It occured to me that Square-Enix follows a pattern with Cloud x Aeris. In FFVII there was the hand reach scene at the end, which was abruptly cut off. In KH they meet in Hollow Bastion, and that was also abruptly cut off.

Do you think Advent Children will be the answer to all these cut-off scenes? They always seem like they're just about to connect. :(

HMMm that seems rather intreasting. Maybe I know the ending was very cliffhangerd so maybe it all connects because the trailers are also cliffhangerd.

Interesting idea Velvy!

Hmm..it's also kind of like their relationship. They were almost there, but were cut off suddenly from one another. :(

Either that, or I'm looking way too deeply into it. :lol:

Fingers crossed that it does mean something significant!!! *crosses fingers*

Oh goodness, I don't think my heart can take another cliffie! :no: I hope that since AC is Cloud's story, they conclude it nicely. No more sleepness nights, please! If I wail loud enough, will Nomura and Kitase hear me? :D

Perhaps if we wail TOGETHER

The cliffhangers make the auidence wanting more so thats why they put them in. Square wanted their vamers and views to see what was going to happen next, thats why they did it. But hopefully the cliffie with Cloud and Aeris will be answered in Advent Childern.

I could forgive cliffhangers regarding Kadaj et. al. except for the CloudxAerith thing. The conflict MUST BE RESOLVED right then and there! :devil:

The cliffhangers are exactly what leaves the love triangle unresolved. If it had been shown that Cloud and Aerith embraced and kissed after meeting in Hollow Bastion, for example, there wouldn't be any argument over whether Aerith was the one Cloud was searching for in KH. If Cloud had been able to take Aerith's hand in FFVII, leading to an embrace and a kiss between them, there wouldn't be any debate over Cloud's love interest. It's precisely because Square left these moments as cliffhangers that the debate over his love interest goes on.

I'm hoping that Cloud will meet Aerith in AC so that these cliffhangers are resolved... but there could just as easily be another cliffhanger because Square loves to torture us! :lol:

but Anastar, if there is another Cliffhanger that would mean they would have to make another game/movie and then it would be an ongoing chase to see what happens and eventually every fan will eaither stop or die. So I like Sefie's and Cloriths Idea! Lets Wail!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *wails Loudly*

no more cliffhangers please!! my heart wouldn't be able to handle it!!
If AC ended in another cliffhanger i would just suffer from stroke and die!
JUST ~ GET ~ IT ~ OVER ~ WITH~!!!!!!!
Kyaaahhhh!!! *wails loudly along with sefie and aerith's man*

Die of stroke?! I would die of pain and misery!!!

I might start burning buildings if it is still left unresolved. <_<'

I'd hate it, too, but I really think there will be another cliffhanger.

Nomura has already said that the AC team had decided not to contradict any gamer's interpretation of the game. Resolving the love triangle would contradict many people's idea of the game, no matter who they pair Cloud up with.

Besides Cleris and Cloti fans, there's people out there who believe that Cloud loved Zack, Yuffie, Sephiroth, Barret, and no one. If they put Cloud with Aerith, they'd be contradicting fans of AerithxZack, too. No matter who they pair Cloud up with, many fans will be unhappy. The only way not to contradict any gamer's interpretation of the game is to leave it unresolved, so I expect that's what will happen.

I don't like it, but that's what I'm expecting. :(

But they're not going to contradict any interpretation? How can they make a sequel without contradicting any interpretation? Did they mean storywise or in terms of romantic relationship or what?

Seems to me that by making Cloud leaving behind all things/people to live in isolation is already contradicting with some of the previous cloti interpretations that the ending hinted at Cloud getting over Aerith and getting on with Tifa. Aww comon SE you can do it!

lol Kidding :P

Exactly

And isn't it contradicting other fans by not having Cloud searching for Aeris? Loving her? It's just like political correctness, you can't please EVERYBODY!

you know I just re beat the game, and I was thinking about the ending. You know, if Cloud and Aeris reached hands and they meet in Ac that has some kinda connection. The ending says they are in love if you read between the lines and the trailers hint at it. So Condradicting is kinda of in the eye of the beholder since it kinda hints that Cloud and Aerith are in love. actually it doesn't hint, it says it bold face.

If Square ends AC with a cliffhanger, I will be pissed. They don't want to take sides? That's absurd. Square ought to take a moment and think about what the word "ending" means. There can only be one outcome in an ending, just as a Chess match isn't over until there are no more moves left. What they plan on doing is omitting the outcome becuase they cannot accept the weight of the responsibilty. The game made the same blunder by failing to provide closure, drawing fire from critics all over the gaming world. Have they learned nothing from that? AC is a once in a lifetime chance to redeem the "ending" of the game and provide a real ending, and now they're going to screw it up willingly...I can't accept that.

However, it did become one of the most popular games of all time despite it right? Also it kept us talking about still today. I do think that it'd be great to have something more final this time though, pun not intended. I don't think they need redemption, but I do think they should end the story without a lot of loose ties. I just hope it all comes together the way I'm hoping.

Good point, STA. :P S-E has already contradicted the CloTi belief that Cloud and Tifa were in love and Cloud chose to be with Tifa at the end of FFVII. According to the CloTis, Cloud and Tifa were snuggling up with each other in the final FMV, talking about their dead friend, and planning to go make babies together. :rolleyes: That has been proven wrong, based on what we have seen of AC so far. :devil:

Cloud has been alone all this time. If Cloud and Tifa had shared an intimate moment beneath the Highwind, then why isn't he with her? That would be very callous of him to use Tifa like that. So, as far as I am concerned, the Highwind scene has also been proven wrong.

I am sure CloTis interpret things differently, but I am looking at it from a logical perspective. There is nothing remotely CloTi in what I have seen of AC so far. So, it looks to me as if CloTi has already been contradicted. But, like Anastar said, I don't think they will have anything conclusive for either pairing at the end. I can still wish, though. :blush:

I agree with you there Anastar.

For Pete's sake, Star Wars yielded seperate LukexLeia and HanxLeia interpretations, but the world didn't errupt into flames when HanxLeia was made canon in The Empire Strikes Back. And this was without the brother/sister justification! They have to end it now, unless they plan on a sequel (and they shouldn't, becuase we've waited 8 years and even tolerated The Spirits Within for our payoff...not to mention the pain of thinking that KH was Square's final answer for Cleris supporters (Cartoon All Stars to the Rescue had more artistic integrity, for heaven's sake!)

On the other hand, perhaps Square is saying they won't resolve the LTD just to catch us off guard when they throw Cloud and Aerith smooching at us. I can dream, can't I? :(

Or... We can all just accept the fact that Cloud may end up single. I don't see how everyone can just say that Cloud HAS to end up with someone. I am quite sick of people assuming that he NEEDS to be in a relationship. There is a such thing as moving on with one's life alone and still finding happiness.

I completely agree, Jenova. I don't see why an ending to FFVII and closure to Cloud's story must include a resolution of the Love Triangle. FFVII wasn't primarily about the Love Triangle, and it isn't necessary for Cloud to be in love with anyone to find happiness.

Many fans are curious about the Love Triangle and want to see a resolution of it. But the creators are probably looking at it in terms of "what would Cloud want"? Is a love relationship necessary for Cloud? I don't think so.

There may have been criticism about the ending of FFVII not providing definite closure at the time that it was released, but I know many people who love the game's ending because it's open to interpretation. In fact, I heard a number of people complaining that AC may provide definite answers that may contradict the interpretation of different players. I heard many people say they wanted it left open to interpretation.

In some respects, I have to agree with that. I would love a definite answer to the Love Triangle, but I would greatly prefer to have my interpretation of the Love Triangle left as a possible interpretation of the story than to have it canonized that Cloud's love interest in FFVII was actually Tifa. To me, an inconclusive ending would be far better than a definite Cloti ending. A definite Cloti ending would be very unfair to Cleris people, and a definite Cleris ending would be very unfair to Cloti's. It'd be much better for SE to leave it inconclusive, in my opinion.

I would be ok with Cloud being single. But I will admit I'd rather him be with Aerith. I'd be very upset if it's Cloti because it just doesn't make sense to me. Even if they gave a legitimate reason, I still don't think their personalities work well together romantically. I will try to be ok with it if it goes that way, but it just doesn't seem right. I could see him alone much better than with Tifa, nothing against Tifa.

If the movie starts with Cloud being alone, and then ends with him being alone, the whole thing would seem like a pointless excersise. Then again, that might be better than Square trying to do a neutral ending by having him raising the kids with Tifa, because the family imagery alone would definately swing Cloti no matter how much they understate it.

I don't see this "family" idea happening. I have never once thought Cloud was apart of some stupid family with Tifa, Denzel and Marlene. AC is about ACTION, not a Full House rerun. And FFVII was all about the story BEHIND the poorly done love triangle. If you think that Cloud not ending up with a girl is a pointless exercise regardless of any ACTUAL story, I feel sorry for you.

I wouldn't like him ending alone either, if they're not resolving the LT, not resolving... anything else. What's the point of making AC if they're not going to resolve anything?

I don't think him ending alone would be pointless, but, that would be from my point of view a very bad ending. He needs to be healed, the only one who can do it is Aerith, that's been shown so many times, in so many different ways.

Hey, I just think that since the movie is about Cloud overcoming depression, he shouldn't be alone at the end. I'm not saying he needs a girl, I'm just saying that he shouldn't become a hermit. I guess you meant single as in a romantic relationship, so I suppose there's no point in me saying that.

Ok here is the thing, Cloud doesn't need to be with anyone to make this movie worthwhile. This isn't a movie about him partnering up with anyone! It is about him dealing with yet another crisis that is coming upon the earth. He is a Hero through and through, and even if he does end up like a "hermit" at the end, it shouldn't matter. There are far more pessing questions that can be answered besides who he really loves. There is a new threat in this world and guess what? Cloud is stepping up to fight the good fight and find answers for HIMSELF, not about who he should be with. If we find out Cloud loves Aeris or Tifa, it shouldn't be the focal point of the story, no matter how many fanboys and girls of either pairing feel.

Marry me now. I demand it.


I hate how people think FFVII is nothing but a teen classroom consisting of only gossip about who loves who. The poor storyline... More misunderstood than an angsty teen...

The "new threat to the planet" was created for the sake of the movie and is guarunteed to be resolved. The LTD disparity has been around for 8 years and is not guarunteed to be resolved. Is it any mystery why people are more anxious in regard to the latter?

Maybe it hasn't been resolved because...

1) Resolving it would disappoint certain fanbases no matter the resolution.
2) It would risk Cloud disregarding the character he has built in previous games.
3) Maybe it just isn't important enough?

FFVII was about Life. Not Love. And 90% of the FFVII lovers I know don't care about the love triangle. People who do are just a lot louder. <_<

Well of course this new threat was created for the movie and I sure as hell hope it is resovled! That would be a shitty "To be continued..." As for the debate on the love triangle... it shouldn't matter. There is a reason that Squaresoft put in the begining of the game who you get to choose who Cloud goes up to the gondola with. Ever think that Squaresoft wanted you to come up with your own opinion about that? It is open-ended! It is suppose to make you guess, make you come up with your own thoughts of what Cloud should do. It is a teaser in the game basically and should never take center stage. But this is just my opinion.

This is why I like the Legend of Zelda series. None of those games has a major focus on a particular romance Link has. He is simple the "Hero of Time"... Lucky Link.

A cliffhanger would be okay, I guess. There's always Dirge of Cerberus. :D But I would prefer if there was a end to the triangle, just to set my mind at ease.

Personally, I think that the LT is very important. Why? Cuz I LIKE it. You two are making it sound like folks who like the romance are just ignorant and simple, but that's not true. I wanna know who Cloud loved, is that so wrong? I want it to be resolved darnit! I realize the plot is very important too, yes yes, threat to the planet, mm-hmm, indeed. That AND the LT can be resolved in the same movie
(Sorry if this was a bit...erm...strange...when I'm sick I have a really difficult time expressing my thoughts)

That's fine! The only problem I have is with people who don't care about the main story. I have no problem with people liking the love triangle. I am just sick of those who think that is ALL that FFVII was about.

Something occured to me. Now don't get me worng, I'm not questioning your right to be here, but if you guys consider emphasis on Cloud's personal relationships to be distatsteful then what are you doing in a forum based on the question, and I quote: "What do you hope happens between Cloud and Aerith in AC?" Isn't it kind of a lost cause to lecture people here on the unimportance of the relationship aspect? If you like debating things, I guess that's none of my business, but talking down to people by telling them "I feel sorry for you" etc for simply excersising the credo of the forum is something along the lines of trolling, if I understand the term correctly.

Nothing wrong with a good debate right? :D

Hey, I like discussing Cloud's relationship too. I have my own thoughts on who he should end up with and so on and so forth but when people say that it should be resolved in AC, then that kinda upsets me. The purpose of the movie shouldn't be to resolve the relationship. And it is more than fine if you love talking about who cloud should be with, I am more than aware that I am on a Cloud and Aeris forum. I just dislike how the relationship between Cloud and "Insert random name here" is overshadowed by the actual story and furture story of AC.