Title: New Cc Details
Kaldea - May 18, 2005 11:13 PM (GMT)
From AC.net:
http://www.adventchildren.net/index.php?su...t_from=&ucat=2&Crisis Core
- A woman can be heard talking at the beginning of the trailer. It is possibly Aerith, as she refers to seeing "him" for the last time and references a relationship [likely refering to Zack here].
- Footage is in anime style with many action kinds of scenes.
- It appears as it will take place before and possibly after the events of Nibelheim where Sephiroth found out who he was.
- Sephiroth can be seen stabbing Cloud in the reactor.
- The end of the trailer shows the words "A story of three young men and one woman bound for destiny's core". Based on the trailer seen, these are most likely Zack/Cloud/Sephiroth.OoooOOooooOOooo...
Anastar - May 19, 2005 12:04 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Cloud's Girl @ May 18 2005, 11:13 PM) |
- A woman can be heard talking at the beginning of the trailer. It is possibly Aerith, as she refers to seeing "him" for the last time and references a relationship [likely refering to Zack here].
- The end of the trailer shows the words "A story of three young men and one woman bound for destiny's core". Based on the trailer seen, these are most likely Zack/Cloud/Sephiroth. |
If the woman talking at the beginning is Aerith, then the woman referred to in "a story of three young men and one woman bound for destiny's core" is most likely Aerith, too! :fangirl:
I was hoping Crisis Core would be about what Jenova did to the Ancients, but this sounds good, too... especially if it goes into Cloud's relationship with Aerith! :woot:
Kaldea - May 19, 2005 12:07 AM (GMT)
Hmm... Square seems to be focusing more on the MOST IMPORTANT people of FFVII now. Aeris is showing up more and more too. I wonder if it's a hint? :rolleyes:
Seii Monogatari - May 19, 2005 12:37 AM (GMT)
I sure hope it's Aerith!! ^_^ It could be Tifa thinking about the last time she saw Cloud, and how she thought there was a relationship, but it makes more sense that it would be Aerith, given her ties to the planet, to Cloud, to Zack and to Sephiroth. :D
Evenstar - May 19, 2005 04:15 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE |
| It could be Tifa thinking about the last time she saw Cloud, and how she thought there was a relationship, but it makes more sense that it would be Aerith, given her ties to the planet, to Cloud, to Zack and to Sephiroth. |
Ugh! Let's just hope the Cloti's won't even think of that possibility <_< . Aerith makes more sense than Tifa any day.
Seii Monogatari - May 19, 2005 04:34 AM (GMT)
Or, it could be Elmyra, thinking back on the last time she saw her husband, and her relationship with him!! It's a fairly flexible interpretation based on what we know so far. ;) But it makes more sense that it would be Aeris, since she's always been the most important heroine in the FF VII Saga, excluding BC, because it was focused more in ShinRa. :rolleyes:
slowerthanaverage - May 19, 2005 05:55 AM (GMT)
OMG SE is the coolest ever! They are tackling the FFVII from different perspectives aren't they?
It has to be Aerith, Cloud , Zack and Sephy! She has the strongest ties to the 3 of them
Everchanging - May 19, 2005 08:26 AM (GMT)
Does this mean that Seph knew Cloud before Cloud killed him, cos in the reactor sequence in Clouds past, Seph says 'just like you'.
It's strange they chose to do CC like this, I expected anchients and stuff too. I hope it ends up being good or whatever. Loads of things in FF7 were left to the imagination and many FF7 fans have had years to develop ideas to the gaps never filled in. Would SE be able to beat that.
I don't know much about Zack but I've always respected him, he'd make and alright main character.
Clorith - May 19, 2005 12:35 PM (GMT)
I'm hoping with all my heart that it's Aerith!! It'll be awesome!! And SE did say CC would exceed everyone's expectations! Well it would for me if it were about Aerith!! :woot:
C'mon, Cloud and Zack were definitely doing more than rotting in a fish tank for 5 years!! :woot:
Yukari - May 19, 2005 02:16 PM (GMT)
I think there's a greater possibilty of it being Aerith rather than Tifa anyway - we've just about learned all we can about Tifa from FFVII and maybe some of BC. Aerith on the other hand... There's a lot of stuff Square could reveal about her life and her heritage that we haven't learned of yet. ^_^
Everchanging - May 19, 2005 02:50 PM (GMT)
There's also the fact that when Zack clothed Cloud he also bandaged his arm. What happened to poor Clouds arm, maybe they'll tell us. What'd Hojo do to him.
Hyper-Ballad - May 19, 2005 03:05 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Madame Batolli) |
| I think there's a greater possibilty of it being Aerith rather than Tifa anyway - we've just about learned all we can about Tifa from FFVII and maybe some of BC. Aerith on the other hand... There's a lot of stuff Square could reveal about her life and her heritage that we haven't learned of yet. ^_^ |
I agree. Aeris' life and heritage is an absolute treasure-trove of mystery and possibilities for a story. And so is Cloud and Zack's five years in the labs; but much darker. Even though it amounts to two young men having five years of their lives stolen from them and forced to participate in terrible experiments, and doesn't sound at all nice, it's something in the original game I can't help but feel morbidly curious about. -_-
~Fury Brand~ - May 19, 2005 03:23 PM (GMT)
I think it might depend on what they mean by destiny's core. If they mean Nibelheim then it might be Tifa :Tifa: since she was in that town and Aerith wasn't as far as we know.
Maybe she was though and nobody :lol: *imagines Aerith playing hide and peek on Cloud, Zack and Sephy* :lol:
Anyway I'm with Clorith *prays with all her heart too*
:aeris: :aeris: :aeris:
Destiny's always played a part in Aerith's life remember so with the use of the word destiny ... it was her destiny to travel to the City of the Ancients and experience the events there ...
Onigiri - May 19, 2005 08:34 PM (GMT)
Crisis Core definitly should have more to do with Cetras and all that. Just think of the name...and the logo. It should definitly be Aerith, since that 'destiny' that ties them all together would make more sense if it had something to do with the planet and the general story of FFVII, rather than one event that happened. Even though looking at what scene was shown and the people involved (Zack/Cloud/Sephiroth), it would seem to be Tifa (she was there) but once again...refering to the overall story, Aerith definitly makes more sense..a game focusing on nibelheim isnt much of a game...
But it seems that Zack is playing more and more of an important role in FFVII for some reason...in the game, he didn't seem all that important to the story...I wonder what his role would be in the game...
Tifa Lockheart - May 21, 2005 08:29 AM (GMT)
I hope it's not Tifa. I'm soooo tired of seeing her EVERYWHERE!!!!! :cry:
White*Mage - August 11, 2005 09:42 PM (GMT)
Sorry if I disagree with you..I like Aeris and all, but I also like tifa..So I gotta be reasonable. How can Aeris be bound be destiny core if she never meet Sephiroth or Cloud before FFVII. It doesn't make sense to me at all. I think Tifa is the one bound by destiny core because she was there in the Nibelhiem incident and she also meet Zack. She came to know all three men. :) ^_^
Kaldea - August 11, 2005 09:46 PM (GMT)
It doesn't matter how Aeris didn't meet people before FFVII. It's how she's connected to them. FFVII's characters are based heavilly on the connections they have.
That and do you think Tifa had a promise with Zack in Midgar? Maybe she saw Cloud in him and wanted him too. :whistle:
White*Mage - August 11, 2005 09:55 PM (GMT)
But that's exactly it...How did she connect with Cloud and Sephiroth if she never met them.
Tifa making a promise with Zack..nope..I believe it was Aeris at one point ^_^
Kaldea - August 11, 2005 10:27 PM (GMT)
...You don't have to meet someone to be connected to them... :unsure:
White*Mage - August 11, 2005 10:56 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Jenova @ Aug 11 2005, 10:27 PM) |
| ...You don't have to meet someone to be connected to them... :unsure: |
Whaaat...
I think you do :)
Materia Thief - August 11, 2005 11:33 PM (GMT)
Well, that's your opinion. I personally believe it's Aeris seeing as how it was her voice at the beginning and that she is much more closely intertwined with the story as a whole (the bigger picture) then Tifa. However that's just my opinion. ^_^
Anastar - August 11, 2005 11:43 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (White*Mage @ Aug 11 2005, 09:42 PM) |
| Sorry if I disagree with you..I like Aeris and all, but I also like tifa..So I gotta be reasonable. How can Aeris be bound be destiny core if she never meet Sephiroth or Cloud before FFVII. It doesn't make sense to me at all. I think Tifa is the one bound by destiny core because she was there in the Nibelhiem incident and she also meet Zack. She came to know all three men. :) ^_^ |
At the most, Tifa knew Zack for about four days. Aerith knew Cloud and Sephiroth longer than Tifa knew Zack, since Disk One could represent three to six months in real time. Therefore, Aerith knew all three men.
And as far as Aerith being bound by destiny's core to all three men, I think Aerith fits that far better than Tifa. Aerith was the one who summoned Holy and ultimately defeated Sephiroth. The defeat of Sephiroth is also tied to Cloud's destiny. Cloud's story revolved around Aerith during the game, both in terms of defeating Sephiroth and in terms of his love interest. Zack dated Aerith before FFVII, so Aerith was also connected with him.
Besides, the female voice at the beginning of the trailer has been recognized as Maaya Sakamoto, who is Aerith's VA. The one woman bound to three men by destiny's core is Aerith.
Yukari - August 12, 2005 12:12 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (White*Mage @ Aug 11 2005, 11:56 PM) |
| QUOTE (Jenova @ Aug 11 2005, 10:27 PM) | | ...You don't have to meet someone to be connected to them... :unsure: |
Whaaat...
I think you do :)
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...Aly's explained it better than I could. Like she said, Aerith and Sephiroth are connected, because she's the one who foiled his plans by summoning Holy and guiding the Lifestream when Meteor fell.
Aerith and Cloud are connected because he is connected to Sephiroth, who is connected to her. He is also connected to Zack, who most likely told him about Aerith. Most importantly, he's connected to Aerith herself because of the events of Final Fantasy VII.
We know that Aerith was Zack's girlfriend before he left for Nibelheim so he is connected to her too.
Besides, destiny cannot be defined by whether you know a person at this point in time. It can be your destiny to meet them, and you can be connected to them in ways you don't know yet. Destiny is predetermined, so it doesn't matter whether Aerith knew them before FFVII. She was still predetermined to meet Cloud, and it was still predetermined that Sephiroth would kill her. She was also predestined to lend a hand in Sephiroth's defeat.
White*Mage - August 12, 2005 02:50 AM (GMT)
Dont get me wrong I like aeris alot..but I still disagree..
hmm..but tifa was also conected as well with Cloud and the others.
What does all of that have to do with Jenova the crisis of the Sky.
Jenova was located in Nibelhiem all that time. In Nibelhiem was were the whole crisis erupted. Was it not Tifa's destiny to also play a role in the destruction of Sephiroth, I believe it was as well. I mean I hope its Aeris, but I still have my doubts. Guys sorry ^_^
Shrouded Light - August 12, 2005 03:08 AM (GMT)
I have no idea where you're getting the Jenova part from. I think people are focusing on this statement:
"A story of three young men and one woman bound for destiny's core".
As stated by Aly and CG , you don't have to meet someone just to be connected to them. The term "destiny" refers to the 3 men's fate to a woman, and to tell you the truth, I just can't connect Tifa to these three, especially Zack.
White*Mage - August 12, 2005 03:20 AM (GMT)
Yup I guess your right.... :P I was at some other site the other day and well they were talking about it in some other perspective.
Materia Thief - August 12, 2005 03:21 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Shrouded Light @ Aug 11 2005, 07:08 PM) |
| I just can't connect Tifa to these three especially Zack. |
Ditto and wouldn't that mean that a Tifa/Zack pairing has much more plausibility? :lmao:
EDIT: Well, people have their own perspectives. Doesn't matter whether you agree or disagree. Matters whether you've thought your position through and if you like/support it. :yawn:
White*Mage - August 12, 2005 03:24 AM (GMT)
Yeah well I cant wait until the release of that game....when is it? spring 06 right?
Yukari - August 12, 2005 11:13 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (White*Mage @ Aug 12 2005, 03:50 AM) |
Dont get me wrong I like aeris alot..but I still disagree.. hmm..but tifa was also conected as well with Cloud and the others. What does all of that have to do with Jenova the crisis of the Sky. Jenova was located in Nibelhiem all that time. In Nibelhiem was were the whole crisis erupted. Was it not Tifa's destiny to also play a role in the destruction of Sephiroth, I believe it was as well. I mean I hope its Aeris, but I still have my doubts. Guys sorry ^_^ |
And Jenova destroyed the Cetra race. Aerith was the last Cetra and Jenova and Sephiroth wanted her dead because she was the only one who could summon Holy to stop them. She's definitely more of a plausible choice than Tifa.
But it's entirely up to you what you believe. Your opinion, and you're entitled to it. ^_^ The release date is pencilled in for early 2006.
slowerthanaverage - August 12, 2005 04:44 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Shrouded Light @ Aug 12 2005, 03:08 AM) |
| The term "destiny" refers to the 3 men's fate to a woman. |
Perfectly put, shrouded.
3 men and 1 woman bound for destiny's core suggest how the fates of these 4 people get entwined together. It does not necessarily has to be "physically wise" aka they must get to know each other for their fates to be bound together.
Your other perspective I assume is drawn from the fact that Aerith had supposedly not met Cloud or Sephy yet, thus her destiny couldn't have been bound to them, right?
But we have all played FFVII haven't we? We do understand how the lives of these 4 people get entwined eventually, and it seemed that they were fated to be from the start weren't they?
Thus, it does make complete sense for the woman to be Aerith, as unknowing to them, events of Nibelhelm unfold and pull the lives of these 4 people together :)
Materia Thief - August 12, 2005 05:57 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (slowerthanaverage @ Aug 12 2005, 08:44 AM) |
Your other perspective I assume is drawn from the fact that Aerith had supposedly not met Cloud or Sephy yet, thus her destiny couldn't have been bound to them, right? But we have all played FFVII haven't we? We do understand how the lives of these 4 people get entwined eventually, and it seemed that they were fated to be from the start weren't they? Thus, it does make complete sense for the woman to be Aerith, as unknowing to them, events of Nibelhelm unfold and pull the lives of these 4 people together :) |
Indeed, I agree with this. If you think about it actually, the Nibelheim Event and the events following it (which Crisis Core is most likely centered around) acts as a catalyst for the events of Final Fantasy VII. If Zack hadn't died, then I think the dynamics of the relationship between Cloud and Aeris would have been drastically altered. Also, think about it, Cloud and Aeris were already 'connected' through Zack. What's the probability of them meeting randomly one day in the streets of Midgar, then again at her Church and then even after that, they found out that they were connected through Zack. In a city as big as Midgar, the probability of it occuring is outstanding.
Lynn - August 14, 2005 02:07 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (White*Mage @ Aug 11 2005, 10:56 PM) |
| QUOTE (Jenova @ Aug 11 2005, 10:27 PM) | | ...You don't have to meet someone to be connected to them... :unsure: |
Whaaat...
I think you do :)
|
I like to think of it as an invisible string that ties everyone together, winding close as each separate entity is later brought together to form a coherent picture. ^_^
As mentioned above, what are the chances of anything happening in the game? What are the chances that Cloud coincidentally fell through the roof of a church that belonged to a woman who used to be held prisoner by the very same people he was fighting? Aerith's ex-boyfriend could very well have been some other random SOLDIER, but it was Zack, who was also Cloud's best friend.
But I think most important is that the dialogue mentions a "promise" made in Midgar.
Now, last I recall, Cloud and Tifa never made any promises to each other under the skyless roof of Midgar. Or Zack and Tifa. Or Sephiroth and Tifa. They never had the chance.
But Aerith and Zack... as young sweethearts, doe-eyed and in love... much higher possibility, in my opinion.
The dialogue in the beginning goes as so:
Like a white cloud drifting through azure skies.
As we peered skywards through the rafters of a heavenless of Midgar--
--we made a promise.
And that was the last time we spoke.
Wingless - August 14, 2005 02:52 PM (GMT)
Awww, thank you for Aerith's opening monologue, Lynn. ^_^
I always viewed the quote as all four of them are bound to affect each other in a powerful way. The four of them are intertwined together in a way they cannot escape, hence, by fate or destiny (which is inescapable).
Tifa is only intertwined with Cloud's destiny. She has really no part in Sephiroth's or Zack's except remotely, in the fact that she knew both of them in the past (briefly) and Sephiroth uses her to screw Cloud up. But that still connects her more to Cloud than it does to Sephiroth.
Aerith is the only one who affects all three men in a profound way. Zack, she is probably his first real love. Cloud, she heals with her love and devotion and happiness, and she also becomes his reason to fight. Sephiroth, she thwarts his plans in a profound way.
So Aerith is the one whose destiny is intertwined with the three men. ^_^
Schala - August 15, 2005 12:50 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE |
| Tifa is only intertwined with Cloud's destiny. She has really no part in Sephiroth's or Zack's except remotely, in the fact that she knew both of them in the past (briefly) and Sephiroth uses her to screw Cloud up. But that still connects her more to Cloud than it does to Sephiroth. |
Maybe that's why I liked Aeris more than Tifa... I really do look forward to Crisis Core, though I hope that it'll be more than the Nibelheim incident. But Aeris doesn't have that much interaction with Sephiroth, does she?
Anastar - September 14, 2005 11:43 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Schala @ Aug 15 2005, 12:50 AM) |
| But Aeris doesn't have that much interaction with Sephiroth, does she? |
Aerith still had a large impact on Sephiroth's destiny, regardless of how much or how little she talked with him. ;)
Schala - September 15, 2005 11:54 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE |
| Aerith still had a large impact on Sephiroth's destiny, regardless of how much or how little she talked with him. |
That's true, but I wish they could've talked more, maybe met before the events of ff7... But too bad that never happened. Still, Aeris is connected to three guys :D .
White*Mage - October 1, 2005 03:03 AM (GMT)
Sorry guys to burst all of our bubbles..........but have you guys read the latest EGM?
You guys should since they talk about CC and all the characters that are going to be part of CC. Read it guys...mmmKay. :fangirl:
Kaldea - October 1, 2005 03:20 AM (GMT)
They based their facts on Last Order and not on anything else since there are no known details. I actually have two of that issue now.
The woman's voice at the beginning of the trailer is Aeris's apparently. And she speaks of a promise made in Midgar with a certain man who is best thought of as Zack since he is the main character. Cloud nor Tifa made a promise in Midgar. The only people who could have was Zack and Aeris.
Schala - October 1, 2005 05:06 PM (GMT)
What did EGM say about CC? I hope they're wrong because Last Order was far from satisfactory.
Elayne - October 1, 2005 05:24 PM (GMT)
I do not have the EGM magazine either. What does it say about Crisis Core?