This topic is for the anti-gun folks

Can you tell me which one of these guns was illegal under the 1994 AWB?

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You're an obvious mouthpiece for the gun nut extremist NRA. Reasonable people don't believe that any nut should be able to own a gun like the extremist nuts at the NRA.

I understand where you're coming from on this one, Gore's the One - but I think we'd get a much more fruitful discussion out of discussing the topic rather than instulting each other.

For the sake of the question I'd guess the bottom one. I'm assuming - FellowDemocrat - that you're point is that the Gun ban made no significant difference in what guns people can own? Out of curiosity though, why in the world would anyone want to own this thing? What would someone use it for? :?:

Let's note that the violent crimerate went significantly down after the assault weapons ban...

AFAIK, the M4 was banned because it can be fired in fully auto. Could be wrong, but I think that's right.

All of the guns i posted above were legal... perfectly legal.

Well, they shouldn't be, what's the purpose????? I wouldn't want to be around someone who owned a gun like that.

Below, is a picture showing an illegal rifle and a legal rifle. The only differences are the threaded barrel, the magazine capacity, the collapsing stock, and the bayonet lug. This does not change how powerful the weapon was nor does it mention anything about the weapon being fully automatic.
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For the record, i am not a "mouthpiece for the gun nut NRA extremists." I am not a member of the NRA and actually disagree with some things they say. I am just a responsible law abiding citizen that likes guns.

There are many purposes to owning guns like these. These include:

Competition
Hunting
Target practice
Protection
Collecting
Because they're fun to shoot
etc

PROTECTION??????? A regular gun can be kept for protection. Assault weapons are for criminals. Most of the people who own them are thugs. Remember the DC snipers from a couple years ago????

You have got to be kidding me! Who needs those type of guns for hunting, protection, or any of the things you listed?

I am sorry, but I am pro-gun control. A member of my family was murdered a few years back by a person who illegally had a gun in their posession. Guns serve no purpose; none whatsoever.

Yes, protection. If you are a robber, and walk up to a house with a sign that says "Gun owners, enter with an intention to do harm and you will be shot," are you going to break into that one or the one right next to it without a sign? The answe is obvious. Not everyone lives in the perfect little neigborhoods you know.

Actually, most people that own AR-15's are law abiding citizens.

Answer me this, what makes these "Assaut weapons" so bad? Is it because of the strengh? No, because they aren't all that powerful. Or is it because certain politicians say they're bad? What exactly makes these "Assault weapons" so bad?

In addition, a "Regular gun" aka the Glock 9mm was one of the most restricted guns during the 90's... with the Brady bill.

You can easily take guns like AR's, AK's, etc hunting. Their caliber isn't all that big... and you can even get AR's in 9mm. For defense, read my prior post. For competition? Guns are big time competition items.

I'm sorry about your family member. See, Project Exile (Which i have been speaking quite often about) is a very good gun control measure. This should be implimented all over the country.

I'm sorry, but the fact is, this issue robbed us of a ton of votes in both the 2000 election and 2004.

No, that wasn't the reason why it was banned.

Like i previously stated, in order to get a fully auto gun, you have to sign a form called a "Form 4." Upon signing this, everyone and their moms get to view your history. Not to mention, that these guns are way more expensive.

It doesn't matter if people can view your history. You can be a perfectly clean guy but have a dark side that nobody knows about. Look at Scot Peterson, look at the terrorists that hijacked the planes on 9/11. Background checks may prevent some crimes, but by no means all.

Yes, it does matter because if you have anything bad at all on your history, that is a no go. In addition, whoever is doing the looking has access to anything they want about you, anything.

By the way, no one has answered my question involving why these "Assault weapons" are so bad? How exactly did the AWB stop crime? How did things like a boyonet lug (Not the actual boyonet), collapsable stock, limited amount of bullets in a mag, and threaded barrel stop crime? I don't see the logic here. The AWB only mentioned the 4 things above... not the actual strength of the weapon or about it being fully-automatic. A .44 magnum is hands down more powerful than an AR-15 and yet it wasn't banned. You ever see the movie "Dirty Harry?" let me quote Clint Eastwood in that movie:

"This is a .44 Magnum, the most powerful gun in the world. It will take a mans head clean off. let me ask you one thing, do you feel lucky? Well do ya punk!"

Good movie by the way.