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swordman - July 28, 2005 10:54 PM (GMT)
Okay. I'v read a couple of fanfic and some of them are :aeris: x :sephy: . WHY WOULD ANYONE THINK AERIS AND SEPHIROTH WOULD BE TOGETHER!?!?!

Materia Thief - July 28, 2005 11:02 PM (GMT)
Umm...I never understood Sephiroth x Aeris as a pairing anyway. Maybe when he was still good, but I can't really see it still. ^^;;;

:cleris:

swordman - July 28, 2005 11:12 PM (GMT)
Sephiroth killed her. Why would you even Like someone who killed you?

Yukari - July 28, 2005 11:20 PM (GMT)
I'm actually quite a fan of AeriSeph. ^_^ It's a dark, ironic pairing, and I like that about it. It's not about thinking it would ever happen as far as canon is concerned, but rather 'what if things were different'. (Although some fanfics deal with the possibility of Sephiroth being in love with Aerith and killing her while under Jenova's control)

They say opposites attract, and you can't get more opposite than Aerith and Sephiroth. There are some awesome fanfics out there - the only problem I've encountered is with the more poor quality stories, odds are that the fic will be gratuitously CloTi too, or poor Cloud will be completely OOC. Yes, he killed her, no, it would never happen in canon, but in an AU fic where Sephiroth didn't go crackers, it can work really well.

(It doesn't seem that you're wanting to start an AeriSeph club, so I'll move this.)

Anastar - July 29, 2005 12:23 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Madame Batolli @ Jul 28 2005, 11:20 PM)
(It doesn't seem that you're wanting to start an AeriSeph club, so I'll move this.)

An Aeriseph club wouldn't be allowed, anyway. Cloud and Aerith are only allowed with one another, except for clubs about yaoi or yuri pairings.

I can see thinking of Aeriseph from a "what if things were different" perspective, but it would take Sephiroth too far OOC for me to appreciate it. Sephiroth was a brilliant tactician while he was "good", but he was still heartless. While they traveled up Mt. Nibel, two men fell from the bridge. Sephiroth wouldn't even go look for them.

I don't think Sephiroth would ever have the kind of character that Aerith would find attractive, regardless of the circumstance. He was too cold, too calculating, and too heartless even while he was "good". You'd have to take Sephiroth WAY out of character for me to even buy such a relationship.

Schala - July 29, 2005 12:33 AM (GMT)
I used to be a HUGE Aeriseph fan! In fact, it still retains a special place in my heart... Well, that fandom was mainly induced by some really great fanfics. The minute I read the Mirror Image series and Appointment with Destiny by T'Shael, I was converted. Such is the power of good fanfics.

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They say opposites attract, and you can't get more opposite than Aerith and Sephiroth. There are some awesome fanfics out there - the only problem I've encountered is with the more poor quality stories, odds are that the fic will be gratuitously CloTi too, or poor Cloud will be completely OOC. Yes, he killed her, no, it would never happen in canon, but in an AU fic where Sephiroth didn't go crackers, it can work really well.


I think so too. A Sephiroth before he went bonkers just might have been able to have a relationship with Aeris. His pre-Nibelheim self seems to be simply quiet, focused, and cold. I actually saw him more as a victim to Shinra's foolishness, so who knows?

Yukari - July 29, 2005 01:20 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Anastar @ Jul 29 2005, 01:23 AM)
I can see thinking of Aeriseph from a "what if things were different" perspective, but it would take Sephiroth too far OOC for me to appreciate it. Sephiroth was a brilliant tactician while he was "good", but he was still heartless. While they traveled up Mt. Nibel, two men fell from the bridge. Sephiroth wouldn't even go look for them.

I don't think Sephiroth would ever have the kind of character that Aerith would find attractive, regardless of the circumstance. He was too cold, too calculating, and too heartless even while he was "good". You'd have to take Sephiroth WAY out of character for me to even buy such a relationship.

I don't know, Aly. I don't think pre-insane Sephiroth was completely heartless, and we really didn't see enough of his past and what shaped his character to draw any definite conclusions about him. He did seem to be quite desperate to prove he wasn't made in the same way as the monsters in the Nibelheim reactor, he read book after book in Shinra Mansion to find out who he really was. He also seemed curious about how Cloud felt returning to Nibelheim. Sephiroth was trained to be cold and impassive during missions, but I think he kind of wanted to know what it was like to be 'normal', and to be normal himself. Also, he recognised that people might think it was cold to leave the other soldier behind, and did explain why he made that decision. He didn't just go 'who cares?' and stroll off.

QUOTE (Schala)
I think so too. A Sephiroth before he went bonkers just might have been able to have a relationship with Aeris. His pre-Nibelheim self seems to be simply quiet, focused, and cold. I actually saw him more as a victim to Shinra's foolishness, so who knows?


Yeah, that's how I saw him too. And he was raised to be a brilliant SOLDIER his whole life, probably subjected to tests and Mako Radiation therapy more than any of the others because Hojo saw him as nothing more than an experiment - he was just as much a victim of Shinra as anyone else. If anyone could get through Sephiroth's shell and see more than just this great General of SOLDIER, it would be Aerith. She just has that sort of personality - I bet she would be able to make him smile.

Have you read any of Lady Sanzennine's fics, Schala? Her fabulous writing was what converted me! Most AeriSeph fans recommend Irony of Fate as the best AxS fic, and while it is amazing, I prefer LS's works. (Plus, I don't like Cloud in IoF. :( )

Punk - July 29, 2005 01:43 AM (GMT)
yay ^^;; i think they make a really cute couple
but i prefer cleris =D
i don't understand why "Aeriseph" very well yet
why would you love someone that killed you?

Alan Bates - July 29, 2005 01:46 AM (GMT)
Sephiroth was born to be a badman. He was raised by Hojo and grew up as both a weapon and an expirement. I don't think he has it in him to love anyway. Even before going nuts, he was simply gone.

yin-chan - July 29, 2005 05:08 AM (GMT)
I've always considered the possibilty of aeriseph but never really gave it too much thought. I'm pretty biased - I don't absolutely hate it, but I don't absolutely love it either.

It does seem pretty interesting as a fanon pairing though, I think Aeris would have been able to see the good in Sephiroth and good fanfics are always something to take into account. ^^

Hades' Daughter - July 29, 2005 07:28 AM (GMT)
Let's just say I prefer CloudXSephiroth over SephirothXAerith any day... :lol:

Can you guys imagine what would happen if we were to stick poor Aerith alone in a room with that guy?

*shivers*

slowerthanaverage - July 29, 2005 07:34 AM (GMT)
Aerithx Sephiroth is good :D They will have insanely enchanting children (pun not intended).

Of course logically speaking, their characters and ideologies are far too opposing to be a good couple, but fannonly-speaking, they make a beautiful couple.

Buhon - July 30, 2005 01:27 AM (GMT)
To add my two cents: No offense at all to AerithXSeph fans, but that pairing has always disturbed me. A love affair between characters, in which one brutally slaughters the other, just doesn't sit well with me... go figure, right? :D

~Fury Brand~ - July 30, 2005 09:20 AM (GMT)
The thing with that Buhon is I personally still aren't sure exactly which Sephiroth is was that killed Aerith :blink:

What with all the " It's really Jenova in disguise!" and " It's a clone!" theories who knows what to think :lol: :P

So if it really was Jenova or a clone I can deal with Seph X Aerith since in those cases it really wasn't him that killed her :blush:

I agree with both Aly partly and Madam overall, yes pre Nibel Sephiroth was cold but he was a soldier and in the Shinra army too chances are he was probably brought up not to let his feelings get in the way and as Madam said he did try to explain his actions :blink: Plus I always felt rather sorry for him as he was standing at the top of the stairs in the inn in Nibel, he seemed deep in thought and as if he had a lot on his mind.

Suffice to say I'm with Madam :)

I also like fanons where Ilfana/Gast rescue Sephiroth from Shinra and take him to Icicle Inn with them though :fangirl: And where Hojo doesn't manage to do what he does to Ilfana and Gast and Aerith and Sephiroth live happily with them and grow up as children together :awww:

Anastar - July 30, 2005 01:21 PM (GMT)
I guess you'll like it depending on your ability to see outside of the box. :lol: By that, I mean your ability to view it from a totally fanon perspective where things could be different. If you like to pretend what two characters would be like together outside of their actual roles in the games, then I guess you could like it.

I tend to see what characters are like in game, and I don't go beyond that. From my perspective, Sephiroth killed her brutally. I can't see a man who does that as having any affection for the one he killed, nor can I see Aerith loving someone who killed her. I don't go outside the box, while others do.

QUOTE (Buhon @ Jul 30 2005, 01:27 AM)
To add my two cents:  No offense at all to AerithXSeph fans, but that pairing has always disturbed me.  A love affair between characters, in which one brutally slaughters the other, just doesn't sit well with me...  go figure, right?  :D

That's my reaction to it, too.

Anti-R - July 30, 2005 05:04 PM (GMT)
Not a big fan, either straight and yaoi/yuri, of prospective couples that hurt/kill each other in their original stories. I dunno why, I felt it was against their characterization...

...which is probably why I'll never support Seymour and Yuna, come to think of it...

Alan Bates - July 30, 2005 07:57 PM (GMT)
Oddly enough, Seymor and Yuna actually get amrried during the game. The thing that bugs me about that though, is that NOBODY ever mentions it again after it happens. You'd think something that important mioght come up now and again.

Anastar - July 30, 2005 08:21 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Alan Bates @ Jul 30 2005, 07:57 PM)
Oddly enough, Seymor and Yuna actually get amrried during the game. The thing that bugs me about that though, is that NOBODY ever mentions it again after it happens. You'd think something that important mioght come up now and again.

I think that's because everyone knows that Yuna was forced into it against her will. As a result, everyone sees the marriage as "false". Besides that, everyone knows where Yuna's heart truly is.

Kaldea - July 30, 2005 08:29 PM (GMT)
Personally, I think Aeris is much more mature than to fall for some guy that wants her dead. It is much like some girl falling for her rapist or something. I find it gross.

I react the same way to that pairing as I react to Cloud/Yuffie. Absolutely disgusting.

But for the people who do like it, I don't mind. It's the Squall/Laguna fans that I have issues with. <_<

Oddishness - July 31, 2005 01:24 AM (GMT)
Sephiroth x Aeris has always been pretty creepy to me... I dunno, it just didn't fit. :blink: Plus, the fact that fanfiction.net is absolutely PACKED with Aeriseph fics (there's more of them than anything else- namely, Cleris) just makes me dislike the pairing even more. <_<


I must say, though, I saw (read?) a very touching doujinshi about them (it was from Junk*Garden) and it helped open my mind some. Still don't care too much for the pairing, though.

CG, you've outdone yourself with that new sig!!!! :wub:

Anti-R - July 31, 2005 02:48 AM (GMT)
Oh! I hate Auron x Tidus! there's something wrong about the whole thing...

Kaldea - July 31, 2005 03:10 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Oddishness @ Jul 30 2005, 07:24 PM)
CG, you've outdone yourself with that new sig!!!! :wub:

:lol:

Thanks! Took me like five minutes. Just to show how much AM is my favorite. :lmao:

Schala - July 31, 2005 03:49 AM (GMT)
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Have you read any of Lady Sanzennine's fics, Schala? Her fabulous writing was what converted me! Most AeriSeph fans recommend Irony of Fate as the best AxS fic, and while it is amazing, I prefer LS's works.


I've read LS' stories and they're really really good! 'Dream of Me' had me tingling for hours after I read it. But she never finished it. :cry: Oddly enough, I actually haven't read Irony of Fate! And to think I considered myself such a fan of Aeriseph back then. I'll go read it now! But, I'm a bit worried since it might cause me to go back into a relapse. I was really crazy about that pairing after all...

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I must say, though, I saw (read?) a very touching doujinshi about them (it was from Junk*Garden) and it helped open my mind some. Still don't care too much for the pairing, though.


I liked that one too, except I wish I knew Japanese (that must be the hundredth time...) Too bad there was no way it could ever have happened.

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Aerithx Sephiroth is good. They will have insanely enchanting children (pun not intended).


I completely forgot about that! But by golly, you're right! Of course, I'm a very shallow person when it comes to such things... Anyway, I'm going to leave at this, considering this is a CxA forum. I'm starting to sound dangerously Aeriseph.

Hades' Daughter - July 31, 2005 12:59 PM (GMT)
STA:
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Aerithx Sephiroth is good. They will have insanely enchanting children (pun not intended).


:o

That is...if he doesn't kill her first... :cloud:

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The thing with that Buhon is I personally still aren't sure exactly which Sephiroth is was that killed Aerith


Hrmms...iono. I think there's only one Sephiroth...especially since he shows no sign of remorse for ANY of the terrible things he did. I saw him as THE BAD GUY...not the poor guy who was tricked into doing terrible deeds.

If he's not the bad guy...Cloud owes him an apology... *giggles*

~Fury Brand~ - August 2, 2005 01:24 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Hades'{angelic}daughter @ Jul 31 2005, 12:59 PM)
STA:
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Aerithx Sephiroth is good. They will have insanely enchanting children (pun not intended).


:o

That is...if he doesn't kill her first... :cloud:


Aerith " :wub:" Sephiroth " :o *stabbity" Aerith " :o *whackity with the Umbrella* Sephroth " :o"

Seriously though I agree with STA, I always thought Aerith and Sephroth made a very attractive couple since they are both very attractive characters within themselves and the both have very striking features such as their similar eyes and hair :) Same bangs :lol:

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The thing with that Buhon is I personally still aren't sure exactly which Sephiroth is was that killed Aerith


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Hrmms...iono.  I think there's only one Sephiroth...especially since he shows no sign of remorse for ANY of the terrible things he did.  I saw him as THE BAD GUY...not the poor guy who was tricked into doing terrible deeds."


We can only be sure that the only really terrible thing he really did do was the massacre at Nibel when he went insane. And yes I think he should show remorse for that but then he doesn't exactly seem in his right mind even now :lol:

As for the events in the game's present story line we thought it was Sephiroth that killed Aerith but then at the Northern Crater Cloud says that the real Sephiroth had been there all along. That makes people think wth does he mean ;)

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If he's not the bad guy...Cloud owes him an apology...   *giggles*


Cloud " ... " xD
"I guess you'll like it depending on your ability to see outside of the box. By that, I mean your ability to view it from a totally fanon perspective where things could be different. If you like to pretend what two characters would be like together outside of their actual roles in the games, then I guess you could like it."

That's right Aly :D Got to have a good imagination I think :)

And the Aerith/Sephiroth pairing *is* a totally fanon perspective because the only times they interact ( if that really was him) are when they were opposing each other in the Temple of the Ancients ( Aerith " ... the future is not only yours ...) and the City of the Ancient scenes. And if it wasn't him then they didn't interact in the game at all :lol:

"I tend to see what characters are like in game, and I don't go beyond that. From my perspective, Sephiroth killed her brutally. I can't see a man who does that as having any affection for the one he killed, nor can I see Aerith loving someone who killed her.

I can understand that and I respect your view point. It's quite easy to see how you feel that way. And indeed I might feel the same way myself if I was sure that it was indeed him that killed her :o

"I don't go outside the box, while others do."

... :o But ... but Aly there's LOADs of room out here *tries to take Aly out the box* :P

Anastar - August 2, 2005 02:54 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Anti-R @ Jul 31 2005, 02:48 AM)
Oh! I hate Auron x Tidus! there's something wrong about the whole thing...

I agree... but I've seen some VERY funny AuronxTidus doujinshi covers. :lol:

QUOTE (Fury Brand)
I can understand that and I respect your view point. It's quite easy to see how you feel that way. And indeed I might feel the same way myself if I was sure that it was indeed him that killed her

Okay... I've always been sure it was Sephy who killed her. I don't think that Sephy was controlled by Jenova.

QUOTE (Fury Brand)
QUOTE (Anastar)
"I don't go outside the box, while others do."

... But ... but Aly there's LOADs of room out here *tries to take Aly out the box*

Blech... don't like it out there!!! :lol: :P *clings to my box*

Hades' Daughter - August 3, 2005 07:40 PM (GMT)
Fury Brand:
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Seriously though I agree with STA, I always thought Aerith and Sephroth made a very attractive couple since they are both very attractive characters within themselves and the both have very striking features such as their similar eyes and hair  Same bangs


Actually...that's a reason why I can't see them as being a couple. They have similar features which make them almost seem like family...brothers and sisters or something along that line. :P

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We can only be sure that the only really terrible thing he really did do was the massacre at Nibel when he went insane. And yes I think he should show remorse for that but then he doesn't exactly seem in his right mind even now


I think that IF it wasn't Sephiroth who did all those terrible deeds, including killing Aerith, then there would be signs indicating confusion and remorse. There was no such indication. After he found out he'd been created, I think he simply went mad with rage. I don't believe he's being controlled by anyone. Wouldn't Cloud and company want to help Sephiroth and stop whatever it is that's controlling him IF he's not responsible for all the terrible things he did? I don't believe Cloud would hate or want to destroy an innocent man who's simply being controlled.

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As for the events in the game's present story line we thought it was Sephiroth that killed Aerith but then at the Northern Crater Cloud says that the real Sephiroth had been there all along.


His physical body may have been there all along, but I think he's been everywhere...either spiritually or in the form of a clone perhaps. We have to remember that he's not exactly human.

sephiroth - August 4, 2005 04:46 PM (GMT)
i think that its down to the fact that theyre complete opposites and opposites suposibly attract or summit, and they look similar i guess, and ppl sometimes get confused with what Aeris says at the begining of ff7 when she and cloud are sitting in the park.

BlackWind - August 6, 2005 02:18 AM (GMT)
Sephris is an odd pairing in fanfictions, and just dosn't work in my mind. Really, who would love the person that killed them? I did read one Sephris, and it was ok, but aside from that, I don't really like them much. :ermm:

Xan - August 6, 2005 09:58 AM (GMT)
it's stupid, i know, but i kinda like the aerith/sephiroth pairing :blush: after the cloud/aerith pairing, that is :D i especially love a good cloud/aerith/sephiroth triangle. i dunno why i like it... maybe it's my dark side, but there's just something so seductive about a sephiroth wanting to steal away cloud's light because he's just SO EVIL :devil:

i never read IRONY OF FATE. but i have read LS' and Tshael's works, and they were great. but the BEST has to be LadyZeia's fanfic, ILLUME and CHILDREN OF RAGNAROK:

http://www.fanfiction.net/u/324799/

there, is exactly how i'd picture the relationship between cloud, aerith and sephiroth if it were a "what-if" AU situation. i love the way she potrayed each character, and the story is like wow! the intensity of the love triangle is so strained and she ended it pretty well :) loved the ending!

basically, the story is based after FF7, and what happens to them after that. it gradually then merges in with kingdom hearts world.

my favorite line in ILLUME:

“When this is over, I wanna be somewhere peaceful, like this place -- With you.” -- Cloud

and my favorite line in CHILDREN OF RAGNAROK:

“There was once a woman, who took a misguided warrior and stirred within him human emotions ... because she was passionate, devout, full of life and belief, and -- above all -- did not fear anything, even death ... He never forgot her. I wonder ... Where is that woman, now?” -- Sephiroth

go on, give it a try! don't worry, cloud still gets his lady ;) but just to warn you guys, it has a bit of lemon, but you can choose to skip it. hope you like it!

Ray_Chucks - August 6, 2005 10:10 AM (GMT)
I don't really get Sephris, but then again I don't get CloSeph. If Cloud really loves Aerith, then it would never work out because Seph killed Aerith. And seph killed Aerith meaning Sephris would never work eaither. Unless (I know this was already said) Sephiroth was good in both cases.

Daga15 - August 18, 2005 01:12 PM (GMT)
i like aeris x sephiroth!! and i think if you read some fanfics of them you woyld like too..

some of you are asking who its posible if he killed her??

well, in the fanfics what happens it, that sephiroth is not anymore under jenovas control. what means this? that sephiroth is not evil anymore, its only cold hearted..nothing more. and, only a person like aeris can change his feelings...


read this fanfics and you will understand the pairing:



aeris and sephiroth in love


its an aeris x sephiroth site, read the fanfic of mirror image and the others please, i really like it!! :)

Schala - August 20, 2005 05:54 PM (GMT)
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aeris and sephiroth in love


its an aeris x sephiroth site, read the fanfic of mirror image and the others please, i really like it!!

It took me ages to find that site... It was such agony reading the first chapter of Mirror Image on some fanfic site, but not knowing where to find the subsequent chapters. Thankfully, there's an entire site dedicated to their fanfics. Now it's safely stored in my favourites! The Mirror Image series does make a good point for those with a willing imagination. But even the best of fanfics can't convince the greatest of disbelievers.

Eternity-Knight - August 20, 2005 06:39 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Buhon @ Jul 29 2005, 08:27 PM)
To add my two cents: No offense at all to AerithXSeph fans, but that pairing has always disturbed me. A love affair between characters, in which one brutally slaughters the other, just doesn't sit well with me... go figure, right? :D

Those are my feelings as well.

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I tend to see what characters are like in game, and I don't go beyond that. From my perspective, Sephiroth killed her brutally. I can't see a man who does that as having any affection for the one he killed, nor can I see Aerith loving someone who killed her. I don't go outside the box, while others do.


I'm exactly the same way Anastar.

Oddishness - August 23, 2005 10:18 PM (GMT)
Someone mentioned "Illume"... I must say, though no fan of Sephris, I loved that fanfiction. :blush:

Schala - August 24, 2005 02:34 AM (GMT)
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never read IRONY OF FATE. but i have read LS' and Tshael's works, and they were great. but the BEST has to be LadyZeia's fanfic, ILLUME and CHILDREN OF RAGNAROK:

http://www.fanfiction.net/u/324799/


I got to the profile page, but it seems that LadyZeia has removed her stories. :( Anyone know another place where I can find Illume? After managing to retrieve chapter 1, I really want to read the rest!

Edit: Nevermind. I found it, though I'm having a very hard time piecing it together. Thank goodness for the Google's cache function.

Xan - August 24, 2005 03:12 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Schala @ Aug 24 2005, 02:34 AM)
I got to the profile page, but it seems that LadyZeia has removed her stories. :( Anyone know another place where I can find Illume? After managing to retrieve chapter 1, I really want to read the rest!

Edit: Nevermind. I found it, though I'm having a very hard time piecing it together. Thank goodness for the Google's cache function.

gosh! i was shocked she removed it :( it's such a great story and she had so many reviews for it...

i saved both fanfics in my HD and even formatted it using MS Word, but i dont know how to share it... if you want it i guess i can try emailing it to you, schala

i want ppl to see how great this story is, 'cause it's still my all-time favorites. damn it! why'd she haf to remove it :ermm:

Schala - August 24, 2005 07:59 PM (GMT)
It's okay, Xan, I still managed to get it. :D But could you email the sequel to me, please? The second one is tricky to find. All I got was the first chapter... Please!

Zeia just got a change of religion (as stated in her website) and finds what she wrote before shocking.

It's a great story, very well written. It's really much more of a Cloud X Aeris fic though; a realistic portrayal of Sephiroth instead of a softened sweetheart that many Sephris fics tend to make him out to be.

Xan - August 25, 2005 03:03 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Schala @ Aug 24 2005, 07:59 PM)
It's okay, Xan, I still managed to get it. :D But could you email the sequel to me, please? The second one is tricky to find. All I got was the first chapter... Please!

Zeia just got a change of religion (as stated in her website) and finds what she wrote before shocking.

It's a great story, very well written. It's really much more of a Cloud X Aeris fic though; a realistic portrayal of Sephiroth instead of a softened sweetheart that many Sephris fics tend to make him out to be.

so she's (ladyzeia) seen the "light" huh? :ermm: it's either a good thing or a bad thing...

so you've read the first part huh? pretty good wasn't it? i TOTALLY agree with you when you said, "a realistic portrayal of Sephiroth instead of a softened sweetheart that many Sephris fics tend to make him out to be." i'm just glad it ended that way...

so! the second part... how do i send this to you? it's set after the KH timeline btw, and though it doesn't center much on cloud-aerith-sephiroth, there are still some beautiful significant moments around them :D

i can't seem to find your email on your profile (or i don't know how to find it <_< ) but drop me an email at xanaphea@yahoo.com and ill send it over to you by attachment k? just glad i could help... :D

Oddishness - August 26, 2005 01:34 AM (GMT)
Hmmm... I'm probably gonna get it from you, too, Xan. Thanks! :gift:




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