I can't help but become paranoid and think of the what-if's regarding Advent Children, and this is one thing that has been bothering me quite recently:

What if Advent Children turns out to be Cloti? :sad:

What will be your reaction to it? Will you become Cloti too? Will you remain a Clerith? :cry:

I know only Nomura and the people involved in the making of Advent Children are the only ones who know the truth. But sometimes, the statement "Aerith fans will not be disappointed" seems to be a lot more vague than you think.

Like, c'mon, I know you can't help it but think about it too! :(
I just need your reactions to this matter.

I wouldn't go back to being a CloTi. You have to put it this way, it's Clouds decision and he may do what he want. (Actually, it's up to what they creators want it to be...) I hope it don't turn out that way though.

Yeah, good call. Lets hope the creators remember the personalities of their own characters and don't go OOC on us. We know Cloti isn't meant to be... but does Square? :P

Oh I'll just all sell my FF merchandise and become a very rich girl. :rolleyes:

They'd lose this fan, for sure.

I could care less really. It's a game. :lol:

But Square wouldn't do that. I seriously doubt they will officially conclude the love triangle with so many fans gone rabid over it.

:o oh oh I really really hope not!!!!

I would still be fan though but I'd be really annoyed. >___<"
cloti is so not right!
but oh well....if thats what the creators want, then so be it. TT___TT
noooo~~

We actually had another thread on this many months ago: What If Cloud Ended Up With Tifa?, so you may want to look at people's thoughts there.

I doubt very much that Square would put Cloud with Tifa. IF it happened, however, I'd react the same way as Clorith. Square Enix would lose a fan and a supporter. It would ruin Final Fantasy VII for me, and ruin the integrity of their games for me in general. I wouldn't buy any more of their merchandise.

I could never "become" a Cloti because I think that Cloud and Tifa make a horrible couple. Saying that you are a Cloti means that you support the couple, and I could never support them. My support will always be for CloudxAerith, no matter what. :cleris:

I really don't care if they make it Cloti, I would still love Cloud X Aeris. 'Sides it's just a game. I mean if you stop buying stuff from Square just because they didn't make the couple (that you prefer) official, it's kind of stupid. :\ Annnnd, don't be offended on what I just said. But that's just my opinion. :\

I agree with Kagome, it's abit silly to just stop yourself over a pairing in a game, isn't it?
I like both couples, they both have evidence as to why they work and all, but come on, it makes you feel ill thinking about it?
I hope this isn't beausr you think Tifa's a 'slut', 'whore','hooker' person, as there's no evidence to this at all in the game. Wow, she wears a tank top, so what? the only reason her skirt is that short is because she has it high up, you see no belly button what so ever! :P

I'm a Clorith now and forever. Simple as that.

Though I strongly doubt that Square will make AC into Cloti. IF they suddenly lose their minds and were to make AC a cloti, I'd go hysterical, yes, but I wouldn't go as far as to say Square would lose a fan and I'd start sending them large amounts of hate mail. I'd lose a great amount of interest in FFVII and forever be bitter about it, but I'll hold my breath and accept it. But, I'll never convert to Cloti. I sudder at the thought. :puke:

Actually I think it's normal to be upset. Anytime you put time and emotion into something it's upsetting when it seems like it was all for nothing and you feel a sort of betrayal.

I don't think anyone here considers Tifa to be a slut.... :unsure: to me people here seem to actually like her. We just all agree Aeris is better for Cloud. Nothing against Tifa. I think it was great how in the end she ignored her own feelings and wanted Cloud to find Aeris. It showed a lot of class.

I can especially understand Anastar being upset considering how much time she's put into this couple. Her site is amazing and so is this forum. Many people here have sites and fanart and fanfics, and so it's understandable to feel as though you've been lied to. I personally will feel bad for clotis if it goes Cleris and I plan to be as respectful of them as we would want them to be if it goes Cloti.

Yunalesca and Kagome --- of course, you guys have a good point. I don't think anyone in this thread would seriously be devastated if AC didn't go their way. It would be annoying if it didn't, but certainly for me I'd just dust myself off and move on, as I think most people on this thread would. But remember, this is a CloudXAerith thread, so people are just "waxing philosophically" about this particular topic. Don't read too much into it.

Also - most people in this thread don't think Tifa is a "skank" or a "slut." The members on this thread are all pretty reasonable and even-handed. We like the coupling of CloudXAerith, but there's nothing "rabid" about us good folks here.

My thoughts exactly. Since it's Star Wars season, ending it CloTi would be like pairing Padme with Obi-Wan. :woot: Besides, I don't play that much video games. More of a movie person, actually. Heck, the only reason I played games in the past was because my brother owned them. Now that he's moved out, I doubt I'll buy a game system unless something compelled me to do so. FFVII for the PS3, for instance (which right now may or, more likely, may not happen). Or maybe KH3... So anyway, if Cloud ended up with Tifa, I'd definitely abandon ship.

I agree with Clorith on this one, that's mostly the reason I got into gaming too :). However, there is that large probability for many of us who are not such avid gamers, that we wouldn't continue contributing to Square financially anyway. Truth is that I haven't bought any of their recent games like I did in the past, in a long time (some of us are also broke :D). And simply I just don't have that kind of free time anymore. So I might have to adadon ship too soon. Still love :cleris: though no matter what.

I would so cry. But I would stay Clarith! 100% I like this forum and CXA so that is what I am!!

I would *never* revert to being Cloti.

I already have an appreciation of the couple as a NON-canon coupling (like Auron x Rikku). If, in the film, they become canon, I would totally accept it provided it's done well. Tifa is a nice character, and she will take care of Cloud. It would be childish of me to whine and bitch and moan and complain about it.

But at the same time I would be genuinely upset, because Square-Enix would have really led us in a strange direction.

I don't think it's possible for someone who really loves CloAe to suddenly turn CloTi because of AC. It's just one movie, though it's really important to all the fans, if the movie turns CloTi, that would only show how screwed Square ENIX is. Pssh, it's the same with people who like totally impossible pairings, like me for example. SeiferxSquall is love. I know Squall and Rinoa officially belong together, but that won't stop be from loving the yaoi ness of it. =) So if the movie turns CloTi, the CloRith fans will gang up and kill Square.

:huggle:

What?! Padme x Obi-Wan, no way! The couple is, Padme x Yoda. :P

Yoda: Descendants, we must have.
Padme: Nooo!!! Grosss!!!

Muahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :devil: :lol:

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I've already said this before, but here is it again: Cleris 4 Life

If, and only if, the movie turns out to be Cloti, everything I once thought of FFVII, Tetsuya Nomura, and everyone involved in this game (except for Mr. Sakaguchi and Mr. Kitase, because I know they are Clerises) would be reorganized, into hate and lack of respect. Also, I'll always remember FFVII as the game with the most stupid ending (Remember only if it turns out to be Cloti), and try to forget everything about it.

And, if the Cloti ending, ever happens, I wouldn't buy another Final Fantasy game that has Nomura & Co. as it developers. I don't want to sound childish about this, but I would really lose the respect, that now, I have for them. And once that happens, that respect never, ever, comes back, again.

Hey guys, but don't let yourselfs down. We have to think POSITIVE. Until September we must be strong. Lets show that strenght that only us Clerises have. :cleris: 4 LIFE

:lmao: :lmao:

Yeah, that's right!! :lmao:

Anyway I highly doubt it'll end CloTi, like Clerith-son said. Sakaguchi never intended for Cloud to be with Tifa, he didn't even create Tifa! So if Nomura had one ounce of respect for him, he wouldn't go against his wishes like that. The worse that could happen is that it'll end as neither.

I know for one that I will be extremly dissapointed. :( (especially after waiting so long for this movie)...But, I must say that to me, the game Final Fantasy VII will always be Final Fantasy VII. We know that CloudxAeris are the true couple of that game. Nothing can change that :D
I will also be confused if it ends up being a CoudxTifa ending. Why would Square use CloudxAeris so often in other games, Kingdom Hearts as one example, only to have the sequel to Final Fantasy VII contradict everything they have been showing the public for years?

It is not stupid when you only play a game for a certain couple. There are people who do that, so it makes perfect sense for them to abandon the game if it doesn't support the couple anymore, do you not agree? ^_^

For myself, I love playing games in general, I wouldn't stop playing SE games especially KH series :fangirl: But I wouldn't play DOC anymore. I wouldn't like the idea of seeing Cloud x Tifa having babies in it. Cos it is totally OCC for Cloud (hell yeah! OCC is mah favourite word at the moment lol)

I would question how they portray Cloud and Aerith in KH too. Oh yes, it can totally be just for fan service but if you go to that extent of releasing so many merchandise of CxA just for fan service, I would say SE has lost their integrity.

Whoa whoa one minute please, whoever mentioned anything about Tifa's "slut" on this thread? :o It's sad you link that line of thinking to other Clerises :no:

You the genius Clerith-son! Yoda's the man! lol :lmao:

^_^ I'd always be a fan no matter what, I love being Cloti and Cleris, if they choose who wins in the triangle, I'd be disappointed, but I'd still love both couplings, I'd just know which one was canon.

I would say "Okay, Cloud moved on with Tifa, but I still believe he loved Aeris in FFVII". I'd still love FFVII, I'd still love the characters, and I'd still love the movie

I guess it depends on how the two get together, first off. If, for whatever reason Square decided to go down that path, they would probably do a good job of making the transition, but I still wouldn't like it.

I agree. It's not ridiculous for us to be miffed when we've put so much into it. It may just be a game, but it's a hobby like any other hobby, which people tend to forget. Sure it's not real, but you connect with the characters and the plot and you come to appreciate them. I've been a cleris fan for years, and to have something like their relationship yanked out from under my feet and replaced by something that I've never supported, especially when Square has always supported Cloud with Aeris, it would just make me angry. Yes, I would get angry over a videogame. :P

Then, it the movie ended cloti, you would never get the clotis to shut up about it, it would be an endless string of I-told-you-so's and would destroy the fandom. I would never intend to rub a cleris ending in their faces, although I'm sure some of us would. I would love a cleris ending myself, but regardless of how much the Cloud and Tifa fans say they don't care and it doesn't matter, it will break their hearts too. When you spend your time writing out stories, doujinshi, or fanart dedicated to something like a pairing, you are pouring your heart out. It shows your affection to the characters and their relationships. Anyone who debates over the love triangle cares, no matter how much they try to deny it. -_-

I would continue to be a Final Fantasy fan, because the good thing about those games is that they aren't connected. I certainly wouldn't view Nomura the same way, but I wouldn't stop playing S-E's RPGs. I love Kingdom Hearts, and will continue playing that series and I'm going to get FFXII, even if AC ends cloti. I probably won't get DoC or Crisis Core, but then I might not anyway, because I can't afford all those new game consoles. >_<

Too much of the game's meaning for me is attached to the love between CloudxAerith. Their love is part of what defines Cloud's character for me, as well as Aerith's. My favorite part of the game was the love story between Cloud and Aerith. I don't want to see my understanding of their love invalidated because Square depicts it otherwise.

The thought of Cloud getting together with Tifa would ruin a great part of game for me because I understood the ending to mean that Cloud would continue searching for Aerith until he found her, rather than "settling" for whatever's available. It'd ruin the meaning of continued love, continued devotion, and the idea of Cloud striving to do something that others consider impossible because of his love for Aerith. CloudxTifa would be cheap in comparison, and I can't stand the idea of them together.

If I saw Square resort to such a simplistic ending that completely contradicted the beauty and the meaning of FFVII as I perceived it, it would completely ruin the game for me. Like Clerith-son, I'd lose my respect for Square very fast and it'd ruin the integrity of their games for me in general. I would no longer trust the meaning of their stories because, in my opinion, putting Cloud with Tifa would turn FFVII into a total sham. It'd destroy the meaning of the story for me.

Exactly, Seii. That's also why I think that AC will leave the Love Triangle unresolved. SE can't possibly make everyone happy if they put Cloud with anyone, so it'd be easiest for them to leave it inconclusive. Besides the Cloti fans, there's also CloudxZack fans, CloudxYuffie fans, CloudxBarret fans, CloudxSephiroth fans, and AerithxZack fans out there who will be unhappy if Cloud gets together with Aerith at the end of AC. Cloti and Cleris are the biggest groups, but they're not the ONLY groups fighting over who Cloud loves. No matter who Square puts Cloud together with at the end of AC, there will be unhappy groups of fans. That makes me think it's most likely that they'll leave the Love Triangle unresolved - unless they kill Cloud. :devil:

I don't know the best way to success, but, one of the best ways for failing, is to try to please everyone.

Now that I think of it, it must be pretty hard for S-E, if they choose a coupling, the fans of the other couplings will get angry and some may never play their games again, but if they don't choose a coupling, most people will be disappointed because they want the Love Triangle Debates to finally end. O_O I mean, if it ends up with no answer, I'd be relieved that no one's gonna be all 'I TOLD YOU SO!!LOLOMGWTFLMAO!!', but I'd also be disappointed, because I want all this love triangle arguing crap to end. :sad: I'm so confused.

True... however, I don't think they'd try to make everyone happy by leaving it inconclusive. They'd just avoid making anyone UNhappy by leaving it inconclusive.

Square's sorta in a trap now because they left the original game open to so many interpretations. We've had about eight years to make our own interpretation of the game. Many people have developed theories about their ideas, and they've studied the game carefully to find "evidence" supporting their claims. Many people have a lot of time and effort invested in their beliefs. Who does Square choose to disappoint?

It's one thing to revive Tidus and put him together with Yuna because there was no question in FFX that Tidus loved Yuna and that Yuna loved him. But there was no place in FFVII where Cloud kissed, embraced, or said, "I love you" to anyone. Yes, he kisses the hand of both Aerith and Tifa during the Play in their Date scenes, but that doesn't count as much since it's optional and he's able to do it to both of them. Because Square did that in the original game, they left it open to interpretation. If they now choose who Cloud should be with, there's going to be a lot of unhappy people no matter who they choose for him to be with.

So, they may not make everyone happy... but they will avoid destroying anyone's interpretation of the game if they leave it inconclusive. Nomura has already said that the AC team has decided not to portray anything that would contradict the interpretation of the game held by different gamers and also stated that there are as many interpretations of the game as there are gamers. That says to me that they will leave it inconclusive.

Exactly, Rikkulicious. But which is worse for fans? To have Cloud end up with someone you really don't want him with, or to leave it open to interpretation? Very realistically, the love triangle crap will most likely continue regardless of whether they pair Cloud up with someone at the end of AC or not. I considered Kingdom Hearts to conclusively show that Cloud loved Aerith, but there's many a Cloti out there who argues it. The same will happen if they end AC "conclusively", too.

I can see it now... if Cloud ends up with Aerith in AC, there are Cloti's who will argue that if Cloud had been able to live without being affected by Geostigma, that he would have ended up with Tifa. The only reason he didn't end up with Tifa is because he knew he would die, yadda, yadda. If Cloud ends up with Tifa, then Cleris people will argue that his first choice would have been Aerith if she had lived, that Tifa is nothing but "second best", that Cloud's heart is still with Aerith, and that he will end up with Aerith when he dies, yadda, yadda. The arguing won't stop.

I wouldn't worry too much, especially since we haven't seen a single thing that points to CloTi in any of the AC trailers, interviews, merchandise, etc... ^_^

I just read something kind of disturbing.

"Of course, AC was already in the middle of being made, and in AC, people can deeply experience Tifa and Cloud's story."

--Kitase

Though it doesn't confirm anything, I really don't like the sound of that. Oh, how could Kitase have turned on us. :'(

Don't worry, Kitase hasn't turned on us! ^_^ He was explaining why Vincent is the star of DC, and saying that it's because the other game focus was on different characters.

He went on to say tha Cloud's story is concluded in AC, not "their" story, so I get the feeling Tifa may finally let go of him thus ending "Tifa and Cloud's story". I think they use "story" to describe a plot arch, and Cloud's story ends in Advent Children. ;)

Damn. it.
Wait, where'd you read that? I googled it and nothing came up

You can see the interview here: http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3143305

I am not worried for Kitase´s words... Like Seii has said, there is only one stry which will conclude in AC, and it´s Cloud´s story. Tifa is out of the picture ^^.

Hmmm ... that is food for thought ...

It doesn't make sense :o

Because Aerith seems important with the calling, and the hand reach scene, and the touching, and smiling ...

But then things like this are said about Tifa and Cloud ...

I'm so confused :lol:

I think it could either mean that his story ends in the sense that he goes off with Aerith ( or alone *waves to C_G* :huggle:) or in the sense that it ends with Tifa in the WoR living a peaceful life there helping restore the damage done to towns by Meteo ...

Whoa ... everything seemed so cleris yesterday ;o So certain. Now I feel blown open again :blush:

Why worry about it? We'll know for sure within a few hours. :lmao:

Why does a reference to "Cloud and Tifa's story" mean Cloti? It could be talking about the story of their friendship. It could be talking about the story of their fight against the SHM. It could be talking about the story of their fight to get the orphan's back. It could be the story of why Cloud and Tifa don't end up together. :lol: It could mean a bunch of stuff.

Don't worry. :P

If the movie ended up as CloTi, I would be very disappointed. However, I won't change my pairing preference. It will always be CloAe for me. :cleris:

Hmm..can you guys imagine what will happen once S-E decided to make one CP officially canon? I think it'd be like what happened to the Harry Potter fandom after the release of the Half Blood Prince (gloating from one side; wanking from the other)...

...or it could be worse.

Yeah you're right :huggle:

There were HP pairing fans groups murasame? I never knew that :o I never knew HBP was important in that aspect I just read it to find out who the prince was :P

Although I'd guessed by like the end of the second chapter :ermm:

Aly! Aly! Has Venice happened yet? :fangirl:

Yeah, the HP fandom went insane after the couples that were made canon in HBP.

Yes, it has. It was shown about eight hours ago for the first time.

I haven't found any summaries yet. :sad:

Merchandise counts? I always though it didn't....wow I learned something new. ^^

But anywho........I think Cloud x Tifa would be hard to pull off. They are kinda good friends andd I like some CxT, but from what I can see *spoiler*


























Aerith and Cloud holding hands




























*spoiler*


That it is defidently CxA. So have no fear CxA is here! :cleris: Cloud and Aerith would be cute........I still think Cloud and Sephiroth own all! Maybe that is my estranged fangirl-ism but meh.