:?: Wow, scary!! They're still swimming around in the slime...

http://www.ecorazzi.com/2008/03/04/weather...-warming-fraud/


Pitiful.

New UN report on shrinking glaciers

Glaciers suffer record shrinkage

Some glaciers in Europe have suffered significant losses
The rate at which some of the world's glaciers are melting has more than doubled, data from the United Nations Environment Programme has shown.

Average glacial shrinkage has risen from 30 centimetres per year between 1980 and 1999, to 1.5 metres in 2006.

Some of the biggest losses have occurred in the Alps and Pyrenees mountain ranges in Europe.

Experts have called for "immediate action" to reverse the trend, which is seen as a key climate change indicator.

Estimates for 2006 indicate shrinkage of 1.4 metres of 'water equivalent' compared to half a metre in 2005.

Achim Steiner, Under-Secretary General of the UN and executive director of its environment programme (UNEP), said: "Millions if not billions of people depend directly or indirectly on these natural water storage facilities for drinking water, agriculture, industry and power generation during key parts of the year.

"There are many canaries emerging in the climate change coal mine. The glaciers are perhaps among those making the most noise and it is absolutely essential that everyone sits up and takes notice.

Litmus test

He said that action was already being taken and pointed out that the elements of a green economy were emerging from the more the money invested in renewable energies.

Mr Steiner went on: "The litmus test will come in late 2009 at the climate convention meeting in Copenhagen.

"Here governments must agree on a decisive new emissions reduction and adaptation-focused regime. Otherwise, and like the glaciers, our room for manoeuvre and the opportunity to act may simply melt away."

Dr Ian Willis, of the Scott Polar Research Institute, said: "It is not too late to stop the shrinkage of these ice sheets but we need to take action immediately."

The findings were compiled by the World Glacier Monitoring Service which is supported by UNEP. Thickening and thinning is calculated in terms of 'water equivalent'.

Glaciers across nine mountain ranges were analysed.

Triftgletscher glacier in Switzerland Image: Glaciers Online/Jurg Alean
Glaciers have been monitored for more than a century

Dr. Wilfried Haeberli, director of the service, said: "The latest figures are part of what appears to be an accelerating trend with no apparent end in sight.

"This continues the trend in accelerated ice loss during the past two and a half decades and brings the total loss since 1980 to more than 10.5 metres of water equivalent."

During 1980-1999, average loss rates had been 0.3 metres per year. Since the turn of the millennium, this rate had increased to about half a metre per year.

The record annual loss during these two decades - 0.7 metres in 1998 - has now been exceeded by three out of the past six year (2003, 2004 and 2006).

On average, one metre water equivalent corresponds to 1.1 metres in ice thickness. That suggests a further shrinking in 2006 of 1.5 actual metres and since 1980 a total reduction in thickness of ice of just over 11.5 metres or almost 38 feet.

In its entirety, the research includes figures from around 100 glaciers, with data showing significant shrinkage taking place in European countries including Austria, Norway, Sweden, Italy, Spain and Switzerland.

Norway's Breidalblikkbrea glacier thinned by almost 3.1 metres in one of the largest reductions.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/7299561.stm

I'm a regular Weather Channel watcher. Makes me not want to turn it on ever again. One thing I don't understand, though, is that the Weather Channel often has shows on about global warming. So what's this idiot's problem? :?:

Coleman founded the Weather Channel but was forced out years ago. He no longer has anything to do with it. He's just a bitter old man now.

tkdveg I am even wondering about the credibility of the site you got this from...a Green site? More like a Nader outpost...All I see is if Al Gore gets defended at all there they sic the Libertarians on them! I tried and they deleted my posts like the hannitized brain dead idiots they are...why pay attention to this? :?:

I agree papa. I also tried to post there and they blasted out my message. This is obviously some 'fraudulent' front. It says right in the title 'green GOSSIP'. Not green FACTS! I agree papa, this is some Nader outpost. It probably has 3 whole members! tkveg, there is no use showing us something we cannot even fight against or voice opinons on. This site is like the Sean Hannity show! Come on in Liberals we are fair and balanced. And then they ridicule you after you defend Al Gore! Spread the News! This site is BIASED! And STUPID on top of it!

It's a trap site. I would advise everyone NOT to post anything there!

Greens Suck!

Besides what do you expect from a site run by idiots stupid enough to vote for Nader in 2000?

They say they are FOR the environment yet vote against the ONLY environmentalist on the ticket in 2000 literally GIVING the presidency to George Bush.

As James said, Coleman was forced out years ago. Giving this doddering old fool any creedence at all is moronic! But leave it to Greens. If they can't take credit for something they would rather put a loaded gun in their mouths to shoot their foot off! Neil Boortz and Glen Beck probably 'bankroll' this scam website! :wtf:

I say don't give them any more attention than what they deserve! NONE!

As for the idiots that run this site...They claim it is a 'green' site, but yet allow this to be posted by a member that obviously calls themselves...'not green'...in short they let a 'troll' post on their site and then defend the words and actions of THAT 'troll'...It's kinda like shooting yourself in the FOOT!...They LET ME POST AS LEFTY SCHWARTZ!...But if I DEFEND Lefty Schwartz while some Libertarian FOOL goes after him then I get my posts DELETED!...These morons have been sucking off the Nader master teet for toooo long! Then they WONDER why we give them NO CREDIBILITY! :bad:

Yes tkdveg it actually IS scary...when a website lets the VERY people who want to drag them down actually INSULT Al Gore who wants to help them!...These misguided fools don't deserve any recognition...Let them continue to defend 'trolls' that want to make them go away! I won't go to this site again! :wtf:

I read John Coleman's piece (an article about this is linked into post #1) and it seems to be flawed in that it mainly considers just the U.S. average temperature and ignores the global averages that are more important. I do give him credit though for creating the original weather channel.

Another skeptic argument concerns the relatively cooler January and February of this year. This is partly related to a cool winter over the northern hemisphere land areas (where things fluctuate a lot anyway), and to the cool Pacific waters with the La Nina. Since both of these factors are now going away (particularly the La Nina is weakening), the global averages are on the uptick once again.


Steve

And plus the network is up for sale. They do have cool music though.

Well ... we better hope Murdoch doesn't buy it, 'cause they will then lie to us about the weather too.

Not to mention the massive FLOODING that happened in Arkansas THIS week! You see according to myth handlers and Sun Worshippers like Beck and his radio FREAK show...there has been NO change in the 'climate'... :dripple:

But I beg to differ....from experience when I was a kid...winters in the 60's all the way up to the end of the 70's seemed a LOT colder and had MUCH more SNOW!

I noticed milder winters going through the 80's and into the 90's...Even the Blizzard of 93 was a 'fluke' and happened LATE in the winter...In 1988 when we had a drought we had amazingly warm and WET winters...the LAST major cold snap was in 1995 I think when Ohio experienced 21 below zero...and to my knowledge THAt was just ONE year!

"Global Warming" does NOT change the weather cycles...it just makes these cycles MUCH MORE EXTREME!

If I were Al Gore I would SUE the Weather Channel for every special they made over the last year concerning 'global warming' as a countersuit...After all Mr. Coleman...IF 'global warming' is a fluke or hoax...then why did the Weather Channel report on it at all?

:?:

I agree - it looked a bit shady to me, too! I had just happened to notice Al Gore's name on the MSN home page under popular searches, so of course I had to check it out. The story was on several different sites, but all with the same info essentially. The one I posted above had a bit more info though it seemed.

This guy is clearly a few fries short of a happy meal!