Title: Is Barack Obama Muslim?
Description: Internet rumors are easy to find
Description: Internet rumors are easy to find
Wayne in WA State - January 15, 2008 06:09 AM (GMT)
Be warned, a lot of people still believe this
Barack Obama Is a Muslim
Netlore Archive: Email rumor alleges that U.S. presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama is a loyal Muslim who has lied about his religious background, including his claim to being a devout Christian
Description: Email rumor
Circulating since: January 2007
Status: False
Variant #1:
Email example contributed by Bill W., Jan. 15, 2007:
Subject:Fwd: Be careful, be very careful.
Barack Hussein Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, to Barack Hussein Obama Sr. (black muslim) of Nyangoma-Kogelo, Siaya District, Kenya, and Ann Dunham of Wichita, Kansas. (white atheist ).
When Obama was two years old, his parents divorced and his father returned to Kenya. His mother married Lolo Soetoro -- a Muslim -- moving to Jakarta with Obama when he was six years old. Within six months he had learned to speak the Indonesian language. Obama spent "two years in a Muslim school, then two more in a Catholic school" in Jakarta. Obama takes great care to conceal the fact that he is a Muslim while admitting that he was once a Muslim, mitigating that damning information by saying that, for two years, he also attended a Catholic school.
Obama's father, Barack Hussein Obama, Sr. was a radical Muslim who migrated from Kenya to Jakarta, Indonesia. He met Obama's mother, Ann Dunham-a white atheist from Wichita, Kansas-at the University of Hawaii at Manoa. Obama, Sr. and Dunham divorced when Barack, Jr. was two.
Obama's spinmeisters are now attempting to make it appear that Obama's introduction to Islam came from his father and that influence was temporary at best.
In reality, the senior Obama returned to Kenya immediately following the divorce and never again had any direct influence over his son's education.
Dunham married another Muslim, Lolo Soetoro who educated his stepson as a good Muslim by enrolling him in one of Jakarta's Wahabbi schools. Wahabbism is the radical teaching that created the Muslim terrorists who are now waging Jihad on the industrialized world.
Since it is politically expedient to be a Christian when you are seeking political office in the United States, Obama joined the United Church of Christ to help purge any notion that he is still a Muslim.
Handsome . . . Charming . . . Winsome . . . Dangerous . . . Deceptive . . . Determined
Variant #2:
Email example contributed by Ron P., July 8, 2007:
Subject: Who is Barack Obama?
Probable Democrat presidential candidate, Barack Hussein Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, to Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., a black MUSLIM from Nyangoma-Kogel, Kenya and Ann Dunham, a white ATHIEST from Wichita, Kansas.
Obama's parents met at the University of Hawaii. When Obama was two years old, his parents divorced. His father returned to Kenya. His mother then married Lolo Soetoro, a RADICAL Muslim from Indonesia. When Obama was 6 years old, the family relocated to Indonesia. Obama attended a MUSLIM school in Jakarta. He also spent two years in a Catholic school.
Obama takes great care to conceal the fact that he is a Muslim. He is quick to point out that, 'He was once a Muslim, but that he also attended Catholic school.'
Obama's political handlers are attempting to make it appear that Obama's introduction to Islam came via his father, and that this influence was temporary at best. In reality, the senior Obama returned to Kenya soon after the divorce, and never again had any direct influence over his son's education.
Lolo Soetoro, the second husband of Obama's mother, Ann Dunham, introduced his stepson to Islam. Obama was enrolled in a Wahabi school in Jakarta.
Wahabism is the RADICAL teaching that is followed by the Muslim terrorists who are now waging Jihad against the western world.
Since it is politically expedient to be a CHRISTIAN when seeking Major public office in the United States, Barack Hussein Obama has joined the United Church of Christ in an attempt to downplay his Muslim background.
Let us all remain alert concerning Obama's expected presidential candidacy.
The Muslims have said they plan on destroying the US from the inside out, what better way to start than at the highest level - through the President of the United States, one of their own!!!!
ALSO, keep in mind that when he was sworn into office - he DID NOT use the Holy Bible, but instead the Kuran (Their equevelancy to our Bible, but very different beliefs)
Please forward to everyone you know. Would you want this man leading our country?...... NOT ME!!!
Comments: When I first began receiving copies of this forwarded email in January 2007, Illinois senator Barack Obama had yet to officially declare his candidacy for the presidency. As of almost a year later, with Obama holding steady in the top tier of Democratic contenders, the Internet smear campaign against him is still going strong.
We are asked to believe that Sen. Obama, who professes to be a practicing Christian and has spoken publicly of his "personal relationship with Jesus Christ," is in fact secretly a Muslim and has lied all along about his true religious affiliation.
No proof is offered by those who make these claims -- no sightings of Barack Obama attending a mosque, no pictures of him reading the Qur'an, praying to Mecca, or observing Islamic holidays with his family. The entire case, such as it is, rests on a confused and error-ridden recitation of Obama's upbringing and purported childhood influences. It also rests on -- or exploits -- a deep fear and mistrust of the Muslim faith.
Virtually everything we do know about Obama's parentage and upbringing, it should be stipulated, comes from the senator himself. Obama told the story of his search to uncover his African heritage in Dreams from My Father (Three Rivers Press, 2004), and shared further autobiographical details in The Audacity of Hope (Crown Publishers, 2006). He spoke at length about his Christian beliefs in a 2004 Chicago Sun Times interview with Cathleen Falsani. Must we take his word for all of it? Not necessarily, but in the absence of contrary evidence we have no reason to seriously doubt Obama's own candid account of his life story.
Was Obama's father, Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., a "radical Muslim who migrated from Kenya to Jakarta, Indonesia?"
No. Though Barack Hussein Obama, Sr. was raised a Muslim, he had lost his faith and become a "confirmed atheist" by the time he attended college, according to his son. Obama's parents separated when Barack was two, his father moving not to Jakarta, but to the United States, where he attended Harvard. Eventually he returned to Kenya.
About Poll
Do you believe Barack Obama could really be a 'stealth' Muslim?
Yes, I don't trust him.
No, that's a kooky idea.
I can't decide.
Current Results
Did Obama's mother go on to marry another Muslim named Lolo Soetoro who "educated his stepson as a good Muslim by enrolling him in one of Jakarta's Wahabbi schools?"
Yes and no. When Obama's mother remarried, it was indeed to an Indonesian man named Lolo Soetoro, whom his stepson describes as a "non-practicing" Muslim. But it was his "secular" mother who supervised his education, Obama has written, sending him to both Catholic and Muslim primary schools after the family moved to Jakarta. There is nothing on record to indicate Obama attended a madrassa (Muslim religious school) run by Wahabbists, and in any case it's unlikely his mother would have chosen to expose him to such an extreme form of Islam given her stated abhorrence of religious closed-mindedness and her stated goal of giving him a well-rounded education, including in matters of faith.
(Update: CNN has tracked down the school in question, the Basuki School in Jakarta, which a deputy headmaster described as a "public school" with no particular religious agenda. "In our daily lives, we try to respect religion, but we don't give preferential treatment," he told CNN. A classmate of Obama's described the school as "general," with students of many religious backgrounds attending. Obama entered the school at the age of 8 and attended for two years.)
Is it true that "Obama takes great care to conceal the fact that he is a Muslim while admitting that he was once a Muslim?"
Once a Muslim? When? Unless I missed it while skimming Obama's two books and sundry interviews, the senator has never mentioned being a Muslim at any point in his life. Yes, he lived in a Muslim country during part of his childhood and briefly attended a Muslim school there, but he certainly wasn't raised a Muslim and has never been, so far as I can determine, a practitioner of that faith.
That anyone, let alone a sitting U.S. senator with designs on the highest office in the land, would conceal being a Muslim for twenty-odd years while going through the outward motions of practicing Christianity (or vice-versa, for that matter) is a truly bizarre accusation. I would be tempted to dismiss it as paranoid lunacy if it weren't so obviously a crass, politically-motivated smear.
Is it true that when Obama was sworn into office he used the Koran (Qur'an) instead of the Bible?
No. Barack Obama placed his right hand on the Bible during his swearing-in ceremony. Whoever made this allegation has confused Obama with Congressman Keith Ellison, who really is a Muslim and was sworn in on January 4, 2007 using a copy of the Qur'an.
Barack Obama Is a Muslim
Netlore Archive: Email rumor alleges that U.S. presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama is a loyal Muslim who has lied about his religious background, including his claim to being a devout Christian
Description: Email rumor
Circulating since: January 2007
Status: False
Variant #1:
Email example contributed by Bill W., Jan. 15, 2007:
Subject:Fwd: Be careful, be very careful.
Barack Hussein Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, to Barack Hussein Obama Sr. (black muslim) of Nyangoma-Kogelo, Siaya District, Kenya, and Ann Dunham of Wichita, Kansas. (white atheist ).
When Obama was two years old, his parents divorced and his father returned to Kenya. His mother married Lolo Soetoro -- a Muslim -- moving to Jakarta with Obama when he was six years old. Within six months he had learned to speak the Indonesian language. Obama spent "two years in a Muslim school, then two more in a Catholic school" in Jakarta. Obama takes great care to conceal the fact that he is a Muslim while admitting that he was once a Muslim, mitigating that damning information by saying that, for two years, he also attended a Catholic school.
Obama's father, Barack Hussein Obama, Sr. was a radical Muslim who migrated from Kenya to Jakarta, Indonesia. He met Obama's mother, Ann Dunham-a white atheist from Wichita, Kansas-at the University of Hawaii at Manoa. Obama, Sr. and Dunham divorced when Barack, Jr. was two.
Obama's spinmeisters are now attempting to make it appear that Obama's introduction to Islam came from his father and that influence was temporary at best.
In reality, the senior Obama returned to Kenya immediately following the divorce and never again had any direct influence over his son's education.
Dunham married another Muslim, Lolo Soetoro who educated his stepson as a good Muslim by enrolling him in one of Jakarta's Wahabbi schools. Wahabbism is the radical teaching that created the Muslim terrorists who are now waging Jihad on the industrialized world.
Since it is politically expedient to be a Christian when you are seeking political office in the United States, Obama joined the United Church of Christ to help purge any notion that he is still a Muslim.
Handsome . . . Charming . . . Winsome . . . Dangerous . . . Deceptive . . . Determined
Variant #2:
Email example contributed by Ron P., July 8, 2007:
Subject: Who is Barack Obama?
Probable Democrat presidential candidate, Barack Hussein Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, to Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., a black MUSLIM from Nyangoma-Kogel, Kenya and Ann Dunham, a white ATHIEST from Wichita, Kansas.
Obama's parents met at the University of Hawaii. When Obama was two years old, his parents divorced. His father returned to Kenya. His mother then married Lolo Soetoro, a RADICAL Muslim from Indonesia. When Obama was 6 years old, the family relocated to Indonesia. Obama attended a MUSLIM school in Jakarta. He also spent two years in a Catholic school.
Obama takes great care to conceal the fact that he is a Muslim. He is quick to point out that, 'He was once a Muslim, but that he also attended Catholic school.'
Obama's political handlers are attempting to make it appear that Obama's introduction to Islam came via his father, and that this influence was temporary at best. In reality, the senior Obama returned to Kenya soon after the divorce, and never again had any direct influence over his son's education.
Lolo Soetoro, the second husband of Obama's mother, Ann Dunham, introduced his stepson to Islam. Obama was enrolled in a Wahabi school in Jakarta.
Wahabism is the RADICAL teaching that is followed by the Muslim terrorists who are now waging Jihad against the western world.
Since it is politically expedient to be a CHRISTIAN when seeking Major public office in the United States, Barack Hussein Obama has joined the United Church of Christ in an attempt to downplay his Muslim background.
Let us all remain alert concerning Obama's expected presidential candidacy.
The Muslims have said they plan on destroying the US from the inside out, what better way to start than at the highest level - through the President of the United States, one of their own!!!!
ALSO, keep in mind that when he was sworn into office - he DID NOT use the Holy Bible, but instead the Kuran (Their equevelancy to our Bible, but very different beliefs)
Please forward to everyone you know. Would you want this man leading our country?...... NOT ME!!!
Comments: When I first began receiving copies of this forwarded email in January 2007, Illinois senator Barack Obama had yet to officially declare his candidacy for the presidency. As of almost a year later, with Obama holding steady in the top tier of Democratic contenders, the Internet smear campaign against him is still going strong.
We are asked to believe that Sen. Obama, who professes to be a practicing Christian and has spoken publicly of his "personal relationship with Jesus Christ," is in fact secretly a Muslim and has lied all along about his true religious affiliation.
No proof is offered by those who make these claims -- no sightings of Barack Obama attending a mosque, no pictures of him reading the Qur'an, praying to Mecca, or observing Islamic holidays with his family. The entire case, such as it is, rests on a confused and error-ridden recitation of Obama's upbringing and purported childhood influences. It also rests on -- or exploits -- a deep fear and mistrust of the Muslim faith.
Virtually everything we do know about Obama's parentage and upbringing, it should be stipulated, comes from the senator himself. Obama told the story of his search to uncover his African heritage in Dreams from My Father (Three Rivers Press, 2004), and shared further autobiographical details in The Audacity of Hope (Crown Publishers, 2006). He spoke at length about his Christian beliefs in a 2004 Chicago Sun Times interview with Cathleen Falsani. Must we take his word for all of it? Not necessarily, but in the absence of contrary evidence we have no reason to seriously doubt Obama's own candid account of his life story.
Was Obama's father, Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., a "radical Muslim who migrated from Kenya to Jakarta, Indonesia?"
No. Though Barack Hussein Obama, Sr. was raised a Muslim, he had lost his faith and become a "confirmed atheist" by the time he attended college, according to his son. Obama's parents separated when Barack was two, his father moving not to Jakarta, but to the United States, where he attended Harvard. Eventually he returned to Kenya.
About Poll
Do you believe Barack Obama could really be a 'stealth' Muslim?
Yes, I don't trust him.
No, that's a kooky idea.
I can't decide.
Current Results
Did Obama's mother go on to marry another Muslim named Lolo Soetoro who "educated his stepson as a good Muslim by enrolling him in one of Jakarta's Wahabbi schools?"
Yes and no. When Obama's mother remarried, it was indeed to an Indonesian man named Lolo Soetoro, whom his stepson describes as a "non-practicing" Muslim. But it was his "secular" mother who supervised his education, Obama has written, sending him to both Catholic and Muslim primary schools after the family moved to Jakarta. There is nothing on record to indicate Obama attended a madrassa (Muslim religious school) run by Wahabbists, and in any case it's unlikely his mother would have chosen to expose him to such an extreme form of Islam given her stated abhorrence of religious closed-mindedness and her stated goal of giving him a well-rounded education, including in matters of faith.
(Update: CNN has tracked down the school in question, the Basuki School in Jakarta, which a deputy headmaster described as a "public school" with no particular religious agenda. "In our daily lives, we try to respect religion, but we don't give preferential treatment," he told CNN. A classmate of Obama's described the school as "general," with students of many religious backgrounds attending. Obama entered the school at the age of 8 and attended for two years.)
Is it true that "Obama takes great care to conceal the fact that he is a Muslim while admitting that he was once a Muslim?"
Once a Muslim? When? Unless I missed it while skimming Obama's two books and sundry interviews, the senator has never mentioned being a Muslim at any point in his life. Yes, he lived in a Muslim country during part of his childhood and briefly attended a Muslim school there, but he certainly wasn't raised a Muslim and has never been, so far as I can determine, a practitioner of that faith.
That anyone, let alone a sitting U.S. senator with designs on the highest office in the land, would conceal being a Muslim for twenty-odd years while going through the outward motions of practicing Christianity (or vice-versa, for that matter) is a truly bizarre accusation. I would be tempted to dismiss it as paranoid lunacy if it weren't so obviously a crass, politically-motivated smear.
Is it true that when Obama was sworn into office he used the Koran (Qur'an) instead of the Bible?
No. Barack Obama placed his right hand on the Bible during his swearing-in ceremony. Whoever made this allegation has confused Obama with Congressman Keith Ellison, who really is a Muslim and was sworn in on January 4, 2007 using a copy of the Qur'an.
AlGoreFan - January 15, 2008 09:52 AM (GMT)
Barack is my senator whom I have voted for, for years. It doesn't matter what religion he practices but facts are facts. He never attended a radical Muslim school, he was never a practioner of the Muslim religion, and he is a proud member of a south-side Chicago christian church.
#*&%$&#*%(&) nut case smear jobbers are going to choke when he is elected POTUS. They better realize (if they are christian) that there is a hell waiting for them.
#*&%$&#*%(&) nut case smear jobbers are going to choke when he is elected POTUS. They better realize (if they are christian) that there is a hell waiting for them.
ALGOREismylife - January 15, 2008 06:41 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Wayne in WA State @ Jan 15 2008, 12:09 AM) |
| Be warned, a lot of people still believe this Barack Obama Is a Muslim |
Would it matter if he was???? It wouldn't matter to me.
ReElectAlGore2008 - January 15, 2008 07:25 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (ALGOREismylife @ Jan 15 2008, 02:41 PM) | ||
Would it matter if he was???? It wouldn't matter to me. |
Would not matter in the least to me either.
It would be one more barrier broken, and one more step in unifying the world in peaceful coexistence
Wayne in WA State - January 15, 2008 07:45 PM (GMT)
It wouldn't matter to me if Obama was a Muslim. Nor would it matter to me if his father was an atheist. What I find disturbing is that the people who forward this, do so to promote a political smear based on religious discrimination and false information.
ALGOREismylife - January 15, 2008 08:24 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Wayne in WA State @ Jan 15 2008, 01:45 PM) |
| It wouldn't matter to me if Obama was a Muslim. Nor would it matter to me if his father was an atheist. What I find disturbing is that the people who forward this, do so to promote a political smear based on religious discrimination and false information. |
It's hard to believe it's 2008 and racism and bigotry are still thriving in this country. Pretty damn sad. :bad:
JamesAquila - January 15, 2008 08:26 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Wayne in WA State @ Jan 15 2008, 02:45 PM) |
| It wouldn't matter to me if Obama was a Muslim. Nor would it matter to me if his father was an atheist. What I find disturbing is that the people who forward this, do so to promote a political smear based on religious discrimination and false information. |
The problem is is that there are people that this will matter too. People that will believe this and spread the lie. Unfortunately that is the kind of society we've become. Liars abuse the right of free speach and people are smeared with innuendo. And the liars make the arguement that you have to disprove their allegations when it should be the other way around.
Wayne in WA State - January 16, 2008 08:05 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (ALGOREismylife @ Jan 15 2008, 02:24 PM) |
It's hard to believe it's 2008 and racism and bigotry are still thriving in this country. Pretty damn sad. :bad: |
It's sad but true that bigotry still exists in 2008. On the other hand because of the Democratic Party, the Party of progress and justice for all, for the first time in American history the office of President is no longer just for White Men only.
ALGOREismylife - January 16, 2008 10:20 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Wayne in WA State @ Jan 16 2008, 02:05 AM) |
| On the other hand because of the Democratic Party, the Party of progress and justice for all, for the first time in American history the office of President is no longer just for White Men only. |
:clap: :clap: :clap:
Now if we can just make sure the republicans don't rig and steal this election in November like the past two. No suppressing the African-American voters and no illegal purging of African-American voters. :angry:
http://www.truthout.org/cgi-bin/artman/exe...ew.cgi/59/18987
But there is still one White man I would like to see as our president, if he would only run. :(
Wayne in WA State - January 21, 2008 07:27 PM (GMT)
From the BBC
Last Updated: Monday, 21 January 2008, 06:42 GMT
Obama takes Bill Clinton to task
Barack Obama in Columbia, South Carolina 20.01.08
Mr Obama took issue with Bill Clinton's criticism of his record
US Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama has accused former president Bill Clinton of making false statements about him.
Mr Obama said Mr Clinton had taken his support for his wife, Hillary - Mr Obama's main rival for the nomination - to a level that was "troubling".
Mr Obama said his campaign team would have to directly confront the former president in future.
The criticism comes days before the South Carolina primary.
Mr Obama needs to win in South Carolina to re-invigorate his campaign after two recent defeats.
'Fairy tale'
His comments came on ABC's network breakfast programme, Good Morning America.
President Clinton is a huge asset to our campaign and will continue talking to the American people
Phil Singer
Clinton campaign spokesman
"You know the former president, who I think all of us have a lot of regard for, has taken his advocacy on behalf of his wife to a level that I think is pretty troubling," Mr Obama said.
"He continues to make statements that are not supported by the facts - whether it's about my record of opposition to the war in Iraq or our approach to organising in Las Vegas.
"This has become a habit, and one of the things that we're going to have to do is to directly confront Bill Clinton when he's making statements that are not factually accurate."
Mr Clinton recently said that Mr Obama's claim that he consistently opposed the Iraq war from the start was "a fairy tale", and that Nevada union officials backing Mr Obama had suppressed the vote of Clinton supporters.
The Clinton campaign stood by the criticisms, saying "facts are facts".
"President Clinton is a huge asset to our campaign and will continue talking to the American people to press the case for Senator Clinton," spokesman Phil Singer said.
Mrs Clinton has won two of the three main primary contests so far - beating Mr Obama in Saturday's Democratic primary in Nevada.
Mr Obama won in Iowa, and polls suggest he is leading in South Carolina ahead of the Democratic primary there next Saturday.
The BBC's North America editor, Justin Webb, says the two candidates' mutual dislike appears to be intense and growing.
Last Updated: Monday, 21 January 2008, 06:42 GMT
Obama takes Bill Clinton to task
Barack Obama in Columbia, South Carolina 20.01.08
Mr Obama took issue with Bill Clinton's criticism of his record
US Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama has accused former president Bill Clinton of making false statements about him.
Mr Obama said Mr Clinton had taken his support for his wife, Hillary - Mr Obama's main rival for the nomination - to a level that was "troubling".
Mr Obama said his campaign team would have to directly confront the former president in future.
The criticism comes days before the South Carolina primary.
Mr Obama needs to win in South Carolina to re-invigorate his campaign after two recent defeats.
'Fairy tale'
His comments came on ABC's network breakfast programme, Good Morning America.
President Clinton is a huge asset to our campaign and will continue talking to the American people
Phil Singer
Clinton campaign spokesman
"You know the former president, who I think all of us have a lot of regard for, has taken his advocacy on behalf of his wife to a level that I think is pretty troubling," Mr Obama said.
"He continues to make statements that are not supported by the facts - whether it's about my record of opposition to the war in Iraq or our approach to organising in Las Vegas.
"This has become a habit, and one of the things that we're going to have to do is to directly confront Bill Clinton when he's making statements that are not factually accurate."
Mr Clinton recently said that Mr Obama's claim that he consistently opposed the Iraq war from the start was "a fairy tale", and that Nevada union officials backing Mr Obama had suppressed the vote of Clinton supporters.
The Clinton campaign stood by the criticisms, saying "facts are facts".
"President Clinton is a huge asset to our campaign and will continue talking to the American people to press the case for Senator Clinton," spokesman Phil Singer said.
Mrs Clinton has won two of the three main primary contests so far - beating Mr Obama in Saturday's Democratic primary in Nevada.
Mr Obama won in Iowa, and polls suggest he is leading in South Carolina ahead of the Democratic primary there next Saturday.
The BBC's North America editor, Justin Webb, says the two candidates' mutual dislike appears to be intense and growing.
The Paraclete - January 23, 2008 03:52 PM (GMT)
The truth remains to be seen...but the Right Wing Echo Chamber is trying to use everything they can as a 'wedge' issue in hopes that if Obama loses then his people will sit home during the general election and visa versa for Senator Clinton, that if she loses then her base will sit at home and not vote for Obama in the general election! :!:
It's the same as in 2004, THEY hope to break the UNITY enough that they can stick another WAR MONGER into the White House so THEY can start their INVASION of Iran! WAKE UP & SMELL THE BLACK OBAMA COFFEE WITH THE WHITE CLINTON CREAMER IN IT! :dripple:
This is a diversion...pure and simple...caused by Rove & his bunch and they hope President Clinton and his wife's campaign will bite on it 'hook, line, and sinker'! It's just my take on it...but THEY did the same thing in 2004 between Dr. Howard Dean and Senator John Kerry...then they 'swiftboated' Kerry after THEY alienated the Dean supporters! ARE WE GOING TO FALL FOR IT AGAIN? :?:
If you alienate half of the Democratic Electorate then all you have to do is RIG THE VOTE in ONE STATE and VOILA! THE WAR BEAT GOES ON!
It's the same as in 2004, THEY hope to break the UNITY enough that they can stick another WAR MONGER into the White House so THEY can start their INVASION of Iran! WAKE UP & SMELL THE BLACK OBAMA COFFEE WITH THE WHITE CLINTON CREAMER IN IT! :dripple:
This is a diversion...pure and simple...caused by Rove & his bunch and they hope President Clinton and his wife's campaign will bite on it 'hook, line, and sinker'! It's just my take on it...but THEY did the same thing in 2004 between Dr. Howard Dean and Senator John Kerry...then they 'swiftboated' Kerry after THEY alienated the Dean supporters! ARE WE GOING TO FALL FOR IT AGAIN? :?:
If you alienate half of the Democratic Electorate then all you have to do is RIG THE VOTE in ONE STATE and VOILA! THE WAR BEAT GOES ON!
singhtjunior - January 23, 2008 06:48 PM (GMT)
This is an e-mail from Senator John Kerry.
I support Barack Obama because he doesn't seek to perfect the politics of Swiftboating -- he seeks to end it.
This is personal for me, and for a whole lot of Americans who lived through the 2004 election.
As a veteran, it disgusts me that the Swift Boats we loved while we were in uniform on the Mekong Delta have been rendered, in Karl Rove's twisted politics, an ugly verb meaning to lie about someone's character just to win an election. But as someone who cares about winning this election and changing the country I love, I know it's not enough to complain about a past we can't change when our challenge is to win the future -- which is why we must stop the Swiftboating, stop the push-polling, stop the front groups, and stop the email chain smears.
The truth matters, but how you fight the lies matters even more. We must be determined never again to lose any election to a lie.
This year, the attacks are already starting. Some of you may have heard about the disgusting lies about Barack Obama that are being circulated by email. These attacks smear Barack's Christian faith and deep patriotism, and they distort his record of more than two decades of public service. They are nothing short of "Swiftboat" style anonymous attacks.
These are the same tactics the right has used again and again, and as we've learned, these attacks, no matter how bogus, can spread and take root if they go unchecked.
But not this time -- we're fighting back.
And when I say "we," I mean that literally. I know Barack is committed to fighting every smear every time. He'll fight hard and stand up for the truth. But he can't do it alone.
We need you to email the truth to your address books. Print it out and post it at work. Talk to your neighbors. Call your local radio station. Write a letter to the editor. If lies can be spread virally, let's prove to the cynics that the truth can be every bit as persuasive as it is powerful.
The Obama campaign has created a place where you can find the truth you'll need to push back on these smears and a way to spread the truth to all of your address book.
Take action here:
http://my.barackobama.com/factcheckaction
So when your inbox fills up with trash and the emails of smear and fear, find the facts, and help defeat the lies.
Barack Obama is committed to bringing our country together to meet the challenges we face, but he knows that power gives up nothing without a struggle -- and to win the chance to change America, we must first defeat the hateful tactics that have been used to tear us apart for too long.
With your help, we can turn the page on an era of small, divisive politics -- but only if next time you hear these attacks on Barack, you take action immediately:
http://my.barackobama.com/factcheckaction
The fight is just heating up -- we won't let them steal this election with lies and distortions.
Thank you,
John Kerry
I support Barack Obama because he doesn't seek to perfect the politics of Swiftboating -- he seeks to end it.
This is personal for me, and for a whole lot of Americans who lived through the 2004 election.
As a veteran, it disgusts me that the Swift Boats we loved while we were in uniform on the Mekong Delta have been rendered, in Karl Rove's twisted politics, an ugly verb meaning to lie about someone's character just to win an election. But as someone who cares about winning this election and changing the country I love, I know it's not enough to complain about a past we can't change when our challenge is to win the future -- which is why we must stop the Swiftboating, stop the push-polling, stop the front groups, and stop the email chain smears.
The truth matters, but how you fight the lies matters even more. We must be determined never again to lose any election to a lie.
This year, the attacks are already starting. Some of you may have heard about the disgusting lies about Barack Obama that are being circulated by email. These attacks smear Barack's Christian faith and deep patriotism, and they distort his record of more than two decades of public service. They are nothing short of "Swiftboat" style anonymous attacks.
These are the same tactics the right has used again and again, and as we've learned, these attacks, no matter how bogus, can spread and take root if they go unchecked.
But not this time -- we're fighting back.
And when I say "we," I mean that literally. I know Barack is committed to fighting every smear every time. He'll fight hard and stand up for the truth. But he can't do it alone.
We need you to email the truth to your address books. Print it out and post it at work. Talk to your neighbors. Call your local radio station. Write a letter to the editor. If lies can be spread virally, let's prove to the cynics that the truth can be every bit as persuasive as it is powerful.
The Obama campaign has created a place where you can find the truth you'll need to push back on these smears and a way to spread the truth to all of your address book.
Take action here:
http://my.barackobama.com/factcheckaction
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Barack Obama easily wins South Carolina Democratic primary contest
The Illinois senator takes a commanding lead over Clinton, with Edwards trailing.
By Michael Muskal, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
5:28 PM PST, January 26, 2008
CHARLESTON, S.C. -- Sen. Barack Obama, who is fighting to become the first African American to win the White House, today easily captured the Democratic presidential primary in a state where race and rancor were the defining motifs.
Obama, of Illinois, took a commanding lead over New York Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, who conceded. Former North Carolina Sen. John Edwards, who needed a strong showing to revive his evaporating presidential hopes, was lagging in third.
With 15% of precincts reporting, Obama had more than 53% and Clinton had 28% of the vote. Edwards trailed at 19%.
"South Carolina voters rejected the politics of the past," Robert Gibbs, a spokesman for Obama, said after the candidate was projected the winner by the Associated Press and television networks.
Obama is scheduled to declare victory later tonight.
As the polls closed, Clinton left for the airport in Columbia, S.C., to fly to Memphis. She didn't speak.
But in a prepared statement released later, Clinton said that she had called Obama to congratulate him and vowed to continue her fight for the nomination.
"In the days ahead, I'll work to give voice to those who are working harder than ever to be heard," she said. "For those who have lost their job or their home or their healthcare, I will focus on the solutions needed to move this country forward. That's what this election is about. It's about our country, our hopes and dreams, our families and our future."
South Carolina was the first Democratic primary in the South and the first with a significant black electorate. It was also a nasty campaign in which former President Bill Clinton, who was popular in the African American community, was accused of injecting race into the debate.
Exit surveys by The Associated Press and television networks showed that Obama captured nearly eight of every 10 African American votes. He also won about 25% of the white vote, with the rest split between Clinton and Edwards.
Obama ran as strongly among black women as he did among black men. Clinton, seeking to become the first woman president, won the female vote, but with just more than 40%, not enough to offset Obama's strong showing.
The tart tone of the campaign could be a sign of what is to come as the Democrats brace for their next contests in almost two dozen states on Feb. 5.
"A tough competition is good," said Jenny Backus, an unaffiliated Democratic strategist. "But we have to come together in the general election. There are three qualified candidates. We would be better off debating their different leadership styles than ripping each other's faces off."
Bill Clinton won South Carolina in his 1992 White House run. Critics accused the former president of injecting race into the contest through a series of veiled remarks. Clinton angrily denied the assertion, and at one point even snapped at the media.
Bill Clinton was the one who campaigned in the state as Hillary concentrated on the next races. Nearly six in 10 of those voting said his campaigning in the state was an important factor, and a quarter of those called it very important.
Seemingly, they didn't like what they heard. The voters who said Bill Clinton's role was important favored Obama, according to the exit survey.
Obama and Clinton clashed here in the nastiest debate of the campaign. Obama lambasted Clinton's legal career, saying that when he was a community organizer helping the poor and unemployed, she was "a corporate lawyer sitting on the board at Wal-Mart."
Clinton furiously fired back that she had fought GOP policies while Obama was "practicing law and representing your contributor ... in his slum landlord business in inner-city Chicago."
The sniping prompted Edwards to bill himself as representing the "grown-up wing" of the Democratic Party. Edwards, born in South Carolina and raised in Robbins, N.C., has played on his ability to get along.
"This is not about us personally," Edwards said in his closing television spot. "It is about what we are trying to do for this country."
Some worried that the South Carolina campaign opened wounds that "could leave a lot of scar tissue," as Bill Carrick, a neutral Democratic strategist, put it.
"There's just a widespread feeling from people, not just in the Obama camp, that we don't want to see a lot of back-and-forth like that in the run-up to Feb. 5 and beyond," Carrick said.
Feb. 5 is the big day for both parties, when voters in as many as 24 states will choose delegates to the Democratic and Republican conventions this summer. It is the closest the parties have come to a national primary, with states voting from coast to coast for more than half of the delegates.
Despite chilly temperatures, forecasters expected South Carolina Democrats to hit the polls in record numbers, repeating a pattern that has surfaced throughout the campaign season. Turnout four years ago was more than 290,000 voters.
Democrats, independents and Republicans were allowed to vote in South Carolina's open primary, provided they didn't vote last week in the Republican primary, won by Arizona Sen. John McCain.
michael.muskal@latimes.com
Staff writer Mark Z. Barabak contri
The Illinois senator takes a commanding lead over Clinton, with Edwards trailing.
By Michael Muskal, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
5:28 PM PST, January 26, 2008
CHARLESTON, S.C. -- Sen. Barack Obama, who is fighting to become the first African American to win the White House, today easily captured the Democratic presidential primary in a state where race and rancor were the defining motifs.
Obama, of Illinois, took a commanding lead over New York Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, who conceded. Former North Carolina Sen. John Edwards, who needed a strong showing to revive his evaporating presidential hopes, was lagging in third.
With 15% of precincts reporting, Obama had more than 53% and Clinton had 28% of the vote. Edwards trailed at 19%.
"South Carolina voters rejected the politics of the past," Robert Gibbs, a spokesman for Obama, said after the candidate was projected the winner by the Associated Press and television networks.
Obama is scheduled to declare victory later tonight.
As the polls closed, Clinton left for the airport in Columbia, S.C., to fly to Memphis. She didn't speak.
But in a prepared statement released later, Clinton said that she had called Obama to congratulate him and vowed to continue her fight for the nomination.
"In the days ahead, I'll work to give voice to those who are working harder than ever to be heard," she said. "For those who have lost their job or their home or their healthcare, I will focus on the solutions needed to move this country forward. That's what this election is about. It's about our country, our hopes and dreams, our families and our future."
South Carolina was the first Democratic primary in the South and the first with a significant black electorate. It was also a nasty campaign in which former President Bill Clinton, who was popular in the African American community, was accused of injecting race into the debate.
Exit surveys by The Associated Press and television networks showed that Obama captured nearly eight of every 10 African American votes. He also won about 25% of the white vote, with the rest split between Clinton and Edwards.
Obama ran as strongly among black women as he did among black men. Clinton, seeking to become the first woman president, won the female vote, but with just more than 40%, not enough to offset Obama's strong showing.
The tart tone of the campaign could be a sign of what is to come as the Democrats brace for their next contests in almost two dozen states on Feb. 5.
"A tough competition is good," said Jenny Backus, an unaffiliated Democratic strategist. "But we have to come together in the general election. There are three qualified candidates. We would be better off debating their different leadership styles than ripping each other's faces off."
Bill Clinton won South Carolina in his 1992 White House run. Critics accused the former president of injecting race into the contest through a series of veiled remarks. Clinton angrily denied the assertion, and at one point even snapped at the media.
Bill Clinton was the one who campaigned in the state as Hillary concentrated on the next races. Nearly six in 10 of those voting said his campaigning in the state was an important factor, and a quarter of those called it very important.
Seemingly, they didn't like what they heard. The voters who said Bill Clinton's role was important favored Obama, according to the exit survey.
Obama and Clinton clashed here in the nastiest debate of the campaign. Obama lambasted Clinton's legal career, saying that when he was a community organizer helping the poor and unemployed, she was "a corporate lawyer sitting on the board at Wal-Mart."
Clinton furiously fired back that she had fought GOP policies while Obama was "practicing law and representing your contributor ... in his slum landlord business in inner-city Chicago."
The sniping prompted Edwards to bill himself as representing the "grown-up wing" of the Democratic Party. Edwards, born in South Carolina and raised in Robbins, N.C., has played on his ability to get along.
"This is not about us personally," Edwards said in his closing television spot. "It is about what we are trying to do for this country."
Some worried that the South Carolina campaign opened wounds that "could leave a lot of scar tissue," as Bill Carrick, a neutral Democratic strategist, put it.
"There's just a widespread feeling from people, not just in the Obama camp, that we don't want to see a lot of back-and-forth like that in the run-up to Feb. 5 and beyond," Carrick said.
Feb. 5 is the big day for both parties, when voters in as many as 24 states will choose delegates to the Democratic and Republican conventions this summer. It is the closest the parties have come to a national primary, with states voting from coast to coast for more than half of the delegates.
Despite chilly temperatures, forecasters expected South Carolina Democrats to hit the polls in record numbers, repeating a pattern that has surfaced throughout the campaign season. Turnout four years ago was more than 290,000 voters.
Democrats, independents and Republicans were allowed to vote in South Carolina's open primary, provided they didn't vote last week in the Republican primary, won by Arizona Sen. John McCain.
michael.muskal@latimes.com
Staff writer Mark Z. Barabak contri