothing's changed at all... kind of makes you want to laugh ..." is from the NA version. It's in my version of the game, and it's in the script of the NA game: FFVII script at RPGamer

BTW, in that scene, you said that the Japanese version showed Cloud saying, "..... Tifa....." after she says, "Words aren't the only thing that tell people what you're thinking". Would you check to see whether he says her name after Tifa says that line? Because there is another place in that same scene where Cloud does say her name like that:

Tifa "Hmm... But that's all right, even if no one comes back." "As long as I'm with you... As long as you're by my side... I won't give up even if I'm scared."
(He uncrosses his arms and looks at Tifa.)
Cloud "...... Tifa......"

However, the NA version only shows him saying, "............" after Tifa says "Words aren't the only thing that tell people what you're thinking". He doesn't say her name in the NA version.

Tifa "Cloud... Words aren't the only thing that tell people what you're thinking..."
(Cloud looks at her. She continues to stare past the player, into space. She straightens her hair again with one hand.)
Cloud "............"

I meant if it was the high or low affection version where he says it (since most of the Japanese scripts I've found online only seem to have the "words aren't..." version.

The Japanese script has him going ".... Tifa...." on both (on the first one, it goes '..... [full stop/period] Tifa....' and the second is 'Tifa......').

First line:

ティファ 「うん……。それでも私……平気だよ。たとえ、だれももどってこなくても」
「クラウドと一緒なら……クラウドが、そばにいてくれるなら…… こわくても……負けないよ、私……」

クラウド 「…………。ティファ……」

After the "words..." line:

ティファ 「クラウド……。想いをつたえられるのは言葉だけじゃないよ……」

クラウド 「ティファ………」