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Title: So, you want to be a McCain Democrat?
Description: The perils of taking your vote elsewhere


Questions - April 3, 2008 07:41 PM (GMT)
So, you want to be a McCain Democrat?

http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editoria...ccain_democrat/

AN ALARMING number of Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton supporters are telling pollsters they won't support the Democratic ticket if their candidate doesn't win the party's nomination. This, my friends, could mean four more years of Bushist backwardness.

Look before you jump. Democrats thinking of voting for John McCain should ask themselves if they want a hot-tempered, right-wing Republican in the White House - keeping his foot on the gas in Iraq, sentencing women to illegal abortions, and pouring cement around President Bush's tax cuts for the rich.

A Republican in Republican's clothing. McCain is, my friends, a Republican, a self-described "foot soldier in the Reagan Revolution." He voted against expanding the children's health insurance program and against an assault rifle ban.

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He's the eighth-most conservative senator in Congress, after being the second-most conservative senator the preceding session.

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Can't tell Shi'ite from Shinola. Our foreign policy expert, while in Iraq, said over and over that Iran was training Al Qaeda in Iraq. No such thing is happening. Iran, a Shi'ite country, has been training and financing Shi'ite extremists, not Al Qaeda, who are Sunni insurgents. No wonder McCain says we'll have to be in Iraq for 100 years. He doesn't know who's fighting whom.

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The Supremes. The day the next president takes office, five of the nine Supreme Court justices will be over 70. John Paul Stevens will be 88; Ruth Bader Ginsburg, 75; Anthony Kennedy, 71; Stephen Breyer, 70; and, I smile as I write this, Antonin Scalia is 72.

The next president will probably pick one or two of their replacements; maybe more, if he or she is reelected. McCain, who favors the repeal of Roe v. Wade, promises conservative audiences, "We're going to have justices like [John] Roberts and [Samuel] Alito."

Mini-me and the turncoat. Would President McCain put his Senate pals on the Supreme Court, his mini-me, Lindsey Graham, or Joe Lieberman? They would sail through the Senate; senators like to confirm fellow senators.

Throwing lobbyists into the bus. McCain chairs the Senate committee that oversees the telecommunications industry. Charlie Black, McCain's lead strategist, admits to lobbying on his cellphone for his telecommunications clients on McCain's so-called Straight Talk Express bus. Campaign manager Rick Davis also on the bus, founded a lobbying firm that carries water for major telecommunications clients. At last count, a whopping 59 lobbyists are raising money for McCain.

Favorite sing-along on the bus: "99 bottles of Dom Pérignon on the wall."

Dan Payne is a Boston area media consultant who has worked for Democratic candidates around the country. He does political analysis for WBUR radio.



Just some of the reasons I will vote for Hillary if she is the nominee even though I don't support her. I won't vote for McCain and I won't not vote.

Should HRC win the nomination, which I think is not in the cards, I'll just hope and pray that we can endure her as president and that it does not put the DLC back in power. I've read that perhaps one of the biggest reasons HRC stays in the race is because of the corporate backed DLC- they fear the "uprising" of grass roots Democrats. That's an opinion and is just a viable as anyone elses and seemed an interesting twist on why HRC is even still in the race- although you would think if that was the case, HRC's campaign would be rolling in dough. I don't think Obama is the antithesis of corporate Democrats but the people he's bringing into the party likely are.

JamesAquila - April 3, 2008 07:50 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Questions @ Apr 3 2008, 02:41 PM)
it does not put the DLC back in power.

Chris Jackson who founded this site and created this forum is a member of the DLC. The continuing demonization of the DLC is exactly the kind of divisive politics that Obama is running against.

hangingchad - April 4, 2008 01:27 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (JamesAquila @ Apr 3 2008, 03:50 PM)
QUOTE (Questions @ Apr 3 2008, 02:41 PM)
it does not put the DLC back in power.

Chris Jackson who founded this site and created this forum is a member of the DLC. The continuing demonization of the DLC is exactly the kind of divisive politics that Obama is running against.

If you just listened to Obama's slogans, you would think so. But if you actually look at his ACTIONS, you'd see that he is old school, slick-n-slimey politics, all the way. That's my take on it, anyway. ...Then again, I do seem to be in a minority of ONE in this beloved Gore cybercommunity-o-mine *lol*!

:lol:

Hopefully, my take on Obama is wrong and you guys are all right. What scares me is, not to toot my own horn, because I'm the first one to be self-deprecating about all my many and varied flaws, but one thing about me is that I am usually an amazing judge of character and I can see right through someone like a laser beam. I'm telling you guys that Obama is all flash and no substance, and he will do or say whatever he feels will get him ahead. I know, I know, one could say the same about Hillary as far as the doing or saying anything to get ahead part goes. So they are even on that one, but where she pulls slightly ahead for me is on the substance part: she has some, deep down underneath all that ambition. He does not, imho.

Again, I hope and even pray that I'm wrong. But I fear I'm not.

ReElectAlGore2008 - April 4, 2008 02:20 PM (GMT)
I will NEVER vote for Hillary
A vote for Hillary is a vote for the draft to return, to bomb Iran like she voted YES on Iraq
It's 3AM and the phone rings---it's Hillary and bill's conscious bothering them for lying for 38 years now

Why would Ted Kennedy, Jimmy Carter, Bill Richardson, and soon Al Gore back Barack Obama then?

And why did Al Gore do all he could to get away from the slimey filthy Clinton dirt
in 2000? Too bad they didn't drive that steak in the Clinton's campaigns back then.

Obama/Gore 2008




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