Well I must first apoligize if this topic has already been posted and talked about to death, you must excuse me for I am a newer member, but I was interested in people's opinions.

If you had to choose one, which would you choose for the ending to AC?

Would you rather there be a clear indication of who Cloud ends up with, Tifa or Aeris, even if that means the possibility of Aeris not being the one he chooses, or would you rather it stay the way it is, totally up to interpretation?

Personally I am a little torn, because both fandoms are pretty big, but it would feel so KICK ASS to put some clotis in their place if Aeris and Cloud were to 'end up' together in the end. At the same time, if the ending were to end up a Cloud and Tifa pairing...I think I would seriously be crushed....

I guess I would just much rather, if I had to choose, have it open to interpretation. The thought of a Cloud/Tifa ending seriously would depress me too much ;_;

I'd love to keep it the way it is. Most likely going to be like that too, so I'm not too worried about Cloud ending up all Squallish. :lmao:

I just think that this whole stupid war will go on even after Square tells people if there is a cannon couple. I just hope Cloud ends up happy. That's all I really want out of AC.

yup as long as cloud is happy
But if they do some thing like TXC-ish then they totaly crossed the line <_<

I don't really mind, as long as it's plausible and Cloud is happy. I'd be disappointed at a CloTi ending, but it wouldn't change my opinion of Cloud x Aerith, and I'd still believe they had something special. :cleris:

I would hate a CloTi ending. It would totally contradict my interpretation of the game, so it would basically ruin the game for me. My understanding of the game's ending was that Cloud would keep on searching for Aerith because he loved her. For Cloud to give up that search and suddenly turn to Tifa despite his love for Aerith would be implausible regardless of how they did it - the story's meaning would essentially have to be changed, and I wouldn't like that.

I'd rather see Cloud end up with Aerith, of course, but I think it's more likely that the movie will be left open to interpretation at the end. Square is very aware that there are different interpretations of the game and different interpretations of who Cloud loved. It doesn't stop with Cloud loving Aerith or Tifa - there's also people who think that Cloud loved Zack, Barret, Yuffie, Sephiroth, or no one.

No matter who Square paired Cloud up with, it would contradict too many interpretations of the game. Nomura already stated in one interview that the AC team had decided that the movie should not contradict the interpretation of the game held by different players. The only way they can do that is to leave the movie up to interpretation.

Persinaly,I don't see how he would end up with Tifa,so I have to say either Cloud dies and be with her,or something akong the lines of That.

Personally...I think it'd be really nice to have a clear indication. I really don't like the idea of watching a movie based on fanservice. I understand that they're a business looking to make the most money they can, but I think that true fans will stay fans no matter the outcome of the LT in that one game alone. If VII ends up Cloti, I know I'll still continue to support Square in the future, no matter how upsetting AC is. Ignore the fans, I say...because AC should be about Cloud, not about us.

However, I'd like to say that another reason why I want a clear indication is because I have faith in Square. IF they wanted to make the LT clear, I'm pretty positive that they would make it Cleris. The individual interpretations of the game aside, Square has been leading some of us on for years, ever since the beginning with commercials and AU games. I can totally understand Cleris fans getting angry IF AC suddenly ends Cloti. What I won't understand though, is Cloti fans getting angry IF AC ends up Cleris. They've already been warned SEVERAL times with "hints" through Amano artwork and AU games like KH, Tactics, and Itadaki Street. :P

The above just makes me think that when Square indicated that they were worried about fans getting upset over a conclusive ending in AC, they were worried about non-Cleris fans... :D

Anastar:

True, Aly. Clotis who talk like they've already seen the movie and KNOW Cloud will end up with Tifa because she's not dead should really take that into consideration.

Hades'{angelic}daughter, I totally agree with that. SE has never shown that it's afraid of "offending" fans. (Hence, they determined Aerith would stay dead.) So I don't see why they would be afraid of offending a few of the more rabid CloTi fans. After all, if you truly love FFVII, then it shouldn't matter who wins the LT. A lot of the tamer CloTis are willing to admit that Cloud loves Aerith to some degree, so if he openly admits to loving her, I'm sure they'll accept it. The rabid ones aren't worth worrying about, since they're the minority. :)

I want a conclusion to it, because it's one of the large loose ends of Cloud's story. (One of the last ones, actually.) So, if they're going to conclude Cloud's story and move to Vincent's, then I'd like to see Cloud happy and with the girl he truly loves. It makes the most sense that it would be Aerith, seeing how Cloud is not happy in AC at all, and seeing that there have been so many hints for them.

I won't freak out of it's CloTi, because I can see logic in their arguments, but I think it's most logical that Cloud will choose to love Aerith in his heart for the rest of his days and continue to protect the Planet she loved enough to sacrifice herself for, or that he'll die and be reunited with her after fighting to protect her Planet once again. Both ideas are romantic and touching, for me, and I would like to see something like that in the film. CloTi is the easy way out for SE, and I don't ever want to see them taking the "easy" way out just for fan service.

Besides, if it's CloTi, then the hand reaching scene makes absolutely zero sense! I don't think SE would disregard the game THAT completely, don't you guys think?

I just don't see why,if they do make a Claerith ending,wich I hope they do,why they wouldn't make it were he sees her both in the spritiual plain,and the physical.
I meen,if the physical does not exists,but the spiritual love does,its incomplete,but if they have physical love,but no spritual love,thats incomplete.

I totally agree with you HAD. I wish they would just stick to their guns and create AC with their true intentions in mind. But, unfortunately, that isn't likely to happen. :sad: But, that doesn't keep me from hoping they will!

It'd break my heart if Tifa ends up with Cloud in the end, as his journey of finding the true woman he loves will go to waste. If ever that happens though, one thing's for sure - she cannot fill the void left by Aeris in Cloud's heart. Never.

Thats true.You would probably like my FF7 music video I'm making then.

As long as the ending is plausible and Cloud is happy, I'd most likely be happy. Thus, I'd probably want a clearly defined ending. :)

And when your happy,I'm happy. :P


But seriously,les just wait to see what happens,as long as Aerith and Cloud happy,wherever each one is at the time,if there happy,I am.

:blink:

O-kay then.

I'd like it to be left open-ended simply because that way neither side gets to completely crush the other. That'll just be unfair. :angel: Seriously though, if Aeris is happy, then so am I. The only thing I'll hate is AC making her out to be a great self-sacrificing martyr only there to guide the others, because to me, Aeris will always be a woman who was as human as everyone else, not a saint who can do no wrong. I just can't stand the whole 'guardian spirit' thing when the 'guardian spirit' never gets the one she loves... And has to see him marry someone else!

Oh, and I'll also dislike it if Cloud married Tifa, leaving his memories of Aeris in the past as he embraces his future. But that's an unCloud-like thing to do... I'm just afraid he's going take Aeris' advice about moving forward too seriously... :unsure:

At least if he does,I'll figure out a way to cheer you up.

Honestly, I'm not as opposed to the Cloti pairing as I used to be. If Square makes Cloud end up with Tifa in a valid believable way and still have him remember Aerith, then I am capable of accepting that. The main thing I don't like about Cloti is how unhealthy Tifa's dependence on Cloud can get, and how he is sometimes stifled by her. But if this 'smothering' part of their relationship changes in AC, then I don't see how they'd make a bad couple. The only bad thing that would come out of it is the gloating of rabid Clotis that they were 'right all along'
BUT even if Square makes a valid Cloti ending, I would still love Cleris and believe that Cloud loved her in FF7 and still continues to keep her in his heart even if he has 'moved on'.
That's not to say, though, that I wouldn't be dancing the conga if the ending turns out to be Cleris. :lol:

Thanks, MOA! But I'm afraid I'll be quite inconsolable and do crazy things like throwing out my copy of Advent Children and then going back to retrieve it. Yes, I'll probably be like :cry: for a full day, along with all the other Cleris who can't bear to see Cloud end up with anyone else other than Aeris!

Right you are, Kusari Yarou!

I'll pop in my DDR disc and dance under Nonstop mode!

It really doesn't matter much to me if he ends up with Tifa, cause it does seem pretty logical in a sense.
Of course, I still want him to die and end up with Aeris :cleris: but to me the most frustrating thing is if SE doesn't resolve the friggin' LTD and leaves everything still as open to interpretation as it left FF7 - I mean, that would really drive me nuts. I want a clear answer - Aeris or Tifa, Cloud choose now!!!!! >__<

But of course, the latter is probably what SE will end up doing in order not to 'upset the fans' T__T

yin-chan, I agree. The LT debate is really frustrating. A resolution to it would be splendid. :) As long as Cloud makes an honest choice and doesn't waver, I'll be happy.

I don't think SE is going to take the easy route. Since they've never cared about disappointing fans, I think we will see our Clerith ending in some way. I don't see how they could make a really believable CloTi ending anyway, since there's this two-year gap when, if they were ever to be a couple, they would have been. So I think a Clerith ending is definitely on the way. Since the fan bases are roughly equivalent, I think SE is just going to write the story and say "whatever" to the fan bases. :)

After all, if you love FFVII, you'll love it no matter what, even if Cloud chooses the girl you thought he didn't love. :) But, with sixty minutes of footage that we haven't seen yet, many Clerith scenes are possible. After all, why would they show us the best footage before the right time? :)

Lol, Kusari, I'm with you on this one. That would really suck if they rubbed it in our faces. So let's hope that, whatever the outcome, we're all kind to each other. (But we're definitely going to have the conga line. :P)

CONGA! :woot:

*joins in the conga line*

:woot:

I hope we're not spamming lol

I woulnd't like an ending with cloud with tifa it would be very dumb and boring and the game proved he loved aerith so i think that they will show that he loved aeris in the movie PS-has anyone seen Aerith's face yet she's so pretty on the cellphone

Only the cellphone pic, sadly... :( I wanna shee AC Aeris!! :sad:

Anyway, I REALLY don't wanna see Cloud alive... DIE CLOUD, DIIIEE!! xD

yin-chan:

Not to me, says SA. :no:

SJ:

:o

NEVER!!!!!!

*waves CLOUD FANGIRL banner* :D

Cloud must NOT die. He doesn't deserve death. That's just the easy way out anyway. Besides, he has to live on, protecting the planet Aerith sacrificed her life for. That's how special she is to him!!!! :cleris:
He's going to LIVE. He's going to stay SINGLE, while keeping Aerith's spirit with him ALWAYS. He's going to literally just walk away from Tifa and friends at the end of the movie...indicating that there's nothing going on between the two of them other than FRIENDSHIP. It's going to once again, strongly hint Cleris. Clotis will be allowed to continue to dream that Cloud will SOMEDAY get with Tifa. :P
Thus, everyone will be slightly happy...

IF Square doesn't outright make AC Cleris, they better (at least) do it this way! *shakes an angry fist*

Wingless:

Agreed. I think the only way Square can make it believable is IF they spend a great chunk of the movie explaining how Cloud suddenly realizes he loves Tifa. However...given the length of the movie, I doubt that's going to happen.

*writes up a petition about not wanting to see fanservice crap from SE*

That I can see. Cloud realizing that he can't go on kicking himself forever. He has to live for himself.

Sorry, Alan Bates. I was in the middle of editing my post, so you didn't exactly quote me... :blush:

I realized I missed a few important pointers...

I agree with you though. This is about Cloud fighting on, realizing that Aerith's death doesn't mean she's lost to him, and winning at the end of it all. He's doing all this for himself as well as for the planet, the children, all his friends, and the girl he loves. :fangirl:

ehhh.... close enough, I guess.

:huggle: This is why I wubs u so, will you marry me? (I know I married ya twice but this is the other way round :P)

Erm..you know Kadaj could die and end up with Aerith (Cloti logic = you either both live or both die) and I'll be a happy fangirl! *Squeeee*

Ok please forgive me for bringing up this pairing again lol :puke:

Yes! I'm sure Cloud is fighting because of Aerith's memory. Have you seen the trailers? He says he wants to try and be forgiven, but only because he meets Aerith and finds strength from her again!

Hurray, my first real post! :)

Eh..Kadaj is gorgeous but he belongs to the fangirls and Aerith belongs to Cloud! :P

STA:

Yes, my wub...let us, for the third time, remarry! :woot:

Tsk tsk...you know very well that Kadaj already belongs to you, and in case you're thinking about SephEris...that incredibly sexay creep happens to belong to me. :P

This really sucks, but I guess the only logical one left for Aerith is Cloud then. What a shame, eh? :gasps in outrage:

I'd like to see the source on that quote by Nomura about not contradicting various interpretations, because how or if he made that statement is the rosetta stone for figuring this whole "Will they resolve the LTD" thing out. And personally, if I'm going to be disapointed by an inconclusive ending, I'd like to know in advance and brace myself for it.

On another note, I agree 100% with Hades' Daughter's post, and I am suprised that there aren't more people who do (mabye it was just so well written that they didn't see the need to back it up). Cleris is clearly the way they've been leaning all along, so this lack of LTD resolution clearly favors Clotis. If I had any say in whether or not they resolve the LTD, I would be more than willing to accept the slim chances of a Cloti ending by letting them play it out to the end. That's what an ending is, sheesh. Maybe I wouldn't be so demanding in regards to this particular aspect if they weren't devoting the rest of the compilation to Vincent and prequels. If they want to end Cloud's story (and by all means, I wish they would), then they have to, as Hade's Daughter put it, answer the last lingering question. I mean, they have a whole movie to answer questions about FF7, and they'll only this one question left thing to be answered by the time the prologue is done. To leave it unanswered would be stupid. I'd rather have a Cloti ending than an inconclusive ending, just so this torment can end. Sure it would suck, but at least we wouldn't have to spend sleepless nights wondering what beautiful ending we were meant to see...

And plus, we all know that if the AC team had no pressure on them (from the fans, the businessmen, and the guy calling himself Mr. X who slips them letters assembled from magazine clippings), they'd do a Cleris ending...search your feelings, you know it be true! lol :(

I no longer have the exact quote, but I believe it was in Playstation magazine (Japanese version) last year in a page long interview with Nomura. It was translated for us at AC.net.

At any rate, Nomura basically said that there's as many different interpretations of FFVII as there are gamers. As a result, the AC team had decided not to contradict the interpretation of the game held by different gamers.

How does leaning in the way of Cleris all along favor the Cloti's? :unsure: If anything, it would seem to favor Cleris to me.

And the way gamers view the ending is completely up to interpretation. I never thought that Cloud would get together with Tifa when I played the game, so providing a clear ending does not necessarily point to a Cloti ending.

Well, Nomura said this in June 2004 in an interview with GanGan:

"It’s not a story that will reveal the mysteries present in the game, but the thing is, that although we concluded FFVII back then, I think that there probably are among the players, those for whom there are still unclear things remaining about the character of Cloud who’s role they assumed. Why is Cloud, who is now living by himself in solitude, in fact alone? Aside from this, there must surely be parts that trouble the minds of people who played FFVII… Pertaining to that, I think that in more ways than one, Cloud will settle things this time."

Then, later that same month, Kitase said this in an interview with PlayStation magazine:

"Cloud and Tifa, and the recently revealed "someone" [Aerith]. While there are a lot of action scenes, it will also depict the delicate relationship of these three."

And, while I don't have a link to that Nomura interview, I remember him saying that he was asked to stop before he contradicted the interpretations of the fans. :ermm:

We should ask Clorith or Vilaeth at AC.net. They prolly have it. The funniest thing is that he said that they had decided not to contradict the interpretation of different gamers, but they already have. Whether or not Humanity was killed off by Holy at the end of FFVII was unknown and was debated for years. There were quite a few gamers out there who believed that Humanity was killed off.

I've heard people say that perhaps thats because of the short FMV after the end credits where 500 years later Red and his cubs are running and sees the destroyed Midgar.

Gaahhh if only he wasn't asked to stop!! Then the LTD might have been solved!!! *is killed by curiousity*