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Title: Did Cloud And Aeris Ever Make Love?
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EnglishRose - June 10, 2005 07:01 PM (GMT)
To be honest, I don't think Cloud and Aeris ever "did it" because:

1. They never showed it in the game (I know it's not a good reason)
2. It would take all the innocence out of the relationship

To be honest, Cloud and Aeris never ESTABLISHED the relationship, even though they felt it, they both loved each other and Aeris was the one who got the closest to saying "I love you." I have just read a subject on this forum about Aeris's words: "I want to meet you" and that it could mean a romantic and/or sexual realtionship. I sincerely hope that they never did, because sex is a very delicate matter, and Cloud was sometimes tense around her at times. :cloud: :aeris:

Think about it, when you were young, and you first learnt about how mummy and daddy made you, did you feel innocent anymore? Your life changed. My life certainly did! (and I am actually against sex before marriage, so this is my opinion--- save it for someone you love) :cleris:


Please don't take any offence, I mean nothing by this, I just want you to hear my opinion! :)


Cloudsgirl - June 12, 2005 01:15 AM (GMT)
No honey, they didn't. :ermm: Their relationship didn't even progress to a kiss, so something as extreme as that didn't take place in VII. However, people like to say that Sora from Kingdom Hearts is their child, but this has no basis in fact. But hey, here's to imagination. :D

Seii Monogatari - June 12, 2005 05:03 AM (GMT)
I don't think most people believe they had sex. :ermm: There was a topic about it's relevance, but I don't know of anyone who actually thinks they did. ( aside from doujinshi and fanfics. >_< )

Kaldea - June 12, 2005 08:01 AM (GMT)
Well if you look at FFVII in a cloti point of view, Cloud had every girl that was in that game in his bed. So sure! Why not!

:rolleyes:

EnglishRose - June 12, 2005 09:30 AM (GMT)
Ok! XD

Seii Monogatari - June 12, 2005 10:29 AM (GMT)
...

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... Ok ... :ermm:

Anastar - June 12, 2005 12:45 PM (GMT)
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I have just read a subject on this forum about Aeris's words: "I want to meet you" and that it could mean a romantic and/or sexual realtionship.

The point being made was that it's just as possible that it happened between Cloud and Aerith after their Date or in Costa del Sol as it is to think it happened under the Highwind.

The other point in that thread is that Aerith wasn't saying, "I want to meet... you" because she wanted to get to know the real Cloud. The Cloti's like to believe that because they think that Cloud was Zack in Disk One. However, "I want to meet... you" can also mean that Aerith wanted a romantic and/or sexual relationship with Cloud. In that context, Aerith actually meant, "I want to be your sweetheart".

yin-chan - June 12, 2005 12:51 PM (GMT)
hmm....if "I want to meet you" can be a sexual meaning....then does that not mean there MAY have been a TINY possibility Cloud and Aeris made love after their date in the Gold Saucer???

Unless something else happened during that time...I can't remember too well.. :P

It's a very very tiny possibility...but it is a possibility...since the Clotis keep going on about "Cloud & Tifa mAdE HAWWTTT sEx uNd3r tEh HiGhW1nD like Y3A!!!!" :whistle:

Anastar - June 12, 2005 01:04 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (yin-chan @ Jun 12 2005, 12:51 PM)
hmm....if "I want to meet you" can be a sexual meaning....then does that not mean there MAY have been a TINY possibility Cloud and Aeris made love after their date in the Gold Saucer???

I guess people don't get it. I'm not saying that, "I want to meet ... you" means that Aerith's ready to jump his bones on the gondola. :lol:

I'm saying that I think it can also mean that Aerith is suggesting a romantic relationship with Cloud, and that romantic relationships can involve sex.

QUOTE (yin-chan)
Unless something else happened during that time...I can't remember too well..

Cait Sith swiped the Keystone after their Date. But what happened after Aerith says, "I want to meet... you" and the screen fades out to fireworks? There was plenty of time for a kiss to happen between them. What happened after they returned to the Ghost Hotel? All we saw was Cloud standing by the window in his room the next morning, so how do we know what happened?

If it was possible for cuddling, kissing, and/or sex to happen between Cloud and Tifa under the Highwind, then it was also possible for it to happen between Cloud and Aerith after their Date.

Kusari Yarou - June 12, 2005 06:30 PM (GMT)
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If it was possible for cuddling, kissing, and/or sex to happen between Cloud and Tifa under the Highwind, then it was also possible for it to happen between Cloud and Aerith after their Date.

I agree! I think it's even more possible that Cloud and Aerith made love after their date. True, there's nothing solid to prove it but there's nothing to negate it either. But as for the bangin' under the Highwind theory, there's oodles of proof that it didn't happen.
Now, I'm not waving banners around that says "Cloud and Aerith DID IT!". I don't even like the idea of them doing it after their date. I'm just saying that if you're a fanfic writer/doujinshi artist with lots of imagination, then there still is the possibility ;)

Anastar - June 12, 2005 08:10 PM (GMT)
Exactly.... if people can say that cuddling, kissing, and/or sex happened between Cloud and Tifa under the Highwind when Cloud never touched Tifa, then they can't claim that it's impossible that Cloud and Aerith kissed and/or cuddled on the gondola after the fade out. How do they know that Cloud and Aerith didn't go back to the Ghost Hotel together after Cait Sith swiped the Keystone?

It takes just as much imagination to think that Cloud and Tifa cuddled, kissed, or had sex under the Highwind as to think that Cloud and Aerith cuddled, kissed, or had sex during or after their Date.... ;)

Cloud and Aerith were also alone in the bedroom at the Inn in Costa Del Sol while Tifa was talking to Johnny. How do we know what happened there? It takes no more imagination to think that something happened than it does to imagine something happening under the Highwind.

Toxo - June 12, 2005 08:21 PM (GMT)
If you ask me, I would say that they didn't.
A kiss or hug could be possible, but make love; no. :whistle:

:cleris:

Seii Monogatari - June 12, 2005 11:23 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Anastar @ Jun 12 2005, 08:10 PM)
Cloud and Aerith were also alone in the bedroom at the Inn in Costa Del Sol while Tifa was talking to Johnny. How do we know what happened there? It takes no more imagination to think that something happened than it does to imagine something happening under the Highwind.

Ooh, forget Cloud x Aeris! The Tifa x Johnny pr0n scene was shpectakular, I is so sure!!!1 :woot: :lol:


Or who knows what happened after Cloud walked Aeris home!? They both slept at her house, maybe she went over to his room at some point ... :whistle:


This is so much fun. XD

Anastar - June 13, 2005 05:02 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Seii_Monogatari @ Jun 12 2005, 11:23 PM)
Or who knows what happened after Cloud walked Aeris home!?  They both slept at her house, maybe she went over to his room at some point ... :whistle:

This is so much fun. XD

LOL!! Seriously... Cloud had quite a bit of opportunity to do it with Aerith. Who knows?

How about in Cosmo Canyon after Cloud told Aerith, "But I'm... we're here for you?" at the Cosmo Candle? We have no idea where they all slept that night. :whistle:

slowerthanaverage - June 13, 2005 05:19 AM (GMT)
>.< Oh dear, we're all turning rabid lol

Seriously, I don't think making love was factor in any point of the game. More than anything, the game is portraying love in the purest sense. Aerith's unwavering love for the planet, Cloud's strong love (again romantic or platonic :rolleyes: ) for a dead flowergirl that drove him all the way to defeat Sephiroth...etc etc

Anastar - June 13, 2005 05:27 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (slowerthanaverage @ Jun 13 2005, 05:19 AM)
Seriously, I don't think making love was factor in any point of the game. More than anything, the game is portraying love in the purest sense. Aerith's unwavering love for the planet, Cloud's strong love (again romantic or platonic :rolleyes: ) for a dead flowergirl that drove him all the way to defeat Sephiroth...etc etc

Very honestly, I agree with you. I also think that IF Cloud kissed any woman at any point during the game, we would have seen it in FMV like they did in FFVIII and FFX.

However, the point I was trying to make is that if the Cloti's want to claim that Cloud did it with Tifa under the Highwind, Cloud had every bit as much opportunity to do it with Aerith on his Date with her as well as in other points during Disk One.

Kusari Yarou - June 13, 2005 05:35 AM (GMT)
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Seriously, I don't think making love was factor in any point of the game

We were just having fun, slower ^_^
I'm just so sick of that sex-under-the-Highwind "proof". Time for sex at Costa Del Sol/Aerith's House/Ghost Hotel/etc. proof! ;)
The fact is, there is a lot of things that disprove Cloud doing it with Tifa. He has his arms rigidly folded when they wake up in the morning, Tifa rests her head on his shoulder(when they supposedly have been bonking all night), the ground was full of sharp broken rocks etc.
So shat's to say that Cloud didn't do it with Aerith? Certainly there's nothing to disprove it!
But as I said, we were just having fun with the whole thing

slowerthanaverage - June 13, 2005 05:39 AM (GMT)
I knew Cloud and Zack did it while they were imprisoned by the Shinra, I just knew it...

teehee :P

yin-chan - June 13, 2005 05:56 AM (GMT)
lol!! XD That's a good one!! :lol: :lol:

If SE were to ever confirm that Cloud had ever *did it*, I'd so much rather he have done it with aerith than anyone else. :cleris:
Though of course, such confirmation will probably never happen!

Kusari Yarou - June 13, 2005 06:01 AM (GMT)
How about Sephy and Zack at that bedroom in Nibelheim? :lol:

Anastar - June 13, 2005 11:41 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Kusari Yarou @ Jun 13 2005, 05:35 AM)
The fact is, there is a lot of things that disprove Cloud doing it with Tifa. He has his arms rigidly folded when they wake up in the morning, Tifa rests her head on his shoulder(when they supposedly have been bonking all night), the ground was full of sharp broken rocks etc.

Very true, but the Cloti's go beyond just claiming sex between them... they think that Cloud and Tifa actually proclaimed their love to one another that night. :puke: All you say is very true, along with Cloud's manner to her. IF they had "discovered their love" for one another the night before, why isn't he gazing lovingly into her eyes the next morning? Why doesn't he take her into his arms? I doubt that Cloud would be acting so nonchalant if something so significant had taken place the night before.

The thing is, aren't significant moments such as telling someone that you love them, or a first kiss, shown in FMV in Final Fantasies? Tidus and Yuna in Moonglow lake, for example, or Squall embracing Rinoa as he rescues her from the Sorceress Memorial, or Squall kissing Rinoa at the end of the game. Stuff like that is shown in FMV, and there was no FMV for the Highwind scene. If something significant had happened in that scene, it would have been shown in FMV.

Kaldea - June 13, 2005 03:35 PM (GMT)
Pssh. Cloud had sex with Jessie when she had her leg caught. Common sense. :rolleyes:

"Oh Cloud! You're all dirty!"

EnglishRose - June 13, 2005 03:38 PM (GMT)
I didn't realize this was gonna be such a big topic! To be honest with you, all I ever think happened (as far as they would go) is that they would cuddle and kiss. Because, I mean, wouldn't the people in charge of the gondola notice it rocking and report it? What about if Tifa heard them in the ghost hotel??? XD

By the way, I cant remember when Johnny and Tifa talked. :ermm: Please remind me?

Velvy - June 14, 2005 10:09 AM (GMT)
Nobody had sex in FFVII. XD

Except possibly whoever was in those rooms (the ones you can peek in) in the Honeybee Inn.

And of course, CLOUD X TIFA. We all know they totally did it on the ground underneath the highwind!!1!!!! So what if they woke up in the exact same position?!?? So what if they didn't show it (it's a PG-13 game!! Of course they wouldn't show it!)?! It's still FACTUAL EVIDENCE!!! *IN YOUR FACE*

AerithResurrected - Tifa and Johnny talked in Costa Del Sol. ^_^

Carmencita - June 14, 2005 11:28 AM (GMT)
Did Cloud and Aerith ever make love?

"Well, maybe backstage! XD" Just kidding!

But, yeah, like Velvy said, nobody had sex in FF7 except those shady Honey Bee Inn people... or at least, nobody said anything about the main characters having sex during the game. Of course, that never stopped people from speculating. (Darn Sex Under the Highwind issue.)

EnglishRose - June 14, 2005 03:04 PM (GMT)
Hear hear, zhakeena!!! :D Everyone is speculating if Cloud and Tifa ever did it, and... I don't know. Even though Tifa likes Cloud, Cloud only loves her as a friend, that is all.

BusterBlader - June 14, 2005 07:09 PM (GMT)
I think they didn't make love; however, I think Cloud and Aeris were slowly showing that they loved each other. I can't back this up with any evidence, it's just an opinion. How many of you guys would say Aeris wanted to make love but couldn't because Cloud wasn't sure about it? The reason why I say this is because Cloud lost his mother when Sephiroth burnt Nibelheim to the ground, and Cloud didn't want anything happen to Aeris. I think eventually Cloud and Aeris would've made love.

Andina - June 14, 2005 11:23 PM (GMT)
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Nobody had sex in FFVII. XD

I always had my doubts what really happened with Cloud, Mukki and all those others in that bath tub...that scene was just...umm...interesting? ^_-

Tifa Lockheart - June 15, 2005 09:38 AM (GMT)
I was with my guy cousin (Zhakeena's older brother) when I was playing that part of the game in FF7 (the honeybee inn thing with Mukki and the others in the tub and saying "Isn't bathing great?") and I couldn't help but cringe *shudder* but all I could tell my cousin was, "Will that scene take long? It's quite obscene!"
And he was frozen on the spot. :lol:

Anyway, ... Cloud and Aerith made love or not, SO WHAT?! Even though I think they didn't (unless there are hidden events in the game we don't know about. Haha). :lol:
Sex isn't entirely the basis for proving to someoen how much you love him/her! O_o'

yin-chan - June 15, 2005 12:28 PM (GMT)
Ahahaha!!! Well said, Tifa!!!! :gift: I couldn't agree more.

And I found that bathing scene well hilarious!!!! :lmao: laughed my hair off!!

EnglishRose - June 15, 2005 03:28 PM (GMT)
I blushed and went all red during that bathing scene! Mukki was sooo gross! lol. I was like: "Ok, when will I get the Bikini Briefs and get outta here? I wanna save it for Don Corneo!!!" Lol, poor Cloud. :lol: I feel sorry for him. :blush:

ucantmakeme - June 23, 2005 08:29 PM (GMT)
Well, I don't neccesarily believe in only having sex after marriage, but I don't think they did it. I mean, whether he did it with Tifa or not wouldn't matter to me, one way or the other, but I wouldn'y like it if he did it with Aerith. With Tifa it would only be like getting releif physically. With Aerith it would be more emotional/mentally fulfilling. Okay, the game didn't even show a kiss. They are obviously in love, but it didn't have a bit of kissing. Don't you think it would at least show that? And to me Aerith seems so pure. I think she would be a virgin and she wouldn't have sex with Cloud after one date. Maybe I'm old fashion, but if they would have done it, it would have been after a long time, driven by passion, and incredibly romantic. I think Aerith and Cloud would have done it eventually, of course, but not so soon. If they did do it, they would have at least show something to give us more proof, one way or the other.

EnglishRose - June 24, 2005 03:17 PM (GMT)
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I think she would be a virgin and she wouldn't have sex with Cloud after one date.


I agree. Aerith seems the sort, doesn't she??? :aeris:

So pure...

Aerith's_Man - June 24, 2005 06:29 PM (GMT)
Even if they did have sex (which they did that is why Tifa hates her so much and TSQoH's fanfic was so right on how she was a satanic demon who just wanted Cloud.) Square would have atleast showed us a kiss and then lead us to belive they did have sex. So I am pretty sure they did not.

ucantmakeme - June 24, 2005 08:46 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (AerithResurrected @ Jun 24 2005, 03:17 PM)
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I think she would be a virgin and she wouldn't have sex with Cloud after one date.


I agree. Aerith seems the sort, doesn't she??? :aeris:

So pure...

:D Thanks for supporting my point AR!


And I'm agreeing with Xavier here too.

Hyper-Ballad - July 8, 2005 03:03 PM (GMT)
In answer to the original question: No, I don't believe the relationship developed in that way, even behind the scenes. I don't even think it progressed to a kiss, and that's what I like about the C/A relationship - that all their intimacy was emotional. It's truly sad that the relationship could never go further, but it's the beauty of it too. Their growing feelings are expressed through other ways. They could be close and develop a strong bond before it became a definite physically romantic relationship. It was an affair of the heart. :wub:

QUOTE (ucantmakeme)
I mean, whether he did it with Tifa or not wouldn't matter to me, one way or the other, but I wouldn'y like it if he did it with Aerith. With Tifa it would only be like getting releif physically.

I disagree. As CG likes to say, Cloud isn't a typical hormonal guy. :P He isn't the sort to jeopardise his friendship with Tifa because of physical release. He doesn't go looking for physical release; that kind of need doesn't really figure into his life. If he ever had sex with Tifa, it would be because he was in love with her (however unlikely I think it is), because I don't believe he could be so intimate with someone he didn't care about very deeply, or use a close friend for sex. :(

Something else I felt like addressing:

QUOTE (ucantmakeme)
Don't you think it would at least show that? And to me Aerith seems so pure. I think she would be a virgin

QUOTE (AerithResurrected)
I agree. Aerith seems the sort, doesn't she??? :aeris:

So pure...

I don't mean to offend either of your personal views on sex (and if I do so unintentionally, then I'm sorry), but personally I disagree with this. I actually think that Aeris is the one playable girl in FFVII who isn't a virgin. She seems far more romantically experienced and mature than both Tifa and Yuffie. I just think that having dated Zack (and believing that she was in love with him) at the ripe age of seventeen (and I presume that he was a bit older), their relationship would have gone as far as sex. Both Aeris and Zack are caring, impulsive, live-for-the-moment types of people who care for each other, and I think Aeris' spiritual disposition would have made her more likely to embrace her feelings fully.

It's actually something I like in the C/A relationship if it ever had the chance to become a sexual relationship - the fact that the girl isn't a virgin, but the guy is. Cloud doesn't have to be a slick, experienced macho type of guy, just himself, and Aeris would accept him. It's such a reversal of the cliche. ^_^

EnglishRose - July 8, 2005 03:44 PM (GMT)
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I don't mean to offend either of your personal views on sex (and if I do so unintentionally, then I'm sorry)


No, its fine. You didn't offend me, this is what I made this topic for! :)

Those are interesting views, Hyper. And I do agree, Cloud wouldn't want to jeopardize his and Tifa's relationship, and he would respect her. ^_^

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I actually think that Aeris is the one playable girl in FFVII who isn't a virgin


She probably isn't. but she wouldn't have sex just for the sake of it.

Hyper-Ballad - July 8, 2005 04:42 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (AerithResurrected)
She probably isn't. But she wouldn't have sex just for the sake of it.

I couldn't agree more. She would never have sex with just anyone - but I just believe that she probably did have had sex with her then-boyfriend. ^_^

QUOTE (AerithResurrected)
No, its fine. You didn't offend me, this is what I made this topic for! :)

I'm glad! :huggle:

Anti-R - July 8, 2005 05:51 PM (GMT)
I think they did it. :P

Buying the Protein Drink in Wall Market. Cloud and Aerith spend a night together in an inn.

EnglishRose - July 8, 2005 05:54 PM (GMT)
You're blunt, Anti-R!! Yeah, but if they did at Wall Market, Mukki would've found out and kinda bashed her! Hehe. :lol: Poor Aeris. :aeris:




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