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Title: Everything Will Be Settled
Description: CxA? CxT? it will settle everything!


angel_aeris - August 9, 2005 11:07 PM (GMT)
Advent children will finesh the whole war between CxA and CxT supporters! what do you think it'll be like without all the arguing?

Materia Thief - August 9, 2005 11:10 PM (GMT)
Well, I somehow doubt it'd end the war, considering that the ending will most likely be ambigous. :unsure:

It'd be nice if it did however. ^_^

Rikkulicious - August 9, 2005 11:12 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (angel_aeris @ Aug 9 2005, 11:07 PM)
Advent children will finesh the whole war between CxA and CxT supporters! what do you think it'll be like without all the arguing?

Hm...I don't think it will, people will still argue about Cloti and Cleris no matter what, besides, FF7:AC may not even give us closure on the Love Triangle. I would suck, but S-E doesn't wanna disappoint a large majority of Cloti or Cleris fans. ^_^ But I think there will be less arguing, I can only hope.

angel_aeris - August 9, 2005 11:12 PM (GMT)
what do you think would happen at the end? i don't have a clue what to epect for the ending! :lol:

Rikkulicious - August 9, 2005 11:23 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (angel_aeris @ Aug 9 2005, 11:12 PM)
what do you think would happen at the end? i don't have a clue what to epect for the ending! :lol:

You know, it's just that, I really don't have a clue either! ^_^ I know that S-E will do it the right way, though, whether Cloti, Cleris, whatever, either way I'm sure I'll end up happy, S-E wouldn't dare mess up FF7, and there's a chance I'll finally know which coupling is canon! :lol:

angel_aeris - August 9, 2005 11:26 PM (GMT)
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You know, it's just that, I really don't have a clue either!  I know that S-E will do it the right way, though, whether Cloti, Cleris, whatever, either way I'm sure I'll end up happy, S-E wouldn't dare mess up FF7, and there's a chance I'll finally know which coupling is canon! 


yeh that would be so good! i just hope its a happy ending! i cant wiat for it! but living in enland, they havn't reliesed a date for it shipping here yet. Anyway i hope cloud finaly finds true happiness! :D

vashsunglasses - August 10, 2005 01:39 AM (GMT)
This sounds kinda mean but I'm hoping for a sad/angsty ending. I love movies that don't have the standard happy ending.

Anastar - August 10, 2005 02:17 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (angel_aeris @ Aug 9 2005, 11:07 PM)
Advent children will finesh the whole war between CxA and CxT supporters! what do you think it'll be like without all the arguing?

What makes you think it'll settle everything between Cloti and Cleris supporters? :unsure: Square never said they would resolve the Love Triangle in AC. They only said they would touch on it.

Aerith_Chan12 - August 10, 2005 03:40 AM (GMT)
Yeah i hope they resolve the whole thing. I just SE finally reunites Aeris and Cloud.

Kusari Yarou - August 10, 2005 04:19 AM (GMT)

If it ends ambiguous, then the ship wars will continue. No doubt about that
If it ends conclusively, count on explosions from one side, bashing and gloating from the other side.
I just hope we'll be able to control ourselves if it does end Cleris :P
If it ends Cloti, methinks we better make this a protected forum so as to avoid triumphant Cloti invasions. I don't think we should shut it down though; even if it ends Cloti, I'd still believe that Cloud had loved Aerith and continues to keep her in his heart.
Even if one side is declared canon, it will not entirely finish the 'war'. Look at the Harry Potter ship wars *shudder*

Kaldea - August 10, 2005 05:30 AM (GMT)
Cloud ends up single because Square loves me. ^_^

yin-chan - August 10, 2005 05:39 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Kusari Yarou @ Aug 10 2005, 03:19 PM)
even if it ends Cloti, I'd still believe that Cloud had loved Aerith and continues to keep her in his heart.

Well said, I agree completely. Even if it ended Cloti, I will always believe that Cloud loved her in FF7 - even if for a little while.

Cloud_ - August 10, 2005 11:58 AM (GMT)
I dont think it will be ended in AC.

SE wont decide who Cloud does love (Cleris!! :D) becuase one side would get mad...

Kuki Prower - August 10, 2005 05:21 PM (GMT)
Even if it was resolved the CloTi and Cloris war would never end. Because of the on going rift that will never stop each side will continuing attacking each other. Because they still stand for what they believe in.

Heh. Imagines CloTi's getting a petition together to SE saying that the Cleris bribed them into making it Cleris.

No matter what, I would still believe Cloud loved Aerith.

yin-chan - August 10, 2005 05:38 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Leon_Geeste @ Aug 11 2005, 04:21 AM)
Heh. Imagines CloTi's getting a petition together to SE saying that the Cleris bribed them into making it Cleris.

:lmao: :lmao: It definitely sounds like something they would do!!!!

That would be the most ridiculous petition ever. :lol: I hope I live to sign it. :rolleyes:

Anastar - August 10, 2005 05:40 PM (GMT)
Both sides think they have proof that Cloud loved a particular girl. The Cloti's think they have proof. Cleris people also think that we have proof that Cloud loved Aerith. It all comes down to how you interpreted the game.

One interpretation of the story MAY be correct, but SE is also very aware that there are many different interpretations of Cloud's love interest and FFVII in general. Not only are there groups of people who support Cloti and Cleris, but there are also people who think that Cloud loved Yuffie, that Cloud loved Zack, that Cloud loved Barret, that Cloud loved Sephiroth, and that Cloud loved no one.

SE has already said that the Advent Children Team had decided not to contradict the different interpretations of the game held by different gamers. I think that means that they will not resolve the Love Triangle in the movie. I think it'll be left just as inconclusive as the game.

Cloudsgirl - August 10, 2005 08:21 PM (GMT)
Well, I'm HOPING we at least get some CxA love, but romance isn't the central plot of the story. It'd be nice if we get an end to the storyline, but I smell a sequel.

Wingless - August 11, 2005 02:21 AM (GMT)
Anastar's probably right. There's a definite possibility that, while the triangle will be touched on, there will never be a conclusion. But think about it, though. If the worst happens, and Cloud goes back to the orphanage with Tifa, what does that mean? Only that he'll help her raise the kids and work with her. That still doesn't mean that they'll have a romantic relationship, or that he'll forget Aerith.

With all the new scenes coming out for AC that show a Clerith bias, I think it's safe to hope for Cloud at the very least holding Aerith dear to his heart. I think we can probably hope for more, too. :) So I have a hope that, no matter what, SE will show that Cloud did love Aerith during the game, and that he will continue to love her, even if he decides to live to protect the world she loved so much. Even if he decides to protect children with a woman who is his dear friend. I think that would still be a very satisfying ending. :) As long as SE shows that Aerith remains in Cloud's heart, I won't be disappointed. ^_^

But even if the story does end CloTi, that will not change the fact that Cloud did love Aerith in the original Final Fantasy VII. So even if Cloud starts a romantic relationship with Tifa, it doesn't change the fact that he loved Aerith during the short time he met her and continued to grieve for her two years after she died. I think that's a very profound love, and well worthy of our continued support. :)

So no matter what, I think we'll be pleased. :) I think it's the CloTis who will probably be disappointed, because there can be no real conclusion for them unless Cloud openly rejects Aerith; because if he doesn't openly reject Aerith, that means he still holds her dear in his heart. And how can the CloTis prove that he holds Tifa as more dear than Aerith? :P They can't, of course. :) So really, no matter what, Clerith is still a part of Final Fantasy VII. :)

Anastar - August 11, 2005 10:29 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Wingless @ Aug 11 2005, 02:21 AM)
But even if the story does end CloTi, that will not change the fact that Cloud did love Aerith in the original Final Fantasy VII.  So even if Cloud starts a romantic relationship with Tifa, it doesn't change the fact that he loved Aerith during the short time he met her and continued to grieve for her two years after she died.  I think that's a very profound love, and well worthy of our continued support.

The only thing is that the Cloti's will distort a Cloti ending to prove that Cloud has always loved Tifa, and that his feelings for Tifa didn't change while Aerith was alive. We need confirmation that Cloud did indeed love Aerith while she was alive, and that Cloud would choose to be with Aerith if she were still alive. We've never had conclusive evidence of Cloud's love for Aerith that can't be disputed by the Cloti's.

My interpretation of the game was also that Cloud would continue searching for Aerith until he found her rather than starting a relationship with Tifa. A Cloti ending would negate that.

Another thing is that I think it would be highly unfair to Cleris fans for Cloud to never have the opportunity for a relationship with Aerith while being able to spend the rest of his life with Tifa. That's not at all fair to Cleris fans. :angry:

A relationship between Cloud and Tifa is also very problematic. Communication is very poor between them, and Tifa has a tendency to smother Cloud. I would really rather not see Cloud get involved with Tifa. I think a relationship between them would be very poor.

As a result, I'd much rather that the ending be inconclusive than having a definite Cloti ending.

Yukari - August 11, 2005 01:21 PM (GMT)
I'd love for it to be settled, but I highly doubt that AC will conclude the love triangle and make one couple canon. As Aly said, the AC Team were told to stop before they contradicted the views of many gamers. For that reason, I don't think that CloTi or CloRis will happen in AC.




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