Title: Obama's speech on race: the text
Description: Obama's speech today
Questions - March 18, 2008 05:40 PM (GMT)
Dem4ever - March 18, 2008 07:31 PM (GMT)
A truly great speech. One that lays it all out there. Not the safest speech a presidential candidate can make. It was bold, calming and presidential.
Of course, the anti-Obama people are still going to say it doesn't matter. One pundit on CNN moments ago, while saying Obama shouldn't speak for whites, turns right around and accuses him of not doing enough in this speech to eleviate white concerns. You can't win with some people.
Nonetheless, this speech is powerful and necessary for those reasonable Americans with reasonable concerns. Now if only the news outlets play the highlights of the speech as many times as they've played the footage of Rev Wright's sermons.
ap215 - March 18, 2008 08:35 PM (GMT)
Wayne in WA State - March 19, 2008 07:15 AM (GMT)
I haven't seen it all yet, but enough to know something special happened today. The fact that Barack Obama was able to compose and deliver this speech demonstrates to me a unique and powerful talent that towers over the remaining candidates.
How fantastic a Gore-Obama ticket would be... :coolwink:
TNblue - March 19, 2008 05:55 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Wayne in WA State @ Mar 19 2008, 01:15 AM) |
How fantastic a Gore-Obama ticket would be... :coolwink: |
Yes, it definitely would be.
earthmother - March 20, 2008 03:02 AM (GMT)
I thought it was an amazing speech. Obama definitely has a gift when it comes to public speaking, but more than that, he said some things that really needed to be said. Too bad if people think he shouldn't be speaking for them. I don't care if Obama grew up with certain advantages or that he wasn't completely black. He is a person of color, and he was treated as such throughout his life. Growing up with the name Barack Obama probably didn't help either. I think it's irrelevant what his own life experience is anyway. What matters is that he gave voice to problems that continue to fester in our society, and we can either choose to deal with them or continue sweeping them under the rug by trying to shoot the messenger (figuratively, of course). This was one of the best speeches I've heard in my lifetime (rivaled only by Al Gore :D ).
ReElectAlGore2008 - March 20, 2008 03:08 AM (GMT)
That is exactly what I told someone today
You gotta go back to Al's 4 or 5 speeches (esp. the NYU one on MLK Jr. day that the NY Times never covered) then you gotta go back to Dr. King's I have a dream speech.
He is not Dr. King, but sort of Dr. King's Grandson theoretically.
Sort of how Bobby Jr. or JFK. Jr. wasn't JFK or Bobby, but their son.
Gore/Obama or Obama/Gore would be the best ticket.
And then stay on message 100 percent of the time
You know, having to go off message to answer smears is a waste of time.
(if only the media would cover the important stuff.)
Dem4ever - March 20, 2008 04:16 AM (GMT)
And in all honesty, I believe the crazy buzz about Rev. Wright will dicipate eventually...if for no other reason than the media will find something else to talk to death. Sure, for now the polls will probably indicate a negative effect after all the Rev Wright media overload, but I think the polls will work themselves out...
...and pretty soon we'll all be talking about the economy again, and Iraq and national security and the environment, and the superdelegates, and so forth.
Heck, I think that's already starting to happen (except Fox News, of course, which will probably try to milk the issue for all it's worth).
ReElectAlGore2008 - March 20, 2008 09:53 AM (GMT)
the one daily poll out there, which is pretty consistant to knock out the noise(static) that appears in fluctuations shows for the most part Obama is back on the upswing, Hillary never NEVER never got over 50 percent (which has been her main problem...had she ever been over 50 all through the race, there would not be a race, but she never got higher than the upper 40s.
One would have thought if people actually liked her her poll #s by now would be 60 or 70
And the only way for Hillary is down, down, down as her numbers drop
Why just yesterday, the release of her papers show some lies she committed
in the campaign
Like she was silent during the lead-up to war
She was heavily pro NAFTA even though she lied and said she wasn't
Soon as the public hears this, she will again drop to 40 and one of these days
this race will be over for her
(whether its Gore or Obama as the nom, I see no way at all for Hillary to ever
be the nominee...she can get Obama out so to say, but no way for her to get in.
And almost all of her staff and people know it.
One good thing about the Rev. Wright is it got it out NOW instead of October.
So by then, especially as McCain has 2 preacher problems, there is no issue.
Dem4ever - March 20, 2008 05:21 PM (GMT)
"G*d Damn MSNBC," I say!
:angry:
Ugh! I just saw Contessa Brewer introduce some story about Rev. Wright receiving an honor of some sort from a Texas University.
But before she started the story, they showed about 30 seconds of the Wright footage we've already seen over and over again...then she started the story. Um, why didn't they just report the story WHILE watching silent footage of the Wright sermon? Or why not just show his picture? We all know who he is by now.
This is the kind of crap that bothers me.
earthmother - March 20, 2008 05:43 PM (GMT)
There's a new Reuters poll out today that shows Hillary on top of Obama. And there's a Reuters/Zogby poll that shows McCain at 46% and Obama at 40% when going head-to-head (at least the numbers are something like that--I don't have time to find the polls now!).
I agree that this is probably a temporary situation, but when you have MSNBC constantly picking Obama's speech apart and wondering, wistfully, if a New York cabbie will feel alienated by the things Obama said, there's bound to be an effect in the national polls. I do believe it'll turn around, though.
Dem4ever - March 20, 2008 05:48 PM (GMT)
Yeah, it'll turn around, I just hope the superdelegates wait it out and don't overreact.
By the way, just now...as Contessa Brewer was talking about a story regarding flooding in Missouri, they accidently showed a picture of Obama standing next to Wright...in the middle of a completely unrelated story.
Shows the one-track-mentality going on right now.
ALGOREismylife - March 20, 2008 09:56 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (earthmother @ Mar 20 2008, 11:43 AM) |
There's a new Reuters poll out today that shows Hillary on top of Obama. And there's a Reuters/Zogby poll that shows McCain at 46% and Obama at 40% when going head-to-head (at least the numbers are something like that--I don't have time to find the polls now!).
|
That totally sucks, but plenty of time for that to change.
I'm getting sick of this story about that pastor. What about some of the sleaze that endorsed McCain???? :angry:
ReElectAlGore2008 - March 20, 2008 09:57 PM (GMT)
Check the papers and TV
This story is already dying out
Though CBS NY had a story talking about Hillary's polls (but she is the hometown girl and CBS is backing her)
But, most states have voted, so its not like she can re-do anything, and the odds that people like Al Gore would support her are zero to none
The minnute Hillary would move into the lead theoretically I would bet that is when Gore would take about 5o superdelegates and throw his support to Obama
ALGOREismylife - March 20, 2008 10:02 PM (GMT)
CNN won't let it die, I heard something about this morning.
earthmother - March 20, 2008 10:16 PM (GMT)
It was all they were talking about this morning on MSNBC. <_<
Dem4ever - March 21, 2008 04:45 AM (GMT)
Well, now that Barack Obama's PASSPORT DATA HAS BEEN BREACHED, they can talk about that!
:wtf:
earthmother - March 21, 2008 04:47 AM (GMT)
And that's ALL they're talking about! If I were Hillary, I'd be stewing hard about all the publicity Obama's getting between the Rev. Wright thing and now this passport breach. They always say publicity is good, even when it's negative, and Obama certainly has been dominating the airwaves lately.
Dem4ever - March 21, 2008 05:07 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (earthmother @ Mar 20 2008, 10:47 PM) |
| And that's ALL they're talking about! If I were Hillary, I'd be stewing hard about all the publicity Obama's getting between the Rev. Wright thing and now this passport breach. They always say publicity is good, even when it's negative, and Obama certainly has been dominating the airwaves lately. |
I just got back from work, and only found the passport thing now. What the heck is that all about?