u know, how cloud & aeris met is like real fate here. i mean.. luckily aeris's flower bed broke cloud's fall ! :D it was totally unpredictable that they would meet in that sort of way.. i mean, that is very rare. :cleris: boy i love this couple so much!!! too bad most people hate cleris... CLOUD & AERIS FOREVER!!!

also, i think of only tifa as a really close female friend to cloud. i hope it wouldn't be something more, because what they already have together is very lovely.. and to be honest, i don't really like the zack x aeris couple either.. not that i don't like zack OR tifa, just not with aeris or cloud. <_< i bet vincent/tifa would make a great couple, they are both.. very alike.. i don't kno how to explain this.

sorry for lost of topic. :blush: anyway.. how do u feel about how cloud & aeris met ?

Didnt cluod buy a flower from Aerith the first time they met? :moogle: it was destiny though and their destiny will be intertwined for AC :cleris:

o yes.. that's very true :whistle: but they introduced themselves in the church.. but yea they first met when cloud bought the flower :gift:

Actually, almost all FF couples have the 'destiny factor', boy meets girl and she just HAPPENS to be the one who would have a contributing factor to the plot.
Just as an example: Squall met Rinoa and she just HAPPENED to be one of the last descendants of Sorceress Hyne which has a later impact on the plot.
I'd say Cloud and Aerith have a stronger 'destiny factor' than Cloud and Tifa. In the case of Cloud and Tifa, there was no room for coincidences or seemingly fated meetings because they already knew each other.
However, for Cloud and Aerith:
Cloud fell through the roof of Aerith's church.
-it just happened that Zack was her ex-boyfriend and that he was Cloud's friend
-it just happened that Cloud resembled Zack
-it just happened that she was a Cetra and was the group's connection to the Promised Land that Sephiroth was searching for

Destiny? Well Cait Sith seems to think that it was written in the stars :cs:

We can go on with that list, too:

-it just happened that Aerith had Holy
-it just happened that Aerith was the only one who could fight Sephiroth with Holy
-it just happened that Aerith would be able to tell Cloud's party what the Cetra spirits were saying in the Temple of Ancients
-it just happened that Aerith was the only one who understood the properties of the Promised Land
-it just happened that Aerith was the only one who could sense the Promised Land

Fated to meet? Without Aerith, half of FFVII's story would be gone. If Aerith wasn't significant in FFVII, then why do the preludes in the Film Festivals explaining FFVII end with Aerith's funeral as the words say, "Two years later"? It's obviously saying that AC happens two years after Aerith's death, rather than two years after Meteor almost hit. Why does Cloud feel guilty about Aerith's death? Why do all the members of Cloud's party wear a pink ribbon in remembrance of her? Why are the SHM interested in the Forgotten City and Aerith's Church? Why is Cloud living in Aerith's Church?

Of course they were fated to meet. I think Destiny goes beyond their first meeting in the Church. I also think part of Cloud and Aerith's destiny will be Cloud meeting Aerith in the Promised Land.

Yep. :woot:

You can also notice the "Destiny" thing with IX and X.

IX - Garnet/Dagger was one of the two last surviving humans of the Summoners tribe.

X - Yuna wasn't really involved in a "Destiny" thing but she was the first person to ever be born from a human who was with "Yevon" and an "Al-Bhed". Plus her father was known as the "Grand Summoner".

Hmmm... I dunno about that. Auron led Tidus out of Zanarkand when it was attacked because he wanted to save Yuna from meeting the same fate as her father. The fate of Yuna was tied to the fate of Tidus. I'd say that Tidus and Yuna were destined to meet.

It's also quite funny that Zidane was supposed to kidnap Garnet in FFIX and she wanted to be kidnapped! :lol:

What doesw SHM mean anyway?

Back on topic: I have seen this in many other games that aren't FF. Like in Fatal Frame, but this is a FF: CxA board, so I'll not discuss it unless someone else says I can ^^

SHM= Silver-Haired Men. These are Kadaj, Yazoo, and Loz from Advent Children. ^_^

Please, do tell us about this other game. There are a lot of Cloud/Aerith clones out there in other games. :D

SHM = Silver Haired Men (Kadaj, Yazoo, Loz)

Lol, Fatal Frame does sound like an 'FF' game though, right? :D

As long as you acknoloedge some have different opinions about that,some want something else.



As far as it Destiny is concerned though,I do agree with most ideas
you guys have though.Cloud and Aerith forever.

Notice that I said, "I think", which means that it is my opinion.

Why be ambiguous about what you want? Do you want Aerith to be resurrected? I'd love for that to happen, but it looks very doubtful. Most of those who believe that Cloud loved only Aerith generally believe that Cloud will meet Aerith in the Promised Land, since he speaks of meeting her there in the Final FMV. That would make it his destiny to meet her.

I was not critisizing your belief,I think it woul;d be nice to,but there are other ways for them to reunite without going to the promise land,and without reviving her.I'll tell you later,for now,lets talk to CxA eternally.I heard you love Cloud and Aerith,glad to have another Claeris.

Why not now?
I'm curious what you have in mind ^^
This thread is not just for CxA eternally, it's for all of us to share their opinions of course! Now shoot :P

Instead of her being alive or dead,I was thinking Cloud could reunite with
her depending on certain seasons,say if its summer,she lives with him,in the winter,she lives in the promise land,because my original thought was,if she is
not alive,then the relationship is not complete,without a physical,spiritual will
be incomplete,and vise versa.But now maybe a good idea would be somwhere
in between.I'll make a sig to show,so I won't bother anybody in this thread,
especially CxA eternally. :wub:

:o .............

I don't know what to respond to that...

Urm..it would be a good idea, actually - but if she is able to live with him in summer, why can't she continue living with him throughout all the seasons?
How does she manage to go live with him in the first place? I dont understand that.

Good point, yin-chan.

I think it'd be rather odd for SE to set Aerith up in a similar situation to the Greek myth of Persephone, since Persephone's name means "destroyer of light".

I don't agree that the relationship would be incomplete. Spirits don't have the same needs as a living person, so two spirits together is just as complete as two living people together.

Besides, if we assume that Aerith is a spirit in the flower field scene, she still touched Cloud's arm... so it's possible for her spirit to touch Cloud and vice versa. Her spirit reached out for Cloud's hand in the hand reach scene. spoiler Aerith's spirit also takes Cloud's hand in the current trailer. /spoiler

I'll explain what I meen later.It not really Greek myth thing,it more of
givng Cloud time to relax,so he can plan things out,like how he will go about reviving her.Sort of a prerequisite.(yea I know,I can't spell that word,but i'm trying right?)

Okay, but we're really talking about what is most likely to happen in AC based on the story of FFVII. There's no indication that Aerith will be resurrected for six months of the year while Cloud tries to revive her. The most likely things to happen are that Cloud will die and reunite with Aerith in the Promised Land, or that he will meet her in the Promised Land somehow while he is still living.

We were talking about possible Destinies in terms of what happened in FFVII. Since Cloud said in the Final FMV, "I think I can meet her.... [in the Promised Land]", what Destiny is suggested other than meeting Aerith in the Promised Land?

By the way, you do know that Square said they never planned to resurrect Aerith, don't you?

That does not meen i can't make a Rpg maker version.
But yes I do know,and I don't need to be reminded again or
I'll be even crazier,and trust me,square would not want to
see me crazy. :devil:

yeah.. that is true. it's pretty much sad tho. :( but is it necessary for aerith to be revived for them to be together while cloud is still alive? but they can possibly meet in the promised land.. it's all destiny. or "written in the stars" :cleris:

go memories of aerith! :D if it's not meant for cxa, let's screw them over and fite for wat we believe in :whistle: (jk bout the fighting)

Sorry,but I'm the non voilent type,great idea thought.
I'm almost to the point of not caring,what happens happens. <_<

Aerith was never intended to be revived because they wanted to avoid the usual cliche of revivals and to keep her death a truly tragic event. But I think it was brilliant to kill her off because it makes her relationship with Cloud even more beautiful.

Her funeral was the most moving and beautiful scene in the game in my opinion.

heh.. yes. i'm not the violent type either, but cxa is such a great couple. i will never give up on believing :) we should probably pretend its our way if ur a lil stubborn like me. <_< like.. if cloti is the true couple of ffvii ::puke:: (which i highly doubt..), we can still support cxa like hoi.

sorry.. u can all just go back on topic :blush:

wow! i agree with you. it did make their relationship more beautiful. :D it's the most touching scene of my life.. and now im thinking differently. if they revived her, that is just too fictional, unless it's supposed to be with super magic in the fantasy world. keeping it tragic is deep & heartbreaking.. but very elegant.

I'm surprised knowone thought of a way to make it sorrowfull while reviving,there is one.Althought knowone would like the thought of
Aeriths aquiring a heart condition.Hum,what to do.Ah yes,remember
Sephiroth,well what if Sephiroth gives his life for Cloud,so that another,wich I won't mention can have a life,that way,in order for Aerith to be revived,another has to die to save her.But then once she does gets revived,she aquired a heart wound,leftover from 2 years ago,so Aerith has to have a certain medicine,but the medicine is getting rare,but that Shinra currently has it only for themselves to revive Jenova.Only problem is,Cloud is fated to die,so one of Shinra minions seeks
to make sure he meets his fight.Along the way,you have to fight Shinra zombies,who died many years ago.

Oh and make all this have a time limit,so as to add more,but if he fails,Aeriths is doomed to live eternally with a wound that constanly rapes her immune system.
Oh and Cloud Dies.


The goal would be to prevent Jenova from getting revived.



Or maybe it could have Anastar idea.Either way,I doubt it would be offcial.

I think we're talking about FF7 and AC here. The possible and the CANON.

But as Kusari Yarou mentioned, we're talking about Destiny as portrayed in FFVII and in the trailers for AC. We're only discussing possibilities based on the story by Square. Fanmade stories are not under consideration.

You're free to make an RPG maker version, but it won't be official. Our ideas are based on the official story made by Square in these forums. So please remember that in our discussions. Fanmade material does not count because it's not by Square, so please keep fanmade material out of the discussions.

I'll drink to that.
But let's not use the word FATED because it sounds so wrong with Cloud and Aerith in the context. Let's use the word "Destined" because fate is usually depicted with something bad like ill-fated or ill fate while Destiny is something good. :)
It's like when you say "you're my destiny" you can swoon (this is just an example, okay?) and if your beloved tells you, "You're the one fated for me" or "You're my fate!" SLAP HIM/HER! :lol:

May I know what does "hoi" mean? :)
Oh, please refrain from double-posting, remember, there's always the "edit" button :P

Well, it does really sound similar to the story of Persephone, which is quite the tragic story to begin with. :/. Perhaps it was unintentional, but it really does. :lol:

THEN GET THEM A BOOK ON GRAMMAR. XP

But yes, I do think they were destined to be together. It's kinda like Squall x Rinoa. They met each other through the most unlikely of circumstances and then they were reunited once more. The propability of those two events occuring is phenomenally slim. :cleris:

oh, sorry about the double posting ^^ :blush:
"hoi" is a simple term me n my friends use just to express our own way of saying.. A LOT i guess. :)

Which, as I said, is a recurring theme in many Square games.

Hahaha. It's fun to interpret that in a psychological manner. Maybe someone had a hang-up in meeting someone...
One of the staff members/execs/whoever is in Square...

That's why it's so romantic! Sure it's reused really often, but I happily lap it up each time.

I think the reason why we call it destiny is precisely because the chance of those events occuring again is too coincidental. Thus, we attribute it to outside factors like fate.

:cleris:

yup! it's really romantic, and fate has matched them together.. if cloudxtifa are possible, aren't they just forgetting about aeris? she just doesn't come and go. it's like she made a significant mark in everyone's lives. if they were only meant as "friends" (keeping the way they met), it's a little too strong for only a friendship. cloud is a boy, aeris is a girl, unlikely acquaintance. they saw eachother twice coincidentally too :fangirl:

i agree 100%! :cleris:

I still think that how Cloud and Aeris met was like written in the stars. It's destined to be that way, but fated for it to be cut off all of a sudden with death interfering, causing their separation. However, the memory of Aeris in Cloud keeps the destiny intact, therefore fulfilling what's written in the stars. ;) Hee! And once they meet again in eternity, destiny will be truly fulfilled. :wub:

*counts the number of times destiny, eternity, fate and fulfilled was written in the post* :lol:

Well, I'm not such a strong believer of fate, so I rarely view Cloud and Aerith's meeting as fate. But the coincidence that Cloud ran into her to buy a flower - and then just so happened to crash into her church - now that's a huge coincidence. Maybe...it is fate after all? :P