The new picture of Aerith released in a scan this week looks like when she's praying in the Forgotten City before her death:



I really don't like the idea of the Death Scene being recreated... but why would SE include it? Could it be that Aerith makes Cloud remember it in order to help him understand that he shouldn't feel guilty about what happened? Or is this just a flashback of it for the very beginning of the movie where they summarize what happened in FFVII? :unsure:

I don't want the Death Scene to be recreated just so that we can see Cloud's reaction. If they want to show his reaction, then show him walking up the crystal staircase with her body From the underground chamber to the lake after her death. They can easily show his grief there. I really hate the thought of seeing Aerith die again. *shudder* :sad:

I think it's both. Aerith (probably after the mysterious encounter with her in the flower field) is probably the trigger for Cloud to relive the death scene... it serves as a flashback for the audience to understand why Cloud seeks forgiveness so badly from Aerith, and at the same time, it might serve as a driving force for Cloud to regain his strength to fight the badies i.e. not let Aerith's death be in vain afterall.

But how can a re-enactment help people who haven't played FFVII understand Cloud's guilt? To me, Cloud's guilt goes far beyond what happened in the Death Scene. Her death was horrible, but what Aerith meant to Cloud can never be communicated by her death alone. Isn't at least part of his guilt based on their relationship, what they shared together, and Cloud being forced to live without her? How can that be communicated by the Death Scene alone? I think it's way too simplistic to portray a horrible death and expect people to understand from it why Cloud is so guilty.

My reaction to learning that they'll recreate the Death Scene is that they're doing it more for the shock value than anything else. <_<

True true, it's too simplistic to convey the relationship between CLoud and Aerith.. :(
But AC is only 90 mins long, the producers cannot possibly portray every single scene of Cloud and Aerith... the most poignant scene is thus showed - explaining why Cloud is feeling grief and angst, and why Cloud hates Sephy so much.

Well, for those who haven't played the game, I think its for people to understand what has happened. After all, it is an important part of the game, when Aeris dies. it affects everyone, even people who play it. :aeris:

But in the film, what part it plays... I think it is just a flashback maybe of what Cloud has, because Square maybe want to show how much Cloud has been suffering without her. Poor Cloudy. :cloud:

Also the to give us impact, they want to get us feeling emotional, and they know doing that would definately affect us.

Aerith's death scene was a legend in its own right outside the game. It could be shown as a reason to Cloud's grief and guilt or it could be used right at the beginning of the movie as a flashback as you said Aly.

The beginning may be some scenes of VII to show what happened before AC and Aerith's death would definately have to be in there.

I personally would love at the opening credits for when it states "A Square Enix Film" blah blah blah to have Aerith's Theme being played in its orchestra form with maybe Marlene and Aerith herself as a narrator telling a brief tale of what happened in VII.

I'm really against it because the scene is legendary and because I don't think it can be truly appreciated out of the context of the game. Of course, most people who watch AC will have played FFVII, but still... there's many people who laughed at Aerith's death and who minimized the importance of her character the first time. I'm afraid that recreating the scene will only do the same thing again.

Not all of us understood the significance of Cloud losing the woman he loved. Even if Cloud displays grief in that moment, there's people who will shrug it off as nothing more than shock at the loss of a friend.

I would much rather see a scene that conclusively shows Cloud's love for Aerith rather than a recreation of a scene that can be misinterpreted. People will be getting off on seeing Aerith skewered like a barbeque and laughing about it. I think it'll bring more Aerith ridicule than sympathy for her. Those people who didn't understand Cloud's grief the first time they saw it will just shrug off any tears or sadness as shock at the loss of a friend.

I don't think it will help the idea that Cloud is still in grief because he lost the woman he loves. I think there's much better ways to do that than recreating the Death Scene.

I can see a couple things happening...

The scene being a flashback that Cloud has just to show that his pain is over her death and how he didn't save her. Or Square could add more to it. Like something the FFVII gamers missed. Maybe Aeris whispers something to him right before she dies just to add a little more irony? Or Aeris and Cloud have a little moment where their gazes connect and you can just TELL something is happening there? Square could do so many things with this scene and I am really interested in what they are planning to do with these graphics. I trust them, and if they do decide to recreate the death scene, I am SURE it will be beautifully dramatic.

If they were to add something to it, I wouldn't mind it so much. If anything were added to it, I'd love to see Cloud whisper, "I love you" to Aerith before lowering her body into the lake or something like that. I'd rather doubt that SE would do something like that, though.

I just hate the thought of seeing her die again. *sigh*

To tell the truth, I don't really care if it's in there. I'm going to cry anyway. But if seeing Aerith in the flower field triggers it, I might not even look at the screen.

I don't think they could leave out the most emotional scene in ff7. I'm not really against it, for some reason, watching the death scene doesn't make me cry anymore. I'm worried... One time I even laughed because my brother cracked a stupid joke about it. :unsure:

It's sad, but I don't think there's any way to get around her death scene. We should never forget her.

Anastar you took the words right out of my mouth.

My thoughts exactly.

Seeing her die in VII's graphics was bad enough but having to watch it in high quality CG would just be unbearable. :sad:

Oooooooooooooooor perhaps they're not gonna re-create it at ALL, and this is just an extra picture of Aeris to put on the disc. The pics of Cloud and Sephiroth aren't from the movie
And think about it, this is a VERY typical Aeris image, it makes perfect sense to me

I'm going to second Sefie on this one - the "pray" position seems to be a common on for Aerith (remember that she does it briefly in the E3 trailer as well - not AC related, but I'm establishing a pattern of behavior :P ). That, and the background seems too blurred and/or nonspecified to be able to clearly designate it as the Forgotten City. Prepare for the worst... but hope for the best.

I completely agree, EK. The first time was bad enough. I don't want to see it in even clearer and more exact detail. *shudder*

I think it'd be odd for the magazine to place a picture of Aerith that's not from the movie in among screenshots of the movie. The pics of Cloud and Sephy might very well be from the movie. We haven't seen it yet. :P

I'd rather remember Aerith for scenes other than the Death Scene.

SE is smart. They know it's a painful scene. American companies would be including it for the shock value. Maybe SE has other ideas. I sure hope so. :sad:

Maybe this could do something with it such as showing Aerith, then Cloud and then Aerith again like in that redone picture of her and then moving to above her and when can see Sephiroth falling down to her. Then the screen would go black and would hear the "thrust" of the blade going to through her.

Then maybe go to the scene of her burial. I don't know.

Honestly...those idiots who laugh at Aerith's death are missing out on an awful lot. It's THEIR loss if they laugh again at seeing Aerith dying in CG, it's supposed to be an emotional scene, it's supposed to elicit tears and sympathy...but they laugh, nyah,nyah, shez ded...they're missing the point. If they do show the death scene again, for shock value, emotional value, or whatsoever reason, I doubt that people seeing it for the first time will laugh.
I was just thinking that Cloud places a lot of emphasis on the "But I let her die". Also, they show him laying her to rest in the City. It's all about Cloud's guilt and grief...and showing the death scene will only emphasize that.
Now I don't remember clearly but in one of the trailer scripts, Marlene narrates something like "a person we cared deeply about left us..." so I'm thinking they will show it during the narration, maybe not in detail but perhaps in a series of fast clips.

That's exactly what I envisioned happening. I don't think AC will show something as graphic as the sword actually going through Aerith, so ambigiuity and blank scenes are the way to go. I can see the scene above happening, and then immediately switching to the burial scene we've all seen in the AC trailers, Marlene's narration occuring throughout.

I don't think we should have to care about the people who laughed at Aerith's death. Anybody who did obviously hated her anyway, whereas any fair-minded person without silly biases would know that the entire scene was meant to be emotional and sorrowful. Even rational non-Aerith fans knew her death was important, not something to be laughed at.

I think showing her death scene will be important, not only to show how much she meant to Cloud-- but also to show the extent of Sephiroth's evil. Show, not tell. Marlene could blab away all day about how terrible Sephiroth was, but watching a few painful seconds of Aerith's death will be more than enough to deliver the message.

Me neither, hon. Adding a line like that would only settle the LTD, and if I were SE, I wouldn't want to risk pissing off a good half of my fanbase just to clear up a love triangle. It's more profitable for them to give us vague hints and leave the interpretation to us.

And I didn't cry at Aerith's death scene when I first played the game, but I think it was because I was too shocked at the time. :wacko: She was my second best character after Cloud, I kept her in the party all the time, and after that I turned to my brother and asked, "...Oh my GOD. I just lost my main healer. WHO AM I GONNA USE NOW?!! Everyone else SUCKS!!"

:aeris: > the world.

It's not so much a matter of caring what other people think as it is wanting to avoid another uproar of laughter. I think recreating the scene will start it all up again when it was nearly over.

Perhaps in the beginning narration for a few brief seconds. What I'm worried about is it being used in the main part of the movie when Aerith confronts Cloud with what happened that day.

I agree that AC will be left inconclusive. I was just dreaming about things that would be nice to see. ;)

I'd have to agree. I'd rather be happy when I think about her (which is quite often) not sad.

Exactly. I could care less what all the Aerith-haters think or do. They can all bite my ass. :whistle: The idiots that laugh when Aerith dies are pathetic. They have completely missed out on the entire point of the game! The point of the game is life and death. Aerith's death was hugely important. It was meant to convey feelings of loss and pain for the player. I mean, just look at Nomura's words on the subject:

"To tell you the truth, FFVII's theme was 'life'. We had instructions from Mr. Sakaguchi saying, 'More than depicting life in the theme, you have to depict life and death. Anyhow you have to portray death.' With the death of a character, we wanted to have the player feel pain. So to do so, portraying the death of the heroine Aerith would be the most painful and important/heavy [on the feelings/emotions]. So, to portray death properly, it was decided that we would show Aerith's death."

It is interesting to see that they wanted to make the most of the death, a death that would affect the players and the characters the greatest... and they picked Aerith, the heroine of FFVII. In fact, these interviews show just how important Aerith's death was meant to be, for all of the morons who missed that point (rabid CloTis). [/rant] :blush:

Exactly. They don't necessarily have to show poor Aerith being butchered. But, they could show her on the alter, the approach of Sephiroth, and the aftermatch (including how her death affected all of the characters, especially Cloud). I definitely want to see her funeral scene and the last moments Cloud shared with her, gently placing her body in the water. Like someone suggested, they could even have Cloud whisper something to her to confirm his feelings for her before he lets her sink into the water. It probably wouldn't happen, but I can dream anyways... :rolleyes:

Or an extra scene of him picking her ribbon up after everyone leaves. :whistle:

Awww!!! :wub: That would be great!!!

We already know he visits her grave when he is in the Forgotten City with Vincent (after the fight with the SHM)... :cleris:

I just don't see the point unless SE adds to the scene in some way. People will have the exact same reaction to the scene that they had the first time if SE recreates it exactly like it was in the original game. If Cloud clearly cries upon Aerith's death, those tears will be written off as something meaningless such as shock upon seeing a friend murdered. I don't think it'll change anyone's original interpretation of the scene unless something is added, such as Cloud whispering, "I love you" to Aerith before letting her body go into the water. Unless something like that is added to the scene, people will simply react to it the same way they reacted the first time. I don't see any point.

I don't think we can make such a broad generalization yet. Yes, we saw them next to the lake after Vincent rescued Cloud, but I don't think we can conclusively say that they went there in order to pay their respects. That's like the Cloti's saying that Cloud had sex with Tifa because we saw them sitting under the Highwind together.

I wasn't saying that Cloud went to the Forgotten City just to visit Aerith's grave. In fact, it wouldn't surprise me at all if he avoided the place to keep from bringing up such painful memories. But, the fact remains that, after being rescued by Vincent, Cloud stopped at Aerith's lake and gazed into its depths. He could have just left without paying his respects at all. But, he stopped at her gravesite.

I don't think we can make that assumption. Cloud was sitting by the banks and hanging his head. How do we know he was gazing into its depths and thinking of Aerith? How do we know that Cloud and Vincent didn't land there after Vincent rescued Cloud? After all, the SHM were right by the lake when Vincent rescued Cloud.

I think it's pure assumption to say that Cloud and Vincent purposefully walked over to the lake to pay respects to Aerith. I would like for it to be true, and it's completely possible... but we have no verification of it yet.

Yea,I know what you meen,and the fact that he won't revive her in Advent children,only makes it worse.

And I hate it even more when poeple say her death was not in vain.I know it may seem cold when I say that,but come on.You can say what you have to say without saying that.

Damn the most fustrating thing is when every shot of Aeris happens to have missing eyes,ears, her full forehead and hair, must I need to predict that maybe they will never show her face until AC's out.This teasing is so mean..... :cry: .Tis not funny nor fun anymore.:sad:

I don't want to see the death scene yet do. I hope they don't show everything of Aerith's death scene but minor shots of what happened.So that the viewers will at least know why Cloud is acting the way he is in AC or to show how important Aeris was again. I believe this will be a tragic scene and will always remain memorable. Nothing will change except the ppl who are emotion-less and just laugh. But this is like telling me this scene is the reason why Cloud is sufixed in his grief or personal emotion on Aerith.

Some ppl don't know who Aerith is,so when they see this they would see her impact in FVII.And see what she did.While they get to take a look on Seph's demonic way.

I don't want to see it, because I don't know how this will roll in the movie I don't know how Square would put this death scene in the movie. If they're gonna put something we haven't seen or what who's to tell.

But this is a tragic of which Cloud has now been inflicted since AC has begun,and why he's such like the way he is in AC,so that would be a good cause showing it to some new viewers and old ones.

I really doubt that many people are going to watch the movie without knowing what happened in FFVII. How many copies were sold worldwide? About 17 million? More? How many millions of copies have been rented or borrowed? If nothing else, most viewers will have a friend or relative who played FFVII. There's even people on this forum who haven't played the game, but they know darn well that Sephiroth killed Aerith.

It's not like Sephiroth killing Aerith is an obscure game fact that no one knows about. The majority of Final Fantasy fans know about it. Very few people are going to see the movie without knowing that Sephiroth killed Aerith. Very few people who aren't familiar with what happened in the game are going to want to see the movie.

So it's not like SE needs to include the Death Scene to inform people why Cloud feels guilty or why he hates Sephiroth. I still don't see any reason that SE needs to include the Death Scene in the movie. The only reason that I can possibly see for including the Death Scene is to add something to it that we didn't see in FFVII.

Even if it is a very sad part, it is also one of the most important parts of the game, and the biggest link with Cloud's actual state. I wouldn't be surprised if previous to Aerith's burial, we were shown her death, probably that would be shown at the first part of the movie (when Cloud was still angsty), as a flashback.

I actually would like to see the Death Scene recreated because it's a good possibility that SE would add things that weren't included in FFVII. Plus it would give people a good insight on why Cloud is the way he is and why he's seeking forgiveness from a woman who, if people who haven't played FFVII prior to watching the movie, isn't there and seldomly shown (from what we know, anyway). They can attain from that one scene that this woman is indeed vital and crucially important, love interest in fact, to the main protagonist and was dear to those who fought against Sephiroth. It will show that Sephiroth was a cold-blooded murderer and really hates Cloud. Plus, of course, the shock and emotional value of having to re-live the scene again or to show those who've never witnessed it, what happened.

I mean, Aerith's death scene is emotionally powerful whether you've played up to that point in the game or not. I remember re-playing FFVII a few years ago and I had just gotten to the Forgotten City and Cloud&co. were spending the night there. A friend of mine came over and was watching me play from that point. She had never even heard of FFVII before so she seeing this game for the first time. When she saw Aerith die, she was just shocked and yelled out "Oh my God!! Why did he kill that poor girl!?" And when Cloud buried her, there were tears in my friend's eyes. SE did a fantastic job to be able to draw out emotions in people who have witnessed this scene alone; of course, to those who played the game from the beginning feel the gravity and enormity of this loss much more than people who have little background knowledge of why this happened.

So, after that drabble, I wouldn't mind seeing it again (I'm actually quite curious to see what it will look like) but if it isn't show then I won't mind that either. As for the people who laughed when she was killed, they're just stupid and too ignorant to see the fact that: HEY, someone was just KILLED. They're just immature. <_<

It looks like the death scene will be recreated Ally....New Comercial