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Carmencita - April 12, 2005 12:18 PM (GMT)
Have you ever loved a pairing that almost got you stoned by the masses because not only is it non-canon, but also weird and kind of disturbing for some people? And do you still love the coupling even though it won't ever ever happen ever? (ah, redundancy)

Well, join the club if ya did and still do. :D

I am, personally, a Rufus/Tifa fan, and I've come to meet some people who look at me strangely for even mentioning it. :rolleyes: Other than that, I also like Zack/Yuffie, Reno/Elena, and Sephiroth/"Female-turk-who-looks-like-Lucrecia", and Lulu/Auron (oh, sadness), and Ansem/Malefecent (hahah!) and, just for the fun of it, Sabin/Rachel (can anyone beat that? HUH?!)

Limits: FF and KH
Oh yeah, just a rule: You must acknowledge that the coupling is non-canon, but still like it anyway.... so don't insist fanatically that it is. :whistle:

Well, that's it. :whistle: *gets off soap box before a rock hits her*

Members! (tell me if I misspell your name)
Kusari Yarou
Hyper-Ballad
Materia Thief
Tifa Lockheart
Seii_Monogatari
Sefie
Cloud's Girl
Cloud Gainsborough
~Hopeful Angel~
Madame Battoli
~Fury_Brand~
Scahla

Kusari Yarou - April 12, 2005 02:23 PM (GMT)
I'm joining the club!
I have recently 'converted' to Rufus and Tifa. It all started when I found a fanart of them and my brother pointed at it and said "Uy bagay sila! "("Hey, they look good together!")Then I thought “Hey yeah…” and started looking for Tifa/Rufus sites(is Stigmatized the only Tifa/Rufus site out there?), fics, fanarts, you name it. ^_^
I also liked Vincent/Yuffie for a while but got tired of how fanfic writers always turned OOC. Now I just read humor-romance fics about them...less chance of Yuffie morphing into a wailing, crying sap :sad:
In FF8, I read this fanfic where Quistis and Seifer had some chemistry going on and tried looking for other fics involving the couple. Unfortunately, there are very few quality fics about them….most are fluffy angstfests or teacher/student smut. Sighhh.
In FFT, I always thought the protagonist, Ramza, was sorely lacking a love interest even though he'd make a perfect 'romantic hero' So I started shipping Ramza/Agrias, even if she's 5 years older than he is. The fics about them are really quite beautiful. ;)

Hyper-Ballad - April 12, 2005 08:11 PM (GMT)
Ah, brilliant! I'd love to join!

Some off-canon pairings I like very much (and I think I can provide reasonable justification for all of them) are (hold onto your stomachs)...

FFVI
Celes/Sabin
Celes/Setzer
Kefka/Terra
Locke/Rachel
Terra/Cyan
Terra/Edgar
Terra/Leo
Terra/Shadow

FFVII
Aeris/Reeve
Aeris/Sephiroth
Aeris/Tifa
Aeris/Tseng
Barret/Tifa
Cloud/Elena
Cloud/Yuffie
Elena/Tseng (not exactly off-canon, but it nothing really came of it, either...)
Hojo/Lucrecia
Reno/Elena
Tifa/Rude
Tifa/Sephiroth
Tifa/Vincent

FFVIII
Fuujin/Seifer

FFIX
Amarant/Freya
Kuja/Garnet
Kuja/Hilda

FFX
AuronxLulu
AuronxBraskaxJecht (don't ask...) :lol:

Anyway, if anyone wants to question my reasoning on some of these pairing, feel free. I'm in quite a talky mood right now.

I'm really interested to hear more about RufusxTifa, zhakeena. It's not a pairing I really have much against (except "Sanguine Depths", ugh), but it isn't a pairing I support very much either, probably because I don't have a very good understanding of it. I'd love to hear you tell me what you love about the RufusxTifa pairing, what you think the relationship would be like, why you believe they're compatible, why they'd be good for one another and make each other happy and why you think their feelings would be strong enough to overcome the past. I love hearing people talk about pairings they love, so I'm all ears, and very eager to hear your opinion! Convert me! ^_^

Materia Thief - April 12, 2005 11:38 PM (GMT)
I want to join!
Let's see:

FFVII-
Vincent/Yuffie
Rufus/Tifa
Reno/Tifa
<there's TONS more, none that I can remember right now. ^^;;;>

FFVIII-
Seifer/Quistis (There's some good fics, Kusari Yarou. I could point you out to a few. ^_^)

FFX-
Auron/Rikku
Auron/Lulu

KH-
I'm partial to the Leon/Yuffie pairing. ^_^

And about Rufus/Tifa:
This pairing I just found...interesting. I think the thing that first attracted me to it were two people who I knew (and still know) that mirror the characters EXACTLY. The girl that resembles Tifa was even in an erm..."interesting" love triangle, with a guy she liked and a girl who she was pretty close friends with. :ermm: ANYWAY, when these two met, they hated each other immediately, but they just couldn't forget about the first impression given. It was so very odd (and yes, they are together. They've been together for quite a few years now and are very happy ^_^). :lol:

Here's one of my reasons-
1. Tifa, as she's watching the chopper descend to the President's office says a line. Something akin to, "I wonder what sort of person he is... " (I can't quite remember the exact quote, I'll look it up later.). Knowing how much Tifa HATES Shinra and all it's done to her and the rest of the people of the slums, it's interesting how come she still wonders what the person inside Rufus is like. I'm sure she's heard many rumors about Rufus, but she still tries to consider the person behind the facade. This might just be what Tifa does for everyone, but considering the stereotyping she might've done for everything Shinra (which is rather justified actually. ^^;;;;), there's always the chance that she sees him 'different' from all the others.

I'll provide more later. ^_^ I'm sure Zhakeena or Tifa Lockheart can post much better reasonings then mine however. They even own the fansite 'Stigmatized'. ^_^

Carmencita - April 13, 2005 07:09 AM (GMT)
QUOTE
I have recently 'converted' to Rufus and Tifa. It all started when I found a fanart of them and my brother pointed at it and said "Uy bagay sila! "("Hey, they look good together!")Then I thought “Hey yeah…” and started looking for Tifa/Rufus sites(is Stigmatized the only Tifa/Rufus site out there?), fics, fanarts, you name it.


Owsss...? :rolleyes: Who did the fan-art? I'm curious, but I got a good idea who the artist is... heheh.... :devil:

And, so far, methinks we're the only Rufus/Tifa fansite owners thus far, although there are quite a number of Rufus/Tifa writers and doujinshii artists out there (at least, I've been told). We're even planning to have an official fanlisting of some sorts; if only we know how exactly to go about it! :lol:

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In FFT, I always thought the protagonist, Ramza, was sorely lacking a love interest even though he'd make a perfect 'romantic hero' So I started shipping Ramza/Agrias, even if she's 5 years older than he is. The fics about them are really quite beautiful. wink.gif


Cool! An FFT player! ^^ But I liked Mustadio/Agrias from the start. As for Ramza, well, I enjoy reading a romance fic with him and any other female (except for his sister, that is... still not that open-minded, sorry!) but I enjoy Ramza/Meliadoul best. Hahah. :rolleyes:

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I'm really interested to hear more about RufusxTifa, zhakeena. It's not a pairing I really have much against (except "Sanguine Depths", ugh), but it isn't a pairing I support very much either, probably because I don't have a very good understanding of it. I'd love to hear you tell me what you love about the RufusxTifa pairing, what you think the relationship would be like, why you believe they're compatible, why they'd be good for one another and make each other happy and why you think their feelings would be strong enough to overcome the past.


Ah! Explanation! :D Well, I'm not very organized right now, so forgive me...
Well, obviously, I liked Cloud/Aerith from the start but I felt bad that Tifa is pretty much alone in the game. I tried reading Cloti, but I really can't enjoy it! There are many interesting males in the game, I know, but none of them fit with Tifa very well.

Now, Rufus is a character that caught my interest even before I played the game. I've heard of the concept of Rufus/Reno even though I didn't have an idea who they were. I kind of thought that Rufus is an old business man type. :lol: Imagine my surprise when I saw him first time in the game! He wasn't an old man at all, but rather, like Seifer Almasy of FF8. I mean, the hair-flip and everything...

Then one day, Tifa Lockheart (my cousin, I mean) suddenly blurts out, "Hey, Rufus and Tifa look good together!"

Tifa reminded me very much of Quistis Trepe emotionally. And Rufus is this Seifer type who is probably more arrogant than your average.... and Rufus is the so-called villain, which made things more interesting! Gears in my brain started to tick. As I got to know their characters better--you know, Tifa, who is sort of an emotional wreck, and Rufus who feels no emotion at all--I started to think that hey, maybe they'd be good together! Ah, if only it were possible.... :P

I don't have a say about the past, though. At the beginning, Tifa hated ShinRa in general and not Rufus as an individual. But I don't know what to say about the Execution thing, except that Rufus didn't intend it to be personal; he did that because Tifa was from AVALANCHE, and he was the leader of ShinRa. (Ah, the conflict of two people's union separated by two worlds. I love stories involving that)

I got more reasons and major speculations of possibilities of 'them' from the game, but I can't think of all of them right now.

Oh, but this is a good one that Materia Thief mentioned! ^_^

QUOTE
1. Tifa, as she's watching the chopper descend to the President's office says a line. Something akin to, "I wonder what sort of person he is... " (I can't quite remember the exact quote, I'll look it up later.). Knowing how much Tifa HATES Shinra and all it's done to her and the rest of the people of the slums, it's interesting how come she still wonders what the person inside Rufus is like.


;)

Tifa Lockheart - April 13, 2005 10:02 AM (GMT)
I'm definitely joining this club. :devil:
Here are my weird choices. Prepare to be shocked/mortified/horrified:

RachelxSabin
RufusxTifa
ZackxYuffie
Riku (or even Kadaj)xSamara (okay, people are going to stalk me now... =_=')
PainexBaralai
RikkuxGippal
PainexGippal
LuluxAuron (BLAH! I DON'T CARE ABOUT WAKKA!!! @o@')
RenoxElena
TifaxSephiroth
TifaxVincent
LockexCeles (is this unorthodox? O_o' I'm not really sure)
RikkuxWakka
QuistisxSeifer
FuujinxRaijin
ZellxSelphie
XuxNida (mwahaha) XD
ScarletxReeve

I might add onto these later on when I think of something else. Mwahaha :devil:

Kusari Yarou - April 13, 2005 11:38 AM (GMT)
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As for Ramza, well, I enjoy reading a romance fic with him and any other female (except for his sister, that is... still not that open-minded, sorry!) but I enjoy Ramza/Meliadoul best. Hahah. 

Ugh, Ramza/Alma, blech! I'm even more open-minded to yaoi than incest.
I love Ramza and I always thought it was a shame that a such noble, selfless character like him never had a love interest. :ermm: So I'm partial towards Ramza/Agrias, but any romance fic with Ramza in it is usually good(erm, as long as its not incest or a plotless hump-fest with Delita <_< )

Quistis/Seifer intrigued me because of their opposing personalities... Seifer is so arrogant, Quistis is so reserved outside but somewhat emotionally confused inside. I always thought that Quistis is perfectly capable of reining in Seifer's arrogant attitude and stuff like that...flangst, flangst, flangst ;)
...I'd appreciate the fic recommendations, Materia Thief :D

Barret/Tifa? Mwehehe, well at first I thought they were married and made a funny pair. I thought they were a couple who owned 7th Heaven and ran Avalanche and raised their daughter Marlene. I even thought "Why is this woman hitting on Cloud when her husband is right there?!" :lol:
But that's the closest I ever came to ever liking the pairing.

QUOTE
XuxNida (mwahaha) XD

Hey yeah...why not? ;)

Materia Thief - April 13, 2005 11:45 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Kusari Yarou)
...I'd appreciate the fic recommendations, Materia Thief

Seii Monogatari - April 14, 2005 05:39 AM (GMT)
I'll join!! ^_^

Cloud/Yuffie
Elena/Tseng (I like them, and if Hiiper says it's questionable ... :whistle: )
Reno/Tifa
Fuujin/Seifer
Tidus/Rikku (Tuna is my fave, tho)
Ruby/Blank
Kingdom Hearts? ... er ... Well, Riku and Kairi would work, I guess. :unsure:

Carmencita - April 18, 2005 12:55 PM (GMT)
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Tidus/Rikku (Tuna is my fave, tho)
Ruby/Blank


Cool, Seii! ^_^ Ruby/Blank! Heheh... Those two were pretty interesting characters, ne? Blank was pretty cool (in my opinion, cooler than Zidane.... man he annoys me), even though he had that funky skin thing...

Heheh, Tuna...... :P I like Tuna.

QUOTE
I love Ramza and I always thought it was a shame that a such noble, selfless character like him never had a love interest. So I'm partial towards Ramza/Agrias, but any romance fic with Ramza in it is usually good(erm, as long as its not incest or a plotless hump-fest with Delita )


Amen, amen..... XD I hate Ramza/Delita. I can't believe they degraded Delita like that! He was one of the coolest friend-turned-villain characters EVER!

Sefie - April 19, 2005 06:19 PM (GMT)
Teehee, KujaxGarnet anyone?

I also like AerisxTseng, AerisxZack, Barrifa, Zelphie, and WakkaxRikku

Carmencita - April 20, 2005 12:36 PM (GMT)
Cool, Zelphie! XD I thought it was canon at first, and was pretty disappointed to find out that it wasn't. Oh well.

Kaldea - April 20, 2005 04:53 PM (GMT)
I'll join. I have some messed up ideas, but then again, don't we all? :lol:

Cecil/Rydia
Aeris/Vincent
Aeris/Tifa (something about the thought that Tifa is using Cloud to get to Aeris appeals to me) :whistle:
Rufus/Tifa
Reno/Tifa
Zack/Tifa
Reeve/Elena
Quistis/Seifer
Fuujin/Seifer
Lulu/Auron

I have more but I'll post them later. :lol:


Materia Thief - April 20, 2005 10:55 PM (GMT)
:lol: Tifa/Aeris. While that idea DOES appeal to me, the whole "yuri/shoujo-ai" aspect kinda turns me off. :lol:

I <3 your sig though CG. ^_^

Hyper-Ballad - April 20, 2005 11:54 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Sefie)
Teehee, KujaxGarnet anyone?

Hehe, I have to admit I'm quite a fan of this pairing, though recently I've began to like the idea of Kuja/Hilda very much... :whistle:

QUOTE (Cloud's Girl)
Aeris/Tifa (something about the thought that Tifa is using Cloud to get to Aeris appeals to me) :whistle:

If you don't mind, I'm really interested in hearing more about your thoughts on this. Care to elaborate?

Aeris/Tifa has long been a much-loved favourite of mine - I normally don't go anywhere near slash-pairings and most yuri pairings seem to be excuses for hentai, but this is a coupling that really interests me, and that I think could work well. This is a pairing that I can actually see happening (sort-of), and that both girls are very compatable, and compliment each other beautifully by being strong where the other is weak. I imagine that if these two hooked up, they'd have a very healthy, happy and beautiful relationship. And yes, it would be very, very sexy. :whistle:

:bff:

Cloud Gainsborough - April 21, 2005 05:22 AM (GMT)
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Riku (or even Kadaj)xSamara (okay, people are going to stalk me now... =_=')


Noooo.... I'm gonna agree with you.



Alright, I'll just tell you my favorite "unorthodox" pairing because I'm tired. Prepare to be disturbed........


.....Aerith/Yuna/Rikku/Selphie/Tifa/Elena/Garnet/Terra/Celes/Paine!!!!111


Woah, it's either one serious Love Triangle (Love god-knows-what), or a seriously beered-up party....

Kusari Yarou - April 21, 2005 05:29 AM (GMT)
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.....Aerith/Yuna/Rikku/Selphie/Tifa/Elena/Garnet/Terra/Celes/Paine!!!!111

...it's :wacko: :blink: :wacko: a love decagon!

So we're talking slash pairings now? Cloud/Sephy is a very popular one...although fics about the are more PWP than fluffy(but then again, who could make a fluffy fic with Sephiroth?!)

Bloodbath - April 21, 2005 05:30 AM (GMT)
This is interesting. :lol: I'll sign up, ya?

Well...

ZellxSelphie
RenoxTifa
RufusxTifa (meep! >_< I don't know which to pick!)
VincentxTifa (in real life... would never work)
LeonxYuffie
TsengxElena (dunno if this is canon...)

I really thought that Zell and Selphie were canon before, but then I found out it's acutally Irvine. :o Biiiig shock there.

Truthfully, I'm not into slash pairings... :ermm:

Kusari Yarou - April 21, 2005 05:46 AM (GMT)
I liked Zell/Selphie at first but I realized that Irvine is muuuuch better for Selphie!

Cloud Gainsborough - April 22, 2005 05:20 AM (GMT)
Stupid question........... what's a slash pairing?

Kaldea - April 22, 2005 05:36 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Materia Thief @ Apr 20 2005, 04:55 PM)
:lol: Tifa/Aeris. While that idea DOES appeal to me, the whole "yuri/shoujo-ai" aspect kinda turns me off. :lol:

I <3 your sig though CG. ^_^

Thank you! :lol:

And Aeris/Tifa appeals to me because of how the majority is so stuck on either Cloud/Aeris or Cloud/Tifa. It would be awesome just to see Tifa suddenly falling for Aeris. The least expected result of the love triangle. Imagine the worldwide shock? :lol: Although the only downside is that there would be a huge increase of male interest in FFVII. :rolleyes:

I usually don't have a problem with same sex pairings. As long as they are done with love and not just to turn yourself on. Like porn. <_< I'd honestly support Aeris/Tifa completely.

And I think slash is same sex pairings? :unsure:

Materia Thief - April 22, 2005 06:21 AM (GMT)
Yep, slash means same-sex pairings.

I think what I meant with my comment on the yuri/shoujo-ai aspect, was that most of the time, if there was an Aeris/Tifa relationshp, most people (a.k.a. perverted fanboys) would probably interpret the relationship as well, equivalent, to pornography. While I have seen well written shounen-ai stories, I've seen only about one or two well written shoujo-ai stories that portrayed the romance instead of mindless sex.

They do make interesting counterparts though. And yes, the reaction of Cloud would be priceless. :lol:

Sefie - April 22, 2005 06:10 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Kusari Yarou @ Apr 21 2005, 05:46 AM)
I liked Zell/Selphie at first but I realized that Irvine is muuuuch better for Selphie!

Yeah, I DEFINATLY agree(I'm a huge Selvine fan) but I still think Zelphie's cute


And um, I'm not going to comment on slash pairings :puke:

Carmencita - April 23, 2005 02:25 AM (GMT)
Slash. :D It really depends. I don't like 'canon-slash'--you know, hugely popular slash pairings/triangles such as Cloud/Sephy/Zack (ick) but I find other pairings amusing, such as Rufus/Sephiroth? :lol:

Not much into female/female though. The first I read had Tifa, Aerith and Yuffie in the Gold Saucer.... doing things..... :puke: Goodness.

But I'm not old enough to read most slash fics anyway. :huh:

QUOTE
I really thought that Zell and Selphie were canon before, but then I found out it's acutally Irvine.  Biiiig shock there.


Yep. That had me depressed for a while, especially since I wasn't very fond of Irvine.... :sad:

Kusari Yarou - April 23, 2005 05:53 AM (GMT)
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But I'm not old enough to read most slash fics anyway. 

Speaking of underage, the majority of slash readers and slash writers are not old enough to be writing or reading these fics! My gay friend once said that he was pissed at most yaoi writers because they get his bodily functions all mixed up :puke:

Materia Thief - April 23, 2005 06:49 AM (GMT)
Sadly enough, most writers of "mature" rated stories (i.e. lemons, etc.) ARE underage. As are most readers, which really makes me worried about the state of morality these days. <_<

Kaldea - April 23, 2005 08:26 AM (GMT)
Society is giving into hormonal urges and congratulating themselves on doing it more and more now. Expect it to get even worse. Anyone who does find a problem with it is considered to be merely "unpopular" or just "can't get any". Even though there are more wannabes who are acting like the do have some kind of non-existant sex life as if it actually means something to their social status. <_<

Seii Monogatari - April 23, 2005 08:34 AM (GMT)
Lemon = blarg. :puke:

I got a very bad impression of it when a dear, dear (criminally INSANE) friend of mine sent me a link to a Cid x Yuffie's Chocobo fic. Words will never be able to explain how disturbed I was, and am, after reading that. >_<

And see? The author obviously hadn't experienced chocobo-sex, so they were writing the fic without understanding what it's like! :rolleyes:

Man, I'm just too tired. Am I still making sense? :huh:

Kaldea - April 23, 2005 08:35 AM (GMT)
...If you have to write about chocobos having sex, you need to learn what "outside" means. <_<

Seii Monogatari - April 23, 2005 08:40 AM (GMT)
I know what you mean!! :lol: Go outside, get some REAL birds, and then write about your sick experiences!! :rolleyes:

(Seii misinterpreted what you said, ne?)

EDIT: BTW, it wasn't Cid's chocobo and Yuffie's chocobo, it was CID with Yuffie's chocobo. Cid x Chocobo.

Kaldea - April 23, 2005 08:41 AM (GMT)
Nah, you pretty much got it. Just as long as they go outside. :lol:

Seii Monogatari - April 23, 2005 08:42 AM (GMT)
Yeesh. Cid x Chocobo ACTIONZ!!! OMG DEY IZ CANNONZZ!!!

Kaldea - April 23, 2005 08:48 AM (GMT)
*Falls down laughing*

Screw human couples, itz all abot da CHOCOBOZZZZ!!1`

Seii Monogatari - April 23, 2005 09:02 AM (GMT)
Oh god ...

QUOTE (Backyard Chocos XXX)
"Kweh?" said the yellow chocobo, preening her feathers.  She nervously clawed at the ground with her talons, leaving track marks there.
"Kweh," responded the black chocobo in a low chirp.
"... Kwe-kweh?  KWEH!!"
"Kweh? KWEH!! KWEH!!"
"Kweh ... kweh ... kweh!"
"Kweh ... k ... kweh ... "
"Kweh!  Kwe-kwe-kweh!!"
(continue random "kweh"ing noises until completely insane)


My new favorite pairings are ...

Cloud x Gold Chocobo
Aeris x Pink Chocobo
Yuffie x Green Chocobo
Cid x Blue Chocobo
Vincent x Black Chocobo
Red XIII x Red Chocobo
Barret x Moogle
Cait Sith x The Mog
Tifa x Ruby WEAPON

... ohmigawd ...

Kusari Yarou - April 23, 2005 04:29 PM (GMT)
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Cid x Yuffie's Chocobo fic. Words will never be able to explain how disturbed I was, and am, after reading that.

Gawd...that reminds me of a fic I once read about a Malboro doing "things" to Cloud. Poor, poor Cloud!!! All those tentacles :puke:
People's minds can get really sick sometimes.

Sefie - April 23, 2005 04:38 PM (GMT)
QUOTE
EDIT: BTW, it wasn't Cid's chocobo and Yuffie's chocobo, it was CID with Yuffie's chocobo. Cid x Chocobo.


:o ....
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Materia Thief - April 23, 2005 05:49 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Seii)
My new favorite pairings are ...

Cloud x Gold Chocobo
Aeris x Pink Chocobo
Yuffie x Green Chocobo
Cid x Blue Chocobo
Vincent x Black Chocobo
Red XIII x Red Chocobo
Barret x Moogle
Cait Sith x The Mog
Tifa x Ruby WEAPON


I suddenly feel very queasy. :puke:

Bloodbath - April 24, 2005 05:05 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Materia Thief @ Apr 23 2005, 05:49 PM)
I suddenly feel very queasy. :puke:

::twitch:: :puke:


Think about the children here, people! :puke: What kind of freaky cross-breeds will they turn out to be?! ::runs to a corner and cries:: :sad:

Seii Monogatari - April 24, 2005 07:43 AM (GMT)
Seii's fault. I'll try and get back on topic.

...

What were we talking about again? :unsure:

(lol)

Kaldea - April 24, 2005 03:31 PM (GMT)
Weird couples.

I'd say that's pretty on topic. :lol:




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