A day or so ago, Fatboy (Aodh); Diplomat of Tuatha de Biatach said (unkowingly, or not) that they would wnat to be in a pact where everybody (guild) is happy.

If anyone has any suggestions in the rules or actions of the Confederacy, please post them here.

He didn't say he wanted to be in a pact where everyone was happy. He said he wanted to be in a pact where everyone had a say in the writing of it. They won't accept any offers until they have a say in the details of it, so there's no point in us coming up with new ideas for it. We need to sit down with the leaders of Tuatha and work out a deal that works for everyone.

im thinking that any guild wishing to join our Confederacy they can add rules but they must be agreed on by the council of the confederacy. good?

That makes a lot of sense. Maybe put individual proposals up to a formal vote. one vote from each clan (diplomat). Of course, with oly two clans at the moment, not too useful.

Ok. That has been implimented now. Any other ideas?

Prehaps a proper constitution with clear and detailed guide lines needs to be set up, as of now the current one looks a like rushed and is'nt too informantive.

I suggest a structued constitution that outlines all aspects of the confederacy and for even further structure it should be seperated into chapters, each chapter can instruct the reader on a certain aspect of the confederacy.

Eg.

Chapter One-Diplomatic relations.

This could outline what diplomacy is manditory, such as alliances with all confederacy members and also the association or there for lack of with Rome and Rome associated guilds.

Chapter Two-Economic Requirements.

This could outline the possibility of a levy or fee for guilds in the confederacy to donate currancy or materials to a confederacy fund that could either be used by the confederacy or distirbuted to a member of the confederacy if it has fallen on hard times due to natural,economic or millitaristic events.

Chapter Three-Ecnomic Requirements II.

This could outline the responsibilities of confederacy members when foreign marchants or traders are in their territory, such as safe passage extending to within the confederacy members territory but only limited to their territory. This means that the merchant must be protected within your territory but once it leaves it becomes the responsibility of the merchants nation to maintain it's safety.

Chapter Four- Members Responsibilities.

This is similar to what I stated in the past chapter, however it could include in greater detail the requirements for shelter and protection that members must maintain when other nations in the confederacy enter their territory. This would include but be limited to their territory and only their territory, once the foreign person/s leaves the host nations boarders it is once again the responsibility of the person/s nation. This may seem uncaring or thoughtless but it prevents an unneeded burdon on members military.

Chapter Five-Laws of hospitality

This could outline proper ceremony and etiquette, wether it be bowing when greated with another confederacy member or sacrificing a certain number of animals when a diplomatic envoy enters our city.

This is just a rough draft I threw togeather, if Meth or another member wanted to I would be more than happy to assist in the development of the constitution.

You can suggest here if you wish :) Ill invite you later on in a convo so u can discuss with the others too if you like.

Don't you ever use internet slang again or I'll kick you out with my dieing breath.

Why should I no6t? That isnt Internet slang, and if it is it isnt much. Using Internet slang also isnt against Brathiar Prasgan rules. Also you are not a leader, but rather a moderator, and you would be acting unjust in the banning of a member.

To be honest text messaging or MSN slang is just as bad as the internet stuff. It pisses the hell out of me aswell and if it isn't part of our rules then I move we make it one.

Nervii has a rule not to use to much internet slang but its something that you realy cant halp dont realy think its anyones fault :S

I dont belive that I have any of Nervii's msn addresses, prehaps you could add me "bevan_ringer@hotmail.com" and we could discuss the constitution.

Good suggestion. Most, or at least some of your idea will be implemented in the future. Until game release i do not believe we can truly make a "constitution" as we do not know much of what the game will offer. Until then it will remain as a rough draught, Adding details as we go along until we have closer to the final ideas set down.


unless you were to speak in constant 1337, you won't get banned etc for using slang. Using: stf lke tha wrd tht is stopid and gai is frowned upon, quite strongly.

Well you will get kicked out for it overhere and that's it. Meth, please stop PM'ing me and acting like you're the big boss in town now. Please do remember that I have but to press a button to permanently ban you and I'm quite sure not many would object since Bthizle's gone now.

I may not be a leader anymore, and you may say what you want, I'm still an admin and I won't hesitate to confirm that by deleting you if you get even more worked up about yourself. I propose you shut up now and get back into your role. Which is, basically, doing what is told to you by the current leaders. And no "I know better than you what you are capable of and I'm in charge now" bitching anymore.

I hope I made that clear.

Ah Xenophon, I hope you see what has happend, I fortold you of it yet I do not know if you took to heart, that is why I fear for you also.

Take heed also those of the Nervii, if not careful ..... well I'll let you to find out.

Ummm Mordhak, yes you are still admin, but please don't start deleting BP members, especially without the consent of the guild!

Slang is not tolerated well here, and getting less so. If you want to make a point Mordhak give out a warning (ie via admin panel) thats what it is there for.

Now please lets get back to the topic least another one falls to the evil of spam. :preaching:


What I think would be neat is if the Nervii had a "palace" (or in the most likely case a shack) to which, when they visited they could stay at. Same with BP in Nervii's city.

Or have a diplomatic hovel, a build where diplomats and members of forgein guilds could stay during a visit.

Also building a road between our nations is a noble, smart idea. A highway which traders of our guilds and others could use.

A main road is a very good idea, but it could prove very costly and extremely time consuming to construct, another issue would be bandits. Would each guild need to post a certain number of guards to protect the merchants?

The Confederacy Council has talked of out post along the way, probally nothing ealborate, maybe like ah ut and some tool. It just popped in my mind when I read Nullisecundus worry of the econmoy ..... What if those outpost werent only guards but rather raaw resource or production facilities. Most likely they will have lumber and such though some may be near rivers with fish or metal outcroppings. Depending on the richness I guess would also depend on outpost size ... like I think those near an outcrop would be much more valuable then those dealing with lumber.

Ill present my idea at the next council meeting which should be soon.

gallic confederacy banner :P

Depending on how close we are (distance wise) we can see what level of accommodation is needed. If you are a days travel away, then a fine, large building could be made for just the purpose of housing BP members. If you are further afar, a week or few by foot away, something less elaborate would be adequate.
I do not know how far the "real time" will stretch. If trans-clan walking is real time, the 1000m will indeed take along time. A month. ;)
Councils will be held in village halls and the like, so space will be made some way or another.

Historical evidence does show that many of the "Roman" roads were made by the "barbarian" races, before the Romans paved over the wooden constructs with stone. We could well have many roads between different settlements.

Guarding the road won't be necessary a lot of the time. Who is going to steal a road..? When important items/people are travelling the road, armed warriors will go with them, so fixed guards probably won't be needed. If they pass resources (as meth said) small hamlets of a few men (and women?) may pop up. Armed guards could be at locations of significance.

Hey, thats a nice banner Cadarn *SMACK* What are you thinking?! Dont use the fanatic picture on there, for if shown in the Roma-Victor forums KFR may ask for it to be less nude, though actually it may not be much so .... we could always say hes wearing a brazilian thong, you just cant see it because his leg is blocking it B)

Thoughto more serious matters .... Though this is The Gallic Confederacy, dont you think the Germanics, Northmen, and people in hispania have their country in? ... Not just Gaul.

it was my banner :(

Oh Im sorry Invegarr, I mean I didnt *smack* *hits Cadarn again :P* You should have told me that Cadarn. Anyways, I think that the banner should include eastern Europe Gallia, Germania, Hispania, and a shippit of Brittania. Some people dont like that only Gual is in the bnner.

well it is the Gallic confederacy and britian will not be in gallic confederacy. germania is actualy on the tkp u can see that... weve got all the heritages celts germania and gallic.

I think it be more fitting if the confederacy turned into something celtic or such, I dont care if you even say "Gallic Confederacy" in celtic.

For when some people see Gallic Confederacy they may think its just for those in Gaul.

Anyone have any suggestions on a anme? Any views on changing the name?

The name is fine for now, since the gauls where everwhere (not just in france, and such).

The flag, is alright, its a good pic don't get me wrong, but I think we need a flag that has a little more power behind it (ie like traditional old flags, with a wolf head banner or some such).

Like Cadarn said armed guards that conintually patrol is not a smart idea. Yes bandits may move up and down the road, but once someone reports it then we send out a squad to dispatch them. Besides most merchants will have armed guards protecting their goods from both bandits and less honourable guilds.

That is mealy a banner, for a flag I agree. A wolf or something similar could be great. Gallic Confederacy is a fine name I think.
The banner shows at least part of every area which can take part in the confederacy. Britain is too far to realistically take part (sorry Tuatha de Biatach :unsure:) in the confederacy.

P.S. Divictus will be returning in the next week or two.

nothing wrong with the name :S but ill look into that. we chose the name because it was actualy a real confederacy

well anyways here are some in dutch

Gallisch Confederatie

Why in Dutch? :P

Anyway, does anybody know of other, large, gaul/germanic/celtic clans in the area? Or are we the only active clans of any size? (not counting Tuatha due to distance from our location.)

I think that ful clan is near us not sure tho

Fuilteach? no they are in britain.

no fulk something

Fulk af Waldus?

Another point I'd like to suggest is a toll for the road, what better way to pay for the upkeep and construction than forcing people to pay for passage.

Fulk af Mikilis .... People of the Sea.

They were once Fulk af Waldus but went under magor changes (including Capo quiting :) )

They will be in Germania.

Oh that's right he quit, meh. I knew that they became another Fulk tribe but couldn't think of the name, I remember that waldus had a shitty frontpage site though.

Good Idea. Confederacy build roads could charge anyone who is not a member of a confederacy member guild.