Well, as expected the sixth instalment of the Potter series is coming out in 100 days more... :woot:

Curiously, while I was surfing around for rumors and information about the upcoming book, I stumbled into the ever-famous Potter "ship wars", which is another word for pairing wars. I didn't know pairing wars existed in the Potterverse...

Somehow the situation seems familiar to FFVII's LT debates. Only this time its Hermione in the center of the triangle, and both ships are trying to prove that the person Hermione likes is either Harry/Ron. And like FFVII's LT debates, there's the supposedly 'canon' ship (manifestated in JKR interviews, scenes in the movies, and evidence from the book), Ron/Hermione. Then there is the underdogs, Harry/Hermione.

The Harry/Hermione fans are scarily aggresive and stubbornly ignores all the interviews from JKR. The rely heavily on the books, look too deep into the lines and point out absurd evidences that are twisted for their own satisfaction. Reminds us of a certain pairing here in the FFVII world, eh?

But unfortunately, I'm also a fan of Harry/Hermione. :whistle:

With the new book coming out soon, both sides are as active as ever, each thinking that their ships will emerge as the winner in the next two books. Personally, I think they should just drop all this ship wars thing and just concentrate on the plot.

This is Harry Potter, a worldwide children novel. Not an episode of The O.C. <_<



P.S: Am I posting in the right section here?? If it's inappropriate, please shift this thread. :D

HarryxHermionexRon? Pssah, HermionexDraco all the way ... :wub:

(I'm nuts! XDXD)

:lol:

Ehh...I never really payed attention to the HP pairing wars anyway. I remember the Evangelion pairing wars...Shinji x Rei and Shinji x Asuka, with Shinji x Asuka coming out on top in the end (for obvious reasons if you've seen Death, Rebirth and EoE). Gawd...now THOSE wars were almost as scary as the LTD at FFA or ACF. :lol:

But anyway, getting back on topic. I want to see what's going to happen next, but seeing as how I hated Harry's constant angsting, whining and blaming of everyone else, but himself in the 5th book, I'm not sure of how much more I can stand of the series if the 'quality' (or how I percieve it) keeps dropping.

I will continue to read because I'm obsessed. I remember in 5th and 6th grade alone I must've read those books at least 3-6 times EACH. I was strange. I still pick one up from time the time.

Bottom line: I've invested too much time in those books to give them up!!

Bottom Line Additions: Plus, the other characters are still okay ... And if you think about it, Harry went through an aweful lot, and he's really doing fairly well under the circumstances he was placed under.

Hermione/Draco?!!! Good....Lord...
Sorry Seii. I just...Hermione/Draco...:no: :no: :no:

Yes, yes Aprillis, thank you so much for pointing that out! I am a Ron/Hermione fan and I have always felt that there was so much evidence in favor of them and am indignant whenever Harry/Hermione fans do that twisting-of-the-evidence thing. Yeah, a lot of them are very much like Cloti!
And very noble of you to point that out even if you're a Harry/Hermione fan! *gives Aprillis a flower*:gift:

Angsty Harry is...sexy.
At least to me :blush:
No, seriously, the poor boy has been through so much already. In book 5, he lost the closest thing he ever had to a father! :sad: It's about time he snapped. It's about time his angst spills ovr. Just like a certain bishounen I know :cloud:

All right, back on the topic, does anyone really want to know a HUGE revelation from the Half-Blood Prince that has been so craftily hidden in Order of the Phoenix? I mean, a revelation so big, it's scary. Then follow this here linky-poo :D
Harry Potter: The Secret Chapter
So...what do you think?

:D Yeah. Nothing's gonna change my love for Harry.

I kinda understand why he snapped. Holding back all those emotions, if it was me I'd go insane already. Everytime that happens I'm just gonna refer to him as CAPLOCKS!Harry.

I've noticed the Longbottoms part, but not the whole story behind it. And I thought it was pretty weird for their parents to be giving Neville chewing-gum wrappers all the time...

I lost it there around the code-breaking part... :unsure:

Holy crap! JKR can't be THAT intelligent to make something like that... but that explains why she took a long time writing OotP compared to the others.

Oh, the crazy, CRAZY Potter 'ship wars...

I know exactly how you feel, though. Hermione/Ron has been much more hinted at and has more solid evidence... but I am a Haryy/Hermione shipper. I swear, I just confuse myself! :lol:

But yes, Potter ship wars and FF7 ship wars are a lot alike.

Yeah, we still can't help hoping though... the last two books might do a 180 degree turn... :ph43r:

In that case, I’m gonna have to make a Clorith-like statement and say “Why would JK herself contradict all the Ron/Hermione hints that she’s been giving us over the years?” ^_^

You're crushing my hopes, Kusari! :lol:


By the way, I noticed that there is no Harry Potter club around here... I'm thinking about starting one :) ... I could use some help, though. :unsure:

LOL!! I'm starting to read that essay, will post again or edit when I'm done ... And I think Harry & Hermione fanart is cute, but it's really Hermione x Ron, I think ... I just like my Draco x Hermione for teh kinkay fanfics ... :blush:

BTW, I saw the book cover, looks interesting. Is green, and a bit plainer than the other ones, but it's got Harry and Dumbledore stanbding about what looks like the Pensieve or summat ... hm ...

EDIT: That was weird ... and interesting ... and oddly enough, actually does make some sense ... hm ... will see ...

EDIT: Oh the crazy fandom pairings ... :rolleyes:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...ssPageName=WDVW

What does it take to start one? I could give you that help...just tell me in what form :angel:

I never really noticed RonxHermione til the movies came out :blush: But then when I re-read GoF I noticed how jealous Ron was getting and...eheh...ILUVTHATCOUPLE!
There's Sefie's two cents

Edit: wait I lied! I've got a question! In GoF at the beginning it says that Tom Riddle was murdered with his parents. But Tom Riddle is Voldemort, and I assumed that the pale boy with black hair is Voldemort so...wtf?

Edit 2: *reads essay*....wtf? That made NO sense! How did the author figure that out!? How does this code work!? AAUUUGH!

I am not quite sure how the code works. I think the author had lots of background knowledge in cryptology
However notice the letters of the secret message. All the letters are in the phrase Droobles Best Blowing Gum. If that's just a coincidence, what an utterly amazing coincidence!
If this essay is on the right track, Mrs Longbottom has been giving Neville the gum wrappers in hopes that he will rearrange the letters to form the message.
Dunno if poor Neville will figure this one out :lol:

Here's the answer to your question Sefie. The pale boy with black hair is Voldemort, also known as Tom Riddle Junior. The Tom Riddle who was murdered is Tom Riddle Senior(Voldermort's father). The parents of Tom Riddle Senior are Tom Riddle Junior's grandparents
Tom Riddle Senior, a Muggle, abandoned his wife and their son when he found out that she was a witch. He returned to live with his elderly parents. A few years later, Tom Riddle Junior., furious at the way his father treated him, murdered the three older Riddles.

Sefie, breath and calm down. Tom Riddle wasn't killed with his folks, he was raised in an orphanage. The guy who dies at the begining is the gardner of the family that used to live there, that was killed by Voldemort. That family was Tom Riddle's family. Voldemort's name is Tom Riddle and so is his father. He killed him and all the others because he left his mom when she told him she was a witch (yup, he's a muggle, a stupid one). Got it?

Now, that code is a very hard code about taking off letters and making sentences. You give each word some points and, after making sentences with the words you'll count your score. The fewer the better. But you do it with the info that's given to you by the book. I think this is how it works..

Well, that was very cool and all....but I don't know if thats true and...do you really think Mrs. Longbottom will hide two brooms under her dress so they can ran away from St Mungos? I don't know...and I doubt Neville would join the bubble gums letters and find a hidden meaning in it. That's just so wrong...

I really don't think JKR made that chapter. I just think that guy has tons of imagination.

Well, it was mentioned in her official site...

And the guy found out who's the Half-Blood Prince through that riddle, so I'm guessing it's partly true. A bit far-fetched, yes.

Sorry for crushing Seii's wildest dreams, but JKR has ruled out Draco/Hermione, so that's fanon. But I will vehemently disagree that she has ruled out H/Hr. No no no no...

*puts fingers in ears, ignoring Kusari's logical and canon explaination -- "But platonic friends means non-romantic --"*

I know, I like HermionexRon, I just like HermionexDraco for TEH fanfics. I believe I cleared that up already ... :rolleyes:

I don’t mind Harry/Hermione shippers. You guys are entitled to your own opinion on who’s best for Hermione…and I respect that. :angel:
What I do mind and what I can’t respect are rabid, frothing-at-the-mouth Harry/Hermione shippers- twisting JK’s interviews; twisting innocent H/Hr interactions to fit their interpretations; using Dan and Emma’s on-set chemistry as ‘evidence’; insulting poor Ron(they call him names, they pounce on his flaws, they wish he would die…sorry but Ronniekins does not deserve that! He is a wonderful character! :mad: ); insulting poor Ginny(just because she is the second greatest threat to their ship, doesn’t mean she’s a ‘slut’! :mad: )turning Hermione into some kind of weak wailing Mary Sue(I actually saw a siggy with Hermione on it that said “Oh Harry…I’m safe…with you” Excuse me while I elope with this barf bag :puke: ) and most of all, telling me that my evidence for my favorite couple are bullsh_t! I guess they aren’t very different from my reasons for hating rabid Clotis…
Whew, sorry for that long rant. I’ve just been so fed up with visiting Harry Potter forums and having the insane H/Hrs maul me and toss me out. :( ‘Cos when it comes to Ron/Hermione, well, I’ll defend it and prove it like FF_G and Aly defend and prove Cloud and Aerith. :winner:

Honestly, I do like some other pairings than HeRon, but for people to actually try and prove that they aren't obviously supposed to be together is a little wierd. It's kinda, well, OBVIOUS. But whatever. And Ron PWNs, he's one of my all-time fave charas.

And Kusari, I join you in barfing at the thought of that sig. >_<

::reads essay:: ...o_________________O"""


... ::scratches head::


::passes out:: >__________<




That was... a weird essay, Kusari. I wonder how long that poor guy took just trying to solve that... ::pity:: It seems far-fetched, but until I read the book, I'm just going to have to not believe that. ^_^ Reading is believing! :lol:

Hmmm... I'm not on here as much as most people, so could you please help me keep it updated? You have NO idea how forgetful I am! :lol: You can be the co-founder or something... :)

Plus, I am t3h n00b. :D

Updated...as in adding new members and the like? Sure, I could do that! I'm around a lot. And I have some HP anime images that we could use...

Hehe, I used to think that Harry/Hermione was cute but then I moved on to shipping Harry/Ginny after reading Chamber of Secrets and then Ron/Hermione after Goblet of Fire :lol:. I don't mind Harry/Hermione shippers since we never know what JKR has up her sleeves... just don't get me started on Harry/Cho shippers *brr* O_O (no offense on those who actually like that pairing)

Draco/Hermione seems to be pretty popular. Is it because of the fact that they dislike each other that people find interesting? Or is it for some other kinky reason :ermm:

I like Harry/Ginny too. I used to be repulsed at the thought of Harry ending up with Ron’s shy, docile little sister who had a fangirl crush on him. But after reading book 5 and then rereading books 1-4, I realized that Ginny is not shy or docile - all along, she was actually a spunky spitfire, exactly the kind of girl I would like for our bespectacled hero. And throughout the books, she was the only girl to put Harry in his place when he's fuming mad---good skill for a future girlfriend :P

There are actually Harry/Cho shippers?! Yikes!!! I am so glad Harry ditched Miss Faucets-For-Eyes at the end of Book 5. Ironically enough, Harry’s ex ran off with Ginny’s ex!

I know... Harry/Cho won't work... >_< Cho was just asking Harry about Cedric, wasn't she. Kind of reminds me of Cloti... a simple crush. XD



On another note.... 500th post!!!!!!!!!!!! :woot:

Congrats, HA!! *hugs*

Ron also wants Harry to hook up with Ginny, at the end of Order of the Phoenix, before Ginny saying she was with Dean Thomas, he said she should get someone better and looked at Harry...could this be a hint? :woot: I really like this pairing!!

Hey, how bout HarryxLuna? XD

It's a very good sign. As we've seen from the books, Ron has always been overprotective when it comes to Ginny but it seems he approves of Harry.(And why not? His best friend for his little sister) Harry now has Ron's "blessing", if you know what I mean.

I know! I was actually surprised myself. Who would've thought eh? ;)

Well, I saw fanlistings on that pairing so there must be H/C shippers ^^;

Speaking of Cho, have you seen the actress portraying her? Not exactly what I expected :( .

Yes, SJ, what about HarryxLuna? XD I think it would be hilarious... Luna in her weird, mysterious type of attitude, and Harry wondering what the hell she's talking about... ^_^ Aw... how cute! :lol:

"Well, I always thought he [Micheal] was a bit of an idiot", he [Ron] said, prodding his queen forwards towards Harry's quivering castle. "Good for you. Just choose someone - better - next time."

He cast Harry an oddly furtive look as he said it.

"Well, I've chosen Dean Thomas, would you say he's better?" asked Ginny vaguely.

"WHAT?" shouted Ron, upending the chessboard. - OoTP Page 763.

In my opinion, the chess game had Ron prodding his queen (Ginny) towards Harry, but once Ginny mentions that she has already chosen her guy, which is not Harry; Ron upends the chessboard. What could that mean?

I find that more interesting than Ron's attempts at matchmaking. But that is how I viewed that scene, so no need to spark up a debate. For all I know, it foreshadows Harry/Ginny's romance in the next book.

Harry/Ginny is pretty cute (in Book 5, at least), but I'm happier at the idea of Harry/Luna. :rolleyes: It's weird but it could POSSIBLY work.

Even H/Hr fans admit that they're more threatened by Luna's presence than Ginny.
At least Ginny has moved on, and Harry is still not interested at her. But Luna... although she may like Ron, but there's always space to turn the tables in the next two books.

If you incorporate symbolism into the books, Harry is the 'sun' whilst Luna is the 'moon'. Of course, Ron's symbol is 'water' (being Pisces and all), which I think suits Luna's 'moon' more. But I prefer Harry/Luna than Ron/Luna (ackk ><).... I can't picture Ron with any other girls beside Hermione, because he's that sort of guy.

Harry on the other hand... I can picture him with all the girls, even Pansy Parkinson.

Hmmm … JK is pretty sly at things like symbolism. I only interpreted Ron upending the chessboard at his being infuriated at the idea of his dear lil sis going out with someone other than his awesome best friend. :P

I am also wondering if a Harry/Luna romance could work. After all, they both have common backgrounds(losing someone they loved) and there was something about Harry’s heart feeling lighter after he talked to Luna about losing Sirius.
But I find it highly unlikely in the canon. Because I really think it's gonna be Harry and Ginny

I disagree, Aprillis, with your perception that Ginny moving on with other guys weakens the possibility of the Harry/Ginny romance(In fact, I disagree that she has moved on, she’s merely given up, which is a different thing). On the contrary, it reinforces it! Ginny had to get over her schoolgirl crush before Harry can really notice her. Through the past four books, we’ve only seen Ginny through the filter of her crush on Harry. Removing that allows us to see th real Ginny(who, BTW, is great), the one that we’ve only caught glimpses of for the past four books. Removing it also allows her to actually interact with Harry and form a strong friendship with him- a great foundation for any relationship.

If Harry and Ginny are indeed headed for romance, having Ginny get over her crush on Harry is the best move possible. I’m thinking that Harry, through his growing friendship with her, can finally notice her as a girl, as a friend, and not just as mah-best-friend’s-lil-sis-with-a-thang-for-me. :lol:

And we have to ask ourselves, if H/G is not gonna happen, what was the significance of having Ginny hook up with Michael Corner at the end of the Yule Ball? Why would she go out with him for one year and then break up with him (and strangely enough, he runs of with Harry’s ex, Hosepipe Eyes Chang) and then announce that she’s chosen another guy? Why would JKR chose to give Ginny and Harry a common characteristic(harrowing encounters with the Dark Lord); painstakingly hide the real Ginny through her crush on Harry; have her show her wonderful, fiery self in book 5; have her finally develop a cheerful friendship with Harry…only to have her end up with another guy?

Back to the original question: if she really did intend Ginny to end up with some other boy, say, Neville(this seems to be a popular notion), why didn’t she just hitch them during the Yule Ball and have them stay a couple till the end? It would make more sense than having her go out with other guys, only not to have her end up with the boy she had liked from the start. :ermm: I think Ginny going out with other guys is more of a plot device- either to make Harry jealous or to give her experience in dating or something...who knows? But it does not make her a slut(that's what the anti-Ginnys are calling her now), she is a fourteen-going-on-fifteen-year-old girl and it is perfectly normal :(

I’ll reserve my rant on Ron loving another girl aside from Hermione for later. This post is long enough as it is ^_^

I'm not sure... I really like Luna. She seemed weird at first, but slowly Harry finds out that she kinda has reasons to be like that...and the way everyone makes fun of her... just imagine: Harry is a hero now, respected and adored by everyone, what he says now is, kinda, unquestionable. If he hang out with Luna just to make ppl see they shouldn't mock her it'd be cute!! And he could really fall for her!! *fantasizes*

Ginny...hum...I don't think he likes her. I like the pairing, and the signs are there, but Harry doesn't feel anything than friendship for her, not even a bit of physical attraction... Meh, I don't now! :lol:

Pansy Parkinson? Uh uh, no way!! :no: Lol, that reminds me of a fic where Harry liked his new Defence Against Dark Arts teacher (she was young and pretty), still had a thing with Cho, started to hang out with Parvati and fell for a new student that was a far away niece of Snape. And all of them liked him too!! :lmao:

He likes her now, as one of his new friends. It's very possible that it could evolve into something more during the last two books. The signs are all there(see previous post...don't make me repeat them...please :D )
You think he doesn't find her physically attractive? Oh yeah? Notice the way JKR describes Ginny through Harry's eyes. "bright brown eyes", "glowing like the setting sun", "glinting in the firelight", "long mane of red/flaming hair","looking windswept" to name a few. They're rather flattering and much better-sounding than, say, "protuberant eyes and scraggly hair"(to describe Luna) or "bushy hair and rather large front teeth"(to describe Hermione).

JKR has already ruled out the possibility of Luna/Neville and as for Luna/Ron...no fuhreakin way, He.Loves.Hermione!!! To tell the truth, I really can't imagine Luna Lovegood as a girlfriend for anyone. I really like her but...

Yay! Thank you so much! :huggle: I shall go start it now. :D

And HP anime images! That's awesome! You are my new favorite person. :lol:

Well, anyway, a doujin of Hermione:

http://www.alohaanime.com/doujinshi/harryp...tterweb170a.jpg

You have a point here. This is looking through another perspective.

Yeah, I agree here. I never really liked her personality in CoS, but after she snapped out of her crush with Harry she became a better person.

Because she has realized that Harry is interested in another girl, and she decides to move on because her crush on Harry is going nowhere. Remember, after Harry confessed that he had asked Cho Chang to the ball, Ginny gets extremely upset and goes back to her room. Right after that she meets Micheal at the Yule ball and she moves on.

If you're trying to say that Micheal (Ginny's ex) getting together with Cho (Harry's ex) foreshadows a future relationship between Harry/Ginny, then I have to strongly disagree with this. The parallel between Micheal/Cho and Harry/Ginny is only possible if Harry and Ginny are both single. Apparently, Ginny has chosed Dean and Harry still does not show any feelings towards her. It is, however, safe to assume that Harry and Ginny MIGHT become a couple later on; but to say that they will get together because it parallels with Micheal/Cho is baseless evidence.

Besides, Harry/Ginny are not the only ship to have parallels. Both Hermione and Harry's respective love interests are jealous at the tight bond between them. I don't like to bring up over-used points, but I'd just like to point that out.

Well, JKR has already done that, judging by Micheal and Dean... :rolleyes:

Why would Harry forget that Ginny had been possesed by Voldermort before, it it was supposed to be an important event for both of them? Why would JKR decide to develop her character so late in the story, when she had the oppurtunity to expand her in PoA and GoF? Why make Ginny's actions all filtered and told through Hermione, Fred, George and Ron, and not through Harry's own eyes?

What? Ginny's not a slut. Just because she goes out with Micheal doesn't mean she's one. So that makes Harry a slut because he went out with Cho and broke up later, or that Hermione is a slut because Krum invited her to spend the holiday with him? Besides, Ginny wasn't really in love with Micheal. He was the wrong guy.

Ron cannot be with another person other than Hermione. To me, it's just... wrong. I cringe at the idea of Ron/Luna, Ron/Fluer, Ron/Padma... but then again, there aren't many girls to pair him up with :P . Poor Ron. He's so reserved with the girls.

I just remembered that Neville can't be the half blooded prince. :blink: Cause he's a pure blood... Duh me...

In her official site, JK Rowling gave a description of the Half Blood Prince:

She also said that the title doesn't necessarily mean that the prince is a half-blood...it might also mean that he's the prince of the half-bloods

What do you mean by "filtered through"?
BTW, we've started an HP club, if you're interested ^_^

Oh...that sounds like Dumbledore...I just mentioned Neville because of all the stuff the other guy about Neville.

Wasn't that lion-like guy given a name? What was it... can't remember...

The half-blood prince could be Godric Gryffindor. JKR said that the Half-Blood Prince chapter was supposed to be put in CoS, but taken out and relocated into HBP because it didn't go with CoS's plotline.

Harry discovers something in CoS that could be related to HBP... I can't think of anything significant except the part about pulling out the sword from Godric's hat, making Harry the heir of Gyffindor.

I wrote the phrase wrongly... sorry. What I meant is that Ginny's actions are all told through Harry's friends, as if JKR doesn't want to make people get too attached to the character.

Like Cho, JKR didn't give her a chance to develop because she was always a minor character, and when Harry/Cho were dating, Cho's behaviour was explained through Hermione and Ginny's point of view (and they weren't too helpful about it either). Cho's real reason for acting that way wasn't justified at all. In the end, Harry/Cho bombed and no one was upset about it because they weren't attached to Cho.

But Harry/Ginny has a large fan-following, and Ginny is quite popular herself. So I'm just contradicting myself... ahh. :ermm: